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Very busy offseason for Chelsea as they completed two more signings today:* Victor Moses, 21, Nigerian/English Winger from Wigan for £7M (with £2M in potential add ons)* Cesar Azpilicueta, 22, Spanish Right Back from Marseille for £6.5MSeems like reasonable prices for two young, emerging players. Moses was arguably the best player on the pitch (maybe after Hazard) when Wigan played Chelsea last week. He schooled Ashley Cole on the right on several occasions. His crossing needs work but his pace and dribbling provides another dimension to Chelsea's attack. I wonder how they'll use him - as Di Matteo has not been using traditional wingers. With only two strikers on the roster (Torres and Sturridge), its possible they may deploy him in a more advanced role in addition to positioning him on the flank. I cant speak to Azpilicuetas talents, but he gives Chelsea more cover at RB where theyre currently playing Ivanovic, whos really a central defender playing out of position. Ivanovic is playing so well right now that I dont know if/when Azpilicueta will see the field. Lots of rumors circulating that Chelsea have received ~£30M bids for Luiz from City and Barca. That transfer could trigger a move back to a central role for Ivanovic and make room for Azpilicueta on the right.
It's been a great window for Chelsea fans, other than losing DD. The team has a great stable of young exciting talent and a bright future with very committed and wealthy ownership. With JT and Luiz both potentially out tomorrow against Newcastle, I wonder how quickly Cesar can be ready to play. After what I saw in the exhibition games, I shudder to think about lining up with Paulo in the back line against Cisse and Ba.
Good work abiding by Financial Fair Play. :thumbup:
They got an estimated EUR 60M for "winning" the Champions League
:lmao:
 
Henry had a baby boy today. Not sure if he was born in US or not. If so we have the seedlings for both Ronaldo and Henry as US citizens now :)

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Just read that he is going to England so probably not a US citizen.

 
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Very busy offseason for Chelsea as they completed two more signings today:* Victor Moses, 21, Nigerian/English Winger from Wigan for £7M (with £2M in potential add ons)* Cesar Azpilicueta, 22, Spanish Right Back from Marseille for £6.5MSeems like reasonable prices for two young, emerging players. Moses was arguably the best player on the pitch (maybe after Hazard) when Wigan played Chelsea last week. He schooled Ashley Cole on the right on several occasions. His crossing needs work but his pace and dribbling provides another dimension to Chelsea's attack. I wonder how they'll use him - as Di Matteo has not been using traditional wingers. With only two strikers on the roster (Torres and Sturridge), its possible they may deploy him in a more advanced role in addition to positioning him on the flank. I cant speak to Azpilicuetas talents, but he gives Chelsea more cover at RB where theyre currently playing Ivanovic, whos really a central defender playing out of position. Ivanovic is playing so well right now that I dont know if/when Azpilicueta will see the field. Lots of rumors circulating that Chelsea have received ~£30M bids for Luiz from City and Barca. That transfer could trigger a move back to a central role for Ivanovic and make room for Azpilicueta on the right.
It's been a great window for Chelsea fans, other than losing DD. The team has a great stable of young exciting talent and a bright future with very committed and wealthy ownership. With JT and Luiz both potentially out tomorrow against Newcastle, I wonder how quickly Cesar can be ready to play. After what I saw in the exhibition games, I shudder to think about lining up with Paulo in the back line against Cisse and Ba.
Good work abiding by Financial Fair Play. :thumbup:
They got an estimated EUR 60M for "winning" the Champions League
It won't be too difficult for the big spenders to comply with FFP in the first year as it is phased in. I've read quite a bit about FFP recently and I think there's a decent chance that it will be effective in accomplishing the stated goals. Fans who expect FFP to create an NFL-style "parity" among clubs large and small will be disappointed as that is not its purpose. I believe the huge debt spending by clubs like Chelsea, City, PSG, and others is ultimately harmful to Euro football, but it always has been and likely always will be a sport of have and have-nots. I became a Chelsea fan a few years after Ken Bates bought the club for 1 pound and am very familiar with and comfortable with that reality. Indeed the FFP rules will perpetuate the big club / small club status quo, but should bring some sanity to the business in terms of transfer fees and salaries, assuming the rules are enforced as written. Incidently, one thing that will help Chelsea and several other clubs with expiring shirt sponsor deals in the coming year was Man United's insane deal with GM, which was inexplicably announced two years before it goes into effect. It has been speculated that a marketing exec at GM was already terminated over that deal. It will definitely help Chels in its negotiations when the current contract with Samsung expires next year. As FFP measures club income against expense, including sponsor income, Chelsea could benefit from the ManU deal and use those funds to stay within FFP requirements.
 
