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Desert_Power
Footballguy
Toni has perfected the art of diving and fouling simultaneously.
Native
Footballguy
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Well, he is Italian.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I don't think there is a less enjoyable player to watch play.Keita just buried Bayern's chances.
scoobygang
Footballguy
This is unbelievable.
whoknew
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Flipping back and forth between the games, I was amazed by the difference in speed-of-play between both games. Chelsea and Liverpool were playing balls out from the opening whistle... the Barca v Bayern game looked like a speed-walking event in comparison.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
Great game. Would've preferred Liverpool advanced but Chelsea going to the semi finals is well deserved.
eagles2007
Footballguy
if every game could produce 8 goals, the game would be a huge success in the u.s. and probably be no. 2 behind football.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
El Floppo said:I really, really want this to play every time I enter a room- my own personal theme music.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I missed the story- thought he was suspended... he was just benched instead?
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
He has a groin injury. The speculation is that he perhas could have played (at less than 100%) and that Benitez may have felt the CL was out of reach after the result at Anfield last week, and wanted to preserve Gerrard for the EPL run. I don't think anyone knows for certain, but certainly a groin is something that can linger and can be aggravated and worsened if not fully healed.
andy_b
Footballguy
I am a huge proponent of more offense in soccer and would even be willing to consider rule changes to help it along (like most of the other sports do to help the offense).Soccer around the world tends to average about 2.5-3 goals a game. I would love to see that average closer to 5 goals a game but that would likely take more tinkering with the sport than most people could stomach.
scoobygang
Footballguy
It's fine to want more goals, but I'm not sure I'd want to see the games look like Liverpool/Chelsea from yesterday. Sure, there was tons of drama, but that's because there were just a ton of errors. It wasn't a "good" football game. Petr Cech, in particular, looked like he was playing house team soccer with a bunch of 12 year olds.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The lesson from yesterday it seems is that comically crappy goalkeeping makes for entertaining soccer. I think you and I have been critical of Cech for some time now. The neon orange jersey he's taken to this year hasn't helped - he's just a goofball. Reina probably wasn't quite as bad as Cech overall, but his horror moment on Drogba's goal was the howler of the day.
scoobygang
Footballguy
I think both teams' first goals are in a dead heat for that honor. When you're dressed like a traffic cone with a styrofoam skullcap on your head, it's hard to look much sillier. Cech somehow managed it. There seems to be an epidemic of curious goalkeeper positioning on free kicks. I thought Friedel made a weird choice in the Villa / ManU game a few weeks ago, but Cech gave the guy a straight shot at about 6 feet of the goalmouth. And as the ESPN gamecast said, Cech flapped around like a drunken octopus every time a cross came in.The good news for the Blues is that Drogba is definitely in the mood right now.
Kendall
I heart waffles
Soccernet's commentary was at least keeping me from ripping out my hair. Really wish I had been able to see the game.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Going to take a LONG lunch and catch at most of the 2 CL games today. I invited a few co-workers who don't like soccer much and told them that if they come, bring your own car, or enjoy over 2 hours of wonderful Champions League Football.
andy_b
Footballguy
not sure what service you have but Direct TV allows one to program their DVR via the Direct TV web site. Makes it nice for those times when you do forget.
TLEF316
Footballguy
yeah, thats what we have. however, i dont have our log-in info. i'm not the one who pays the bill.
andy_b
Footballguy
ok. Too bad you can't just call the person who has the log in information and ask them to do it for you (or just give you the log in and you do it yourself).
TLEF316
Footballguy
Unfortunatly, this isnt an option today. Busy work day for all parties (plus the direct TV site is blocked here at work for some reason). O well.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Walcott! Arsenal with the early breakthrough after a hot start
B Maverick
Footballguy
HISTORY, 1st English side to win at Portobeautiful goal by ronaldo and United are through!!! Bring on Arsenal!
Porto had a few chances as the United Defense couldnt clear a ball to save their lives and several balls were given away to Porto for a counter.
Vidic should have scored his but went over from 6 yards out.
I was very disaapointed in the reffing. Very much pro Porto, very inconsistant, he went from calling ticky tak fouls to calling nothing. Several times both teams stopped for a foul and the ref stood there with his whistle in his ####. Rooney's shot in the 70th should have resulted in a PK for handball. Yes i know that is a tough call to make, but the Porto player slides, the ball goes under him 5 hole and hits his arm. PK.
Rooney was whacked at the top of the box earlier in the game with no call. Heck, Evra gets carded on a collision. Ok a foul on him for being late? maybe. But Porto is in cleats up.
Not to mention the foul on oshea at the top of the box when he clearly played the ball on a great tackle then the off balance porto player trips over him.
Oh well, game over on to the semis!!!!!!!
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I went out for a lunch with 4 guys who aren't soccer fans.
They left early and I stayed to watch the whole thing.
GD Villarreal had nothing on offense. Not happy about any of these teams really.
They left early and I stayed to watch the whole thing.
GD Villarreal had nothing on offense. Not happy about any of these teams really.
kerpow
Footballguy
For the third year running we have 3 English teams in the CL Semis.
Well played English TV rights negotiators and marketing departments! You continually dominate foreign clubs at paying the best footballers in the world the highest salaries and branding your club so attractively to underpaid workers in third-world nations.
Let us rejoice!
Well played English TV rights negotiators and marketing departments! You continually dominate foreign clubs at paying the best footballers in the world the highest salaries and branding your club so attractively to underpaid workers in third-world nations.
