***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (9 Viewers)

[Disco Stu]

Abraham and Eugene

 

[kentric]

Is it just me or do people care more about seeing Maggie, Tara and Rosita than where the story is going?

Not me but I'm definitely appreciative that there's been a serious increase in the Babe factor.That said, Rosita bending over was one of the few things about the last episode that I thought was all that memorable.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-38175-rosita-hot-###-gif-Walking-Dea-zmVh.gif

Lol...been trying like crazy to find that. Good job

She needs to "drop" something in every episode.

I've got the perfect move for her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqUQQPz9vFo

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

most likely you're right, but I thought they would have given this guy more than 5 seconds of face time. not that he's a big name, but he's recognizable.

 

[packersfan]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

most likely you're right, but I thought they would have given this guy more than 5 seconds of face time. not that he's a big name, but he's recognizable.

That seems to be a common sentiment. I didn't recognize him (not that it means anything) and based on his IMDB, it's not like he's in hot demand lately. So he could've taken the small role and been done with it.

 

[phatdawg]

Is it just me or do people care more about seeing Maggie, Tara and Rosita than where the story is going?

Not me but I'm definitely appreciative that there's been a serious increase in the Babe factor.That said, Rosita bending over was one of the few things about the last episode that I thought was all that memorable.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-38175-rosita-hot-###-gif-Walking-Dea-zmVh.gif

Sadly, that the was highlight of the episode.

Nothing sad about it!

 

[flapgreen]

Is it just me or do people care more about seeing Maggie, Tara and Rosita than where the story is going?

Not me but I'm definitely appreciative that there's been a serious increase in the Babe factor.That said, Rosita bending over was one of the few things about the last episode that I thought was all that memorable.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-38175-rosita-hot-###-gif-Walking-Dea-zmVh.gif

Sadly, that the was highlight of the episode.

Nothing sad about it!

Good point!

 

[shadyridr]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

most likely you're right, but I thought they would have given this guy more than 5 seconds of face time. not that he's a big name, but he's recognizable.

I cant believe they gave world famous jeff kober more than 5 seconds of face time. WTF is Jeff kober

 

[FreeBaGeL]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

most likely you're right, but I thought they would have given this guy more than 5 seconds of face time. not that he's a big name, but he's recognizable.

I cant believe they gave world famous jeff kober more than 5 seconds of face time. WTF is Jeff kober

The mayor on Sons of Anarchy.

ETA: I don't think people are bringing it up because he wouldn't do the show unless he were some kind of big character, but rather by the fact that the character he played was essentially an extra. There wasn't really any need to bring ANYONE in for that role, they could have had one of the zombie extras do it before putting on their makeup.

The casting choice aside, I did get the impression that his group was just there to keep Rick and crew moving and not reoccur at any point.

 

[tdoss]

Just want to be sure I understand...Rick kills one of their guys and they know there's a female involved...they're just gonna shrug it off and not show up again?

How is that not yet another big hole left by the writers? Don't get me wrong... The writers definitely have it in them to pull this crap and leave it open but I refuse to believe they did.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Just want to be sure I understand...Rick kills one of their guys and they know there's a female involved...they're just gonna shrug it off and not show up again?

How is that not yet another big hole left by the writers? Don't get me wrong... The writers definitely have it in them to pull this crap and leave it open but I refuse to believe they did.

They have no idea where they went, how many of them there were, etc. Rick and crew are long gone.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Not pertaining to the current storyline, but a question I've had from the story... How is it that once you die, you turn into a zombie, suggesting there is already a infection, but bitten you turn immediately? If you die without being bitten, and turn into a zombie, that means the infection was already in you right?

 

[packersfan]

Just want to be sure I understand...Rick kills one of their guys and they know there's a female involved...they're just gonna shrug it off and not show up again?

How is that not yet another big hole left by the writers? Don't get me wrong... The writers definitely have it in them to pull this crap and leave it open but I refuse to believe they did.

They have no idea where they went, how many of them there were, etc. Rick and crew are long gone.

Not to mention the very real possibility all of them are now dead.

Like I said before I think the next time we see them it will be with the Russian in the woods.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Not pertaining to the current storyline, but a question I've had from the story... How is it that once you die, you turn into a zombie, suggesting there is already a infection, but bitten you turn immediately? If you die without being bitten, and turn into a zombie, that means the infection was already in you right?

Oh man, there have been some long discussions on this.

Yes, everyone is a carrier. That leaves two sides of the argument on this.