Very busy offseason for Chelsea as they completed two more signings today:* Victor Moses, 21, Nigerian/English Winger from Wigan for £7M (with £2M in potential add ons)* Cesar Azpilicueta, 22, Spanish Right Back from Marseille for £6.5MSeems like reasonable prices for two young, emerging players. Moses was arguably the best player on the pitch (maybe after Hazard) when Wigan played Chelsea last week. He schooled Ashley Cole on the right on several occasions. His crossing needs work but his pace and dribbling provides another dimension to Chelsea's attack. I wonder how they'll use him - as Di Matteo has not been using traditional wingers. With only two strikers on the roster (Torres and Sturridge), its possible they may deploy him in a more advanced role in addition to positioning him on the flank. I cant speak to Azpilicuetas talents, but he gives Chelsea more cover at RB where theyre currently playing Ivanovic, whos really a central defender playing out of position. Ivanovic is playing so well right now that I dont know if/when Azpilicueta will see the field. Lots of rumors circulating that Chelsea have received ~£30M bids for Luiz from City and Barca. That transfer could trigger a move back to a central role for Ivanovic and make room for Azpilicueta on the right.
It's been a great window for Chelsea fans, other than losing DD. The team has a great stable of young exciting talent and a bright future with very committed and wealthy ownership. With JT and Luiz both potentially out tomorrow against Newcastle, I wonder how quickly Cesar can be ready to play. After what I saw in the exhibition games, I shudder to think about lining up with Paulo in the back line against Cisse and Ba.
Good work abiding by Financial Fair Play. :thumbup:
They got an estimated EUR 60M for "winning" the Champions League
It won't be too difficult for the big spenders to comply with FFP in the first year as it is phased in. I've read quite a bit about FFP recently and I think there's a decent chance that it will be effective in accomplishing the stated goals. Fans who expect FFP to create an NFL-style "parity" among clubs large and small will be disappointed as that is not its purpose. I believe the huge debt spending by clubs like Chelsea, City, PSG, and others is ultimately harmful to Euro football, but it always has been and likely always will be a sport of have and have-nots. I became a Chelsea fan a few years after Ken Bates bought the club for 1 pound and am very familiar with and comfortable with that reality. Indeed the FFP rules will perpetuate the big club / small club status quo, but should bring some sanity to the business in terms of transfer fees and salaries, assuming the rules are enforced as written. Incidently, one thing that will help Chelsea and several other clubs with expiring shirt sponsor deals in the coming year was Man United's insane deal with GM, which was inexplicably announced two years before it goes into effect. It has been speculated that a marketing exec at GM was already terminated over that deal. It will definitely help Chels in its negotiations when the current contract with Samsung expires next year. As FFP measures club income against expense, including sponsor income, Chelsea could benefit from the ManU deal and use those funds to stay within FFP requirements.
Abramovich's deep pockets are the club's biggest asset but Stamford Bridge is its biggest liability. It's small, old and hemmed in by SW6. They already tried to develop Chelsea Village with limited success. They'll face resistance from the borough if they try to expand the facility in place and they've already lost out on the Battersea Power Station bid. I suppose they'll eventually find a place to build but I think there's a limit to how many stadiums London can support. They're already behind the Emirates and the Olympic Stadium and are in danger of slipping behind the White Hart Lane redevelopment. Maybe Chelsea can ground share with AFC Wimbledon at the new Plough Lane.
 
Fulham boss Martin Jol has offered Clint Dempsey a way back to the first team.Jol is frustrated that he has been left with an unsettled player, but has offered an olive branch to Fulham's top scorer of last season."Mentally Clint wants to move, he doesn't want to stay here. His head was turned and that was the problem," Jol said on Thursday."It's a problem and a situation you don't want. It's not something you can talk to a player about every day because he doesn't want to."I don't know if he'll remain a Fulham player. I'd love to keep him, but I'm not sure."Hopefully if he stays, then in the next couple of weeks he will change his thoughts about us."With me there's no problem and I don't think there's a problem within the team over him."Jol denied Dempsey had refused to play for Fulham again, instead declaring it was his decision to drop the 29-year-old, who has entered the final year of his contract."I never said he's gone on strike," he said. "It started during our pre-season tour to Germany. I was probably a bit naive, asking 'Clint, do you want to start?'. All he said was 'you know what I want'."This hasn't caused any disruption to the squad because of the decision I made in Germany not to play him."After that it was very difficult to communicate. He was not committed to the team."For us it would have been better had Liverpool followed it up with a formal bid, but they haven't."
 
