Should have always been this way, IMO.
Should have always been this way, IMO.
I read somewhere that the Mertesacker-Koscielny CB pairing was the best in the league statistically (presumably as measured by opposing goals scored/90 mins).I'm fascinated that Arsenal, with their sieve center-backs, losing Alex Song and replacing him with a somewhat-out-of-position Arteta, and GK carousel during the second half of the season finished 2nd in goals conceded. Really a testament to what Steve Bould has done for the team this year.Scored:Manchester United 86Chelsea 75Arsenal 72Liverpool 71Manchester City 66Tottenham Hotspur 66Everton 55West Bromwich Albion 53Fulham 50Southampton 49Swansea City 47Aston Villa 47Wigan Athletic 47West Ham United 45Newcastle United 45Reading 43Norwich City 41Sunderland 41Stoke City 34Queens Park Rangers 30Conceded:Manchester City 34Arsenal 37Chelsea 39Everton 40Manchester United 43Liverpool 43Stoke City 45Tottenham Hotspur 46Swansea City 51West Ham United 53Sunderland 54West Bromwich Albion 57Norwich City 58Fulham 60Southampton 60Queens Park Rangers 60Newcastle United 68Aston Villa 69Wigan Athletic 73Reading 73Fourth in goals scored, six in conceded -- seventh in the league.![]()
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Good news is that the same +/- would probably see them finish higher next season and they're "only" +8-10 goal difference from contending.
It's going to always be the 2nd choice European competition regardless of the CL loser's bracket, since it's getting teams that often aren't even the best in their respective divisions.Still not worth the effort. They aren't going to get rid of the stigma until they stop making it the CL loser's bracket.
I support this, but one question...
Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.
Still not worth the effort. They aren't going to get rid of the stigma until they stop making it the CL loser's bracket.
It's still an also-ran competition. No way around that. But the Europa Champion is a champion and certainly more worthy of a CL spot than the runner-up of Romania's League 1.Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
Yep. One of the rules instituted after Liverpool was granted a waiver in '05 is that no league gets more than 4 teams.I support this, but one question...
If an English team wins the Europa League, does the fourth-place Premier League team get thrown out of the CL like Tottenham last year?
I seem to recall them winning a bunch of games by ridiculous margins, but not really losing any by the same... that would skew the goals for and againstScored:Manchester United 86Chelsea 75Arsenal 72Liverpool 71Manchester City 66Tottenham Hotspur 66Everton 55West Bromwich Albion 53Fulham 50Southampton 49Swansea City 47Aston Villa 47Wigan Athletic 47West Ham United 45Newcastle United 45Reading 43Norwich City 41Sunderland 41Stoke City 34Queens Park Rangers 30Conceded:Manchester City 34Arsenal 37Chelsea 39Everton 40Manchester United 43Liverpool 43Stoke City 45Tottenham Hotspur 46Swansea City 51West Ham United 53Sunderland 54West Bromwich Albion 57Norwich City 58Fulham 60Southampton 60Queens Park Rangers 60Newcastle United 68Aston Villa 69Wigan Athletic 73Reading 73Fourth in goals scored, six in conceded -- seventh in the league.![]()
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Good news is that the same +/- would probably see them finish higher next season and they're "only" +8-10 goal difference from contending.
Forgive me for thinking the only red jersey that counts these days happens to reside in Manchester.Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
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Hope he stays and gets a decent hair cut before next season.
It would have far less utility in soccer because the substitutions are so limited. It's not like basketball and hockey when multiple combinations are out there in a game. You only get three subs. I'm sure they track the stat and know, for instance, that Arsenal concedes fewer goals with Koscielny and Mertesacker per 90 minutes than with either of the two and Vermaelen. But I doubt it goes much farther than that.Do they do plus/minus ratings in soccer? Is that even valid?
Forgive me for thinking that fat chicks are gross, and that QPR will be lucky to not get relegated to League 1 next year.Forgive me for thinking the only red jersey that counts these days happens to reside in Manchester.Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
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Hope he stays and gets a decent hair cut before next season.
It takes a man with heart and soul to love QPR and fat chicks. Enjoy your shallow existence.Forgive me for thinking that fat chicks are gross, and that QPR will be lucky to not get relegated to League 1 next year.Forgive me for thinking the only red jersey that counts these days happens to reside in Manchester.Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
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Hope he stays and gets a decent hair cut before next season.
