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[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I can imagine Sir Alex calling Mancini now. "Enjoy playing Real! Help me out, where is Cluj again?"

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

The English, Spanish, German and Dutch current champions all in one group. Holy hell!

Not to mention the Danish, Ukrianian and Italian champions together with the European Champions!

I'm pretty sure the goaltender for Wembley FC on that reality show on FSC is the Danish champion.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

So awesome.

Cristiano Ronaldo Is Not Impressed

 

[NewlyRetired]

Trivia Time:

Last night Dwayne De Rosario become the 7th MLS player to score 100 league goals in regular season play.

Name the other 6.

(5 names are pretty easy, one is not.)

 

[Mjolnirs]

So awesome.

Cristiano Ronaldo Is Not Impressed

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Trivia Time:

Last night Dwayne De Rosario become the 7th MLS player to score 100 league goals in regular season play.

Name the other 6.

(5 names are pretty easy, one is not.)

Moreno, Kreis, Cameron Cunningham, Twellman, Donovan.Razov, maybe?

EDIT: I always confurse Cameron with Cunningham.

 

[El Floppo]

Trivia Time:

Last night Dwayne De Rosario become the 7th MLS player to score 100 league goals in regular season play.

Name the other 6.

(5 names are pretty easy, one is not.)

2 names are easy...LD

Moreno

Diaz Arce?

Ching?

McBride?

Cunningham?

Or other lifer honkeys like Lassiter, Razov and Twellman? Looking at that list... feeling pretty good about Diaz Arce, Ching and Cunningham.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Trivia Time:

Last night Dwayne De Rosario become the 7th MLS player to score 100 league goals in regular season play.

Name the other 6.

(5 names are pretty easy, one is not.)

Moreno, Kreis, Cameron, Twellman, Donovan.Razov, maybe?

well done! Except for Cameron (strange guess, he only scored 11 goals in his MLS career).

Razov was the tough one, you are missing the all time leading scorer. I am thinking you confused him and Cameron

1.

2. Moreno

3. Donovan

4. Razov

5. Kries

6. Twellman

 

[NewlyRetired]

Trivia Time:

Last night Dwayne De Rosario become the 7th MLS player to score 100 league goals in regular season play.

Name the other 6.

(5 names are pretty easy, one is not.)

2 names are easy...LD

Moreno

Diaz Arce?

Ching?

McBride?

Cunningham?

Or other lifer honkeys like Lassiter, Razov and Twellman? Looking at that list... feeling pretty good about Diaz Arce, Ching and Cunningham.

Cunningham is the missing piece from Scooby's list. He is the all time leading scorer1. Cunningham

2. Moreno

3. Donovan

4. Razov

5. Kries

6. Twellman

Others from your guesses

Lassiter 88

Diaz Arce 82

Ching 81

McBride 80

 

[Slapdash]

So awesome.

Cristiano Ronaldo Is Not Impressed

Injusticia!

 

[El Floppo]

Trivia Time:

Last night Dwayne De Rosario become the 7th MLS player to score 100 league goals in regular season play.

Name the other 6.

(5 names are pretty easy, one is not.)

2 names are easy...LD

Moreno

Diaz Arce?

Ching?

McBride?

Cunningham?

Or other lifer honkeys like Lassiter, Razov and Twellman? Looking at that list... feeling pretty good about Diaz Arce, Ching and Cunningham.

Cunningham is the missing piece from Scooby's list. He is the all time leading scorer1. Cunningham

2. Moreno

3. Donovan

4. Razov

5. Kries

6. Twellman

Kries Don't think of him as a goal scorer- incorrectly, obviously. Man- the best US player possibly ever to not feature with the Nats.

 

[derek245583]

Bring em on!!

 

[El Floppo]

Adn I'm sure Scoob meant Cunningham and not Cameron

 

[NewlyRetired]

Only active player who has a chance to get to 100 in the near future is Buddle, stuck on 92 after being hurt most of this season.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Trivia Time:

Last night Dwayne De Rosario become the 7th MLS player to score 100 league goals in regular season play.

Name the other 6.

(5 names are pretty easy, one is not.)

2 names are easy...LD

Moreno

Diaz Arce?

Ching?

McBride?

Cunningham?

Or other lifer honkeys like Lassiter, Razov and Twellman? Looking at that list... feeling pretty good about Diaz Arce, Ching and Cunningham.

Cunningham is the missing piece from Scooby's list. He is the all time leading scorer1. Cunningham

2. Moreno

3. Donovan

4. Razov

5. Kries

6. Twellman

Kries Don't think of him as a goal scorer- incorrectly, obviously. Man- the best US player possibly ever to not feature with the Nats.