1) Being bitten either speeds along or activates the infection, which turns you.

2) Being bitten by a walker doesn't do anything differently than being bitten by a person with a dirty mouth normally would, and the bitten people are just dying from the infection of a dirty wound. At that point they turn because they're dead.

Personally I think that the people who have been bitten have turned WAY too fast for it to be from option #2, but there are some that will defend it to the death.

 

[wlwiles]

Not pertaining to the current storyline, but a question I've had from the story... How is it that once you die, you turn into a zombie, suggesting there is already a infection, but bitten you turn immediately? If you die without being bitten, and turn into a zombie, that means the infection was already in you right?

Lori's death made me curious about something else though. She died giving birth (blood loss), but that whole sequence showed that it's possible for walkers to eat an entire body, thereby leaving no new walker from the deceased. So it appears that if you die (by any means), if multiple walkers can get to you before you turn, they should (theoretically) consume you entirely. This would mean that the Governor should have been devoured by the swarm, and not have a chance to turn.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

The dude that was on the porch is a classic "That-Guy", so I'm guessing we see them again.

 

[tonydead]

Yeah, I mean after being choked, they guy had a death stare for crying out loud.

Thanks for confirming you don't watch tv too good. He was snoring for Christ sake.

lol mowed grass.

My ##### this week: army truck can't just push cars out of the way?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Yeah, I mean after being choked, they guy had a death stare for crying out loud.

Thanks for confirming you don't watch tv too good. He was snoring for Christ sake.

lol mowed grass.

My ##### this week: army truck can't just push cars out of the way?

It was the guy on the bed that was snoring.

 

[flapgreen]

Yeah

 

[stbugs]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

The dude that was on the porch is a classic "That-Guy", so I'm guessing we see them again.

Not really. Go look at his resume on IMDB, it is littered with one episode appearances on TV shows. They showed him so quickly that IMHO it meant he wasn't important enough to stay focused on him. I think if we were planned to be on more, we would have seen a scene with him in the house so they could "introduce" him more. He got no more than a zombie kill.

 

[shadyridr]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

The dude that was on the porch is a classic "That-Guy", so I'm guessing we see them again.

Not really. Go look at his resume on IMDB, it is littered with one episode appearances on TV shows. They showed him so quickly that IMHO it meant he wasn't important enough to stay focused on him. I think if we were planned to be on more, we would have seen a scene with him in the house so they could "introduce" him more. He got no more than a zombie kill.

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[El Floppo]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

The dude that was on the porch is a classic "That-Guy", so I'm guessing we see them again.

Not really. Go look at his resume on IMDB, it is littered with one episode appearances on TV shows. They showed him so quickly that IMHO it meant he wasn't important enough to stay focused on him. I think if we were planned to be on more, we would have seen a scene with him in the house so they could "introduce" him more. He got no more than a zombie kill.

this

I don't really know or care, but... the writers/director made such a point of not showing anybody's faces from that gang, that by lingering even for a moment on that one guy's face, I'd think they have plans for him- or else, why bother? Same goes for the ball-throwing guy... unless the repeated noise was just a vehicle for creating suspense to a guy trapped under a bed- and I wound't put that past the writers.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Not pertaining to the current storyline, but a question I've had from the story... How is it that once you die, you turn into a zombie, suggesting there is already a infection, but bitten you turn immediately? If you die without being bitten, and turn into a zombie, that means the infection was already in you right?

Oh man, there have been some long discussions on this.

Yes, everyone is a carrier. That leaves two sides of the argument on this.

1) Being bitten either speeds along or activates the infection, which turns you.

2) Being bitten by a walker doesn't do anything differently than being bitten by a person with a dirty mouth normally would, and the bitten people are just dying from the infection of a dirty wound. At that point they turn because they're dead.

Personally I think that the people who have been bitten have turned WAY too fast for it to be from option #2, but there are some that will defend it to the death.

Here is my theory:

The virus feeds on something renewed by a living host, blood, or something in the blood or flesh. When the virus is no longer getting whatever that something is (dead host) is takes over the host and treks out to find and ingest this material the dead host can no longer provide. Once alerted to the lack of live tissue or whatever, the virus must act quickly because the craving for this live material is unbearable. So by design, once 1 microbe of the virus is alerted to a dead host, a switch is tripped that sets off a chain reaction to the other microbes, so they can act swiftly. Once that switch has been tripped, there is no turning back. So when a live human has been infected by the dead human, the microbes who have already been set off, in the dead human come into contact with those who have not, in the live human, and the chain reaction happens there again. The chain reaction happens by one 'starving turned angry' microbe coming into contact with another, and a signal is transferred. So if you break that chain by cutting off a limb before the signal is sent to the happy microbes in the rest of the body, you are ok..