It takes a man with heart, soul, and a bucket of candy bars. Enjoy the stench of taint sweat and melted chocolate.It takes a man with heart and soul to love QPR and fat chicks. Enjoy your shallow existence.Forgive me for thinking that fat chicks are gross, and that QPR will be lucky to not get relegated to League 1 next year.Forgive me for thinking the only red jersey that counts these days happens to reside in Manchester.Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
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Hope he stays and gets a decent hair cut before next season.
He's amazing. Damn Spurs.Gareth Mother####ing Bale
CMon Newcastle
The women come of their own volition. No candy bars needed. You've got a lot to learn about the world, son.It takes a man with heart, soul, and a bucket of candy bars. Enjoy the stench of taint sweat and melted chocolate.It takes a man with heart and soul to love QPR and fat chicks. Enjoy your shallow existence.Forgive me for thinking that fat chicks are gross, and that QPR will be lucky to not get relegated to League 1 next year.Forgive me for thinking the only red jersey that counts these days happens to reside in Manchester.Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
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Hope he stays and gets a decent hair cut before next season.
I've got more knowledge in my little finger, than you have in your entire body, brah.The women come of their own volition. No candy bars needed. You've got a lot to learn about the world, son.It takes a man with heart, soul, and a bucket of candy bars. Enjoy the stench of taint sweat and melted chocolate.It takes a man with heart and soul to love QPR and fat chicks. Enjoy your shallow existence.Forgive me for thinking that fat chicks are gross, and that QPR will be lucky to not get relegated to League 1 next year.Forgive me for thinking the only red jersey that counts these days happens to reside in Manchester.Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
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Hope he stays and gets a decent hair cut before next season.
I find it really hard to get red cards in FIFA 13.Thanks for the FIFA recommend. Lots of 4-player action with the family. Good times. I am the master of the red card.
I find it really hard to get red cards in FIFA 13.Thanks for the FIFA recommend. Lots of 4-player action with the family. Good times. I am the master of the red card.
I have yet to finish a match with a full squad. But it's not like we are playing not to foul either.I don't play online, but it seems that most experienced players don't slide tackle. I still get pissed at how fouls are called. I seem to get more fouls when I'm not even tackling.I find it really hard to get red cards in FIFA 13.Thanks for the FIFA recommend. Lots of 4-player action with the family. Good times. I am the master of the red card.
Some buddies and I like to play intentional red card games and it was much easier in 12.I find it really hard to get red cards in FIFA 13.Thanks for the FIFA recommend. Lots of 4-player action with the family. Good times. I am the master of the red card.I have yet to finish a match with a full squad. But it's not like we are playing not to foul either.
Slide tackling really only works near the sidelines in 13. Trying one near the middle of the field rarely gets you red carded, but does usually leave you sitting on your ### watching the attacker dribble around you.I don't play online, but it seems that most experienced players don't slide tackle. I still get pissed at how fouls are called. I seem to get more fouls when I'm not even tackling.I find it really hard to get red cards in FIFA 13.Thanks for the FIFA recommend. Lots of 4-player action with the family. Good times. I am the master of the red card.
It also really depends on which player you're using. As much as I hate him, Pepe is a slide tackling machine in FIFA13.Slide tackling really only works near the sidelines in 13. Trying one near the middle of the field rarely gets you red carded, but does usually leave you sitting on your ### watching the attacker dribble around you.I don't play online, but it seems that most experienced players don't slide tackle. I still get pissed at how fouls are called. I seem to get more fouls when I'm not even tackling.I find it really hard to get red cards in FIFA 13.Thanks for the FIFA recommend. Lots of 4-player action with the family. Good times. I am the master of the red card.
Keep it up guys, great stuff.I've got more knowledge in my little finger, than you have in your entire body, brah.The women come of their own volition. No candy bars needed. You've got a lot to learn about the world, son.It takes a man with heart, soul, and a bucket of candy bars. Enjoy the stench of taint sweat and melted chocolate.It takes a man with heart and soul to love QPR and fat chicks. Enjoy your shallow existence.Forgive me for thinking that fat chicks are gross, and that QPR will be lucky to not get relegated to League 1 next year.Forgive me for thinking the only red jersey that counts these days happens to reside in Manchester.Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
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Hope he stays and gets a decent hair cut before next season.