Twellman's scoring rate is the most impressive of the top scorers. Broke a 100 in significantly less games (career cut short by concussions sadly)

 

[El Floppo]

Is Mathis close?

eta: and what about Diaz Arce- I figured he'd be a slam dunk.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Is Mathis close?

no. 61 goals in his career.Ruiz is the other big scorer not mentioned. He has 88

 

[NewlyRetired]

Is Mathis close?eta: and what about Diaz Arce- I figured he'd be a slam dunk.

check back on my previous post, I entered info for your other guesses.

 

[El Floppo]

Is Mathis close?eta: and what about Diaz Arce- I figured he'd be a slam dunk.

check back on my previous post, I entered info for your other guesses.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Champions League draw out. Oof - what a group:

Real Madrid (Spain)

Manchester City (England)

Ajax (Netherlands)

Borussia Dortmund (Germany)

 

[Eephus]

How on Earth is Dortmund in pot 4?

I think that's based on the UEFA club coefficients which are based on Europeans competition results over the last 5 years. Currently they are ranked 66th there.

That just seems ridiculous to me. Why not use a seeding committee like the NCAA tournament? They goof up sometimes too, but you don't ever see them make a Top 10 team a 12 seed.

There aren't enough competitive games against common opponents to have a viable seeding system. Even if there was, the minnow federations of UEFA wouldn't agree with it.Ultimately, Dortmund has only themselves to blame for their place in Pot D. They finished bottom of a winnable group last year and I don't believe they made it out of the group stage in their last Europa League appearance.

 

[The Gator]

Carroll to West Ham on loan #tweetrumor

 

[Good Posting Judge]

How on Earth is Dortmund in pot 4?

I think that's based on the UEFA club coefficients which are based on Europeans competition results over the last 5 years. Currently they are ranked 66th there.

That just seems ridiculous to me. Why not use a seeding committee like the NCAA tournament? They goof up sometimes too, but you don't ever see them make a Top 10 team a 12 seed.

There aren't enough competitive games against common opponents to have a viable seeding system. Even if there was, the minnow federations of UEFA wouldn't agree with it.Ultimately, Dortmund has only themselves to blame for their place in Pot D. They finished bottom of a winnable group last year and I don't believe they made it out of the group stage in their last Europa League appearance.

I guess I don't understand why they don't take league play into account when factoring how which teams are the strongest. Just going off of previous European competitions is a pretty small sample size, and obviously produces some weird results.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Any rumors about Dempsey popping up?

If nothing happens does he just start practicing with the first team again like nothing happened? What a friggan mess this is.

 

[Eephus]

Any rumors about Dempsey popping up? If nothing happens does he just start practicing with the first team again like nothing happened? What a friggan mess this is.

e.g. Carlos Tevez

 

[Native]

Any rumors about Dempsey popping up? If nothing happens does he just start practicing with the first team again like nothing happened? What a friggan mess this is.

Per BBC the rumor is:Berbatov getting his medical at FulhamandLiverpool is loaning Carroll to WesthamsoDempsey can move from Fulham to Liverpool

 

[NewlyRetired]

How on Earth is Dortmund in pot 4?

I think that's based on the UEFA club coefficients which are based on Europeans competition results over the last 5 years. Currently they are ranked 66th there.

That just seems ridiculous to me. Why not use a seeding committee like the NCAA tournament? They goof up sometimes too, but you don't ever see them make a Top 10 team a 12 seed.

There aren't enough competitive games against common opponents to have a viable seeding system. Even if there was, the minnow federations of UEFA wouldn't agree with it.Ultimately, Dortmund has only themselves to blame for their place in Pot D. They finished bottom of a winnable group last year and I don't believe they made it out of the group stage in their last Europa League appearance.

I guess I don't understand why they don't take league play into account when factoring how which teams are the strongest. Just going off of previous European competitions is a pretty small sample size, and obviously produces some weird results.

An individual club's coefficient is made up of two items1) The results of club in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League over the previous five seasons2) The coefficient of the clubs domestic leagueWeighting is 80% to #1 and 20% to #2

 

[The Z Machine]

Champions League draw out. Oof - what a group:Real Madrid (Spain)Manchester City (England)Ajax (Netherlands)Borussia Dortmund (Germany)

Absolutely brutal, but should be fun to watch. Dortmund and Ajax must be PISSED.