So, it's not about catching the virus, we all already have it. It's about keeping your virus well feed and happy. Zombies are full of angry starved microbes, if you are living/non-Zombie, your microbes are well feed and happy. And your happy microbes have not come into contact with unhappy/starving ones.

 

[stbugs]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

The dude that was on the porch is a classic "That-Guy", so I'm guessing we see them again.

Not really. Go look at his resume on IMDB, it is littered with one episode appearances on TV shows. They showed him so quickly that IMHO it meant he wasn't important enough to stay focused on him. I think if we were planned to be on more, we would have seen a scene with him in the house so they could "introduce" him more. He got no more than a zombie kill.

this

I don't really know or care, but... the writers/director made such a point of not showing anybody's faces from that gang, that by lingering even for a moment on that one guy's face, I'd think they have plans for him- or else, why bother? Same goes for the ball-throwing guy... unless the repeated noise was just a vehicle for creating suspense to a guy trapped under a bed- and I wound't put that past the writers.

Wasn't that guy ball throwing guy? I thought I recall him bouncing it while Rick was below the porch and then he sat down on the railing.

 

[Parrothead]

we all know that once Rick and the gang make it to sanctuary, the episode will end with Rick relaxing on a porch swing when all of a sudden he hears a ball bouncing and realizes who it is.. cut to credits..

 

[optionmaven]

I enjoy the show. Didn't watch the 1st season live (watched it all on demand after season). What they've done has been good, but the show, on the whole, would be much better if they showed things leading up to the apocalypse, why the apocalypse happened, where it started, etc, etc, etc. I remember questioning this and wondering why after watching the 1st season. Perhaps the sets would be more costly making it a financial thing? I don't know, I just know the show would be better if they gave us little snippets of what happened to cause this.

 

[(HULK)]

I enjoy the show. Didn't watch the 1st season live (watched it all on demand after season). What they've done has been good, but the show, on the whole, would be much better if they showed things leading up to the apocalypse, why the apocalypse happened, where it started, etc, etc, etc. I remember questioning this and wondering why after watching the 1st season. Perhaps the sets would be more costly making it a financial thing? I don't know, I just know the show would be better if they gave us little snippets of what happened to cause this.

They don't do it because of the cost.

Also, it is pretty unbelievable that a zombie plague of slow walking zombies would actually work. No way they would overrun the army.

 

[Parrothead]

I enjoy the show. Didn't watch the 1st season live (watched it all on demand after season). What they've done has been good, but the show, on the whole, would be much better if they showed things leading up to the apocalypse, why the apocalypse happened, where it started, etc, etc, etc. I remember questioning this and wondering why after watching the 1st season. Perhaps the sets would be more costly making it a financial thing? I don't know, I just know the show would be better if they gave us little snippets of what happened to cause this.

They don't do it because of the cost.

Also, it is pretty unbelievable that a zombie plague of slow walking zombies would actually work. No way they would overrun the army.

unless it started out as an airborne virus (like The Stand) turning most into walkers while those who were resistant to the virus stayed human (until they died or were killed)..

 

[stbugs]

I enjoy the show. Didn't watch the 1st season live (watched it all on demand after season). What they've done has been good, but the show, on the whole, would be much better if they showed things leading up to the apocalypse, why the apocalypse happened, where it started, etc, etc, etc. I remember questioning this and wondering why after watching the 1st season. Perhaps the sets would be more costly making it a financial thing? I don't know, I just know the show would be better if they gave us little snippets of what happened to cause this.

They don't do it because of the cost.

Also, it is pretty unbelievable that a zombie plague of slow walking zombies would actually work. No way they would overrun the army.

They weren't all slow moving. I know the "climbing" wasn't supposed to happen, but we have seen that earlier in the show and recently (guy at railroad) that recent turns tend to be a bit stronger/faster. In the beginning, you would think they would be harder to deal with, whereas months and months later the walkers they meet up with have been wandering for a while. Pure physics wise, they have to "decay" somewhat without any new energy coming in. I know they don't "eat" and gain energy, so again, unless it is a recent turn, the zombies at this point are much easier to deal with than the original plague.

