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Some more good news about Devann Yao:

American Yao put in a lively, battling and impressive shift, first on the left of midfield and later up front. It was easy to see why manager Roy Keane, who watched today’s game, offered the 19-year-old his contract until the end of the season.

From:

http://www.twtd.co.uk/news.php?storyid=160..._reserves_derby

Nothing too awesome, but it would be cool if this kid broke out with my Ipswich squad and eventually USMNT.

There are rumours he may be on the bench when ITFC play Peterborough. I don't think it will happen, but that would be cool.
Might've wanted to mention that Yao played in a Reserves match. But cool to hear.
 
Hold Everton HOLD!United held on for the draw after going a man down before half, so that was nice. Now if Everton can just come through, we'll have a new leader of the table!
no so fast - Chelsea in a bit of a rut now but still haning on.April 10 at Old Trafford shaping up to be a good one.
 
Giggs broke his arm. Out ~4 weeks.

with Nani's 3 game suspension, the united MF is gonna pretty thin for the cup final.

 
Hold Everton HOLD!United held on for the draw after going a man down before half, so that was nice. Now if Everton can just come through, we'll have a new leader of the table!
no so fast - Chelsea in a bit of a rut now but still haning on.April 10 at Old Trafford shaping up to be a good one.
yeah, got a little ahead of myself there....Giggs out for a month now too. Favorable schedule for United though, with only a match left vs Liverpool and Chelsea and both at home, from the big four.Road games remaining for United - @Everton, @Wolves, @Bolton, @Blackburn, @Man City & @Sunderland.Chelsea still needs to travel to United, Liverpool and SpursCL matches starting up soon too, going to be a fun spring.
 
This may just simply be a negotiating tactic but the Everton coach says he will not be able to sign Landon beyond the loan.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...on-Donovan.html
I am not sure how it works...He has been pretty good, would another team not swoop in if they really couldnt sign him?
Not a lot of teams can afford to buy right now. We can assume that MLS will demand over $10 million for Landon. That's about 6 million pounds or so, which seems pretty low, but those deals aren't happening right now. The teams that could afford him probably couldn't offer him an assured place. Teams like Everton, Fulham, and Birmingham -- topish half of the table teams where I think he'd fit in, aren't necessarily buying this year.

 
The rumor machine for Red Bull is out of control and lord knows if any of it is even true.Henry, Raul and Maldini have all been floated but the Maldini rumor was shot down by both sides I believe.
I honestly don't get/like the Raul rumor. As the consumate poacher, he's not a player to help build a team around, IMO. With a highly capable Angel already up front, my MetReds need somebody to help anchor the MF or back 4.
 
This may just simply be a negotiating tactic but the Everton coach says he will not be able to sign Landon beyond the loan.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...on-Donovan.html
I am not sure how it works...He has been pretty good, would another team not swoop in if they really couldnt sign him?
Not a lot of teams can afford to buy right now. We can assume that MLS will demand over $10 million for Landon. That's about 6 million pounds or so, which seems pretty low, but those deals aren't happening right now. The teams that could afford him probably couldn't offer him an assured place. Teams like Everton, Fulham, and Birmingham -- topish half of the table teams where I think he'd fit in, aren't necessarily buying this year.
Birmingham was allegedly trying to throw some money around the January transfer window for the likes of Ryan Babel. The price mentioned was something around 9 million pounds. I think if they wanted Donovan they could meet the price.
 
This may just simply be a negotiating tactic but the Everton coach says he will not be able to sign Landon beyond the loan.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...on-Donovan.html
I am not sure how it works...He has been pretty good, would another team not swoop in if they really couldnt sign him?
Not a lot of teams can afford to buy right now. We can assume that MLS will demand over $10 million for Landon. That's about 6 million pounds or so, which seems pretty low, but those deals aren't happening right now. The teams that could afford him probably couldn't offer him an assured place. Teams like Everton, Fulham, and Birmingham -- topish half of the table teams where I think he'd fit in, aren't necessarily buying this year.
Birmingham was allegedly trying to throw some money around the January transfer window for the likes of Ryan Babel. The price mentioned was something around 9 million pounds. I think if they wanted Donovan they could meet the price.
It'll be interesting to see if LD swings something to stay over there. Also interesting to see if all the Beckham poo-poohers complain about LD if he stays.I'm suprising myself by thinking/saying this- but Donovan >>>> Babel.

