B Maverick
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UNITED SCORES A FIRST HALF GOAL AT OLD TRAFFORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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B Maverick
Footballguy
2 FIRST HALF GOALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Congrats to Maverick and our other United fans for their first half deluge of goals. Hang on, you Saints.
My twitter account suggested today that I might be interested in following Ron Vlaar. Wtmf?
My twitter account suggested today that I might be interested in following Ron Vlaar. Wtmf?
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
Alli and Kane have Spurs up 2-0 at half. Man that Alli kid is fun to watch.
Spurs could be critical cogs for the England National Team for many years to come... Alli, Kane, Dier, Mason, even Trippier...
Spurs could be critical cogs for the England National Team for many years to come... Alli, Kane, Dier, Mason, even Trippier...
B Maverick
Footballguy
more goals in the first half today then their last 11 1st halfs at OT combined
ETA more important is they are exciting to watch and attacking today. Despite the presence of Fellaini. Hopefully they can keep it up in the 2nd half and dont throw it away like Newcastle.
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B Maverick
Footballguy
my copa America code lets me select tickets but when I add them to my cart I get an error every time. I'm gonna give another try tonight but I really want some levi stadium tickets 
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Sorry Leicester, but now that Liverpool are dead and buried I'm pulling for you. Pretty much ensures away losses in the next two and the end of the fairy tale.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Getting a point at the Emirates is a decent result for Soton. Hanging around.
Spurs now second?
Spurs now second?
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
The struggle is real for Arsenal right now.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Also that Vardy goal was lovely.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Finally an exciting and dominant performance from United. Attacking, free flowing futbol. Despite the presence of Fellainin they did well. Carrick is important to their success playing key passes forward and opening people up for chances. Defense looked a bit shaky at times but no real chances from Stoke. Crouch is everything the announcers think Fellaini is or should be.
The only blemish for me is fellaini. He has no vision, no passing, no touch other then his chest. With Schneiderlin in there next to Carrick this team could build on this performance and work to get back into the top 4.
I am actually rooting for Leicester to take the title since United arent going too. What a crazy table: LC, Man City, Tottenham, Arsenal, United
The only blemish for me is fellaini. He has no vision, no passing, no touch other then his chest. With Schneiderlin in there next to Carrick this team could build on this performance and work to get back into the top 4.
I am actually rooting for Leicester to take the title since United arent going too. What a crazy table: LC, Man City, Tottenham, Arsenal, United
B Maverick
Footballguy
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
Jackson Martinez to China for $45Mil Euro.
Guarin and Jackson Martinez on the way to China, Falcao may be next. Chinese are spending serious money.
Good business by Atletico getting $45mil for Martinez. He wasn't really doing much at Atletico.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Sunday is the Jose Derby, United at Chelsea.
Kafka
Footballguy
Roma win their 2nd game in 3 days, dealing with many injuries. Spaletti imposing his will & footballing acumen(?)bon this team already, after only 4 games. One-touch passing, vertical & incisive passing, triangles...beautiful in it's simplicity. Under Rudi Garcia, it was all speed, counterattack; speed, mindless running; speed,4-3-3...etc, etc, etc. The two Egyptians each scored, with El Sharawy scoring his 2nd goal in his 2nd game. Spaletti's 3 new signings in their 1st 2 games:2 MOTMs, 2 goals, & 2 assists. The perfect remedy for Kafka's winter doldrums. It's not even the results per se, as much as it is the flair & the true passion...sangfroid never was for Roma anyway...Forza.
Kafka
Footballguy
...don't forget Gervinho for $18 mil; God bless the godless Chinese.
Jackson Martinez to China for $45Mil Euro.
Guarin and Jackson Martinez on the way to China, Falcao may be next. Chinese are spending serious money.
Good business by Atletico getting $45mil for Martinez. He wasn't really doing much at Atletico.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Watford could move into seventh place tomorrow. Seventeenth place Norwich is eleven points behind current seventh place Southampton. What a wonderful mess.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
I knew I was forgetting someone....don't forget Gervinho for $18 mil; God bless the godless Chinese.