That said, I do agree that in the real world a zombie plague would be hard to see happen, without it being like 28 days later/World War Z. The only thing this thing has going for it is that everyone is a carrier, so every single dead person would turn. There are a lot of idiots out there that would jump on things like this (see any past disaster/looting/riot) and in those murders/deaths, those idiots would create more zombies and have no idea that they did it and of course get more people killed and so on.

 

[El Floppo]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

The dude that was on the porch is a classic "That-Guy", so I'm guessing we see them again.

Not really. Go look at his resume on IMDB, it is littered with one episode appearances on TV shows. They showed him so quickly that IMHO it meant he wasn't important enough to stay focused on him. I think if we were planned to be on more, we would have seen a scene with him in the house so they could "introduce" him more. He got no more than a zombie kill.

this

I don't really know or care, but... the writers/director made such a point of not showing anybody's faces from that gang, that by lingering even for a moment on that one guy's face, I'd think they have plans for him- or else, why bother? Same goes for the ball-throwing guy... unless the repeated noise was just a vehicle for creating suspense to a guy trapped under a bed- and I wound't put that past the writers.

Wasn't that guy ball throwing guy? I thought I recall him bouncing it while Rick was below the porch and then he sat down on the railing.

I think so, but dunno... I'm one of the people who don't pay that much attention to the details in this.

if it is, lends more credence to the people saying that Rick will bump into ball-thrower and his balls in sanctuary/terminus/happy-land.

 

[cstu]

They don't do it because of the cost.

If only this show was successful and making a lot of money.

 

[packersfan]

Are we sure it's just a cost issue? Do the comics focus on these things? I know the show isn't matching up with the comics entirely but the comics are a blueprint. If Kirkman hasn't been interested in exploring these issues in this world I'm not sure we'll see much of it on the show either.

I don't mind flashbacks personally but I don't want see a lot of them. If they are going to be done I'd prefer they were utilized creatively like with Michonne's flashback/dream three episodes ago.

 

[snogger]

Are we sure it's just a cost issue? Do the comics focus on these things? I know the show isn't matching up with the comics entirely but the comics are a blueprint. If Kirkman hasn't been interested in exploring these issues in this world I'm not sure we'll see much of it on the show either.

I don't mind flashbacks personally but I don't want see a lot of them. If they are going to be done I'd prefer they were utilized creatively like with Michonne's flashback/dream three episodes ago.

Up to the prison part ( as far as I've read into the comics) there has been zero talk on the why or how..

Maybe the spinoff in 2015 will delve into that

 

[(HULK)]

AMC is notoriously cheap. Its almost buried both this show and Madmen several times by being super tight with the cash. In fact, its the reason Darabont was run out, he wanted to do some more expensive shows, like one that followed the guy who Rick grabbed the grenade from in season 1 from the start of the zombie outbreak up until Rick picks the grenade from his zombie corpse. They actually had a somewhat famous actor (I forget who) play that zombie because they intended to do it the whole time. Instead, AMC forced them to do a whole season at Herschel's farm because it was a cheap location.

It is well known that AMC's brass are top flight idiots who don't properly foster their shows. Mad Men BARELY made it back, it was almost killed entirely, for similar reasons. Place is run by clowns, but they happened to luckbox their way into a few good shows.

 

[packersfan]

I recall reading Darabont's ideas for the start of Season 2. I'm glad they got axed. They sounded awful in my opinion.

 

[packersfan]

Are we sure it's just a cost issue? Do the comics focus on these things? I know the show isn't matching up with the comics entirely but the comics are a blueprint. If Kirkman hasn't been interested in exploring these issues in this world I'm not sure we'll see much of it on the show either.

I don't mind flashbacks personally but I don't want see a lot of them. If they are going to be done I'd prefer they were utilized creatively like with Michonne's flashback/dream three episodes ago.

Up to the prison part ( as far as I've read into the comics) there has been zero talk on the why or how..

That's what I thought. I seem to recall Kirkman saying he had no real interest in exploring that. That doesn't preclude the show from doing it of course.

 

[dhockster]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

most likely you're right, but I thought they would have given this guy more than 5 seconds of face time. not that he's a big name, but he's recognizable.

I cant believe they gave world famous jeff kober more than 5 seconds of face time. WTF is Jeff kober

The mayor on Sons of Anarchy.

ETA: I don't think people are bringing it up because he wouldn't do the show unless he were some kind of big character, but rather by the fact that the character he played was essentially an extra. There wasn't really any need to bring ANYONE in for that role, they could have had one of the zombie extras do it before putting on their makeup.

The casting choice aside, I did get the impression that his group was just there to keep Rick and crew moving and not reoccur at any point.

