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CletiusMaximus said:
Slapdash said:
CletiusMaximus said:
Lovin this silly season.

Paris Saint-Germain president Sheikh Nasser Al-Khelaifi -- "If Barca pay the buy-out clause of Thiago Silva then I will meet Messi's buy-out clause"

http://www.actusports.fr/67766/la-reponse-choc-de-nasser-al-khelaifi-a-linteret-du-barca-pour-thiago-silva/
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That is fake and Silva doesn't have a buyout clause. I believe they're illegal in the French League.
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So Messi is probably not moving to PSG for E250m then?
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Maybe if they include Zlatan again :lol:

 
Arsenal sign Brazilian left winger Bernard for 21mil? For that kind of cash I am assuming that is their last move of the window :wall:

 
Native said:
T Bell said:
Sebowski said:
Arsenal sign Brazilian left winger Bernard for 21mil? For that kind of cash I am assuming that is their last move of the window :wall:
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That's one reporter's speculation/rumor so far.
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Thats all it takes these days to be all over the twitterspehere!

Surprised theyre spending so much money, and on a winger no less.
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He's 20, so (like Sanogo) he'd be a purchase for the future. He's also tiny - 5'5" according to Wikipedia. :eek:

As a consequence, that wouldn't be the end of their spending (their budget is reported to be 70M). We'll see.

 
Sebowski said:
T Bell said:
Sebowski said:
Arsenal sign Brazilian left winger Bernard for 21mil? For that kind of cash I am assuming that is their last move of the window :wall:
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That's one reporter's speculation/rumor so far.
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I actually really like the player, but Arsenal need to replace Van Persie. They should have got the Higuian deal done last month before all the big pockets jumped in the race.
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People are blaming Arsenal for this, but recall that they couldn't complete the deal until Ancelotti reported for duty 3 weeks ago, and then Ancelotti reportedly moved the goal posts on them and increased the price beyond what they'd been discussing. Fair play to Ancelotti, but it's tough to blame Arsenal for that.

I don't think the deal is dead, but it's clear that Arsenal aren't going to be able to buy him for the price they'd been talking to RM about pre-Ancelotti.

 
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The Gator said:
Sebowski said:
The Gator said:
Sebowski said:
Arsenal sign Brazilian left winger Bernard for 21mil? For that kind of cash I am assuming that is their last move of the window :wall:
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link?
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twitter.com/fml
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:lmao:

He'd be a great signing, but I've read about 3rd party ownership with him. More likely to be off to one of the Portugal teams first before a move to a bigger club.
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Are we sure he's played enough as an international to even get a work permit? He's only got 5 int'l appearances.

And yeah, the 3rd party ownership mess is particularly problematic in England.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Tough to hear about Vilanova.

Xavi for player/manager, IMO.
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Marcelo Biesla is the shark move here. He is a tactical genius who did great at Athletic and has experience with Argentina and Chile's national teams.

As a bonus, he is from Messi's hometown and played/managed Newell's Old Boys.

 
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Tancredi Palmeri ‏@tancredipalmeri3m

BREAKING NEWS: according to catalan paper Sport, Barcelona will announce the departure of manager Vilanova!

Tancredi Palmeri ‏@tancredipalmeri15m

NEWS ALERT: Barcelona president and sports director have called an unexpected press conference for tonight 8.30pm
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Risto Mejide ‏@ristomejide 24m Tito no se retira. Sólo se concentra para el partido más importante de su vida. #ÀnimsTitoRetweeted by Adria Vilanova

:sadbanana:

 
Benteke pulled a 180 and signed an extension with Aston Villa. That looked like Spurs' best option to upgrade at striker without spending a huge amount, so now what are they going to do?

 
Slapdash said:
Native said:
Tancredi Palmeri ‏@tancredipalmeri3m

BREAKING NEWS: according to catalan paper Sport, Barcelona will announce the departure of manager Vilanova!

