***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (3 Viewers)

[flysack]

So we can safely assume that since Jim ended up at his dad's house ALONE after puking at the bar that he didn't seal the deal with Skyler?

I'm gonna go ahead and say you're trying just a bit too hard

This clown always trys so hard.

Seriously. Everyone knows it's his brother, not his dad.

 

[flysack]

And put me in the camp that thinks that Tuco does not live with his grandmother. But if he did it wouldn't be out of character. We know from BB that, as batcrap as he is, he's got a strong sense of family.

I like this renewed devotion to the long con. Keep it up, Tanner.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Bottom line....Better call Saul and Breaking Bad go together like peanut butter and jelly.....they are ok on there own but WAY better together

 

[flysack]

Bottom line....Better call Saul and Breaking Bad go together like peanut butter and jelly.....they are ok on there own but WAY better together

Yea, I couldn't imagine BB without Better Call Saul. Who eats just jelly on bread?

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Curious how long til we get our 1st Walt or Jesse appearance.

It would be interesting to see an actor in his mid-30's playing an eighth-grader.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Tried making a rusty nail last night. Do not recommend. :X

he used way way way too much drambuie. it's supposed to be the amount of liquid that would equal the size of a small nail. hence the name.

I apologize in advance for continuing this hijack. I've never heard that origin story. Everything I've read suggests that the earliest recipes used quite a bit of Drambuie. For instance, here's Dale DeGroff on the drink.

 

[Thorn]

I gotta admit, my lone skepticism after the first show is that I thought the show was going to mail it in on all realism of its courtroom scenes (i.e. Law and Order: SVU where all trial scenes are a complete bastardization of how actual trials go and how the rules of evidence are applied). Without getting into the nuts and bolts of it, basically Saul's closing in the necro case was clearly objectionable (a defense attorney absolutely cannot argue potential consequences or openly seek nullification). It was also completely stupid strategy because there's no way any attorney would completely ignore the fact that the boys had sex with a corpse (although the prosecutor's response of merely playing the video was awesome). So, I was a little worried that the show would totally screw up actual criminal courtroom reality.

However, that montage was ####### awesome and totally killed any worry I had. Any solo practitioner banking on a public defense contract to make ends meet can relate to every scene in that montage. From the crappy courthouse bought coffee to the walking in the halls plea negotiations to the "yeah you're going to say none of that and sentencing and just apologize", it was just great.

Phew. That was my biggest concern with the show.

Hey, science people flipped out about the magnets. So, if he's going to portray a silver-tongued but downtrodden PD, I want it done right, dammit.

making it thoroughly accurate would make it boring as ####

 

[Zow]

Curious how long til we get our 1st Walt or Jesse appearance.

It would be interesting to see an actor in his mid-30's playing an eighth-grader.

Time machine, #####!

 

[AcerFC]

Never realized there was so much Tannerhate on this board

No, Im not new here

 

[flysack]

For a sec I almost bought that Chuck's condition might be physical and not psychosomatic. The guy looked like he was legitimately going to have a heart attack or stroke before he found the phone and threw it away.

What was that? A suspicion that the phone was in the house triggering a psychosomatic response? Weird. Chicken, egg.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Tried making a rusty nail last night. Do not recommend. :X

he used way way way too much drambuie. it's supposed to be the amount of liquid that would equal the size of a small nail. hence the name.

I apologize in advance for continuing this hijack. I've never heard that origin story. Everything I've read suggests that the earliest recipes used quite a bit of Drambuie. For instance, here's Dale DeGroff on the drink.

neat board. below is an excerpt from the article you linked. my bad always made sense in my wee brain

and the modern version is far drier, suggesting four parts whisky to one part liqueur.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

It was a weird bit of tension when Jimmy woke up after the hangover, and asked his brother where the cell phone was, and twice had to be told it was thrown outside. Soundtrack had a lawnmower running in the background, so I expected we'd see it chew up and spit out the phone, but that never paid off. Interesting take.

at least have to run in the sprinklers amirite?