 

[(HULK)]

I recall reading Darabont's ideas for the start of Season 2. I'm glad they got axed. They sounded awful in my opinion.

Come on now, it would've been better than 10 episodes of walking around the woods looking for Sofia and not finding her. The first 1/2 of season two was the lowpoint of this show. By far.

 

[cstu]

Are we sure it's just a cost issue? Do the comics focus on these things? I know the show isn't matching up with the comics entirely but the comics are a blueprint. If Kirkman hasn't been interested in exploring these issues in this world I'm not sure we'll see much of it on the show either.

I don't mind flashbacks personally but I don't want see a lot of them. If they are going to be done I'd prefer they were utilized creatively like with Michonne's flashback/dream three episodes ago.

All of the producers on the show have complained about the budget. AMC even forced the show to film 50% indoor/50% outdoor because it's cheap to film indoor. That's why you see have an episode wasted with Rick under a bed or talking to Carl on the porch for 10 minutes before he leaves.

 

[packersfan]

I recall reading Darabont's ideas for the start of Season 2. I'm glad they got axed. They sounded awful in my opinion.

Come on now, it would've been better than 10 episodes of walking around the woods looking for Sofia and not finding her. The first 1/2 of season two was the lowpoint of this show. By far.

Strongly disagree. Were it not for the first half of the season everything that occurred starting with Sofia walking out of the barn wouldn't have carried anywhere near the power it did.

Season 2 remains the best season of the series so far in my opinion. I think the writers/producers did a great job of methodically telling the story they wanted to tell in the first half before blowing the roof off the joint in the second half of the season.

And cstu, I'm aware of AMC's penny pinching rep. I'm just saying that cheapness may not be the primary reason why the show hasn't explored flashbacks and what caused the outbreak etc. It could very well be a creative decision based on the direction Kirkman has gone in the comics. I recall Glenn Mazzara saying he hated flashbacks which is likely one reason why we only saw one of them when he was the showrunner.

 

[tdoss]

I don't think they have a reasonable idea as to how this spread and took everything out without the military and CDC getting a handle on it.

 

[Parrothead]

I don't think they have a reasonable idea as to how this spread and took everything out without the military and CDC getting a handle on it.

My opinion in this is: It hit suddenly as a virus, killing off 90% of people who come back as walkers.. the military would be decimated and those who survive the initial 'virus' are out numbered and in a panic..

 

[tdoss]

I don't think they have a reasonable idea as to how this spread and took everything out without the military and CDC getting a handle on it.

My opinion in this is: It hit suddenly as a virus, killing off 90% of people who come back as walkers.. the military would be decimated and those who survive the initial 'virus' are out numbered and in a panic..

Just trying to follow...you're saying the virus hit suddenly and killed 90% of our current walker pop?

So the virus kills most...and the remaining pop of living are just carriers?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I don't think they have a reasonable idea as to how this spread and took everything out without the military and CDC getting a handle on it.

My opinion in this is: It hit suddenly as a virus, killing off 90% of people who come back as walkers.. the military would be decimated and those who survive the initial 'virus' are out numbered and in a panic..

Just trying to follow...you're saying the virus hit suddenly and killed 90% of our current walker pop?

So the virus kills most...and the remaining pop of living are just carriers?

Seems a reasonable theory.. There doesn't seem to be many people left alive, a major fatality rate would explain that.

 

[tdoss]

I don't think they have a reasonable idea as to how this spread and took everything out without the military and CDC getting a handle on it.

My opinion in this is: It hit suddenly as a virus, killing off 90% of people who come back as walkers.. the military would be decimated and those who survive the initial 'virus' are out numbered and in a panic..

Just trying to follow...you're saying the virus hit suddenly and killed 90% of our current walker pop?So the virus kills most...and the remaining pop of living are just carriers?

Seems a reasonable theory.. There doesn't seem to be many people left alive, a major fatality rate would explain that.

Sure...just making sure I understood the theory.

 

[shadyridr]

We will absolutely see them again...that's why the guy saw Rick and then was choked out...the writers wanted this group to hunt Rick and crew down...we won't be rid of them for a while.

It may have simply been done to create more tension for the scene... Is he going to say something before he gets choked out? Will he wake up before Rick can get out?

"Rick hiding under the bed" sounds boring, but it was pretty tense. My wife was definitely on edge.

My two cents is that we're done with those guys.

The dude that was on the porch is a classic "That-Guy", so I'm guessing we see them again.