BTW- a great day in teh EPL for US keepers- AV with a midling upset/draw, Everton with a huge win, and Wolves with a ginormous win.

 
Ashley Cole out 3 months with a broken ankle, per ESPN.Too bad- sounds like LD was carving him up yesterday.
:goodposting:
Cole sustained the injury after 57 minutes of Chelsea's 2-1 defeat at the hands of Everton on Wednesday night when he was involved in a challenge with Landon Donovan - who represents United States, England's first opponents in South Africa.
 
This may just simply be a negotiating tactic but the Everton coach says he will not be able to sign Landon beyond the loan.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...on-Donovan.html
I am not sure how it works...He has been pretty good, would another team not swoop in if they really couldnt sign him?
Not a lot of teams can afford to buy right now. We can assume that MLS will demand over $10 million for Landon. That's about 6 million pounds or so, which seems pretty low, but those deals aren't happening right now. The teams that could afford him probably couldn't offer him an assured place. Teams like Everton, Fulham, and Birmingham -- topish half of the table teams where I think he'd fit in, aren't necessarily buying this year.
Birmingham was allegedly trying to throw some money around the January transfer window for the likes of Ryan Babel. The price mentioned was something around 9 million pounds. I think if they wanted Donovan they could meet the price.
But they ended up bringing in some guys from Celtic, I thought. In any case, they are a good fit, IMO. Alot of the other top half teams, like Villa, Spurs, and Man City don't really have a spot for Landon.There's some talk that Steven Pinnear wants to try the Spanish league after the World Cup. I could see Everton getting back in the game for Landon in July, but I do think it's unlikely that anything is resolved in March. It would be nice to see a bit of Landon on the left for Everton, considering that Leighton Baines is a much, much better fullback than the reanimated Zombie corpse of Gary Neville. I suppose Bilyadetinov (or however the hell you spell his name) would still be preferred on the left.

 
Everton could most probably afford Donovan. Fact is, they have a lot of players out, and as these guys get healthier, Donovan would get phased out of play.

If he were 22-23, I think they may have more strongly considered it, but a loan was about all Everton needed. They have to watch their finances a lot closer than the bigger money teams, and usually aim for younger players that they can develop and, well, sell off at a profit.

 
Ashley Cole out 3 months with a broken ankle, per ESPN.Too bad- sounds like LD was carving him up yesterday.
:goodposting:
Cole sustained the injury after 57 minutes of Chelsea's 2-1 defeat at the hands of Everton on Wednesday night when he was involved in a challenge with Landon Donovan - who represents United States, England's first opponents in South Africa.
LD continues to deliver huge value for both his club and national sides.So Chelsea plays this weekend without Cole or Terry, who is off somewhere in the middle east trying to repair his marriage, in addition to Essien and Bosingwa already being out.Meanwhile, what are the odds that Wayne Bridge ends up in John Terry's backline for England if Cole can't go?
 
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Everton could most probably afford Donovan. Fact is, they have a lot of players out, and as these guys get healthier, Donovan would get phased out of play. If he were 22-23, I think they may have more strongly considered it, but a loan was about all Everton needed. They have to watch their finances a lot closer than the bigger money teams, and usually aim for younger players that they can develop and, well, sell off at a profit.
Regardless, he is showing he can perform on that stage.
 
So Chelsea plays this weekend without Cole or Terry, who is off somewhere in the middle east trying to repair his marriage, in addition to Essien and Bosingwa already being out.
Nothing like a trip to Dubai to make a woman feel valued and respected.
I thought it was one of the great little sidenotes of the Terry affair. You know you've got a class A premiership WAG on your hands when you read that she was so pissed off she packed up the kids and flew to Dubai.
 
