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Steve Tasker
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Davies buries the PK, and Stuart Holden is right next to him to celebrate. 3-0 Bolton 
Steve Tasker
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Anyone else think Bale has lost some weight in the last 2-3 years? I always remembered him being a bigger guy, but watching him running with the ball here, it really hit me how skinny he looks. Maybe that's what he needed to become the force the he has become now.
Alan Hutton with a nice goal. 3-1
Oh, and an extremely rare David Bentley sighting....only thing rarer is a David Nugent sighting....
Alan Hutton with a nice goal. 3-1
Oh, and an extremely rare David Bentley sighting....only thing rarer is a David Nugent sighting....
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Darke (ETA - not Tyler): "Holden hasn't stopped working. It's an unfashionable job he does, in the Bolton midfield, but he's been working the whole time and has given them a secure foothold in this match."
Ekoku: "Unsung hero, really"
Ekoku: "Unsung hero, really"
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Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Really an exciting second half....wonderful goal from Pavlyuchenko. Kevin Davies continued his brilliant game with a great headed assist to Martin Petrov, who put the game away. to Owen Coyle for subbing out Davies in the 96th so he could get a standing ovation from the home crowd after his 2 goal/1 assist performance. Gotta think that he'll be getting another shot for England.
to Owen Coyle for subbing out Davies in the 96th so he could get a standing ovation from the home crowd after his 2 goal/1 assist performance. Gotta think that he'll be getting another shot for England.
scoobygang
Footballguy
Espn hires their own team and puts them at the stadium. They don't just play a Sky Sports feed.
TLEF316
Footballguy
what a finish at Old trafford. Park with a brilliant goal in the 93rd minute to win it 2-1.
United blew another 2nd half lead but stole it back at the end. Park with both goals.
We actually had an Owen Hargreaves sighting. (he started). Lasted all of 3 minutes before tweaking his hamstring and hobbling to the locker room. See you in 2 years Owen.....
United blew another 2nd half lead but stole it back at the end. Park with both goals.
We actually had an Owen Hargreaves sighting. (he started). Lasted all of 3 minutes before tweaking his hamstring and hobbling to the locker room. See you in 2 years Owen.....
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Park is still so clutch.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Eephus>your boys vs. Ebbsfleet tonight at 6 PM on FSC.
Two interesting stories....Wimbledon, the split-off of the old club that retained the fan support vs. Ebbsfleet, a team owned by a bunch of people on a website (MyFootballClub) who vote on the transfers, lineups, manager moves, etc.
Two interesting stories....Wimbledon, the split-off of the old club that retained the fan support vs. Ebbsfleet, a team owned by a bunch of people on a website (MyFootballClub) who vote on the transfers, lineups, manager moves, etc.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Lampard still out, and Essien and Molouda both doubtful for Chelsea's trip to Anfield tomorrow.
I'd prefer Essien and Malouda. Silver lining if Kalou plays - the Chelsea fans will be singing my favorite Chelsea-Liverpool song at Anfield, which harkens back to the John Arne Riise injury time own goal in the 08 Champion's League game at Anfield.He comes from the Ivory Coast! Kalou! Kalou!He don't do coke like Adrian Mutu! Mutu!He crossed the ball in from the left, it landed right on Riise's head!That's why we love Saloman Kalou!
SofaKings
Footballguy
Thanks Scoob. Sounded like one of the guys from the WC.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Drogba not starting today and Essien can't even make the bench. Kuyt and Torres always kill Chelsea - would love a draw today at Anfield.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Dream start for Liverpool with a class off-balance finish from Torres.
Torres and Kuyt each looking extremely dangerous in the first 20.
Torres and Kuyt each looking extremely dangerous in the first 20.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
And apparently Arsenal were terrible in a 1-0 loss home to Newcastle today. Anyone see it? How ugly?
Can't be dropping these points if they have any hope of staying top 4.
Can't be dropping these points if they have any hope of staying top 4.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Torres!
The new owner's lady isn't too bad either.
The Gator
Footballguy
Set up by one of my favorite players....internationally and in league....Meireles. He's been keeping Cole at bay and having some niiice first touches.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
what a save from Reina!
derek245583
Footballguy
MOTHER OF GOD!!!