 

[Courtjester]

I will say upfront I have not gotten all the way through BB yet. I was moving at a pretty good clip--(season 4 maybe??), but then the wife convinced me to go back and start over and watch it with her. Well, she is one of those people that if we can get one maybe two episodes in a week, we are doing really well. So at this pace it will be mid-2016 before we finish it.

That being said, watching the first two episodes and reading this tread, it really seems like this show is depending on fans of BB to carry it. I mean, I know everyone wants to be in on the bottom floor of the next "big" series, but it seems like the show is relying on "Hey, I know that guy" moments. It just hasn't drawn me in yet--maybe because I haven't finished BB, maybe another law show is just such plowed ground. I will give it a few more weeks, but other than a couple scenes (the courtroom and the desert) the show was kind of slow IMO.

 

[comfortably numb]

Curious how long til we get our 1st Walt or Jesse appearance.

It would be interesting to see an actor in his mid-30's playing an eighth-grader.

2 words and a few numbers

Luke Perry 90210

 

[JohnnyU]

I expect we will see Jesse soon and the drug lord from the fried chicken place. I doubt we will see Walter White in this series until toward the end.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Jesse Pinkman would probably be about 18,19,20 in the current Better Call Saul time frame.

 

[Cjw_55106]

I will say upfront I have not gotten all the way through BB yet. I was moving at a pretty good clip--(season 4 maybe??), but then the wife convinced me to go back and start over and watch it with her. Well, she is one of those people that if we can get one maybe two episodes in a week, we are doing really well. So at this pace it will be mid-2016 before we finish it.

That being said, watching the first two episodes and reading this tread, it really seems like this show is depending on fans of BB to carry it. I mean, I know everyone wants to be in on the bottom floor of the next "big" series, but it seems like the show is relying on "Hey, I know that guy" moments. It just hasn't drawn me in yet--maybe because I haven't finished BB, maybe another law show is just such plowed ground. I will give it a few more weeks, but other than a couple scenes (the courtroom and the desert) the show was kind of slow IMO.

If you are looking for a "law show", you may have come to the wrong place.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I expect we will see Jesse soon and the drug lord from the fried chicken place. I doubt we will see Walter White in this series until toward the end.

Jesse would be 17 or 18 at the time "Better Call Saul" takes place.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I don't think they've relied much at all on BB easter eggs. They've had Tuco, but it seems pretty clear that he was mostly a device to introduce Nacho as the main potential antagonist. I suppose the nail salon stuff is a bit of an in joke, as is the Cinnabon prelude. But most of the action is its own story. Chuck refusing the buyout. Jimmy's attempt to secure the Kettleman's business, Jimmy working at the PD practice.

 

[Thorn]

I don't think they've relied much at all on BB easter eggs. They've had Tuco, but it seems pretty clear that he was mostly a device to introduce Nacho as the main potential antagonist. I suppose the nail salon stuff is a bit of an in joke, as is the Cinnabon prelude. But most of the action is its own story. Chuck refusing the buyout. Jimmy's attempt to secure the Kettleman's business, Jimmy working at the PD practice.

the tension for Jimmy between playing it straight and trying to make a quick but illegal buck

 

[johnnycakes]

at Saul bargaining Tuco down from certain death to one broken leg each... "that's two broken legs! "

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

That being said, watching the first two episodes and reading this tread, it really seems like this show is depending on fans of BB to carry it. I mean, I know everyone wants to be in on the bottom floor of the next "big" series, but it seems like the show is relying on "Hey, I know that guy" moments. It just hasn't drawn me in yet--maybe because I haven't finished BB, maybe another law show is just such plowed ground. I will give it a few more weeks, but other than a couple scenes (the courtroom and the desert) the show was kind of slow IMO.

I think there's been very little of this in the actual show. Mostly just fans bull####ting in here afterwords that are making all those connections seem more important than they really are.

What makes the show different than most is most viewers already have a ton of background knowledge on the protagonist and some of the surrounding characters. But, isn't that what all spinoffs are like? Did people like Frasier less if they never watched Cheers?

 

[JohnnyU]

I expect we will see Jesse soon and the drug lord from the fried chicken place. I doubt we will see Walter White in this series until toward the end.