Tancredi Palmeri ‏@tancredipalmeri15m

NEWS ALERT: Barcelona president and sports director have called an unexpected press conference for tonight 8.30pm
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Risto Mejide ‏@ristomejide 24m Tito no se retira. Sólo se concentra para el partido más importante de su vida. #ÀnimsTitoRetweeted by Adria Vilanova

:sadbanana:
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Tito officially out. Club expects to announce a new coach early next week. Tomorrow's friendly in Poland has been canceled.

 
T Bell said:
Native said:
Do you expect any different from the tabloids? :lmao: :rolleyes:

The Sun - Football ‏@TheSunFootball1h

Tito Vilanova is set to stand down as Barcelona boss - boosting Man United's hopes of landing Cesc Fabregas http://bit.ly/12Pa957 #mufc
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:goodposting:

It's not even been 24 hours since Barca unequivocally stated Cesc's going nowhere. Do they really think Barca didn't know about Tito when they issued that statement? :rolleyes:
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Sounds like he just got the results of some test today. He was actually leading training this morning: https://twitter.com/barcastuff/status/358270242511802369/photo/1

Not sure why losing a coach would make Barcelona sell an important player like Cesc.

 
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Or why Cesc would want to leave his dream club a year after agitating to join his dream club.

Seems like a lot of fluff until Cesc himself actually indicates interest in going back to England.

 
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I think Hunter mentioned Rubi (coached Girona last year, joined Barca staff this off-season) as a potential replacement.
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That was speculation. Here is more speculation:

Barcelona's new coach will not be one of the two assistant coaches, but come from outside the club. Barcelona had plan B prepared. [rac1]

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Or why Cesc would want to leave his dream club a year after agitating to join his dream club.

Seems like a lot of fluff until Cesc himself actually indicates interest in going back to England.
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Moreover, if he returned to England, why wouldn't he just return to Arsenal where he's still loved, and who thought enough of him to negotiate the buy-back clause into his contract?

I'm starting to get suspicious that Cesc will return to Arsenal in a year based upon the way the recent statements were worded. We shall see.

 
T Bell said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Or why Cesc would want to leave his dream club a year after agitating to join his dream club.

Seems like a lot of fluff until Cesc himself actually indicates interest in going back to England.
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Moreover, if he returned to England, why wouldn't he just return to Arsenal where he's still loved, and who thought enough of him to negotiate the buy-back clause into his contract?

I'm starting to get suspicious that Cesc will return to Arsenal in a year based upon the way the recent statements were worded. We shall see.
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I don't see why he would leave at all with Thiago gone. However, going back to Arsenal is a no-brainer if he does leave.

 
Slapdash said:
T Bell said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Or why Cesc would want to leave his dream club a year after agitating to join his dream club.

Seems like a lot of fluff until Cesc himself actually indicates interest in going back to England.
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Moreover, if he returned to England, why wouldn't he just return to Arsenal where he's still loved, and who thought enough of him to negotiate the buy-back clause into his contract?

I'm starting to get suspicious that Cesc will return to Arsenal in a year based upon the way the recent statements were worded. We shall see.
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I don't see why he would leave at all with Thiago gone. However, going back to Arsenal is a no-brainer if he does leave.
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While it would render some wing players superfluous, playing Santi-Cesc-Wilshere across the front as three AM's behind a single (hopefully upgraded) striker, and with two wing backs overlapping would be a pretty frightening attack. But I digress...

 
The rumor mill is rife with speculation about AVB going to Barca. Boy would that have some huge impact upon Spurs if that was true.

Right when it looks like they're stable from last year and keeping Bale, and then have added a nice building block with Paulinho, suddenly AVB is gone and Bale has to once more assess whether he wants to stick around.

Such a strange summer.

 
T Bell said:
The rumor mill is rife with speculation about AVB going to Barca. Boy would that have some huge impact upon Spurs if that was true.

Right when it looks like they're stable from last year and keeping Bale, and then have added a nice building block with Paulinho, suddenly AVB is gone and Bale has to once more assess whether he wants to stick around.

Such a strange summer.
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:goodposting:

Sounds like AVB is right up there with names like Biesla and Enrique as possibilities. Can't see Enrique moving after just getting to Celta. Laudrup is a dark-horse I like.

