***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (7 Viewers)

[packersfan]

The raining zombies scene was awesome. Sorry but in a zombie show sometimes I just wanna see some cool chit without thinking about whether it could actually happen in a zombie world or not. At the end of the day, this is still entertainment for me and that scene entertained the hell outta me. I loved it.

 

[TenTimes]

I love all the #####ing about having to suspend disbelief in watching a show about zombies.

if rick started flying and shot laser beams out of his eyes and blasted a mega loud Carrrrrrrrrl roar to wipe out all the walkers in his area would that be cool with you?

You didn't want to keep this idea for yourself??!

 

[TenTimes]

The raining zombies scene was awesome. Sorry but in a zombie show sometimes I just wanna see some cool chit without thinking about whether it could actually happen in a zombie world or not. At the end of the day, this is still entertainment for me and that scene entertained the hell outta me. I loved it.

Z-Nation tv show

 

[skol asylum]

It's van flipping bad...

Are you referring to when the van slowly roles off the bridge and then somehow does a complete 360 and lands on it's wheels after a 30 foot drop? Totally forgot about that.

Got me there. That was turrible.

 

[shadyridr]

I know youre not supposed to laugh at your own jokes but I cant stop giggling about a Carl sonic boom. Someone needs to make a gif

 

[El Floppo]

I know youre not supposed to laugh at your own jokes but I cant stop giggling about a Carl sonic boom. Someone needs to make a gif

kinda looks like Rick.

 

[tdoss]

Didn't XMEN have a dude that screeches while flying?

Put Rick's face on that dude and gif it up.

 

[El Floppo]

Didn't XMEN have a dude that screeches while flying?

Put Rick's face on that dude and gif it up.

what about on the amazing mr limpet?

 

[tommyboy]

i would gladly watch a show about rick with laser beams from his eyes blasting away at zombies and screaming CARRRRRRLLLLLL

 

[snogger]

For me it's always come down to whether a story development is so egregious it totally ruins the show for me. In 4-plus seasons that's never happened. That's not to say I think this show is perfect and every episode has been perfect. It just means that most of the things I see people complaining the most about are things that are often extraordinarily trivial when it comes to my overall enjoyment of the show.

I will say I don't think the writing is anywhere near as bad as some here insist. So I acknowledge I go into each show thinking of it far more positively than some here do each week.

The magic barn ruined it for me.

what was so "magical" to you... that it was left standing while the woods outside were destroyed?If so then there is nothing "magical" about it.. happens almost every year up here where a tornado will destroy almost entire neighborhoods and yet a house or two will be left standing with very little damage.

Provide me a link to your example and I'll help show you where the physics as compared to the Walking Dead example breaks down.

Posting this from my kindle which is a *itch do things like this but the first link I found searching for "house left standing after a tornado"http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614564-1D6E10E100000578-261_964x629.jpg

 

[Loan Sharks]

I love all the #####ing about having to suspend disbelief in watching a show about zombies.

oh really like you can explain why there isn't a single bicycle in Virginia.

 

[cstu]

For me it's always come down to whether a story development is so egregious it totally ruins the show for me. In 4-plus seasons that's never happened. That's not to say I think this show is perfect and every episode has been perfect. It just means that most of the things I see people complaining the most about are things that are often extraordinarily trivial when it comes to my overall enjoyment of the show.

I will say I don't think the writing is anywhere near as bad as some here insist. So I acknowledge I go into each show thinking of it far more positively than some here do each week.

The magic barn ruined it for me.

what was so "magical" to you... that it was left standing while the woods outside were destroyed?If so then there is nothing "magical" about it.. happens almost every year up here where a tornado will destroy almost entire neighborhoods and yet a house or two will be left standing with very little damage.

Provide me a link to your example and I'll help show you where the physics as compared to the Walking Dead example breaks down.

Posting this from my kindle which is a *itch do things like this but the first link I found searching for "house left standing after a tornado"http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614564-1D6E10E100000578-261_964x629.jpg

That's a wide swath of damage - should I take a screenshot of the narrow path of damage next to the barn?

 

[Loan Sharks]

For me it's always come down to whether a story development is so egregious it totally ruins the show for me. In 4-plus seasons that's never happened. That's not to say I think this show is perfect and every episode has been perfect. It just means that most of the things I see people complaining the most about are things that are often extraordinarily trivial when it comes to my overall enjoyment of the show.

I will say I don't think the writing is anywhere near as bad as some here insist. So I acknowledge I go into each show thinking of it far more positively than some here do each week.

Oh come on. I love the show and rarely complain about the writing, but when almost a half a episode goes down and I can't tell if it is a dream sequence or not, and then when you realize it was supposed to be real and you wished it was a dream that is pretty bad.

 

[Loan Sharks]

It's van flipping bad...