Where did he come from?The battle between Kuyt and Cole was great.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
The gods are smiling on Reina today.
lot of talk of Chelsea running away with this thing.
Just looked at the standings, and see ManU sitting just 2 points behind, with a nice 3 point cushion over Arsenal and $ity.
It seems the rumors of United's demise have been largely exaggerated. Think I heard this is their longest unbeaten streak in a few decades.
Nice to see Newcastle come up large.
Can't wait to the midweek away game. Let's make it 12 in a row to start off the year without a loss
18 matches in a row without defeat in all competitions 
(19 if you want to include the MLS all star exhibition)
Just looked at the standings, and see ManU sitting just 2 points behind, with a nice 3 point cushion over Arsenal and $ity.
It seems the rumors of United's demise have been largely exaggerated. Think I heard this is their longest unbeaten streak in a few decades.
Nice to see Newcastle come up large.
Can't wait to the midweek away game. Let's make it 12 in a row to start off the year without a loss
18 matches in a row without defeat in all competitions (19 if you want to include the MLS all star exhibition)
Eephus
Footballguy
derek245583
Footballguy
Thank God Mario got a red and is out....Tevez, Kolorav, Boetang are all fit and it should be a good game when City wins 2-1lot of talk of Chelsea running away with this thing. Just looked at the standings, and see ManU sitting just 2 points behind, with a nice 3 point cushion over Arsenal and $ity.It seems the rumors of United's demise have been largely exaggerated. Think I heard this is their longest unbeaten streak in a few decades.Nice to see Newcastle come up large.Can't wait to the midweek away game. Let's make it 12 in a row to start off the year without a loss18 matches in a row without defeat in all competitions
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Why are they so upset? I'd think that they would want to play MK, no? Is this just because MK is a football league team and has better players?
El Floppo
Footballguy
Not sure if anybody caught this, but Mexico beat the US women for the first time ever in the Semis of regional WCQ, putting the US into a must win in the 3rd place game vs Costa Rica. IF they beat CR, they then go to a home and home, total-goals matchup against Italy with the winner heading to the WC. Have to think they'll still make it, but wow.
Btw- I was actually a fan of US Women's soccer back in the 'old' days, but I realized even then that what I liked watching was the relative purity of a very, very good team consistently playing against horrible teams. It was a way of getting to see a textbook example of how the game should be played on both sides of the ball. Even as recently as 10 years ago, there were only a few teams in the world that could actually play the game; the rest were like watching u10 kids running around.... literally- slow, weak, skill-less, tactic-less, point-less. So you had top talent against u10 kids. The wipeout factor let the US women play pretty entertaining soccer.
Now that more countries have advanced to a more equal footing with the bigger teams, the games have become almost unbearable to watch for me.
Btw- I was actually a fan of US Women's soccer back in the 'old' days, but I realized even then that what I liked watching was the relative purity of a very, very good team consistently playing against horrible teams. It was a way of getting to see a textbook example of how the game should be played on both sides of the ball. Even as recently as 10 years ago, there were only a few teams in the world that could actually play the game; the rest were like watching u10 kids running around.... literally- slow, weak, skill-less, tactic-less, point-less. So you had top talent against u10 kids. The wipeout factor let the US women play pretty entertaining soccer.
Now that more countries have advanced to a more equal footing with the bigger teams, the games have become almost unbearable to watch for me.
El Floppo
Footballguy
btw- I watched the 2nd half of that game... reminded me of watching 2 decent Div1 US college teams play.eta- Wimbledon obviously the better team there, just lacking class on the final touch.Steve Tasker said:Why are they so upset? I'd think that they would want to play MK, no? Is this just because MK is a football league team and has better players?Eephus said:
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El Floppo
Footballguy
Anybody catch Huddleston's off the ball stomp vs Bolton? Gotta figure he'll see some punishment from the home office.
Crazy game, that- I guess Spurs just play to the level of their opposition, but it's still boggling to watch them play so well and then so poorly. Full credit to Bolton for playing well and getting the 3 points they deserved. Worst game out of Holden- at least those that I've seen.... but to his credit, even though his touch just wasn't on, he worked his ### off (IIRC, tackling Galas as the last man on a break to start the play that got Bolton their 4th goal).
