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Nice job by Adam Johnson to, ahem, draw the penalty early against Fulham. 1-0.
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CletiusMaximus
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Tim Howard was unlucky but still looked bad on the OG. LaDon played well i thought.
scoobygang
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Whatever happens the rest of the year with Arsenal, I can't remember being more excited about a young player than I am for The Ox.
NewlyRetired
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It always amazes me that 90+% of the fan base can agree on something this basic and the people who run the sport continue to leave their heads buried in the sand.It could be set up very easily as well and if you make the punishment harsh enough (on both club/country and player) it might have an affect going forward.
NewlyRetired
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Wegner said that they may look into trying to extend Henry's loan by two weeks. If not, I believe he has likely played his last match ever at home for Arsenal.
Beckham managed to pick up a red card while watching a youth soccer game that was not even his own kids
He was waiting for his 9 year old son's game which came next and was watching a 7 year old game and the ref gave a red card to some kid, and Becks told him off and the ref kicked Beckham off the field. lol
Beckham managed to pick up a red card while watching a youth soccer game that was not even his own kids
He was waiting for his 9 year old son's game which came next and was watching a 7 year old game and the ref gave a red card to some kid, and Becks told him off and the ref kicked Beckham off the field. lol
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Steve Tasker
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Even more than Walcott? I think Walcott was more exciting for me, but The Ox looks like he could be very special.
El Floppo
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He's kind of like a combined Rooney/Walcott. Totally agree- very exciting young talent.
El Floppo
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Nice.But a red card for a 7yo? wtf.Wegner said that they may look into trying to extend Henry's loan by two weeks. If not, I believe he has likely played his last match ever at home for Arsenal.Beckham managed to pick up a red card while watching a youth soccer game that was not even his own kids
Steve Tasker
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NewlyRetired
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that was exactly Beckham's point. I guess the 7 year old tripped someone in the penalty area and the ref gave him a red card and Becks saw it and started to scream at the ref that you can't give a red card to a 7 year old and then the ref gave Becks a red card. Must have been quite the site for the soccer momsNice.But a red card for a 7yo? wtf.Wegner said that they may look into trying to extend Henry's loan by two weeks. If not, I believe he has likely played his last match ever at home for Arsenal.
Beckham managed to pick up a red card while watching a youth soccer game that was not even his own kids
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El Floppo
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hello exactly.Not sure how it would be set up, but an after game review commitee that goes through all the games of the week and tags the players and teams who commit this crap. Johnson should be ashamed of himself for both of those displays... and he and his team should pay for it financially and with suspension since shame obviously doesn't work with these players any more.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Torres actually looks like a great player today, I think. And look at the score line...coincidence?
NewlyRetired
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The MLS loans seems to be working out ok for their EPL clubs. Henry and Keane have scored some goals (Keane had another today) and Landon has played pretty well for Everton, no goals but a handful of assists.
Steve Tasker
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3-0 now....
El Floppo
Footballguy
guy shouldn't be allowed to ref kids. idiotic. it's not the freaking WC. first red card I remember seeing growing up was in u12- my team-mate went ballistic- punching/screaming- on an opposing player for calling him the n-word. both got reds- other kid shoould have gotten suspended from the league, but no.that was exactly Becks his point. I guess the 7 year old tripped someone in the penalty area and the ref gave him a red card and Becks saw it and started to scream at the ref that you can't give a red card to a 7 year old and then the ref gave Becks a red card. Must have been quite the site for the soccer momsNice.But a red card for a 7yo? wtf.Wegner said that they may look into trying to extend Henry's loan by two weeks. If not, I believe he has likely played his last match ever at home for Arsenal.Beckham managed to pick up a red card while watching a youth soccer game that was not even his own kids
Steve Tasker
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Rumblings on Twitter of a wonderful goal from Sacha Kljestan this morning, but I haven't seen a video. Anyone see it? May have been a free kick.
Steve Tasker
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United awarded a second PK and Rooney converts.....gonna be an interesting final 20.
I don't know what you were watching.
ffldrew
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Wait for the ManU plus 6 of extra timeHoward Webb authoring a fine comeback here.
Steve Tasker
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Where was the marking? Incredible.