Are you referring to when the van slowly roles off the bridge and then somehow does a complete 360 and lands on it's wheels after a 30 foot drop? Totally forgot about that.

Van flipping and raining zombies have nothing on magic cabin.

You better shut up or I will stab you in your bulletproof vest with tweezers.

 

[cstu]

Sunday can't come soon enough so I can forget about this episode.

 

[tdoss]

It's van flipping bad...

Are you referring to when the van slowly roles off the bridge and then somehow does a complete 360 and lands on it's wheels after a 30 foot drop? Totally forgot about that.

Van flipping and raining zombies have nothing on magic cabin.

You better shut up or I will stab you in your bulletproof vest with tweezers.

Puhlease...you pull that nonsense and I'll pull off one of the quickest draws in history and put a bullet right in your brain pan.

 

[GregR]

I enjoy the show, but it often feels like it is in spite of the writing as much as because of it. A lot of comments in here I thought said it well:

Seems like the writers write the show around cool zombie scenes and less around the characters/story.

I think the barn door scene was just showing the overall theme of the episode, ...having the three people (Daryl, Maggie, and Sasha) who were all on the verge of letting go, being the first three to the barn door, showed that.

...even a zombie show needs to have baseline rules and a general order of things. The leaving the cars, weapons etc and just walking without food and water seems way too outlandish even for this show. They could have at least incorporated some dialogue to set up the storyline at the minimum.

I don't know if it's laziness or incompetence or both, but it could be a lot better than it is from a plotting standpoint.

I do enjoy the show most of the time, but I REALLY have to throw any critical thinking out the window to do so sometimes.

It does feel like the writers get ideas in their head of what would be cool to have in an episode and then focus on those to the detriment of the making a well-built story around those moments. Good storytelling includes providing the little things that avoid the audience losing immersion as they get thoughts of disbelief.

They could have gotten what they seemed to want with those 3 characters holding the door first, while still letting us know other things were happening in a believable fashion. Let us see they are calling out even if the audio is focused on the storm or music score. Someone waking/getting others attention. Some stabbing through the gaps going on, even if shown only at the edge of the frame. They can still focus on what they wanted while letting us know the bits needed for believability are happening.

Same with the tornado. Just a few extra well done seconds on screen could have better prepared the audience to expect to see the carnage of a tornado outside. Without that expectation, the moment you see the outside it feels miraculously contrived. That extra moment could have also shown the barn being affected, after which they could have got away with not needing to show the extent of the damage.

Again, I like the show and they do a lot of stuff well. That's what makes it frustrating when they fall down so badly on what seems like it should be pretty basic stuff for professional screen writers.

 

[bucksoh]

Kirkman needs to go, I use to love watching this show but I find myself fast forwarding threw so much cause the writing is so bad.

Here is a show that writes itself and it has been so bad. I really look forward to watching Z-nation, hope that show comes back. Twd not so much at least until they get new writers.

 

[pantherclub]

I love all the #####ing about having to suspend disbelief in watching a show about zombies.

oh really like you can explain why there isn't a single bicycle in Virginia.

and whats with the stupid cross bow still? You would think he would be out of arrows at this point because one miss and that arrow is nowhere to be found.

 

[Jayrok]

I love all the #####ing about having to suspend disbelief in watching a show about zombies.

oh really like you can explain why there isn't a single bicycle in Virginia.

and whats with the stupid cross bow still? You would think he would be out of arrows at this point because one miss and that arrow is nowhere to be found.

oh, but Daryl doesn't miss.

 

[comfortably numb]

I love all the #####ing about having to suspend disbelief in watching a show about zombies.

I always had this sentiment in the back of my mind as well but not for nothing, there is another excellent show with awesome character development, story telling special effects and that show has fire breathing dragons and ogres.

So stop making excuses for poor and inadequate writing.

It's like having a religious discussion with someone and when the god person has no reasonable answer they resort to "It's God's plan"

 

[snogger]

Sunday can't come soon enough so I can forget about this episode. and complain about this weeks

*fixed

 

[snogger]

For me it's always come down to whether a story development is so egregious it totally ruins the show for me. In 4-plus seasons that's never happened. That's not to say I think this show is perfect and every episode has been perfect. It just means that most of the things I see people complaining the most about are things that are often extraordinarily trivial when it comes to my overall enjoyment of the show.

I will say I don't think the writing is anywhere near as bad as some here insist. So I acknowledge I go into each show thinking of it far more positively than some here do each week.

The magic barn ruined it for me.

what was so "magical" to you... that it was left standing while the woods outside were destroyed?If so then there is nothing "magical" about it.. happens almost every year up here where a tornado will destroy almost entire neighborhoods and yet a house or two will be left standing with very little damage.

Provide me a link to your example and I'll help show you where the physics as compared to the Walking Dead example breaks down.