 

[GoFishTN]

Twitter rumors of French media confirming Lloris to Spurs is done. Imagine Gomes will be sold. Can't see them keeping four keepers.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

How on Earth is Dortmund in pot 4?

I think that's based on the UEFA club coefficients which are based on Europeans competition results over the last 5 years. Currently they are ranked 66th there.

That just seems ridiculous to me. Why not use a seeding committee like the NCAA tournament? They goof up sometimes too, but you don't ever see them make a Top 10 team a 12 seed.

There aren't enough competitive games against common opponents to have a viable seeding system. Even if there was, the minnow federations of UEFA wouldn't agree with it.Ultimately, Dortmund has only themselves to blame for their place in Pot D. They finished bottom of a winnable group last year and I don't believe they made it out of the group stage in their last Europa League appearance.

I guess I don't understand why they don't take league play into account when factoring how which teams are the strongest. Just going off of previous European competitions is a pretty small sample size, and obviously produces some weird results.

An individual club's coefficient is made up of two items1) The results of club in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League over the previous five seasons2) The coefficient of the clubs domestic leagueWeighting is 80% to #1 and 20% to #2

I don't think league coefficient makes much sense either. Maybe factor it in if you use a team's league performance to gauge how good they are, but what if you have a great team from a top-heavy league?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Champions League draw out. Oof - what a group:Real Madrid (Spain)Manchester City (England)Ajax (Netherlands)Borussia Dortmund (Germany)

Absolutely brutal, but should be fun to watch. Dortmund and Ajax must be PISSED.

I doubt Man City and Real Madrid are doing any cartwheels right now.They get an away game at DortmundChelsea gets an away game at FC Nordsjælland

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Champions League draw out. Oof - what a group:Real Madrid (Spain)Manchester City (England)Ajax (Netherlands)Borussia Dortmund (Germany)

Absolutely brutal, but should be fun to watch. Dortmund and Ajax must be PISSED.

I doubt Man City and Real Madrid are doing any cartwheels right now.They get an away game at DortmundChelsea gets an away game at FC Nordsjælland

Yep. Tougher to juggle and keep your squad fresh when you don't have any cupcake CL games.

 

[GoFishTN]

Carroll loan to West Ham done.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1146880/liverpool's-andy-carroll-heads-to-west-ham-on-loan?cc=5901

 

[The Z Machine]

Both City and Real are very deep.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Carroll to West Ham on loan

They pay all of his wages, and if they stay up, will buy him for 17 million pounds. Clint Dempsey and Theo Walcott, to the Courtesy Phone, please.

 

[gianmarco]

Alright, so I'm new to this. Can one of you explain this draw and how it works and what it's being used for?

 

[El Floppo]

Any rumors about Dempsey popping up? If nothing happens does he just start practicing with the first team again like nothing happened? What a friggan mess this is.

Per BBC the rumor is:Berbatov getting his medical at FulhamandLiverpool is loaning Carroll to WesthamsoDempsey can move from Fulham to Liverpool

Has anybody at all even heard word one from Liverpool that Liverpool actually wants Dempsey?

 

[The Gator]

Carroll to West Ham on loan

They pay all of his wages, and if they stay up, will buy him for 17 million pounds. Clint Dempsey and Theo Walcott, Fernando Llorente to the Courtesy Phone, please.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Alright, so I'm new to this. Can one of you explain this draw and how it works and what it's being used for?

Many teams qualify for the Champions LeagueOnce they are whittled down to 32 teams, they are drawn into 8 groups (similar to how a World Cup draw works)Group stage play is a home and away game against every other team in your groupTop two from each group advance to round of 16 at which point it becomes a knock out tournament.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Any rumors about Dempsey popping up? If nothing happens does he just start practicing with the first team again like nothing happened? What a friggan mess this is.

Per BBC the rumor is:Berbatov getting his medical at FulhamandLiverpool is loaning Carroll to WesthamsoDempsey can move from Fulham to Liverpool

Has anybody at all even heard word one from Liverpool that Liverpool actually wants Dempsey?

Rodgers did mention him a few weeks ago. And Fenway Sports Group had a press release up on the website at one time announcing they had made an offer (Fulham says they never received an offer).

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

if they stay up, will buy him for 17 million pounds.

Interesting. Is this SOP and I've just not seen it before, or is it relatively unusual? Like the structure a lot from WHU's side -- very sensible.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Any rumors about Dempsey popping up? If nothing happens does he just start practicing with the first team again like nothing happened? What a friggan mess this is.