Steve Tasker
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Gary Cahill in no man's land....not exactly the best way to endear yourself to the new fans....Luiz was :whoosh: as well
onionsack
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Neutral observer...I hope they both lose. But Howard's been terrible all game. He's got them all flopping like salmon now.Wow, Chicharito!I notice a lot ofin here over some perfectly acceptable calls.
jonessed
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The first penalty was deserved, the second was crap.Terrible defending, but it made for a fantastic game. What a game to televise nationally.Wow, Chicharito!I notice a lot of
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I don't think you can call the second crap. Ivanovic's leg was outstretched. While his foot was planted, Welbeck did trip over it. It certainly wasn't a dive.The first penalty was deserved, the second was crap.Terrible defending, but it made for a fantastic game. What a game to televise nationally.Wow, Chicharito!I notice a lot of
The Gator
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Didn't realize how awesome that save was until the view from inside the goal.
jonessed
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Welbeck kicked Ivanovic, not the other way around.You can make a legitimate argument for another penalty earlier in the game against Welbeck, but the last one was a bad call.I don't think you can call the second crap. Ivanovic's leg was outstretched. While his foot was planted, Welbeck did trip over it. It certainly wasn't a dive.The first penalty was deserved, the second was crap.Terrible defending, but it made for a fantastic game. What a game to televise nationally.Wow, Chicharito!I notice a lot of
Hate to disagree with you, but it was a dive. It was a cheap call. Was the leg stretched out sure, but it was one that Welbeck could of avoided, and with his oscar award dive he got the call.I don't think you can call the second crap. Ivanovic's leg was outstretched. While his foot was planted, Welbeck did trip over it. It certainly wasn't a dive.The first penalty was deserved, the second was crap.Terrible defending, but it made for a fantastic game. What a game to televise nationally.Wow, Chicharito!I notice a lot of
jonessed
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It was pretty damn amazing. Certainly one of the best saves of the year.He kind of reminds me of Gomes. Incredible talent, but simply not consistent enough to be reliable day in and day out.Didn't realize how awesome that save was until the view from inside the goal.
Clearly, you don't know what a dive is.Hate to disagree with you, but it was a dive. It was a cheap call. Was the leg stretched out sure, but it was one that Welbeck could of avoided, and with his oscar award dive he got the call.I don't think you can call the second crap. Ivanovic's leg was outstretched. While his foot was planted, Welbeck did trip over it. It certainly wasn't a dive.The first penalty was deserved, the second was crap.Terrible defending, but it made for a fantastic game. What a game to televise nationally.Wow, Chicharito!I notice a lot of
jonessed
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Welbeck doesn't have to avoid it to get the penalty. If Ivanovic hangs his leg out in front of Welbeck he is entitled to trip over it. The problem was Welbeck actively dragged his off leg back to snag Ivanovic. Ivanovic's leg really wasn't in his path to the ball.Anyway, we are overanalyzing it now. It wasn't a penalty, but he probably deserved one earlier so I guess it evens out.Hate to disagree with you, but it was a dive. It was a cheap call. Was the leg stretched out sure, but it was one that Welbeck could of avoided, and with his oscar award dive he got the call.I don't think you can call the second crap. Ivanovic's leg was outstretched. While his foot was planted, Welbeck did trip over it. It certainly wasn't a dive.The first penalty was deserved, the second was crap.Terrible defending, but it made for a fantastic game. What a game to televise nationally.Wow, Chicharito!I notice a lot of
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Guess we will have to agree to disagree. Since we saw the same play, but see it different. I dont have a horse in the race, just calling as I see it. Just as you areClearly, you don't know what a dive is.Hate to disagree with you, but it was a dive. It was a cheap call. Was the leg stretched out sure, but it was one that Welbeck could of avoided, and with his oscar award dive he got the call.I don't think you can call the second crap. Ivanovic's leg was outstretched. While his foot was planted, Welbeck did trip over it. It certainly wasn't a dive.The first penalty was deserved, the second was crap.Terrible defending, but it made for a fantastic game. What a game to televise nationally.Wow, Chicharito!I notice a lot of
El Floppo
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Welbeck doesn't have to avoid it to get the penalty. If Ivanovic hangs his leg out in front of Welbeck he is entitled to trip over it. The problem was Welbeck actively dragged his off leg back to snag Ivanovic. Ivanovic's leg really wasn't in his path to the ball.Anyway, we are overanalyzing it now. It wasn't a penalty, but he probably deserved one earlier so I guess it evens out.Hate to disagree with you, but it was a dive. It was a cheap call. Was the leg stretched out sure, but it was one that Welbeck could of avoided, and with his oscar award dive he got the call.I don't think you can call the second crap. Ivanovic's leg was outstretched. While his foot was planted, Welbeck did trip over it. It certainly wasn't a dive.The first penalty was deserved, the second was crap.Terrible defending, but it made for a fantastic game. What a game to televise nationally.Wow, Chicharito!I notice a lot of
Agree 100% with everything Jones has said about this game and that play.