Jesse would be 17 or 18 at the time "Better Call Saul" takes place.

He was a young drug dealer in BB as well, so I can definitely see him coming into the picture soon.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

why do these threads always devolve into people making horrible predictions about what is going to happen next/soon?

 

[Capella]

why do these threads always devolve into people making horrible predictions about what is going to happen next/soon?

People like to pretend they are ahead of things or super smart or something. Like that guy who said he knew Tuco was coming at the end of episode 1 because of the old Mexican lady. /whack off smilie

 

[comfortably numb]

why do these threads always devolve into people making horrible predictions about what is going to happen next/soon?

I predicted you would say this back on page 3

 

[Slapdash]

why do these threads always devolve into people making horrible predictions about what is going to happen next/soon?

I predicted you would say this back on page 3

 

[Joe T]

Odenkirk is amazing. This show is going to be phenomenal.

why do these threads always devolve into people making horrible predictions about what is going to happen next/soon?

People like to pretend they are ahead of things or super smart or something. Like that guy who said he knew Tuco was coming at the end of episode 1 because of the old Mexican lady. /whack off smilie

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

For a sec I almost bought that Chuck's condition might be physical and not psychosomatic. The guy looked like he was legitimately going to have a heart attack or stroke before he found the phone and threw it away.

What was that? A suspicion that the phone was in the house triggering a psychosomatic response? Weird. Chicken, egg.

Chuck realized that Jimmy was drunk, and therefore less likely to have properly grounded himself. So it was natural for Chuck to suspect an electromagnetic presence. He probably has that kind of initial reaction plenty of times when there doesn't turn out to be a cell phone, too, but those are quickly forgotten.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

He keeps talking about "getting better", I'm not sure if it's just Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity/OCD/tinfoil-hat-ness, or, if he legitimately has something, like cancer, that he's blaming on cell phones and high-voltage wires.

Just electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

If he already had cancer, he probably wouldn't worry about cell phones so much. I mean, what's a cell phone going to do to him -- give him cancer?

(I'm paraphrasing Walter White when he joins Hank for a cigar early in season two. What's it going to do -- give him lung cancer?)

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

He keeps talking about "getting better", I'm not sure if it's just Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity/OCD/tinfoil-hat-ness, or, if he legitimately has something, like cancer, that he's blaming on cell phones and high-voltage wires.

Just electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

If he already had cancer, he probably wouldn't worry about cell phones so much. I mean, what's a cell phone going to do to him -- give him cancer?

(I'm paraphrasing Walter White when he joins Hank for a cigar early in season two. What's it going to do -- give him lung cancer?)

I bet he would be difficult to diagnose. I mean if he started exhibiting other symptoms it seems unlikely he would go into a hospital or Doctor's office for an MRI.

 

[mquinnjr]

I gotta admit, my lone skepticism after the first show is that I thought the show was going to mail it in on all realism of its courtroom scenes (i.e. Law and Order: SVU where all trial scenes are a complete bastardization of how actual trials go and how the rules of evidence are applied). Without getting into the nuts and bolts of it, basically Saul's closing in the necro case was clearly objectionable (a defense attorney absolutely cannot argue potential consequences or openly seek nullification). It was also completely stupid strategy because there's no way any attorney would completely ignore the fact that the boys had sex with a corpse (although the prosecutor's response of merely playing the video was awesome). So, I was a little worried that the show would totally screw up actual criminal courtroom reality.

However, that montage was ####### awesome and totally killed any worry I had. Any solo practitioner banking on a public defense contract to make ends meet can relate to every scene in that montage. From the crappy courthouse bought coffee to the walking in the halls plea negotiations to the "yeah you're going to say none of that and sentencing and just apologize", it was just great.

Isn't there a thread for your people?

Don't be afraid to turn your brain off for an hour when you watch BCS.

 

[flysack]

For a sec I almost bought that Chuck's condition might be physical and not psychosomatic. The guy looked like he was legitimately going to have a heart attack or stroke before he found the phone and threw it away.

