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***Official Seattle Seahawks Offseason Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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We just signed Cole and have intention on him starting at the 1 technique with Mebane moving to a pass rushing position of the 3 tech. We rotate our DT's a lot, so drafting a DT(highest bust rate of any position) that high doesnt make sense.
We will be able to choose from at least 2 of these guys:
Jason Smith
Eugene Monroe
Michael Crabtree
Brian Orakpo
Matt Stafford
IMO all those guys make a lot more sense than drafting Raji or Curry.
We will be able to choose from at least 2 of these guys:
Jason Smith
Eugene Monroe
Michael Crabtree
Brian Orakpo
Matt Stafford
IMO all those guys make a lot more sense than drafting Raji or Curry.
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kevjones22
Footballguy
Glad we have our own thread now, from seahawkaddicts.com:
The Seahawks are bringing in former Bucs Safety Jermaine Philips in for a visit. Philips might be just what the Doctor ordered for Seattle fans -- he's 6'2" (size, in OUR secondary? it's more likely than you think . . . ), he's got a propensity for forcing fumbles and getting an interception here and there, and he has been known to make a number of nice tackles. The Sporting News is reporting that the Hawks and Chargers are both bringing Phillips in, and the rumor has it that Cromartie may be cut or traded if the Bolts can snag him -- can you tell they like him? If the Hawks managed to get Phillips, they will be entering the Draft with pretty much no big question marks or immediate needs, with the DT, WR and S positions all shored up.
The Seahawks are bringing in former Bucs Safety Jermaine Philips in for a visit. Philips might be just what the Doctor ordered for Seattle fans -- he's 6'2" (size, in OUR secondary? it's more likely than you think . . . ), he's got a propensity for forcing fumbles and getting an interception here and there, and he has been known to make a number of nice tackles. The Sporting News is reporting that the Hawks and Chargers are both bringing Phillips in, and the rumor has it that Cromartie may be cut or traded if the Bolts can snag him -- can you tell they like him? If the Hawks managed to get Phillips, they will be entering the Draft with pretty much no big question marks or immediate needs, with the DT, WR and S positions all shored up.
Signing Phillips, re-sign Weaver and Willis and this would be the best offseason I could imagine. Make it happen Ruskell!
kevjones22
Footballguy
I would be happy with any of those guys, although we probably won't have another top 5 pick for a while, Stafford doesn't excite me too much. I think we will get OL help in the first round and BPA second round. I would be all for taking a chance on a very late round QB (Graham Harrell or the CWU QB if he isn't drafted). A second day RB couldn't hurt either, as a lot of them excelled last year. I hope we can get Mayo next year.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
What do you think the chances would be of Seattle going rb with their first pick?
I don't see it but all I see is J. Jones sitting there, Is he your guy going into the season?
What about Donald Brown in the second round?
I don't see it but all I see is J. Jones sitting there, Is he your guy going into the season?
What about Donald Brown in the second round?
I dont even think RB in the first is even an option. Jones should be fine as the feature back. I was impressed in some of the time I saw him play last year. Other than Jones, we have Duckett who is a great short yardage guy and Justin Forsett who I am not very impressed about. Ideally I would like us to address RB in the 3rd or 4th round unless someone great falls to our 2nd pick.
kevjones22
Footballguy
Hass probably has 2 decent years left in the tank, he has had dozens of injuries over the years. The Seattle Times had a picture of him last year with all of the injuries he had, it was way more than I remember. I think now would be the time to start grooming his replacement.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I'm gonna go ahead and uh disagree with that here. OL is still a need, even if Willis is re-signed. And I would say that RB is a need as well, though maybe not with #4 overall, but defintitely as early as the 2nd I wouldn't be surprised to see them go RB. JJ didn't impress me, he was generally outplayed my perpetual backup MoMo. Maybe it was the switching in and out, but when he had his big chances he was unimpressive and fumbled too many times. I don't see JJ/Duckett/Weaver(?)/Forsett as a formidable enough group to ignore in the draft. I'd be very happy with Crabtree or the best OL on the board.
kevjones22
Footballguy
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/200.../2008270072.jpg
Here is that picture of Matt and his Injuries, this was made in the middle of the 08 season I believe.
Here is that picture of Matt and his Injuries, this was made in the middle of the 08 season I believe.
I'd say Weaver would be my #1 priority with Willis a close 2nd. I just hope we can manage to re-sign AT LEAST one of those guys, hopefully both.