Crazy game, that- I guess Spurs just play to the level of their opposition, but it's still boggling to watch them play so well and then so poorly. Full credit to Bolton for playing well and getting the 3 points they deserved. Worst game out of Holden- at least those that I've seen.... but to his credit, even though his touch just wasn't on, he worked his ### off (IIRC, tackling Galas as the last man on a break to start the play that got Bolton their 4th goal).
bentley
Footballguy
Whiston, England.Something something something something Torres TorresSomething something something somethingTorres TorresWe brought the lad from lovely Spain something something something somethingFERNANDO TORRES LIVERPOOL'S NUMBER 9.
El Floppo
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
brewer
Footballguy
It's still on my DVR but I saw the score on ESPN bottom line(damn them for pretending to care about soccer now) and I'm not sure if I want to put myself through it.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Saw the ESPN Deportes highlights of the game (minimal... not sure if that's due to the game, or time constraints on the segment)- looked like Arsenal got one shot worthy of highlights. Otherwise, I'm guessing they passed the ball around a lot around the top of the 18.
brewer
Footballguy
I would imagine that this is a very good guess.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
My boys lost to hated Real this last weekend. I didn't even get to watch thur game as I was visiting some in-laws in connecticut. Did anyone catch it?
El Floppo
Footballguy
So the MLS final 4 are set: LA Gals v Dallas, Quakes vs Colorado.
All these years later, and I'm still unsure if this is still a home and home, total goals, or just a one off at this point. Have to figure the Gals are favored in a big way with RSL out, but I'd love to see my old home team, San Jose, somehow pull through.
All these years later, and I'm still unsure if this is still a home and home, total goals, or just a one off at this point. Have to figure the Gals are favored in a big way with RSL out, but I'd love to see my old home team, San Jose, somehow pull through.
prefontaine
Footballguy
So Andy Najar declined a call up from Honduras....
Alright, smartass. Is he a Liverpool academy kid or from another club?
Eephus
Footballguy
it was for a friendly so it wouldn't have been tying anyway, but what the hey
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
don't feel badly about not knowing the format, they changed it at least 5 times over the years.This year it is a single game. Winner moves on.Seeing Bobby Convey rise like a phoenix makes watching San Jose much more interesting. Always liked him as a player and is amazing that he was very close to retirement after injuries nearly destroyed his career.Seems like he has been around for ever but because he was the youngest player on the Donovan, DMB, Gooch U17 squad, he is still only 27 years old. Might be time to again break out the "Can Convey solve our eternal left back problem" game again.El Floppo said:
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NewlyRetired
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he also was ULTRA careful not to burn any bridges. I think he wants to represent the US, but is not going to wait for ever for citizenship so he is going to leave both doors open as long as possible.If he wants to represent Honduras, he will have every opportunity to do so in the WCQiers for 2014.it was for a friendly so it wouldn't have been tying anyway, but what the hey
prefontaine
Footballguy
Yeah, I think so too. Can you even imagine turning down a callup for your NT at 17? I would guess he wants to play in the WC and is trying to keep his options open. If that is the case, then if Honduras looks good and seems poised to qualify, we may not get him. But if they stumble, I bet he goes full force trying to get his citizenship pronto. No reason to force that decision 4 years out (yes, he could apply with FIFA to change but that seems like something you'd want to avoid if possible). He can't even apply for US citizenship for a couple of years I've heard.he also was ULTRA careful not to burn any bridges. I think he wants to represent the US, but is not going to wait for ever for citizenship so he is going to leave both doors open as long as possible.If he wants to represent Honduras, he will have every opportunity to do so in the WCQiers for 2014.it was for a friendly so it wouldn't have been tying anyway, but what the hey
The Gator
Footballguy
from liverpoolfc.tvEngland U21 defender Martin Kelly is one of the most talented youngsters on Liverpool's books.The Academy graduate, who missed almost two years of his development due to a back problem, can play across the back four."The injury has made me more determined," said Kelly. "Having those two years out meant I missed so much from my development. I was lucky to get a chance to come to Melwood."Kelly broke into the reserves during 2007-08, helping them win the league.His senior debut then came as a substitute in a Champions League clash with PSV on December 9, 2008.Three months later the starlet was loaned to Huddersfield Town, where he featured seven times, scored a first professional goal against Walsall and earned high praise from assistant boss Terry McDermott.After returning to Melwood ahead of the 2009-10 season, Kelly was handed his first start for Liverpool in the Champions League group stage encounter with Lyon at Anfield on October 20 before injuries disrupted his season.He returned to fitness ahead of 2010-11 and found himself the subject of an England U21 call. Kelly rewarded gaffer Stuart Pearce with a headed goal on his debut against Uzbekistan.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The latest US U20 roster was released.