Not really. Go look at his resume on IMDB, it is littered with one episode appearances on TV shows. They showed him so quickly that IMHO it meant he wasn't important enough to stay focused on him. I think if we were planned to be on more, we would have seen a scene with him in the house so they could "introduce" him more. He got no more than a zombie kill.

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I don't really know or care, but... the writers/director made such a point of not showing anybody's faces from that gang, that by lingering even for a moment on that one guy's face, I'd think they have plans for him- or else, why bother? Same goes for the ball-throwing guy... unless the repeated noise was just a vehicle for creating suspense to a guy trapped under a bed- and I wound't put that past the writers.

Wasn't that guy ball throwing guy? I thought I recall him bouncing it while Rick was below the porch and then he sat down on the railing.

I think so, but dunno... I'm one of the people who don't pay that much attention to the details in this.if it is, lends more credence to the people saying that Rick will bump into ball-thrower and his balls in sanctuary/terminus/happy-land.

such a recognizable face and yet you couldnt recognize him from earlier in the episode

 

[SacramentoBob]

I don't think how it started is all that relevant. Maybe if this were a movie and you were looking to satisfy the audience at the end, but I don't care one way or the other here. Look at how terrible and forced the "reveal" in Contagion was.

 

[Parrothead]

I don't think they have a reasonable idea as to how this spread and took everything out without the military and CDC getting a handle on it.

My opinion in this is: It hit suddenly as a virus, killing off 90% of people who come back as walkers.. the military would be decimated and those who survive the initial 'virus' are out numbered and in a panic..

Just trying to follow...you're saying the virus hit suddenly and killed 90% of our current walker pop?

So the virus kills most...and the remaining pop of living are just carriers?

yep.. it happens so fast that the survivors are unprepared to deal with it

 

[stbugs]

I don't think how it started is all that relevant. Maybe if this were a movie and you were looking to satisfy the audience at the end, but I don't care one way or the other here. Look at how terrible and forced the "reveal" in Contagion was.

Agreed. While it could make some cool episodes, it would be more like a movie. I think you open up so many more questions and issues. At this point, we have been given the lore and just have to accept how it works. If you can't accept that and need back story on it, you would probably not be satisfied with the answers they give.

 

[El Floppo]

I don't think they have a reasonable idea as to how this spread and took everything out without the military and CDC getting a handle on it.

My opinion in this is: It hit suddenly as a virus, killing off 90% of people who come back as walkers.. the military would be decimated and those who survive the initial 'virus' are out numbered and in a panic..

Just trying to follow...you're saying the virus hit suddenly and killed 90% of our current walker pop?

So the virus kills most...and the remaining pop of living are just carriers?

yep.. it happens so fast that the survivors are unprepared to deal with it

and so it begins...

Embalmers find man alive and kicking in body bagDoug Stanglin, USA TODAY12:08 p.m. EST February 28, 2014
A corner had declared him dead after taking his pulse

Workers at a Mississippi funeral home found an elderly man alive and kicking in a zipped-up body bag as they were preparing to embalm him, theClarion-Ledger reports.

Walter Williams, a 78-year-old farmer who had been pronounced dead at his home Wednesday night by a coroner, woke up inside the bag at the Porter and Sons Funeral Home in Lexington, Miss., about five hours later.

"I asked the coroner what happened, and the only thing he could say is that it's a miracle," said Holmes County Sheriff Willie March,

Coroner Dexter Howard had declared Williams dead after checking his pulse.

"I did my part in checking him, I filed my paperwork, and we were ready to make the removal," Howard said. "We got him to the funeral home, and into the embalming room and noticed the kicking, and he began to breathe."

Williams' nephew, Eddie Hester, told WAPT-TV that he "stood there and watched them put him in a body bag and zipped it up."

After he became animated inside the bag, paramedics rushed Williams to a hospital.

"I don't know how long he's going to be here, but I know he's back right now. That's all that matters," Hester told WAPT.

The coroner said Williams' pacemaker may have stopped working and then started up again.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I don't think how it started is all that relevant. Maybe if this were a movie and you were looking to satisfy the audience at the end, but I don't care one way or the other here. Look at how terrible and forced the "reveal" in Contagion was.

Agreed. While it could make some cool episodes, it would be more like a movie. I think you open up so many more questions and issues. At this point, we have been given the lore and just have to accept how it works. If you can't accept that and need back story on it, you would probably not be satisfied with the answers they give.

I personally don't "need" a back story, it's just a fun aspect of the story to ponder and discuss.