Unlike you, I would really like to see how Jones does with the chance to be a feature back. When Morris went out last year and it was JJ's turn to get all the carries, he had the chance to take a lot of the carries and he responded with some very good, solid games. When Morris came back and they split carries, it obviously hurt JJ's chances and #s. I think he is the type of back that gets better as the game goes on and if he gets the carries, he will be successful.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
To a point a agree somewhat with that, but he took himself out of two games with fumbles and was ineffective in those and other games, which is consistent with his history in Dallas. Sure he had 100+ games but he certainly didn't do anything to keep a 2nd round RB from getting drafted if there's a good choice on the board.
Enforcer
Footballguy
Who throws down negative comments like this about their own fan base? Why? In general I've always been impressed with people here in the northwest as decent folks. Not too overly blind homeristic, and not too obnoxiously ignorant. What am I missing here?seahawk 17 said:Other than Mad Sweeney, I think a lot of you are short bus riders!
Who throws down negative comments like this about their own fan base? Why? In general I've always been impressed with people here in the northwest as decent folks. Not too overly blind homeristic, and not too obnoxiously ignorant. What am I missing here?seahawk 17 said:Other than Mad Sweeney, I think a lot of you are short bus riders!
The High Priest
Footballguy
Im excited about a coaching change. How is the offence going to look?
In the old dayz ...when I was pup I remember Seattle as always having a trick play...
78,79 ish Im sure most of it was because they didnt have much else but sure was fun..
As for this draft I hope we go for Crabtree, from what I understand he has great hands, and then go for O-Line
Hasselback has probably had the most dropped ball in the last 5 years than anyone in the leauge..not just drops ..crucial drops...
It will be nioce to have 2 pair of hands out there for Matt.
Anyways Im always looking towards the new year Go Hawks!!
In the old dayz ...when I was pup I remember Seattle as always having a trick play...
78,79 ish Im sure most of it was because they didnt have much else but sure was fun..
As for this draft I hope we go for Crabtree, from what I understand he has great hands, and then go for O-Line
Hasselback has probably had the most dropped ball in the last 5 years than anyone in the leauge..not just drops ..crucial drops...
It will be nioce to have 2 pair of hands out there for Matt.
Anyways Im always looking towards the new year Go Hawks!!
There is a very good chance there will be a top 3 C/G when we pick in the 2nd round. If the team feels Spencer doesnt have it, they will draft Mack, Unger, or Wood.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
Im sorry for calling you short bus riders. That was wrong.... 
I will just speak of Seahawk football from here on out.
Willis got signed....I really think Seattle goes DT or BPA in the draft. I am undecided on Crabtree, and pray that they don't go QB.
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/06/ot-willis-...-for-two-years/
I will just speak of Seahawk football from here on out.
Willis got signed....I really think Seattle goes DT or BPA in the draft. I am undecided on Crabtree, and pray that they don't go QB.
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/06/ot-willis-...-for-two-years/
mad sweeney
Footballguy
If they go BPA and Crabtree is there, they better pick him. Curry might be tempting if he's there but with a 4th pick salary plus the 3 starters, that's a LOT of money tied up in LBs. I think they're is a great position for this draft and if they manage to get Weaver back in the fold too, well it'll be a pretty uplifting off season. I really think they need to go RB in Rd 2, I think 4th overall is too high for any of the RBs this year, but a high pick is very warranted.Im sorry for calling you short bus riders. That was wrong....
I will just speak of Seahawk football from here on out.
Willis got signed....I really think Seattle goes DT or BPA in the draft. I am undecided on Crabtree, and pray that they don't go QB.
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/06/ot-willis-...-for-two-years/
mad sweeney
Footballguy
kevjones22
Footballguy
Now I hope the Chiefs don't take Curry
Jack Burton
Footballguy
He isnt as bad as you make it sound. Leroy and Lofa more than make up for JP's lack of tackling. He's there to pressure the QB and Play in space and move around the field and be a disruption to the offense. I know there is a glaring need at D-tackle but I dont like this trade. Ruskell is continuing his streak of poor decisions and is a big reason Holmgren retired. He should be canned.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Well obviously he can tackle, that's just a generalization to make a point. But every single game I saw him disrupt the offense by coming through the line or sprinting to the outside to track someone down and fall for the simplest of jukes because he's going too fast. Or he jumps in the air at a shoulder shrug. Or he goes for a hit and doesn't wrap up. Several times, every game. I wish his fundamentals were on par with his athletic ability but the guy was getting juked badly by Warner and JTO.