Jackson Martinez to China for $45Mil Euro.
Guarin and Jackson Martinez on the way to China, Falcao may be next. Chinese are spending serious money.
Good business by Atletico getting $45mil for Martinez. He wasn't really doing much at Atletico.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Chinese clubs have been raiding Brazil for some time now - buying up youth as well as older players. Ramires, Gyan, Paulinho, Robinho, Ba, Montero and Eidur Gudjohnsen are all there, more to follow. For a player like Martinez, late 20's and not getting regular minutes in Spain, its an easy move.Kafka said:...don't forget Gervinho for $18 mil; God bless the godless Chinese.Poke_4_Life said:
Jackson Martinez to China for $45Mil Euro.
Guarin and Jackson Martinez on the way to China, Falcao may be next. Chinese are spending serious money.
Good business by Atletico getting $45mil for Martinez. He wasn't really doing much at Atletico.
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
Great deal for Atlético, getting 42m for him after a terrible half season. They paid 35m for him in the summer. I don't know how his value has increased, but I hope there's nothing shady about the deal.
So they'll get through the rest of the season with who they have up top (Griezmann, Carrasco, Vietto, Correa, and Torres). Only one of those is a true CF, and he's not scoring many goals since he left Liverpool. He likely won't be designed by Atlético so I hope he finds the net once more to get to 100 Ateti goals.
I have to think that Atlético will make a move for another true #9 this summer. They may bring back Bastón who is having a breakout year with Eibar in la primera right now, but that's not going to cost them much. Proven, quality #9s are very hard to come by. Not sure who they still go after.
So they'll get through the rest of the season with who they have up top (Griezmann, Carrasco, Vietto, Correa, and Torres). Only one of those is a true CF, and he's not scoring many goals since he left Liverpool. He likely won't be designed by Atlético so I hope he finds the net once more to get to 100 Ateti goals.
I have to think that Atlético will make a move for another true #9 this summer. They may bring back Bastón who is having a breakout year with Eibar in la primera right now, but that's not going to cost them much. Proven, quality #9s are very hard to come by. Not sure who they still go after.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Attendance in the Chinese major league has inched past MLS and the tv money is increasing by leaps and bounds. What they're missing, oddly enough, is grass roots talent, even though there's so many of them. Chinese moms and dads steer their kids away from "wasting their time" pursuing sports seriously. They're really a fascinating new dynamic to world footy.Chinese clubs have been raiding Brazil for some time now - buying up youth as well as older players. Ramires, Gyan, Paulinho, Robinho, Ba, Montero and Eidur Gudjohnsen are all there, more to follow. For a player like Martinez, late 20's and not getting regular minutes in Spain, its an easy move.Kafka said:...don't forget Gervinho for $18 mil; God bless the godless Chinese.Poke_4_Life said:
Jackson Martinez to China for $45Mil Euro.
Guarin and Jackson Martinez on the way to China, Falcao may be next. Chinese are spending serious money.
Good business by Atletico getting $45mil for Martinez. He wasn't really doing much at Atletico.
Kafka
Footballguy
"Borja" Baston is a classic Spanish striker...I've spoken of his abilities in this thread when he played (on loan) for Real Zaragoza; he almost singlehandedly brought RZ to the brink of La Liga promotion, & subsequently has had a similar impact for Eibar this year...impressive for his age. Atletico has handled his loans/progression extremely well & I think he'd make the transition to AM rather well. There's been recent rumours in the Italian press of Simione leaving for Inter this summer...any truth to that?
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Can someone with a better sense of history/longer knowledge of the English game explain Brian Clough to me?
I knew he'd led Nottingham Forest into the First Division and then won the league and two European Cups, but didn't know he also managed Derby to a win in 1972.
Is he revered as one of the great English managers of all-time? I've never really heard much about him at all, but taking those two teams to titles has to rank as one of the great achievements in English soccer?
