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The Z Machine said:
And my colchoneros are into the CL group phase!!!!

Nice job in taking down Pana, boys!

The other big team to make it through today was Olympic Lyon, who blasted Anderlecht 8-1 on aggregate. They'll do some damage in the group phase.

The other 3 teams to make it through to group are: Debreceni, Zürich, and Mac. Haifa. Fiorentina / Sporting Portugal is the game to watch tomorrow. Arsenal is a gimme as are Olympiakos and Stuttgart.

Can't wait to see the draw. Obviously no team wants to draw Arsenal or Atlético in their group. I hope that my boys get to play against Liverpool again. That was fun last time.
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Watched a bit of the Atletico game. Seemed really uninspired. Kun was good but thought both Forlan and Maxi were not in good form. Has to be strange to be playing CL games before the season starts. Also, that Leto kid for Panathinaikos looks really, really good.

 
guru_007 said:
Moe. said:
Apparently the match has now been suspended.
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still going onWhen West Ham went ahead on the PK, fans stormed the field, riot police.Fans are going NUTS in the stands. The Millwall fans are chanting in reference to the guy for West Ham that was stabbed earlier this week, I don't recall his name and can't understand the chants. Going to be a long night in East London....
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Violence erupts at London derbyWest Ham fans invaded the pitch after their equaliserA man has been stabbed in the chest during violence involving "hundreds" of fans at West Ham's Upton Park stadium during a game with Millwall.Fights broke out at 1915 BST and were still raging more than an hour later. A 44-year-old man is table after being stabbed in Priory Road at 2025 BST.A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "It looks like there has been some planned trouble from fans."Inside Upton Park West Ham fans invaded the pitch after their team scored.It took officials about six minutes to clear the pitch and police had to redeploy within the stadium to stop the invasion.The Met spokesman added: "Hundreds of fans are estimated to be involved."It was like a war zone - there was fighting all aroundMillwall fanOne pub reportedly had its windows broken by bricks during running battles across several streets up to half a mile from the stadium.Five arrests have been confirmed, including one for affray and one for breaching a banning order.British Transport Police said they heard reports of minor overcrowding at Upton Park Tube station.BBC radio reporter Ben Jacobs, who is at the stadium, said he had heard a second person had been stabbed, although police said they had no confirmation of this.Mr Jacobs also said Millwall fans will be kept inside the stadium for 30 minutes after the game.Describing how the violence erupted, Mr Jacobs said: "The trouble broke out outside the Tube station about 600 yards from the ground."There were 500 to 1,000 riot police and Millwall fans managed to break through the divide."Bottles were thrown and bricks were as well."He added: "There has been a bit of trouble inside the ground."There was a penalty shout and fans started gesturing and throwing small objects."'Burly bald man'Aaron Smith from Hemel Hempstead, who was at the game, said: "I saw one man cornered by at least a dozen Millwall fans before kick-off. Terrifying scenes."Eyewitness Fergal O'Brien said: "I saw a West Ham fan getting punched in the face by a burly bald man who had a coin between his fists."Another fan said: "I was in a throng walking up and a group of hooligans came for us."The police wanted to help but they were clearly afraid to use force. I am still shaking. I thought I was going to die."Ben Newton, from Harrow, north London, said his father had been stretchered away after being hit with a dart to the head.And a Millwall fan told the BBC: "It was like a war zone outside the stadium. There was fighting all round."I brought my kids with me tonight and they've seen some violence that is indescribable."
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El Floppo said:
Steve Tasker said:
andy_b said:
El Floppo said:
FWIW- there was an article on ESPN.com a year or so ago about a kid in our youth system... the son of former pro- who was looking like the next "guy"- wish I could remember his name. I caught him play v Brasil for the u15s (maybe?) on TV- tallish, quick and fast and very attack minded. Seemed to have caught the attention of Brasil- they consistently collapsed 2 or 3 defenders on him whenever he got near the ball and he still tried to attack them with ball at feet.