Keep it up guys, great stuff.I've got more knowledge in my little finger, than you have in your entire body, brah.The women come of their own volition. No candy bars needed. You've got a lot to learn about the world, son.It takes a man with heart, soul, and a bucket of candy bars. Enjoy the stench of taint sweat and melted chocolate.It takes a man with heart and soul to love QPR and fat chicks. Enjoy your shallow existence.Forgive me for thinking that fat chicks are gross, and that QPR will be lucky to not get relegated to League 1 next year.Forgive me for thinking the only red jersey that counts these days happens to reside in Manchester.Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
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Hope he stays and gets a decent hair cut before next season.![]()
So what happens to the Cosmos?Manchester City Is Majority Owner of New York City FC, MLS’s 20th Team: Official
How does NY end up with these awful names?
They're already set to join NASL this fall.So what happens to the Cosmos?Manchester City Is Majority Owner of New York City FC, MLS’s 20th Team: Official
How does NY end up with these awful names?
I love a well-timed slide tackle. Really need to get the angle right too. What pisses me off is when you get the tackle, but the ball falls to the opponent or even the guy you tackled because he got up before you.It also really depends on which player you're using. As much as I hate him, Pepe is a slide tackling machine in FIFA13.Slide tackling really only works near the sidelines in 13. Trying one near the middle of the field rarely gets you red carded, but does usually leave you sitting on your ### watching the attacker dribble around you.I don't play online, but it seems that most experienced players don't slide tackle. I still get pissed at how fouls are called. I seem to get more fouls when I'm not even tackling.I find it really hard to get red cards in FIFA 13.Thanks for the FIFA recommend. Lots of 4-player action with the family. Good times. I am the master of the red card.
As opposed to all of this scintillating FIFA 13 slide tackle/red card talk?Bonzai said:Keep it up guys, great stuff.SmoovySmoov said:I've got more knowledge in my little finger, than you have in your entire body, brah.Christo said:The women come of their own volition. No candy bars needed. You've got a lot to learn about the world, son.SmoovySmoov said:It takes a man with heart, soul, and a bucket of candy bars. Enjoy the stench of taint sweat and melted chocolate.Christo said:It takes a man with heart and soul to love QPR and fat chicks. Enjoy your shallow existence.SmoovySmoov said:Forgive me for thinking that fat chicks are gross, and that QPR will be lucky to not get relegated to League 1 next year.Christo said:Forgive me for thinking the only red jersey that counts these days happens to reside in Manchester.The Gator said:Christo said:Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
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Longest serving managers in the BPL:Wenger PardewBig Sam Jol Rogers Not a typoThe Gator said:Pulis out at Stoke![]()
The Aristocrats!Pick said:Thanks for the FIFA recommend. Lots of 4-player action with the family. Good times. I am the master of the red card.
I'd be in for either. Let's get a list together.Sebowski said:I love a well-timed slide tackle. Really need to get the angle right too. What pisses me off is when you get the tackle, but the ball falls to the opponent or even the guy you tackled because he got up before you.Bonzai said:It also really depends on which player you're using. As much as I hate him, Pepe is a slide tackling machine in FIFA13.CBusAlex said:Slide tackling really only works near the sidelines in 13. Trying one near the middle of the field rarely gets you red carded, but does usually leave you sitting on your ### watching the attacker dribble around you.Ramsay Hunt Experience said:I don't play online, but it seems that most experienced players don't slide tackle. I still get pissed at how fouls are called. I seem to get more fouls when I'm not even tackling.Slapdash said:I find it really hard to get red cards in FIFA 13.Pick said:Thanks for the FIFA recommend. Lots of 4-player action with the family. Good times. I am the master of the red card.
Sounds like you might have enough people to try and get a team going again? Or how about a little casual round robin?
Yeah, but I thought their intent was to join MLS in the future, no?CBusAlex said:They're already set to join NASL this fall.Steve Tasker said:So what happens to the Cosmos?GoFishTN said:Manchester City Is Majority Owner of New York City FC, MLSs 20th Team: Official
How does NY end up with these awful names?
I'm a BOSS with slide tacklingAs opposed to all of this scintillating FIFA 13 slide tackle/red card talk?Bonzai said:Keep it up guys, great stuff.SmoovySmoov said:I've got more knowledge in my little finger, than you have in your entire body, brah.Christo said:The women come of their own volition. No candy bars needed. You've got a lot to learn about the world, son.SmoovySmoov said:It takes a man with heart, soul, and a bucket of candy bars. Enjoy the stench of taint sweat and melted chocolate.Christo said:It takes a man with heart and soul to love QPR and fat chicks. Enjoy your shallow existence.SmoovySmoov said:Forgive me for thinking that fat chicks are gross, and that QPR will be lucky to not get relegated to League 1 next year.Christo said:Forgive me for thinking the only red jersey that counts these days happens to reside in Manchester.The Gator said:Christo said:I give Spurs a hard time. But I like this. The more teams with elite players, the better, IMO. We get to keep seeing him play in the the BPL next season. And it's not in a friggin' red or blue jersey. If they add a few pieces and qualify for CL next year, he may just stay beyond next year.