Very busy offseason for Chelsea as they completed two more signings today:* Victor Moses, 21, Nigerian/English Winger from Wigan for £7M (with £2M in potential add ons)* Cesar Azpilicueta, 22, Spanish Right Back from Marseille for £6.5MSeems like reasonable prices for two young, emerging players. Moses was arguably the best player on the pitch (maybe after Hazard) when Wigan played Chelsea last week. He schooled Ashley Cole on the right on several occasions. His crossing needs work but his pace and dribbling provides another dimension to Chelsea's attack. I wonder how they'll use him - as Di Matteo has not been using traditional wingers. With only two strikers on the roster (Torres and Sturridge), its possible they may deploy him in a more advanced role in addition to positioning him on the flank. I cant speak to Azpilicuetas talents, but he gives Chelsea more cover at RB where theyre currently playing Ivanovic, whos really a central defender playing out of position. Ivanovic is playing so well right now that I dont know if/when Azpilicueta will see the field. Lots of rumors circulating that Chelsea have received ~£30M bids for Luiz from City and Barca. That transfer could trigger a move back to a central role for Ivanovic and make room for Azpilicueta on the right.
It's been a great window for Chelsea fans, other than losing DD. The team has a great stable of young exciting talent and a bright future with very committed and wealthy ownership. With JT and Luiz both potentially out tomorrow against Newcastle, I wonder how quickly Cesar can be ready to play. After what I saw in the exhibition games, I shudder to think about lining up with Paulo in the back line against Cisse and Ba.
Good work abiding by Financial Fair Play. :thumbup:
They got an estimated EUR 60M for "winning" the Champions League
It won't be too difficult for the big spenders to comply with FFP in the first year as it is phased in. I've read quite a bit about FFP recently and I think there's a decent chance that it will be effective in accomplishing the stated goals. Fans who expect FFP to create an NFL-style "parity" among clubs large and small will be disappointed as that is not its purpose. I believe the huge debt spending by clubs like Chelsea, City, PSG, and others is ultimately harmful to Euro football, but it always has been and likely always will be a sport of have and have-nots. I became a Chelsea fan a few years after Ken Bates bought the club for 1 pound and am very familiar with and comfortable with that reality. Indeed the FFP rules will perpetuate the big club / small club status quo, but should bring some sanity to the business in terms of transfer fees and salaries, assuming the rules are enforced as written. Incidently, one thing that will help Chelsea and several other clubs with expiring shirt sponsor deals in the coming year was Man United's insane deal with GM, which was inexplicably announced two years before it goes into effect. It has been speculated that a marketing exec at GM was already terminated over that deal. It will definitely help Chels in its negotiations when the current contract with Samsung expires next year. As FFP measures club income against expense, including sponsor income, Chelsea could benefit from the ManU deal and use those funds to stay within FFP requirements.
Abramovich's deep pockets are the club's biggest asset but Stamford Bridge is its biggest liability. It's small, old and hemmed in by SW6. They already tried to develop Chelsea Village with limited success. They'll face resistance from the borough if they try to expand the facility in place and they've already lost out on the Battersea Power Station bid. I suppose they'll eventually find a place to build but I think there's a limit to how many stadiums London can support. They're already behind the Emirates and the Olympic Stadium and are in danger of slipping behind the White Hart Lane redevelopment. Maybe Chelsea can ground share with AFC Wimbledon at the new Plough Lane.
The stadium stuff has been quiet for a while now and I've lost track. Battersea would have been awesome. One interesting aspect of FFP is that infrastructure expenses are not counted in the P&L calculation (nor are youth development expenses), while income from the facilities of course is counted on the plus side of the ledger. Some see that as a loophole of sorts, and it may create an avenue for abuse, but it is consistent with the FFP goal of encouraging investment in the club and financial stability.
 