What was that? A suspicion that the phone was in the house triggering a psychosomatic response? Weird. Chicken, egg.

Chuck realized that Jimmy was drunk, and therefore less likely to have properly grounded himself. So it was natural for Chuck to suspect an electromagnetic presence. He probably has that kind of initial reaction plenty of times when there doesn't turn out to be a cell phone, too, but those are quickly forgotten.

Fair enough. That's pretty much how I interpreted it.

Now on to some predictions....

 

[Capella]

Odenkirk is amazing. This show is going to be phenomenal.

why do these threads always devolve into people making horrible predictions about what is going to happen next/soon?

People like to pretend they are ahead of things or super smart or something. Like that guy who said he knew Tuco was coming at the end of episode 1 because of the old Mexican lady. /whack off smilie

Yea but I was actually right here

 

[Zow]

at Saul bargaining Tuco down from certain death to one broken leg each... "that's two broken legs! "

The "i just took it from life to six months probation" line afterwards was awesomely spot on.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

You guys know that there really isn't any medical evidence to support "electromagnetic sensitivity" right?

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

[spaceblanket]

You guys know that there really isn't any medical evidence to support "electromagnetic sensitivity" right?

[/spaceblanket]

 

[Wingnut]

Not completely ruling it out...but how many coke dealers live with their grandmother.

(i.e. not really sure how much it matters at this point, but just making a point )

how do you know that he lives there? drug dealers might visit their grandmother on occasion. might even cook them a meal.

Yeah that was my impression. I think at one point, when he calls his boys, he says something like "I'm at my abuelitas...". That to me suggests that he doesn't actually live there but visits often since he didn't have to provide an address.

But in the desert he says "They walked into MY house! They disrespected my abuelita! They called her biznatch!"So maybe he owns it but she lives there.

 

[popsecret]

Anyone else check it out yet? I liked both episodes so far

 

[kentric]

Anyone else check it out yet? I liked both episodes so far

Nope. Nothing to see here. Please move along.

Got to love a p.14 post asking if anyone checked it out.

Well struck sir.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Anyone else check it out yet? I liked both episodes so far

yes. Please weigh in on the following:

Cinnabon Sequence: Dream +500 or No Dream -175

Does Tuco live with his Abuelita: Yes +275 or No -200

What kinds of drugs does Tuco/Nacho deal: Meth +130 Cocaine +125 Weed +200 Field +250

 

[BustedKnuckles]

[spaceblanket]

You guys know that there really isn't any medical evidence to support "electromagnetic sensitivity" right?

[/spaceblanket]

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

You guys know that there really isn't any medical evidence to support "electromagnetic sensitivity" right?

Of which you are aware.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

You guys know that there really isn't any medical evidence to support "electromagnetic sensitivity" right?

Of which you are aware.

Good point.

 

[Joe T]

Is this #### on Netflix yet?

 

[popsecret]

Is this #### on Netflix yet?

AMC is showing all the episodes for free online for the first month

 

[Fariq]

Never realized there was so much Tannerhate on this board

No, Im not new here

Who is Tanner? Is he the fat Mexican in the desert perhaps?

 

[CGRdrJoe]

why do these threads always devolve into people making horrible predictions about what is going to happen next/soon?

sharkpool down???

 

[Zow]

I gotta admit, my lone skepticism after the first show is that I thought the show was going to mail it in on all realism of its courtroom scenes (i.e. Law and Order: SVU where all trial scenes are a complete bastardization of how actual trials go and how the rules of evidence are applied). Without getting into the nuts and bolts of it, basically Saul's closing in the necro case was clearly objectionable (a defense attorney absolutely cannot argue potential consequences or openly seek nullification). It was also completely stupid strategy because there's no way any attorney would completely ignore the fact that the boys had sex with a corpse (although the prosecutor's response of merely playing the video was awesome). So, I was a little worried that the show would totally screw up actual criminal courtroom reality.

However, that montage was ####### awesome and totally killed any worry I had. Any solo practitioner banking on a public defense contract to make ends meet can relate to every scene in that montage. From the crappy courthouse bought coffee to the walking in the halls plea negotiations to the "yeah you're going to say none of that and sentencing and just apologize", it was just great.