Per BBC the rumor is:Berbatov getting his medical at FulhamandLiverpool is loaning Carroll to WesthamsoDempsey can move from Fulham to Liverpool

Has anybody at all even heard word one from Liverpool that Liverpool actually wants Dempsey?

Rodgers did mention him a few weeks ago. And Fenway Sports Group had a press release up on the website at one time announcing they had made an offer (Fulham says they never received an offer).

That press release was an obvious mistake. It got taken down almost immediately. Fulham has been very vocal saying that they never received an offer and even put in a formal complaint against Liverpool.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Group stage play is a home and away game against every other team in your groupTop two from each group advance to round of 16 at which point it becomes a knock out tournament.

'Knock out' also being two games -- one home and one away -- with aggregate score across both determining the winner. Away goals being the first tie-breaker to encourage visiting teams to attack instead of bunker and play for the draw.

 

[gianmarco]

Alright, so I'm new to this. Can one of you explain this draw and how it works and what it's being used for?

Many teams qualify for the Champions LeagueOnce they are whittled down to 32 teams, they are drawn into 8 groups (similar to how a World Cup draw works)Group stage play is a home and away game against every other team in your groupTop two from each group advance to round of 16 at which point it becomes a knock out tournament.

So are they already down to the 32 teams? I know it's a complicated system (I tried reading about it once and gave up) but Is this all based on last year's results? And when do all these matches start taking place and over what period of time?

 

[Major]

Carroll to West Ham on loan

They pay all of his wages, and if they stay up, will buy him for 17 million pounds. Clint Dempsey and Theo Walcott, to the Courtesy Phone, please.

Maybe I haven't watched him close enough but I really liked what Carrol had been doing toward the end of last season and with the national club. I know he's not cheap but seems like it would be smart to keep him around with Suarez. I liked the chemistry of those two together. If they can bring in Walcott and Clint, then I'll be pleased.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I can imagine Sir Alex calling Mancini now. "Enjoy playing Real! Help me out, where is Cluj again?"

And then Mancini says something about Basel and Sir Alex tells him to #### off.

 

[Christo]

Any rumors about Dempsey popping up? If nothing happens does he just start practicing with the first team again like nothing happened? What a friggan mess this is.

Per BBC the rumor is:Berbatov getting his medical at FulhamandLiverpool is loaning Carroll to WesthamsoDempsey can move from Fulham to Liverpool

Has anybody at all even heard word one from Liverpool that Liverpool actually wants Dempsey?

All of it's been second-hand reports. The only official news we really know is that Liverpool has never made an offer.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Carroll to West Ham on loan

They pay all of his wages, and if they stay up, will buy him for 17 million pounds. Clint Dempsey and Theo Walcott, to the Courtesy Phone, please.

Maybe I haven't watched him close enough but I really liked what Carrol had been doing toward the end of last season and with the national club. I know he's not cheap but seems like it would be smart to keep him around with Suarez. I liked the chemistry of those two together. If they can bring in Walcott and Clint, then I'll be pleased.

I'll state an incredibly unpopular opinion. Since about March of last year, Liverpool has played better with Carrol than with Suarez. This is not to say that Suarez is not a better player. He is. But Suarez demands the ball so much that he can really do mischief to the team's attack on the days when he doesn't have his finishing boots (which have become increasingly common). Far too often, IMO, Liverpool's offense revolves around Suarez making a bunch of awesome one on one moves that ultimately amount to nothing.

 

[Spartans Rule]

Alright, so I'm new to this. Can one of you explain this draw and how it works and what it's being used for?

Many teams qualify for the Champions LeagueOnce they are whittled down to 32 teams, they are drawn into 8 groups (similar to how a World Cup draw works)Group stage play is a home and away game against every other team in your groupTop two from each group advance to round of 16 at which point it becomes a knock out tournament.

So are they already down to the 32 teams? I know it's a complicated system (I tried reading about it once and gave up) but Is this all based on last year's results? And when do all these matches start taking place and over what period of time?

It's based on your league's UEFA ranking and last season's results. If your league is ranked 1-3 in Europe (currently England, Spain, Germany) the top 3 teams in last season's standings go right into the 32-team group stage and one team goes into qualifying. Smaller countries can only get 1 team in and even then it takes a lot of qualifying.The Champions League plays on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and moves very slowly. The group stage will run from September to December, then they'll take a winter break before the knockout rounds start in late February.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Carroll to West Ham on loan

They pay all of his wages, and if they stay up, will buy him for 17 million pounds. Clint Dempsey and Theo Walcott, Fernando Llorente to the Courtesy Phone, please.

Sturridge also possibly in the cards. Exciting day and a half coming up.