But they ended up bringing in some guys from Celtic, I thought. In any case, they are a good fit, IMO. Alot of the other top half teams, like Villa, Spurs, and Man City don't really have a spot for Landon.

There's some talk that Steven Pinnear wants to try the Spanish league after the World Cup. I could see Everton getting back in the game for Landon in July, but I do think it's unlikely that anything is resolved in March. It would be nice to see a bit of Landon on the left for Everton, considering that Leighton Baines is a much, much better fullback than the reanimated Zombie corpse of Gary Neville. I suppose Bilyadetinov (or however the hell you spell his name) would still be preferred on the left.
I didn't follow allong that closely :lmao: But it seemed like they had a decent bit of money to burn. At one time I think they were talking about spend close to 20 million pounds in the transfer window on two or three players. I agree with everyone here though in that I hope he figures out a way to get a spot in England where you can continue to play.

 
But they ended up bringing in some guys from Celtic, I thought. In any case, they are a good fit, IMO. Alot of the other top half teams, like Villa, Spurs, and Man City don't really have a spot for Landon.

There's some talk that Steven Pinnear wants to try the Spanish league after the World Cup. I could see Everton getting back in the game for Landon in July, but I do think it's unlikely that anything is resolved in March. It would be nice to see a bit of Landon on the left for Everton, considering that Leighton Baines is a much, much better fullback than the reanimated Zombie corpse of Gary Neville. I suppose Bilyadetinov (or however the hell you spell his name) would still be preferred on the left.
I didn't follow allong that closely ;) But it seemed like they had a decent bit of money to burn. At one time I think they were talking about spend close to 20 million pounds in the transfer window on two or three players. I agree with everyone here though in that I hope he figures out a way to get a spot in England where you can continue to play.
What I don't like about the situation is that Donavon resigned with the Galaxy to begin with. He should have just stayed a FA. I don't know if he just wanted to make sure the Galaxy got paid, or if he didn't think he'd impress enough to sign elsewhere for better money. I don't like either theory so I would love to believe another.
 
DFB Pokal quarterfinals this week:

Werder Bremen 2-1 Hoffenheim

Bayern München 6-2 Greuther Fürth

Augsburg 1-0 1. FC Köln

Schalke 04 1-0 Osnabrück

This sets up semifinals of Werder v Augsburg and Bayern v Schalke on March 23rd.

Week 22 of the Bundesliga this weekend has the top of the table:

Code:
Bayern Leverkusen 12-9-0 45 +29Bayern München	13-6-2 45 +27Schalke 04		12-6-3 42 +16
 
I know you guys care a whole lot, but my Atleti are in the finals of the Copa del Rey for the 18th time (they haven't been in 10 years). They'll be going for their 10th Cup against Sevilla on May 26th. This game against Racing was one they almost gave away... as an article I read said it best, "no one complicates life like Atlético." They are such drama queens...

Anyway, it should be a really good match and both teams are trying to get guarantees from FIFA that their international players will be there for the game and not playing for their national sides in tune-ups for the WC. The game location is not yet determined, but if it's in Madrid, my prediction is that the rojiblanco faithful will be going to Neptune that night.

 
does Bradley re-think his lineup for the WC now that Cole might be out?

With LD playing on the the right for Everton, it might be wise to keep him out there to attack England's weakened left flank. Just kinda thinking out loud. I dont know much about Bridge. Is he strong enough to hold up that side or is it now a weakness for the Brits?

 
I know you guys care a whole lot, but my Atleti are in the finals of the Copa del Rey for the 18th time (they haven't been in 10 years). They'll be going for their 10th Cup against Sevilla on May 26th. This game against Racing was one they almost gave away... as an article I read said it best, "no one complicates life like Atlético." They are such drama queens...