Isn't there a thread for your people?

Don't be afraid to turn your brain off for an hour when you watch BCS.

I just have a sheer hatred for shows which portray this stuff really poorly.

I have had similar exchanges to these:

Woz (to Defendant's family): So, procedurally speaking, the state will likely make an offer in the next week or two...

Defendant's wife: They will? When does he get to meet with the prosecutor and the cop who arrested him? He wants to tell them a few things and we want to be there.

Woz: That's a terrible idea and isn't going to happen.

Defendant's wife: But that's how they always do it on Law and Order. Those are his rights.

Woz: That's a TV show.

Defendant's wife:

Woz:

Defendant's father: I want you to bring up the fact that the cop testifying against has been divorced twice and is rumored to drink a lot.

Woz: The rules of evidence won't allow me to do that and I'd get in trouble. Plus that looks really petty.

Defendant's father: Can't you just ask it and quickly withdraw it when the prosecutor objects?

Woz:

Defendant's mother: I want you to tell the jury how going to jail will cause a huge inconvenience in my son's life and that he's not a bad guy and is really sorry.

Woz: I can't argue anything about his potential punishment. The rules won't allow it. Also, I'm not going to apologize for him because that's basically an admission that he committed the crime. Which is all the jury is going to be instructed that they have to decide. So I'd be the worse lawyer ever if I apologize on his behalf in closing.

Defendant's mother: But Saul did it and he's awesome!

Any time I see stuff on TV which promotes or plants these ridiculous notions in people's heads, I can't help but get perturbed.

 

[Thorn]

I gotta admit, my lone skepticism after the first show is that I thought the show was going to mail it in on all realism of its courtroom scenes (i.e. Law and Order: SVU where all trial scenes are a complete bastardization of how actual trials go and how the rules of evidence are applied). Without getting into the nuts and bolts of it, basically Saul's closing in the necro case was clearly objectionable (a defense attorney absolutely cannot argue potential consequences or openly seek nullification). It was also completely stupid strategy because there's no way any attorney would completely ignore the fact that the boys had sex with a corpse (although the prosecutor's response of merely playing the video was awesome). So, I was a little worried that the show would totally screw up actual criminal courtroom reality.

However, that montage was ####### awesome and totally killed any worry I had. Any solo practitioner banking on a public defense contract to make ends meet can relate to every scene in that montage. From the crappy courthouse bought coffee to the walking in the halls plea negotiations to the "yeah you're going to say none of that and sentencing and just apologize", it was just great.

Isn't there a thread for your people?

Don't be afraid to turn your brain off for an hour when you watch BCS.

I just have a sheer hatred for shows which portray this stuff really poorly.

I have had similar exchanges to these:

Woz (to Defendant's family): So, procedurally speaking, the state will likely make an offer in the next week or two...

Defendant's wife: They will? When does he get to meet with the prosecutor and the cop who arrested him? He wants to tell them a few things and we want to be there.

Woz: That's a terrible idea and isn't going to happen.

Defendant's wife: But that's how they always do it on Law and Order. Those are his rights.

Woz: That's a TV show.

Defendant's wife:

Woz:

Defendant's father: I want you to bring up the fact that the cop testifying against has been divorced twice and is rumored to drink a lot.

Woz: The rules of evidence won't allow me to do that and I'd get in trouble. Plus that looks really petty.

Defendant's father: Can't you just ask it and quickly withdraw it when the prosecutor objects?

Woz:

Defendant's mother: I want you to tell the jury how going to jail will cause a huge inconvenience in my son's life and that he's not a bad guy and is really sorry.

Woz: I can't argue anything about his potential punishment. The rules won't allow it. Also, I'm not going to apologize for him because that's basically an admission that he committed the crime. Which is all the jury is going to be instructed that they have to decide. So I'd be the worse lawyer ever if I apologize on his behalf in closing.

Defendant's mother: But Saul did it and he's awesome!

Any time I see stuff on TV which promotes or plants these ridiculous notions in people's heads, I can't help but get perturbed.

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