Gareth Bale signs £130,000-a-week contract with Spurs ... but can leave next summer for £50m
Interesting if true. £50m might be a tad low, but it gives them a chance to put some pieces around him this summer.![]()
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IIRC, they're not interested in joining as long as the single-entity structure and salary cap are in place. I think they were hoping that if they could build up enough of a following in NASL, they could eventually force MLS to change the rules to accommodate them. Looks like they might have gambled and lost on that one.Yeah, but I thought their intent was to join MLS in the future, no?CBusAlex said:They're already set to join NASL this fall.Steve Tasker said:So what happens to the Cosmos?GoFishTN said:Manchester City Is Majority Owner of New York City FC, MLSs 20th Team: Official
How does NY end up with these awful names?
I just read this.I understand your friend's feeling. Losing last season's final was crushing, I don't know if there is a word for losing this year as well.Goetze was ruled out today. With Hummels hobbling on a bad ankle, things are not looking good for Dortmund or for neutral fans wanting to see a good final. Bayern is fit, extremely motivated and riding high. It will be an absolute disaster if they fail. Good friend of mine is driving up to London from Bavaria with two tickets in hand - a lifelong Bayern fan and season ticket holder - and said today he is "shivering when I think that this final could get lost, as the two others I have watched."
This is a good friend of mine of nearly 30 years. We've traveled together and been to many sporting events together all over Europe, including Germany games and BM games at the old Olympia Stadium. We talk via email year round, mostly about sports and mostly euro football. He was at the final last year but has never mentioned it since. We had a ton of discussion leading up to the game, but he's ignored every comment or question I've made regarding that game, including of course the obligatory "your team was better and deserved to win" comments I made several times afterward. Bayern is a strange breed. The pressure on these players is tremendous. I think by far the worst part of losing would be having to face the scorn of Beckenbauer, Hoeness, Rummenigge, et al.I just read this.I understand your friend's feeling. Losing last season's final was crushing, I don't know if there is a word for losing this year as well.Goetze was ruled out today. With Hummels hobbling on a bad ankle, things are not looking good for Dortmund or for neutral fans wanting to see a good final. Bayern is fit, extremely motivated and riding high. It will be an absolute disaster if they fail. Good friend of mine is driving up to London from Bavaria with two tickets in hand - a lifelong Bayern fan and season ticket holder - and said today he is "shivering when I think that this final could get lost, as the two others I have watched."
I'm in Baltimore. Been living here for almost 2 years. We live in town in a 2 story row home that we rent. We're looking for a bigger place in or neighborhood but didn't have much luck. Made an offer on one place, but lost out. We're waiting fort Thomas to shaker out a bit in our family situation before we start the host search up again.I'm off till may 30. My MIL had been staying with us since the berth. We'd be so ####ed without her. My mom comes on Saturday and will replace my MIL for a week. Then my wife will be alone for a few days until her sister comes from VZLA. Then MIL returns for a week, and then we're on our own.4 user(s) are reading this topic
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Dude... twins! I can't even imagine.
Where are you living?
Good luck Z. And GB grandmothers. They'll save your life -- keep one around at all times if possible. And I say that as someone who only had one at a time.I'm in Baltimore. Been living here for almost 2 years. We live in town in a 2 story row home that we rent. We're looking for a bigger place in or neighborhood but didn't have much luck. Made an offer on one place, but lost out. We're waiting fort Thomas to shaker out a bit in our family situation before we start the host search up again.I'm off till may 30. My MIL had been staying with us since the berth. We'd be so ####ed without her. My mom comes on Saturday and will replace my MIL for a week. Then my wife will be alone for a few days until her sister comes from VZLA. Then MIL returns for a week, and then we're on our own.4 user(s) are reading this topic
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Dude... twins! I can't even imagine.
Where are you living?
MIL intends to true and move to BMore in sept to hero raise the twins.
My life just got very different...
Where the hell were you? Thought we'd lost toy a few months back.
Anyone else going? Z?