Posting this from my kindle which is a *itch do things like this but the first link I found searching for "house left standing after a tornado"http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614564-1D6E10E100000578-261_964x629.jpg

That's a wide swath of damage - should I take a screenshot of the narrow path of damage next to the barn?

Just displaying that tornado's leave things behind all the time and believing that the tornado left the barn standing is not "Magical"..

If you want Magical, go back and watch the Van fall from the bridge and land on it's wheels.. now THAT was magic!!

 

[comfortably numb]

For me it's always come down to whether a story development is so egregious it totally ruins the show for me. In 4-plus seasons that's never happened. That's not to say I think this show is perfect and every episode has been perfect. It just means that most of the things I see people complaining the most about are things that are often extraordinarily trivial when it comes to my overall enjoyment of the show.

I will say I don't think the writing is anywhere near as bad as some here insist. So I acknowledge I go into each show thinking of it far more positively than some here do each week.

The magic barn ruined it for me.

what was so "magical" to you... that it was left standing while the woods outside were destroyed?If so then there is nothing "magical" about it.. happens almost every year up here where a tornado will destroy almost entire neighborhoods and yet a house or two will be left standing with very little damage.

Provide me a link to your example and I'll help show you where the physics as compared to the Walking Dead example breaks down.

Posting this from my kindle which is a *itch do things like this but the first link I found searching for "house left standing after a tornado"http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614564-1D6E10E100000578-261_964x629.jpg

That's a wide swath of damage - should I take a screenshot of the narrow path of damage next to the barn?

Just displaying that tornado's leave things behind all the time and believing that the tornado left the barn standing is not "Magical"..

If you want Magical, go back and watch the Van fall from the bridge and land on it's wheels.. now THAT was magic!!

Did they say it was a tornado? Could have been a hurricane or tropical storm?

I have to rewatch just to make sure they are in VA.

If it was a tornado I may have missed a quick comment and the gang can be in Missouri for all I know.

 

[snogger]

For me it's always come down to whether a story development is so egregious it totally ruins the show for me. In 4-plus seasons that's never happened. That's not to say I think this show is perfect and every episode has been perfect. It just means that most of the things I see people complaining the most about are things that are often extraordinarily trivial when it comes to my overall enjoyment of the show.

I will say I don't think the writing is anywhere near as bad as some here insist. So I acknowledge I go into each show thinking of it far more positively than some here do each week.

The magic barn ruined it for me.

what was so "magical" to you... that it was left standing while the woods outside were destroyed?If so then there is nothing "magical" about it.. happens almost every year up here where a tornado will destroy almost entire neighborhoods and yet a house or two will be left standing with very little damage.

Provide me a link to your example and I'll help show you where the physics as compared to the Walking Dead example breaks down.

Posting this from my kindle which is a *itch do things like this but the first link I found searching for "house left standing after a tornado"http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614564-1D6E10E100000578-261_964x629.jpg

That's a wide swath of damage - should I take a screenshot of the narrow path of damage next to the barn?

Just displaying that tornado's leave things behind all the time and believing that the tornado left the barn standing is not "Magical"..

If you want Magical, go back and watch the Van fall from the bridge and land on it's wheels.. now THAT was magic!!

Did they say it was a tornado? Could have been a hurricane or tropical storm?

I have to rewatch just to make sure they are in VA.

If it was a tornado I may have missed a quick comment and the gang can be in Missouri for all I know.

based on the lightning and thunder and the storm clouds earlier I think it was assumed to be a Tornado..

Could have been the hand of god saving them for all we know

 

[El Floppo]

For me it's always come down to whether a story development is so egregious it totally ruins the show for me. In 4-plus seasons that's never happened. That's not to say I think this show is perfect and every episode has been perfect. It just means that most of the things I see people complaining the most about are things that are often extraordinarily trivial when it comes to my overall enjoyment of the show.

I will say I don't think the writing is anywhere near as bad as some here insist. So I acknowledge I go into each show thinking of it far more positively than some here do each week.

The magic barn ruined it for me.

what was so "magical" to you... that it was left standing while the woods outside were destroyed?If so then there is nothing "magical" about it.. happens almost every year up here where a tornado will destroy almost entire neighborhoods and yet a house or two will be left standing with very little damage.

Provide me a link to your example and I'll help show you where the physics as compared to the Walking Dead example breaks down.

Posting this from my kindle which is a *itch do things like this but the first link I found searching for "house left standing after a tornado"http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614564-1D6E10E100000578-261_964x629.jpg

That's a wide swath of damage - should I take a screenshot of the narrow path of damage next to the barn?

Just displaying that tornado's leave things behind all the time and believing that the tornado left the barn standing is not "Magical"..

If you want Magical, go back and watch the Van fall from the bridge and land on it's wheels.. now THAT was magic!!