Anyway, it should be a really good match and both teams are trying to get guarantees from FIFA that their international players will be there for the game and not playing for their national sides in tune-ups for the WC. The game location is not yet determined, but if it's in Madrid, my prediction is that the rojiblanco faithful will be going to Neptune that night.
I think Sevilla takes it, they have been playing like they want the cup bad. Anxious about this weekend's fixture, Barcelona does not have any defenders healthy right now.

 
Togo Appeals Ban

Good for them. If the ban holds up it will be one of the biggest disgraces in sporting ever.
I think there is some amount of misunderstanding fostered by poor reporting like that shown in this article, which opens with the false statement, "Togo will appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) after they were banned from the next two African Nations Cups having pulled out of the tournament in Angola."The basis for the ban is not because Togo pulled out of the tournament, but because the decision to withdraw was made by the Togolese government, not by its football association. The team players reportedly wanted to continue with the tournament, but were overruled by the national government. FIFA, UEFA, CAF and I think most if not all football associations have strict rules regarding government interference in the association's affairs. Therefore, while the ban is shocking and seems grossly insensitive on one level, it is grounded in a principle that is a good one in my opinion. I am not familiar with African football history, but read in one opinion piece that there is a history there of inappropriate government meddling in the affairs of the sport, so perhaps this is a good sign that the CAF is taking a hard-line position in this instance in the face of substantial public outcry against them.

 
does Bradley re-think his lineup for the WC now that Cole might be out?With LD playing on the the right for Everton, it might be wise to keep him out there to attack England's weakened left flank. Just kinda thinking out loud. I dont know much about Bridge. Is he strong enough to hold up that side or is it now a weakness for the Brits?
A lot might depend on DMB. If he comes back to some form, he could be used on the left and Landon on the right and push Dempsey up top.
 
does Bradley re-think his lineup for the WC now that Cole might be out?With LD playing on the the right for Everton, it might be wise to keep him out there to attack England's weakened left flank. Just kinda thinking out loud. I dont know much about Bridge. Is he strong enough to hold up that side or is it now a weakness for the Brits?
A lot might depend on DMB. If he comes back to some form, he could be used on the left and Landon on the right and push Dempsey up top.
is a healthy DMB really better than a healthy Holden? I'm not sure at this point. In fact, I kinda doubt it.Really wish that Jermaine Jones was going to be healthy. It just wasnt in the cards. I have very little faith in Ricardo Clarke or Feilhaber. Bradley will obviously be out there, but he has a tendency to disapear as well.
 
Togo Appeals Ban

Good for them. If the ban holds up it will be one of the biggest disgraces in sporting ever.
I think there is some amount of misunderstanding fostered by poor reporting like that shown in this article, which opens with the false statement, "Togo will appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) after they were banned from the next two African Nations Cups having pulled out of the tournament in Angola."The basis for the ban is not because Togo pulled out of the tournament, but because the decision to withdraw was made by the Togolese government, not by its football association. The team players reportedly wanted to continue with the tournament, but were overruled by the national government. FIFA, UEFA, CAF and I think most if not all football associations have strict rules regarding government interference in the association's affairs. Therefore, while the ban is shocking and seems grossly insensitive on one level, it is grounded in a principle that is a good one in my opinion. I am not familiar with African football history, but read in one opinion piece that there is a history there of inappropriate government meddling in the affairs of the sport, so perhaps this is a good sign that the CAF is taking a hard-line position in this instance in the face of substantial public outcry against them.
Interesting stuff. I didn't read anything about the team wanting to continue playing. I had read that ultimately the President called the team back. I still figured in this case that was completely justifiable. I can see where they would want to avoid government involvement on principle, but I personally feel that in this horrific case that there isn't any need to punish the team.

 
What I don't like about the situation is that Donavon resigned with the Galaxy to begin with. He should have just stayed a FA. I don't know if he just wanted to make sure the Galaxy got paid, or if he didn't think he'd impress enough to sign elsewhere for better money. I don't like either theory so I would love to believe another.
MLS had two option years on the contract. So he couldn't have gone at the end of the season anyway. If he didn't sign an extension, they wouldn't have let him go on loan this winter. He wanted to A)prove himself and B) stay sharp and in form leading up to the World Cup.It's not like he had much leverage. This way he got a raise and got to go on loan. MLS will have to decide how they want to value him in the summer. I'm on record in saying that MLS should worry about growing soccer in America first and growing MLS second. So I wouldn't hold out for too much money. But that's easy for me to say as a soccer fan who doesn't enjoy watching a lot of MLS.
 