Jack Burton
Footballguy
I hear what you're saying but I think with Kerney being hurt it may have caused JP to try and do too much to compensatemad sweeney said:
. Thats just a guess. I still like JP a lot and what he provided on D despite the frustration from time to time. I also just assume any move Ruskell makes is a bad one. The one area I thought that the Seahawks didnt need to change up was at LB. But we'll see how this works out.The devil you know...
seahawk 17
Footballguy
I will take a wait and see approach. They traded for a younger player at a position of weakness and will save over 4mil by doing it. (I guess I like it)
kevjones22
Footballguy
I hope their draft board looks something like this order:
Crabtree
Monroe
Curry
I hope we don't take a RB or QB the first day.
Crabtree
Monroe
Curry
I hope we don't take a RB or QB the first day.
IMO the draft board should be:
1. Smith
2. Monroe
If both of them are gone, one of: Curry, Crabtree, Stafford, Sanchez, or Orakpo would be okay with me. As long as Seattle drafts one of those players, ill be happy because I can see the argument for any one of them.
Looks like I am setting myself up to not be disappointed on draft day
1. Smith
2. Monroe
If both of them are gone, one of: Curry, Crabtree, Stafford, Sanchez, or Orakpo would be okay with me. As long as Seattle drafts one of those players, ill be happy because I can see the argument for any one of them.
Looks like I am setting myself up to not be disappointed on draft day
Enforcer
Footballguy
Seattle PI beat writer Clare Farnesworth is wrapping up a 30 year career covering the Seahawks. I feel like I grew up with the Seahawks from the start, and Mr. Farnesworth was the only real constant.
Dang.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/archives/164278.asp
Dang.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/archives/164278.asp
mad sweeney
Footballguy
They should be set up for BPA at this point and those two are clearly the BPAs of the choices. However, I doubt Stafford or Curry will be there and it will be between Monroe or Crabtree. I can't make up my mind about these two but if/when either are there at 4 then they are the choice. Definitely not a QB or a RB at 4.eta IF Curry is there they should only take him if they don't think they can sign Hill to a long term contract. If they're re-signing Hill and draft Curry then it's back to a gold mine of contracts at LB.IMO the draft board should be:
1. Smith
2. Monroe
If both of them are gone, one of: Curry, Crabtree, Stafford, Sanchez, or Orakpo would be okay with me. As long as Seattle drafts one of those players, ill be happy because I can see the argument for any one of them.
Looks like I am setting myself up to not be disappointed on draft day
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What are the odds that we get a chance to move down to avoid the $30mil+ in guaranteed money for the 4th overall and pick up some extra picks?
That would be my first choice by far. I'm hoping an OT falls so Philly will trade up and maybe give us their 21 & 28 although that might be stretching it.
Any other teams you think might trade up and which players would need to fall for that to happen?
I said the OT but a QB needy team may jump up if Stafford falls that far or someone may want to jump the Browns to get Curry if we don't want to spend all the money on LB's again.
That would be my first choice by far. I'm hoping an OT falls so Philly will trade up and maybe give us their 21 & 28 although that might be stretching it.
Any other teams you think might trade up and which players would need to fall for that to happen?
I said the OT but a QB needy team may jump up if Stafford falls that far or someone may want to jump the Browns to get Curry if we don't want to spend all the money on LB's again.
Enforcer
Footballguy
As long as we're speculating and sharing our preferences...
I still like one of the two OTs at 1.04, and then a WR at 2.04. I like Kenny Britt from Rutgers most at that level. If those priorities get flipped by Ruskell and he takes Crabtree early and an interior O-lineman in the early second I won't complain.
I still like one of the two OTs at 1.04, and then a WR at 2.04. I like Kenny Britt from Rutgers most at that level. If those priorities get flipped by Ruskell and he takes Crabtree early and an interior O-lineman in the early second I won't complain.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
I don't think they will go LB as they will again have a lot of money tied up in the position as mentioned before. I think they are still going to go Crabtree... the losing of Engram got me thinking, there as never been a #1 WR on this team in years.(Since Galloway) Jackson was not a #1 so stop...
Seattle basically has all posession type WR's. No playmaker/game breaker.