Let us rejoice!
So
United/Arsenal
Chelsea/Barca
Dream matchup would be United/Barcelona, widely regarded as the best two clubs in the world. United has soooooooo many matches played this year. They have Everton coming up in the FA semi's this weekend, followed by Pompey and Spurs, fortunately both at Old Trafford. You can really tell the heavy workload is catching up to them, as after going through an astonishingly long clean sheet streak in the EPL, they have been very vulnerable at the back. It's difficult to keep the entire team at full healthy playing so often. Rio, Vidic, Brown and Evra have all had injuries this year, and Ronaldo coming off surgery, and Rooney was hurt earlier in the year. Really have not been getting the expected contributions from Tevez and Berbatov this year.
I think United is going to get tripped up either in FA or CL matches coming down the stretch. The competition gets more heated. However, I do not think Arsenal has what it takes to get it done vs United and I'd much prefer be matched up against them, while watching Chelsea and Barca go at it. Everton has a shot in a one-game match vs ManU, however they are missing their most potent offensive playmaker, so they will really need to hope for a set piece or a United blunder at the back.
Liverpool not advancing may very well help their premiership title thoughts. United limping badly coming down the stretch (destroyed by Liverpool, loss to Fullham and only late winners vs Villa and Sunderland), the only thing going in United favor is the weak competition they face on out - Pompey, Spurs, @ Boro, City, @ Wigan, Arsenal, @ Hull - only game against a top 8 side is at home vs Arsenal.
Here's to a great April/May....June?
United/Arsenal
Chelsea/Barca
Dream matchup would be United/Barcelona, widely regarded as the best two clubs in the world. United has soooooooo many matches played this year. They have Everton coming up in the FA semi's this weekend, followed by Pompey and Spurs, fortunately both at Old Trafford. You can really tell the heavy workload is catching up to them, as after going through an astonishingly long clean sheet streak in the EPL, they have been very vulnerable at the back. It's difficult to keep the entire team at full healthy playing so often. Rio, Vidic, Brown and Evra have all had injuries this year, and Ronaldo coming off surgery, and Rooney was hurt earlier in the year. Really have not been getting the expected contributions from Tevez and Berbatov this year.
I think United is going to get tripped up either in FA or CL matches coming down the stretch. The competition gets more heated. However, I do not think Arsenal has what it takes to get it done vs United and I'd much prefer be matched up against them, while watching Chelsea and Barca go at it. Everton has a shot in a one-game match vs ManU, however they are missing their most potent offensive playmaker, so they will really need to hope for a set piece or a United blunder at the back.
Liverpool not advancing may very well help their premiership title thoughts. United limping badly coming down the stretch (destroyed by Liverpool, loss to Fullham and only late winners vs Villa and Sunderland), the only thing going in United favor is the weak competition they face on out - Pompey, Spurs, @ Boro, City, @ Wigan, Arsenal, @ Hull - only game against a top 8 side is at home vs Arsenal.
Here's to a great April/May....June?
Desert_Power
Footballguy
That goal was incredible. Probably the best I have ever seen.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
The fact that he hits the side netting from there is amazing. The ball is perfectly struck, and placed with perfection. It's a rocket shot, and I agree that the goalie simply didn't know what speed it was going to come at. I think he could have made the save if he had been anticipating a shot, but he appears to only briefly hop and then leap for the ball. I think that shot is savable, but not if the goalie isn't right on his toes anticipating a shot.A beautiful goal indeed.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I think this is pretty harsh Z. A goalie's instict in my opinion in this setting is to shade toward his near post. There can't be an ounce of blame on the GK on a rocket into the far post side-netting from that distance.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I don't want to blame the goalie here. It wasn't a shot that I expect a goalie to save. It was brilliant. No doubt about it. One of the best shots I've ever seen not from a free kick.
Yes, he should have been shading over to the near post (but he really wasn't very much if you look), but I still think he reaction wasn't the best in this instance. I've seen goalies make much quicker reactions to get a hand on a shot from shorter range. I think there are situations where a goalie could have gotten a hand on that shot. The Porto keeper wasn't even close. I think that he was sort of stunned that Ronaldo was going to attempt a shot like that from that distance. I think he was expecting more dribble or maybe a cross to a header.
Yes, he should have been shading over to the near post (but he really wasn't very much if you look), but I still think he reaction wasn't the best in this instance. I've seen goalies make much quicker reactions to get a hand on a shot from shorter range. I think there are situations where a goalie could have gotten a hand on that shot. The Porto keeper wasn't even close. I think that he was sort of stunned that Ronaldo was going to attempt a shot like that from that distance. I think he was expecting more dribble or maybe a cross to a header.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
It may very well be the best shot I've ever seen, but I think Maradona's second goal against England in the '86 World Cup is the best goal I've ever seen. And Ronaldo's goal for Barcelona against Compostela is right up there too.Desert_Power said:
El Floppo
Footballguy
Absolutely. In recent memory, that goal Argentina scored in the last WC, first round, where the ball went through pretty much the entire team before scoring.And no way the gk saves that- no fault of his at all there; the ball is screaming in and curving away from him. He looked to be positioned perfectly- shaded a little to the near post (cardinal rule to never get beat near) and off his line to cover the angle. What did the announcer say later... a "howitzer" by Ronaldo. That's about it.
eta: For long range shots, does anybody remember Franz Zimmerman from Soccer Made in Germany days? Don't remember the team, but that guy took at least one shot a game from 40 yards +... and scored on them (fantastically) every now and then.
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