It's funny how many great managers announce their arrival by winning trophies at a relatively smaller club... Mourinho winning the CL at Porto, SAF taking Aberdeen to the Scottish title then beating Real in the Cup Winners Cup, etc. Why did Clough stay at Forest for another 10 years instead of move to a big club?
I knew he'd led Nottingham Forest into the First Division and then won the league and two European Cups, but didn't know he also managed Derby to a win in 1972.
Is he revered as one of the great English managers of all-time? I've never really heard much about him at all, but taking those two teams to titles has to rank as one of the great achievements in English soccer?
It's funny how many great managers announce their arrival by winning trophies at a relatively smaller club... Mourinho winning the CL at Porto, SAF taking Aberdeen to the Scottish title then beating Real in the Cup Winners Cup, etc. Why did Clough stay at Forest for another 10 years instead of move to a big club?
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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I'm not an expert on the history, but recommend The Damned United if you're interested in Clough. It was on Netflix a few years ago when I first watched. I don't know if its historically accurate, but is very well done, great acting good story - covers what is the biggest blot on his record, the 44 day stint at Leeds.
charvik
Footballguy
No doubt he should be mentioned as one of the great managers in English football history, and he was also a good striker when he played. I think he was close to a goal per game in over 200 league games before he tore his knee.
The reason why he is not mentioned is because he was a giant ****! He regularly fought with the boards on the clubs he managed, often in the press, made transfers without consulting them, accused all clubs and the FA to be corrupt publically, and took bribes himself at the same time. He was also a well known alcoholic, often went on rants about people at the clubs he felt didn't want to win etc... He once got two tea ladies fired from a club because they were laughing after a defeat (I think at Derby).
If he wasn't such a #### he would be mentioned among the greats, but his antics basically caused him to not move on to a bigger club, or the national job.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
There's also the feeling, accurate or not, that Clough relied so heavily on Peter Taylor that it was tough to separate out their separate influences on the teams.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I love this place sometimes...great info -- thanks all.
Also, I always assumed Damned United was about Man U. Kind of an English remake of Thise Damn Yankees. Had no idea what it was.
Also, I always assumed Damned United was about Man U. Kind of an English remake of Thise Damn Yankees. Had no idea what it was.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Those early to mid 70s years in particular were a down period for Man U. They were even relegated in 74. By the early 80s, they had some FA cup success but nothing really in the league until Sir Alex.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I recall this being suggested in the movie, as Taylor didn't follow him to Leeds where he failed. There are also some good youtubes featuring some of his rants and the Clough/Revie stuff.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I had that part of the story, but I didn't realize Damned United was an old movie. Thought it was more recent.
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El Floppo
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I know what I meant!
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Sebowski
Footballguy
Someone on ESPNFC mentioned how it might not be a coincidence that AM is partly owned by a Chinese conglomerate.
Sebowski
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Kafka
Footballguy
This developing Chinese "dynamic" could be quite interesting...just read that one team made Zenit a 90 offer for Hulk, while another has offered PSG's Lavezzi 10 per yr wages...insanity. Whatever happened to the railroads?Attendance in the Chinese major league has inched past MLS and the tv money is increasing by leaps and bounds. What they're missing, oddly enough, is grass roots talent, even though there's so many of them. Chinese moms and dads steer their kids away from "wasting their time" pursuing sports seriously. They're really a fascinating new dynamic to world footy.Chinese clubs have been raiding Brazil for some time now - buying up youth as well as older players. Ramires, Gyan, Paulinho, Robinho, Ba, Montero and Eidur Gudjohnsen are all there, more to follow. For a player like Martinez, late 20's and not getting regular minutes in Spain, its an easy move.Kafka said:...don't forget Gervinho for $18 mil; God bless the godless Chinese.Poke_4_Life said:
Jackson Martinez to China for $45Mil Euro.
Guarin and Jackson Martinez on the way to China, Falcao may be next. Chinese are spending serious money.
Good business by Atletico getting $45mil for Martinez. He wasn't really doing much at Atletico.