TLEF316 said:
does Bradley re-think his lineup for the WC now that Cole might be out?With LD playing on the the right for Everton, it might be wise to keep him out there to attack England's weakened left flank. Just kinda thinking out loud. I dont know much about Bridge. Is he strong enough to hold up that side or is it now a weakness for the Brits?
I don't think Bridge is a lock, imo Baines is a better player.
 
CletiusMaximus said:
Togo Appeals Ban

Good for them. If the ban holds up it will be one of the biggest disgraces in sporting ever.
I think there is some amount of misunderstanding fostered by poor reporting like that shown in this article, which opens with the false statement, "Togo will appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) after they were banned from the next two African Nations Cups having pulled out of the tournament in Angola."The basis for the ban is not because Togo pulled out of the tournament, but because the decision to withdraw was made by the Togolese government, not by its football association. The team players reportedly wanted to continue with the tournament, but were overruled by the national government. FIFA, UEFA, CAF and I think most if not all football associations have strict rules regarding government interference in the association's affairs. Therefore, while the ban is shocking and seems grossly insensitive on one level, it is grounded in a principle that is a good one in my opinion. I am not familiar with African football history, but read in one opinion piece that there is a history there of inappropriate government meddling in the affairs of the sport, so perhaps this is a good sign that the CAF is taking a hard-line position in this instance in the face of substantial public outcry against them.
Seems to me this isn't really the type of "meddling" that needs to be addressed at the competitive level.
 
TLEF316 said:
does Bradley re-think his lineup for the WC now that Cole might be out?With LD playing on the the right for Everton, it might be wise to keep him out there to attack England's weakened left flank. Just kinda thinking out loud. I dont know much about Bridge. Is he strong enough to hold up that side or is it now a weakness for the Brits?
I don't think Bridge is a lock, imo Baines is a better player.
Bridge has generally been selected by Capello though. England might be weaker on the right anyway. Cole will be back (if unfit) before the World Cup presumably. Glen Johnson is also hurt and I'm not sure who the second choice on the right would be. Even healthy, Johnson is an excellent attacking fullback and an invitation for disaster at the back.
 
TLEF316 said:
andy_b said:
TLEF316 said:
does Bradley re-think his lineup for the WC now that Cole might be out?With LD playing on the the right for Everton, it might be wise to keep him out there to attack England's weakened left flank. Just kinda thinking out loud. I dont know much about Bridge. Is he strong enough to hold up that side or is it now a weakness for the Brits?
A lot might depend on DMB. If he comes back to some form, he could be used on the left and Landon on the right and push Dempsey up top.
is a healthy DMB really better than a healthy Holden? I'm not sure at this point. In fact, I kinda doubt it.
I was not aware that Holden could play on the left side. I don't think he plays there in MLS unless I am confusing him with someone else.
 
TLEF316 said:
andy_b said:
TLEF316 said:
does Bradley re-think his lineup for the WC now that Cole might be out?With LD playing on the the right for Everton, it might be wise to keep him out there to attack England's weakened left flank. Just kinda thinking out loud. I dont know much about Bridge. Is he strong enough to hold up that side or is it now a weakness for the Brits?
A lot might depend on DMB. If he comes back to some form, he could be used on the left and Landon on the right and push Dempsey up top.
is a healthy DMB really better than a healthy Holden? I'm not sure at this point. In fact, I kinda doubt it.
I was not aware that Holden could play on the left side. I don't think he plays there in MLS unless I am confusing him with someone else.
I think the implication would be that Holden would play on the right, Landycakes on the left, with Dempsey pushed up.
 

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