El Floppo
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What I've seen of him so far reminds me of a Man United Howard more than Gomes. Gomes makes so many inexplicable plays that are pure GK/psychotic mind-farts- but yeah, he can make some amazing reaction saves. Howard also made the great reaction saves getting down low and up into the corners sooo fast- but he was just terrible at those lofted crosses, particularly just off the six. I guess more of a positioning/experience thing, as Howard has gotten much better dealing with those type of crosses over time and with experience. From what I recall, De Gea's made a mess of crosses, but likewise is a great shot-blocker. Gomes just made a mess of everything.It was pretty damn amazing. Certainly one of the best saves of the year.He kind of reminds me of Gomes. Incredible talent, but simply not consistent enough to be reliable day in and day out.Didn't realize how awesome that save was until the view from inside the goal.
PIK95
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I am one of the biggest footy fans on the board but can never enter this thread because of all yje spoilers on thr games. I DVR and watch every weekend match but cant usually get to them until a day later because I coach so much. I think it's too much to ask for everyone to spoiler tag match talk so I'm thinking of starting a non match talk footy thread because I'm a jealous hater and I need a fix. Thoughts? Liverpool-Spurs today on ESPN 2 should be a lot of fun today.
CletiusMaximus
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I was happy to see Romeu coming on @ 3-2, assuming Malouda's day was thankfully over. Was shocked and angry to see Sturridge coming off instead. I have the benefit of hindsight of course, but it seemed very stupid at the time to play for a 3-2 at that point in the game, with about 20 min to go and ManU with all the momentum.
Lots of thoughts about this game but I am still shocked and angry. No complaints about Webb though.
Lots of thoughts about this game but I am still shocked and angry. No complaints about Webb though.
PIK95
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Donovan has been DOMINANT for Everton. What's a Toffee anyway?
Senor Schmutzig
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Toffee is a confection made by caramelizing sugar or molasses (creating inverted sugar) along with butter, and occasionally flour. My favorite is Thornton's.
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jonessed
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De Gea also struggles with long shots and any kind of set piece where he has to deal with opposition in close proximity. Essentially, anything that isn't pure reaction. There has to be a mental component to that I would think.I see what you are saying with regard to Howard, but I think De Gea's problems are a lot more extensive than Howard's ever were.What I've seen of him so far reminds me of a Man United Howard more than Gomes. Gomes makes so many inexplicable plays that are pure GK/psychotic mind-farts- but yeah, he can make some amazing reaction saves. Howard also made the great reaction saves getting down low and up into the corners sooo fast- but he was just terrible at those lofted crosses, particularly just off the six. I guess more of a positioning/experience thing, as Howard has gotten much better dealing with those type of crosses over time and with experience. From what I recall, De Gea's made a mess of crosses, but likewise is a great shot-blocker. Gomes just made a mess of everything.It was pretty damn amazing. Certainly one of the best saves of the year.He kind of reminds me of Gomes. Incredible talent, but simply not consistent enough to be reliable day in and day out.Didn't realize how awesome that save was until the view from inside the goal.
Sebowski
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I think its a bad idea to splinter the thread. I dvr weekend matches too (when I remember). Just avoid the thread and then play catch-up. Some of my favorite posts are when people have been away for a while then they bump an old discussion. It can give a different perspective.'PIK95 said:
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