If form holds a handful of these players will be on the field for the senior squad come 2014.
The two players that have the highest potential from my readings are Alex Zahavi who appears to making the one time switch from Portugal to the US (he was born in LA), and Sebastian Lletget who plays for West Ham. Lletget is young for the U20's and will likely not make an impact on the senior side though until 2018 if he plays up to potential.
U.S. U-20 Roster:
GOALKEEPERS (2): Cody Cropper (Ipswich Town, England; Athens, Ga.), Eduardo Fernandez (Real Salt Lake AZ; Casa Grande, Ariz.)
DEFENDERS (7): Gale Agbossoumonde (Estoril, Portugal; Syracuse, N.Y.), Bryan De La Fuente (Chivas USA; Bell, Calif.), Greg Garza (Estoril, Portugal, Grapevine, Texas), Korey Veeder (Crystal Palace Baltimore; St. Petersburg, Fla.), Parker Walsh (Karlsruhe, Germany; Roanoke, Va.).
MIDFIELDERS (7): Sebastian Lletget (West Ham United, England; San Francisco, Calif.), Alex Molano (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia; Grapevine, Texas), Amobi Okugo (Philadelphia Union; Sacramento, Calif.), Moises Orozco (Tigres, Mexico; Oxnard, Calif.), Conor Shanosky (D.C. United, Sterling, Va.), Alex Zahavi (Maccabi Haifa, Israel; Lisbon, Portugal), Cesar Zamora (Chivas USA; Sylmar, Calif.)
FORWARDS (4): Juan Agudelo (New York Red Bulls; Barnegat, N.Y.), Tristan Bowen (Los Angeles Galaxy; Van Nuys, Calif.), Fuad Ibrahim (Toronto FC; Richfield, Minn.), Omar Salgado (Unattached; El Paso, Texas)
If form holds a handful of these players will be on the field for the senior squad come 2014.
The two players that have the highest potential from my readings are Alex Zahavi who appears to making the one time switch from Portugal to the US (he was born in LA), and Sebastian Lletget who plays for West Ham. Lletget is young for the U20's and will likely not make an impact on the senior side though until 2018 if he plays up to potential.
U.S. U-20 Roster:
GOALKEEPERS (2): Cody Cropper (Ipswich Town, England; Athens, Ga.), Eduardo Fernandez (Real Salt Lake AZ; Casa Grande, Ariz.)
DEFENDERS (7): Gale Agbossoumonde (Estoril, Portugal; Syracuse, N.Y.), Bryan De La Fuente (Chivas USA; Bell, Calif.), Greg Garza (Estoril, Portugal, Grapevine, Texas), Korey Veeder (Crystal Palace Baltimore; St. Petersburg, Fla.), Parker Walsh (Karlsruhe, Germany; Roanoke, Va.).
MIDFIELDERS (7): Sebastian Lletget (West Ham United, England; San Francisco, Calif.), Alex Molano (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia; Grapevine, Texas), Amobi Okugo (Philadelphia Union; Sacramento, Calif.), Moises Orozco (Tigres, Mexico; Oxnard, Calif.), Conor Shanosky (D.C. United, Sterling, Va.), Alex Zahavi (Maccabi Haifa, Israel; Lisbon, Portugal), Cesar Zamora (Chivas USA; Sylmar, Calif.)
FORWARDS (4): Juan Agudelo (New York Red Bulls; Barnegat, N.Y.), Tristan Bowen (Los Angeles Galaxy; Van Nuys, Calif.), Fuad Ibrahim (Toronto FC; Richfield, Minn.), Omar Salgado (Unattached; El Paso, Texas)
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