Very busy offseason for Chelsea as they completed two more signings today:* Victor Moses, 21, Nigerian/English Winger from Wigan for £7M (with £2M in potential add ons)* Cesar Azpilicueta, 22, Spanish Right Back from Marseille for £6.5MSeems like reasonable prices for two young, emerging players. Moses was arguably the best player on the pitch (maybe after Hazard) when Wigan played Chelsea last week. He schooled Ashley Cole on the right on several occasions. His crossing needs work but his pace and dribbling provides another dimension to Chelsea's attack. I wonder how they'll use him - as Di Matteo has not been using traditional wingers. With only two strikers on the roster (Torres and Sturridge), its possible they may deploy him in a more advanced role in addition to positioning him on the flank. I cant speak to Azpilicuetas talents, but he gives Chelsea more cover at RB where theyre currently playing Ivanovic, whos really a central defender playing out of position. Ivanovic is playing so well right now that I dont know if/when Azpilicueta will see the field. Lots of rumors circulating that Chelsea have received ~£30M bids for Luiz from City and Barca. That transfer could trigger a move back to a central role for Ivanovic and make room for Azpilicueta on the right.
It's been a great window for Chelsea fans, other than losing DD. The team has a great stable of young exciting talent and a bright future with very committed and wealthy ownership. With JT and Luiz both potentially out tomorrow against Newcastle, I wonder how quickly Cesar can be ready to play. After what I saw in the exhibition games, I shudder to think about lining up with Paulo in the back line against Cisse and Ba.
I suppose they could recall Lukaku but they're not particularly deep up top. Last year at this time, they had Drogba, Torres, Anelka, Sturridge, Lukaku and Kalou.
I would be surprised if the club has the right to recall Lukaku from West Brom, but even if they do I think that would be a mistake. He had a miserable, wasted season last year and it was tough on him coming after his instant and huge success at Anderlecht. He was pissed off (rightfully so I think) and made some ill-advised comments in the press which did not sit well with many fans. He's only 19 and I think he's in a perfect spot with this loan. If Torres can't deliver, and the Hazard to Ivanovich combo fails to maintain its current 1-goal-per-game pace, I'd expect RDM will look to Sturridge first, and then perhaps move to a false 9 type attack using all that MF attacking firepower on the team. In that event, we'd have truly become that which we supposedly hate.
 
Ok- so let's keep score for us US fans who don't really give a #### about EPL other than what it means to us.

Everton: Howard... maybe LD

Stoke: Cameron

Fulham: Dempsey

Spurs: Friedl

Aston Villa: Guzan, Lichaj

Is that really it? 3 GKs, 2 CBs and one offensive player?
That is it for the "big" names as we lost both Ream and Holden when Bolton got relegated.Villyan Bijev (19 year old who has been with US youth national teams) is with Liverpool although is expected to be loaned out again (he was loaned to Fortuna Dusseldorf last season from Liverpool).
Brian Sciaretta (@BrianSciaretta)

8/24/12 5:39 PM

If you missed it, I've confirmed that US U20 fwd Villyan Bijev will go on loan from Liverpool to IK Start thru end of Norway's season

Brian Sciaretta (@BrianSciaretta)

8/24/12 5:41 PM

Bijev's loan to IK Start has no option to buy but he may get loaned there again next year until he can secure UK work permit in 2014.

 
SUNDERLAND, England (AP) -- Premier League side Sunderland has signed winger Adam Johnson from Manchester City on a four-year contract on Friday.

Johnson scored 11 goals in 73 appearances for City but has been increasingly sidelined by the English champion.

He says "It feels fantastic (to be here) ... It's great to have signed and it's a fresh start.''

Johnson is Sunderland's fourth signing this summer striker Steven Fletcher from Wolverhampton Wanderers, defender Carlos Cuellar (Aston Villa) and Louis Saha (Tottenham).
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/soccer/08/24/adam-johnson-sunderland-manchester-city.ap/index.html#ixzz24WZiKKq8