Anybody know this kid's name? I watched part of that game and immediately started thinking about LD and Adu as youth players when I watched him.
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I am drawing a blank.Here is the current U17 and U15 player pools in case it rings any bells

http://www.ussoccer.com/Teams/Youth/US-Und...layer-Pool.aspx

http://www.ussoccer.com/Teams/Youth/US-Und...layer-Pool.aspx
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Not sure if it's the kid you're talking about, but I've heard great, great, things about Jack McInerney. I don't remember where, though.
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I think it might be Stefan Jerome... but I remember this ESPN article being different, so it might be another kid.
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Could you be referring to Charles Renkin. I remember reading some pretty high praise for him a year or so ago. He's 15. Anyway, yesterday, he and Joseph-Claude Gyau signed with 1899 Hoffenheim.
 
prefontaine said:
El Floppo said:
I think it might be Stefan Jerome... but I remember this ESPN article being different, so it might be another kid.
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Could you be referring to Charles Renkin. I remember reading some pretty high praise for him a year or so ago. He's 15. Anyway, yesterday, he and Joseph-Claude Gyau signed with 1899 Hoffenheim.
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Good god, what a story... So easy to forget how much we have here in the US- even when things are bleak.Amazing story, and look forward to seeing more about him- but Charles Bimbe Renken wasn't the kid. Pretty sure it was Jerome.

 
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caught a few minutes of the salzburg game tuesday. wasn't paying the greatest attention, but i heard the announcer say something along the following: 'he was born in philadelphia, in the us.' they were playing the team from israel. any idea who he was talking about?

 
eagles2007 said:
caught a few minutes of the salzburg game tuesday. wasn't paying the greatest attention, but i heard the announcer say something along the following: 'he was born in philadelphia, in the us.' they were playing the team from israel. any idea who he was talking about?
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GK Eddie Gustafsson
 
eagles2007 said:
Steve Tasker said:
eagles2007 said:
caught a few minutes of the salzburg game tuesday. wasn't paying the greatest attention, but i heard the announcer say something along the following: 'he was born in philadelphia, in the us.' they were playing the team from israel. any idea who he was talking about?
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GK Eddie Gustafsson
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figured you'd know and figured you'd be in here. is there anything you don't know ... lol?
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Well, I only knew that cause I watched the game yesterday....
 
El Floppo said:
prefontaine said:
El Floppo said:
I think it might be Stefan Jerome... but I remember this ESPN article being different, so it might be another kid.
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Could you be referring to Charles Renkin. I remember reading some pretty high praise for him a year or so ago. He's 15. Anyway, yesterday, he and Joseph-Claude Gyau signed with 1899 Hoffenheim.
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Good god, what a story... So easy to forget how much we have here in the US- even when things are bleak.Amazing story, and look forward to seeing more about him- but Charles Bimbe Renken wasn't the kid. Pretty sure it was Jerome.
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I remember reading that story last year. Obviously the first big test will be the U17 World Cup for him. I sadly am always skeptical about the ages though of the African immigrants. Dominating a U14 league was he was 10 just sounds a bit too good to be true.Although I am always hopeful...

 
andy_b said:
El Floppo said:
prefontaine said:
El Floppo said:
I think it might be Stefan Jerome... but I remember this ESPN article being different, so it might be another kid.
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Could you be referring to Charles Renkin. I remember reading some pretty high praise for him a year or so ago. He's 15. Anyway, yesterday, he and Joseph-Claude Gyau signed with 1899 Hoffenheim.
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Good god, what a story... So easy to forget how much we have here in the US- even when things are bleak.Amazing story, and look forward to seeing more about him- but Charles Bimbe Renken wasn't the kid. Pretty sure it was Jerome.
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I remember reading that story last year. Obviously the first big test will be the U17 World Cup for him. I sadly am always skeptical about the ages though of the African immigrants. Dominating a U14 league was he was 10 just sounds a bit too good to be true.Although I am always hopeful...
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This was the article I had read...I've never heard of Stefan Jerome.
 
Steve Tasker said:
And the award for Best Actor goes to....

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Eduardo, Arsenal vs. Celtic, August 26, 2009!!!
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Scottish FA calls for 2 game suspension.As an Arsenal fan and as a fan of soccer, I hope Eduardo does get suspended. I am so sick of the blatant diving and feigning of serious injury that I don't mind at all if an Arsenal player is made an example. Anything that might help to prevent these sorts of incidents in the future, I am all for.

 
prefontaine said:
andy_b said:
Moe. said:
Jozy scored his first goal today for Hull against Southend in the Carling Cup.
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excellent! This is the type of start we all hoped for so that he can keep on the field.If anyone finds a link of the goal, please post...
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Thanks for tracking that down. The first goal was a real cracker. The one by Jozy was very nice as well. I hope Jozy can keep it up and bring a whole ton of confidence into the reamainder of qualifying for the U.S.
 
guru_007 said:
Mjolnirs said:
Champions League group stage draw today.