 
Slapdash said:
T Bell said:
The rumor mill is rife with speculation about AVB going to Barca. Boy would that have some huge impact upon Spurs if that was true.

Right when it looks like they're stable from last year and keeping Bale, and then have added a nice building block with Paulinho, suddenly AVB is gone and Bale has to once more assess whether he wants to stick around.

Such a strange summer.
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:goodposting:

Sounds like AVB is right up there with names like Biesla and Enrique as possibilities. Can't see Enrique moving after just getting to Celta. Laudrup is a dark-horse I like.
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That's who I'm thinking too, though I wonder if they're over him going to RM from Barca 20 years ago. :lol:

AVB, don't forget, was a Mourinho acolyte, and he's not really lit the world on fire since he left Portugal, so I don't know how hot of a commodity he is with Barca right now.

 
T Bell said:
Slapdash said:
T Bell said:
The rumor mill is rife with speculation about AVB going to Barca. Boy would that have some huge impact upon Spurs if that was true.

Right when it looks like they're stable from last year and keeping Bale, and then have added a nice building block with Paulinho, suddenly AVB is gone and Bale has to once more assess whether he wants to stick around.

Such a strange summer.
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:goodposting:

Sounds like AVB is right up there with names like Biesla and Enrique as possibilities. Can't see Enrique moving after just getting to Celta. Laudrup is a dark-horse I like.
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That's who I'm thinking too, though I wonder if they're over him going to RM from Barca 20 years ago. :lol:

AVB, don't forget, was a Mourinho acolyte, and he's not really lit the world on fire since he left Portugal, so I don't know how hot of a commodity he is with Barca right now.
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Good point, that wouldn't go over too well.

 
T Bell said:
The rumor mill is rife with speculation about AVB going to Barca. Boy would that have some huge impact upon Spurs if that was true.

Right when it looks like they're stable from last year and keeping Bale, and then have added a nice building block with Paulinho, suddenly AVB is gone and Bale has to once more assess whether he wants to stick around.

Such a strange summer.
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Maybe this is why Benteke backed out...

 
Bonzai said:
T Bell said:
The rumor mill is rife with speculation about AVB going to Barca. Boy would that have some huge impact upon Spurs if that was true.

Right when it looks like they're stable from last year and keeping Bale, and then have added a nice building block with Paulinho, suddenly AVB is gone and Bale has to once more assess whether he wants to stick around.

Such a strange summer.
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Maybe this is why Benteke backed out...
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Interesting thought, though I doubt AVB would have disclosed this to him. This news about Tito seems to have caught everyone by surprise, so I'd suspect it's just coincidence about Benteke.

 
Lost in the shuffle today: PSG finalizes purchase of Marquinhos for an outrageous 35 million euros.

Almost 80 million on CBs in the last two years.

 
Slapdash said:
"Good said:
Tough to hear about Vilanova.

Xavi for player/manager, IMO.
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Marcelo Biesla is the shark move here. He is a tactical genius who did great at Athletic and has experience with Argentina and Chile's national teams.

As a bonus, he is from Messi's hometown and played/managed Newell's Old Boys.
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I'd love the Madman Bielsa for my club. Is he currently employed? One would expect Barca have a succession plan in place.

Good luck to Tito.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
Slapdash said:
"Good said:
Tough to hear about Vilanova.

Xavi for player/manager, IMO.
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Marcelo Biesla is the shark move here. He is a tactical genius who did great at Athletic and has experience with Argentina and Chile's national teams.

As a bonus, he is from Messi's hometown and played/managed Newell's Old Boys.
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I'd love the Madman Bielsa for my club. Is he currently employed? One would expect Barca have a succession plan in place.

Good luck to Tito.
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His contract expired in June actually.

He would be very fun to have.

 
You guys get tix for the game Sunday? Looks like the team will need you.

BALTIMORE -- Welcome to Little San Salvador.