 
Very busy offseason for Chelsea as they completed two more signings today:* Victor Moses, 21, Nigerian/English Winger from Wigan for £7M (with £2M in potential add ons)* Cesar Azpilicueta, 22, Spanish Right Back from Marseille for £6.5MSeems like reasonable prices for two young, emerging players. Moses was arguably the best player on the pitch (maybe after Hazard) when Wigan played Chelsea last week. He schooled Ashley Cole on the right on several occasions. His crossing needs work but his pace and dribbling provides another dimension to Chelsea's attack. I wonder how they'll use him - as Di Matteo has not been using traditional wingers. With only two strikers on the roster (Torres and Sturridge), its possible they may deploy him in a more advanced role in addition to positioning him on the flank. I cant speak to Azpilicuetas talents, but he gives Chelsea more cover at RB where theyre currently playing Ivanovic, whos really a central defender playing out of position. Ivanovic is playing so well right now that I dont know if/when Azpilicueta will see the field. Lots of rumors circulating that Chelsea have received ~£30M bids for Luiz from City and Barca. That transfer could trigger a move back to a central role for Ivanovic and make room for Azpilicueta on the right.
It's been a great window for Chelsea fans, other than losing DD. The team has a great stable of young exciting talent and a bright future with very committed and wealthy ownership. With JT and Luiz both potentially out tomorrow against Newcastle, I wonder how quickly Cesar can be ready to play. After what I saw in the exhibition games, I shudder to think about lining up with Paulo in the back line against Cisse and Ba.
Good work abiding by Financial Fair Play. :thumbup:
They got an estimated EUR 60M for winning the Champions League
That entire sum wouldn't even cover last year's losses.
 
Very busy offseason for Chelsea as they completed two more signings today:* Victor Moses, 21, Nigerian/English Winger from Wigan for £7M (with £2M in potential add ons)* Cesar Azpilicueta, 22, Spanish Right Back from Marseille for £6.5MSeems like reasonable prices for two young, emerging players. Moses was arguably the best player on the pitch (maybe after Hazard) when Wigan played Chelsea last week. He schooled Ashley Cole on the right on several occasions. His crossing needs work but his pace and dribbling provides another dimension to Chelsea's attack. I wonder how they'll use him - as Di Matteo has not been using traditional wingers. With only two strikers on the roster (Torres and Sturridge), its possible they may deploy him in a more advanced role in addition to positioning him on the flank. I cant speak to Azpilicuetas talents, but he gives Chelsea more cover at RB where theyre currently playing Ivanovic, whos really a central defender playing out of position. Ivanovic is playing so well right now that I dont know if/when Azpilicueta will see the field. Lots of rumors circulating that Chelsea have received ~£30M bids for Luiz from City and Barca. That transfer could trigger a move back to a central role for Ivanovic and make room for Azpilicueta on the right.
It's been a great window for Chelsea fans, other than losing DD. The team has a great stable of young exciting talent and a bright future with very committed and wealthy ownership. With JT and Luiz both potentially out tomorrow against Newcastle, I wonder how quickly Cesar can be ready to play. After what I saw in the exhibition games, I shudder to think about lining up with Paulo in the back line against Cisse and Ba.
Good work abiding by Financial Fair Play. :thumbup:
They got an estimated EUR 60M for winning the Champions League
That entire sum wouldn't even cover last year's losses.
In Soviet Chelsea, last year's losses don't cover you
 
Swansea will be top of the table (until Chelsea plays, at least) with what is currently a very impressive +8 GD
Doesn't look like they are even going to miss Sinclair and will have money now for the winter window in case they need to add depth.
They have excellent movement...Love how they play down the wings...Dyer is impressiveNow all this is taken with a grain of salt, as it is against QPR and West Ham, but Swansea is a fun team to watch
 
Swansea will be top of the table (until Chelsea plays, at least) with what is currently a very impressive +8 GD
Doesn't look like they are even going to miss Sinclair and will have money now for the winter window in case they need to add depth.
They have excellent movement...Love how they play down the wings...Dyer is impressiveNow all this is taken with a grain of salt, as it is against QPR and West Ham, but Swansea is a fun team to watch
The thing I like is that they're up 3-nil and continuing to attack. They're playing keep-away at times but it's on the attack half and at least they're not playing park the bus.
 
Swansea will be top of the table (until Chelsea plays, at least) with what is currently a very impressive +8 GD
Doesn't look like they are even going to miss Sinclair and will have money now for the winter window in case they need to add depth.
They have excellent movement...Love how they play down the wings...Dyer is impressiveNow all this is taken with a grain of salt, as it is against QPR and West Ham, but Swansea is a fun team to watch
The thing I like is that they're up 3-nil and continuing to attack. They're playing keep-away at times but it's on the attack half and at least they're not playing park the bus.
Well, WH aren't doing anything that would cause them to park the bus.
 
'bosoxs45 said:
Why was the Reading-Sunderland game PPD?
Sunderland’s decision to host a series of pop concerts over the summer will be questioned after they were forced to call off their opening home game of the season against Reading, whose manager Brian McDermott said there was “obviously a problem” with the Stadium of Light’s newly-laid pitch.
:lol: LINK

 

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