:popcorn:
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love the UEFA coefficient system having Chelsea & Liverpool ranked ahead of ManU.Link to Liverpool having done anything lately? :popcorn:
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"The club coefficient is determined by the results of a club in European club competition in the last five seasons, and the league coefficient. The club coefficient is 33% of the league coefficient plus the number of points earned by the club in the five seasons. Before 2004 the contribution of the country coefficient was 50%. The points earned by a club in the preliminary rounds are not counted."
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I'm guessing finishing 1st and 2nd helps :unsure:
 
walnutz said:
prefontaine said:
andy_b said:
Jozy scored his first goal today for Hull against Southend in the Carling Cup.
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excellent! This is the type of start we all hoped for so that he can keep on the field.If anyone finds a link of the goal, please post...
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We could really use a strong performance out of him against El Salvador. This is not only a relative must win for the US, it is likely the last time we can gain some ground on goal differential. Obviously a 1-0 win will be very much welcomed but a 3 goal win would be fantastic.
 
Can't wait for the CL draw.

Obviously, if we´re talking chances to win it, Real needs to be in the 1st tier. They're better than Sevilla easily, and Arsenal likely.

Rangers don't belong in the 2nd tier, and neither do AZ or CSKA Moscow.

 
You can pencil Manchester United into the knockout round now....drawn with CSKA and Besiktas

Chelsea, Porto, Atletico should be interesting.

Group G definitely the dud this far...Sevilla, Rangers, Stuttgart

 
Group A - Bayern, Juventus, Bordeaux, Maccabi Haifa

Group B - Manchester, CSKA Moskva, Beşiktaş, Wolfsburg

Group C - Milan, Real Madrid, Marseille, Zürich

Group D - Chelsea, Porto, Atlético, APOEL

Group E - Liverpool, Lyon, Fiorentina, Debrecen

Group F - Barcelona, Inter, Dynamo Kyiv, Rubin

Group G - Sevilla, Rangers, Stuttgart, Unirea Urziceni

Group H - Arsenal, AZ Alkmaar, Olympiacos, Standard

 
Mjolnirs said:
Group A - Bayern, Juventus, Bordeaux, Maccabi HaifaGroup B - Manchester, CSKA Moskva, Beşiktaş, WolfsburgGroup C - Milan, Real Madrid, Marseille, ZürichGroup D - Chelsea, Porto, Atlético, APOELGroup E - Liverpool, Lyon, Fiorentina, DebrecenGroup F - Barcelona, Inter, Dynamo Kyiv, RubinGroup G - Sevilla, Rangers, Stuttgart, Unirea UrziceniGroup H - Arsenal, AZ Alkmaar, Olympiacos, Standard
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glllll Kyiv and Rubin
 
Couple of news and notes.....

Richard Dunne appears to be moving from Man City to Aston Villa. This is certainly a needed move, as Villa's central defense has been putrid. Dunne may not be the most talented defender in the EPL, but he brings a nice tenacity to his play which may be just what the doctor ordered. Aston Villa is a very interesting team to watch this year, as they have a strong attack and decent midfield, but nothing at the back, poor Brad Friedel will be under constant pressure.

Tons of second leg Europa league action today, one that I have been keeping my eye on was Everton, who have been down to 10 men for almost the entire game, and were up 1-0 up until the 80th or so, when they got tied up. That's still pretty strong (shot discrepancy is something like 20-1).

I keep hearing rumors that Anderson is going to be let go by Manchester United. Evidently there was some sort of flare up between him and Sir Alex. Anderson is an extremely gifted player and would flourish given the right situation....United is a bit more structured and patient in their attack and build up which can be frustrating for guys like Anderson and Nani. Playing time has also been an issue...and probably Anderson is getting the short end of the stick as Ferguson gives more than enough time to guys like Scholes (who is done), Fletcher, Giggs, older guard kind of guys. I'd hate to see Anderson go, but I guess you can't keep everyone.

Robben may be off to Bayern Munich, which is not a bad landing ground for him, imho. Bayern's on a down and could use a gifted young player.

 
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