Seattle basically has all posession type WR's. No playmaker/game breaker.
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stevegamer
Footballguy
I definitely agree wih a OT at the 1.04, if they don't move down, which I think is unlikely.
At 2.04 it would depend on who is there. A RB, WR, or OL would fit well. Maybe a DB or even a LB.
At 2.04 it would depend on who is there. A RB, WR, or OL would fit well. Maybe a DB or even a LB.
Curry might just attract someone like you said. Would be good for us as if he is still there it might mean 2 OT have gone.I see myself warming to 2.04 being a QB.
Enforcer
Footballguy
Angry isn't the proper term. Disappointed, but certainly not angry. I say disappointed because I don't believe any QB prospect is worthy of a first rounder this year. If I was GM I would almost always invest high picks in lineman. Not the popular thing, but I feel strong franchises are built around the lines.If it happened it would depend on how things turned out years down the road. Trying to evaluate a draft immediately after it happens is a waste of time. Go find letter grades applied to any draft from the past several years and you'll realize its an impossible thing to grade fairly. Initial emotional reactions are just that. They are rarely accurate or well thought out.
Captain_Apocalypse
Footballguy
It definitely worries me. I don't like the idea of drafting a qb high. I'd rather have someone at a position where they will be able to contribute right away. That said I am more worried that we didn't get Weaver back. Anyone know anything about his replacement? I read something somewhere where Weaver seemed to be talking hiom up and saying he would "suprise" a lot of people. Hard to believe he will be as nice a package as Weaver was though. I was hoping they would get Weaver back and then not have to worry about RB in the draft, but now I am thinking we take an RB in the 2nd (hopefully not the first).Apollo said:
Enforcer
Footballguy
FB Owen Schmitt is going to be popular in Seattle. He's the guy that gained recognition in college for breaking his face mask so many times blocking. He takes serious pride in being a sledge hammer as a fullback. Also, he sports the mohawk hairstyle and frequently smacks his forehead into this own helmet. Dude is a bit of a nut.
Jack Burton
Footballguy
It would definately gnaw at my guts from the inside out. Ruskell would be signing his own death warrant if he did that.I think Seattle goes Offense at 1.04. Since the Redding deal I am convinced Seattle are satisfied with the D side of things and will draft OT or BPA. If Mora and Ruskell believe that WJones still has two to three good years left, an OT might not be in their plans.I wouldn't rule out Wells or Crabtree if the top two rated OT's go before they get to the podium. Then they'll look for a DT or LB with the 2.04.Apollo said:
Enforcer
Footballguy
Question for my Seattle brethren homers...
How do you see the passing attack targets shaking out?
I keep reading (**TNT blog) that Housh will primarily (but not exclusively) be in the slot. Does this mean we will see a vastly different passing attack in Seattle? If I recall correctly the Holmgren flanker split to the right generally led the team in targets. Do you think this will change? Or is it possible that Branch may lead the team in targets from that position? I'm at a loss trying to figure out the expected target distribution?
Also, has Knapp shown proclivity towards his TE in the past? Down field throws? Again, I just don't know what to expect.
** Added note. I'm impressed with the job that Eric Williams is doing so far at the TNT. He seems dedicated to the high standard that Clayton and Sando set years ago. Lots of information. Would like to see some more "data driven" information like we got from Sando, but I think Williams is off to a good start regardless.
How do you see the passing attack targets shaking out?
I keep reading (**TNT blog) that Housh will primarily (but not exclusively) be in the slot. Does this mean we will see a vastly different passing attack in Seattle? If I recall correctly the Holmgren flanker split to the right generally led the team in targets. Do you think this will change? Or is it possible that Branch may lead the team in targets from that position? I'm at a loss trying to figure out the expected target distribution?
Also, has Knapp shown proclivity towards his TE in the past? Down field throws? Again, I just don't know what to expect.
** Added note. I'm impressed with the job that Eric Williams is doing so far at the TNT. He seems dedicated to the high standard that Clayton and Sando set years ago. Lots of information. Would like to see some more "data driven" information like we got from Sando, but I think Williams is off to a good start regardless.
Enforcer
Footballguy
BUMP. Looking for input.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Jack Burton
Footballguy
I'm starting to fear that Ruskell may actually draft Sanchez. I heard Clayton on KPUG this morning say there is at least a 30% chance they pick him.