In fact, there may not be much that's "little" about the throng of Salvadoran fans that will almost certainly outnumber U.S. supporters when the two nations meet in the Gold Cup quarterfinals here on Sunday (4 p.m. ET, big FOX, Univision). More than 71,000 tickets had been sold as of Friday morning, including some 46,000 since Tuesday alone. A sell-out at M&T Bank Stadium is possible for the doubleheader, whose nightcap features Honduras-Costa Rica.

When Cuba pulled off a stunner to beat Belize by the four goals the Cubans needed to advance on Tuesday, it sparked a chain reaction that made life harder for the U.S. on Sunday. Instead of facing Martinique before a pro-U.S. crowd, the Americans now meet El Salvador (which, had it not been for the Cuba surprise, would have played in Atlanta).

And guess which U.S. metropolitan area has the largest concentration of Salvadorans other than Los Angeles? Yep: the Washington D.C. area, with some 135,000 Salvadoran-born immigrants and even more second-generation offspring. It was amusing this week to see some media outlets claim the ticket spike since Tuesday was due to the U.S. team playing in Baltimore, when the main reason was that soccer-loving Salvadoran fans learned their team would be playing in their backyard.

Truth be told, I don't have any problems with it. The U.S. gets an advantage from hosting every Gold Cup, but that's mitigated by sometimes having a road atmosphere on U.S. soil. You can expect that on Sunday, just as you can if the U.S. were to meet Mexico in the final on July 28 in Chicago. (We can save the argument for another day over whether U.S. citizens should be cheering for El Salvador and Mexico. My feeling is that will slowly change over time as more U.S. Latinos play and succeed for the U.S. team.)

As for the game itself, the U.S. is a better team than El Salvador, and there's no good reason why the U.S. shouldn't win. Jurgen Klinsmann's outfit is on a roll with an all-time-record eight straight victories. Landon Donovan has been showing the quality Klinsmann wanted to see from him as he tries to earn his way back onto the U.S. World Cup qualifying team. And several other U.S. players have been performing well, including Joe Corona, José Torres, Stuart Holden, DaMarcus Beasley, Mix Diskerud, Clarence Goodson, Michael Orozco, Chris Wondolowski and Kyle Beckerman.

Two big questions: How will some of the U.S.'s less-experienced players respond to the raucous stadium atmosphere? And how will the introduction of three new players into the U.S. squad change the equation? Per tournament rules, each team could add as many as four players (and drop four others) for the knockout rounds. Klinsmann was the only coach who brought in more than one player, choosing to call up Eddie Johnson, Alan Gordon, Matt Besler and Omar González. (He dropped Corey Ashe, Jack McInerney, Hérculez Gómez and Oguchi Onyewu. González will join the team for the semis if it advances.)

Will the new U.S. players blend in seamlessly? Or will they jar the chemistry that has already been built over the last two weeks?

El Salvador's biggest threat is Rodolfo Zelaya, the 25-year-old forward who has all three of the team's goals in the tournament. (Zelaya, who's playing for the club Alianza in El Salvador, would be a great signing for an MLS team -- why not D.C. United and its Salvadoran fans?)

There are also some U.S. connections on this Salvadoran team: Jaime Alas was the player who scored the killer added-time goal that knocked the U.S. out of the Olympic qualifying tournament last year. (Several U.S. players here were on that team, including Sean Johnson, Brek Shea, Corona, Diskerud and Bill Hamid.

Also with El Salvador is midfielder Alexander Larín, who punched the U.S.'s Terrence Boyd during that Olympic qualifying tournament game and was reported to have bit Diskerud and Freddy Adu as well. (Larín was subsequently suspended three games for the sucker punch.)

So there's some history here, giving more storylines to an already-compelling Gold Cup quarterfinal. We'll have more for you in the next couple days from Little San Salvador.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130719/united-states-vs-el-salvador-gold-cup/#ixzz2ZWoB2azH
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####### Belize...

 
Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but anybody else worried about how Strootman coming to Roma will affect Bradley?

 
I got tix for the GC game in Baltimore. It will be me and my wife. It can't be any worse than the GC final 2 years ago in the Rose Bowl. I was one of abou 5-10% US fans with the rest pulling for El Tri.

 
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