Did they say it was a tornado? Could have been a hurricane or tropical storm?

I have to rewatch just to make sure they are in VA.

If it was a tornado I may have missed a quick comment and the gang can be in Missouri for all I know.

I've never seen one first hand, but I've driven through areas where tornadoes have hit (granted, not recently): what I saw looked exactly like what they showed- a straight line swath of felled trees next to trees that looked fine- not all tornadoes are giant.

but again- what I saw was a long time after the tornado... I'd imagine that rickety old barn would implode if a tornado went right by it as depicted on the show. but to me, that's more comparable to a "bottle rocket dynamics" issue than a "van" issue because it's close enough to what's possible that I can mock it but not have it ruin the show for me.

 

[snogger]

Just because there isn't much else to discuss in here right now

Check out this shot

The house in the bottom right is left standing with what looks like some roof damage, but otherwise looks intact..

Yet nothing left right across the street.. also next to it on both sides either a lot of damage or complete destruction and then complete destruction behind it..

 

[El Floppo]

Just because there isn't much else to discuss in here right now

Check out this shot

The house in the bottom right is left standing with what looks like some roof damage, but otherwise looks intact..

Yet nothing left right across the street.. also next to it on both sides either a lot of damage or complete destruction and then complete destruction behind it..

Yeah- I would think we all understand that tornadoes cut a path... things next to the path can be fine and things in the path flattened. Maybe people have ever seen a single news report about tornadoes?

again- my main problem (as others have mentioned) is that they went from all-hands-on-deck pushing back against the barn-doors to wakey-wakey eggs and bakey in a single edit/commercial break. a few seconds of a large sound outside (tornadoes make a crazy roar of a sound, right?) with some cracking of trees sounds... and then cut to sleepy-time, I'd be happier.

unless the writers intentionally made the jump to instigate anti-writer board chatter and generate interest/talk about the show.

 

[packersfan]

For me it's always come down to whether a story development is so egregious it totally ruins the show for me. In 4-plus seasons that's never happened. That's not to say I think this show is perfect and every episode has been perfect. It just means that most of the things I see people complaining the most about are things that are often extraordinarily trivial when it comes to my overall enjoyment of the show.

I will say I don't think the writing is anywhere near as bad as some here insist. So I acknowledge I go into each show thinking of it far more positively than some here do each week.

Oh come on. I love the show and rarely complain about the writing, but when almost a half a episode goes down and I can't tell if it is a dream sequence or not, and then when you realize it was supposed to be real and you wished it was a dream that is pretty bad.

I'm not sure if you're saying you thought all of the stuff before the barn was a dream or just the barn stuff. If it's the former it seems pretty obvious it wasn't. If you're referring to the latter I could see that.

Again, I said this wasn't one of the show's better episodes. I didn't think it sucked. I appreciated "The Road" type of feel they were going for and I did like the episode a lot once they got to the barn. I don't think I'm making excuses for the writers or anything like that. I just happen to think this is a really good show generally and it's nowhere near as bad as some here make it out to be on a weekly basis. It's just my opinion. So I tend to enjoy the show a lot more than some here do. I don't have a problem with that or feel bad about it. If something jumps out at me as being really bad or something that really detracts from the show I will say so and have said so.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Wouldn't the tornado have tossed the walkers around so forcefully that they would gotten serious head and brain injuries thus killing them? Impaled with a tree but a tree didn't crush its skull?

And another thing...heavy rain falling and Maggie's in a loose fitting shirt yet when they get to the barn, her shirt is completely dry? C'mon writers!

 

[cstu]

It does feel like the writers get ideas in their head of what would be cool to have in an episode and then focus on those to the detriment of the making a well-built story around those moments. Good storytelling includes providing the little things that avoid the audience losing immersion as they get thoughts of disbelief.

"Dude, it would be cool if they ran out of water so we could get everyone's emotions going, maybe even get Daryl to cry."

"Oh, and what if a tornado knocks down trees outside and impales zombies after they had to team up to hold the door shut to keep them out?"

"You had me at 'impales zombies'...write that #### up."

 

[Todem]

This season (thus far) has been meh overall.

For me Seasons 3 and 4 were really the series high point (I also thoroughly enjoyed season 1 and 2 as well). Seems like they are hitting some writers block IMO. Very hit or miss this season.

 

[packersfan]

I still think this is the best season since Season 2 and depending on how the remainder goes it could equal it or surpass it. Season 3 was my least favorite season (the Andrea storyline was simply horrific). Season 4 was a strong recovery (especially as it concluded) and I really have enjoyed this season a lot.

 

[tonydead]

Just because there isn't much else to discuss in here right now

Check out this shot

The house in the bottom right is left standing with what looks like some roof damage, but otherwise looks intact..

Yet nothing left right across the street.. also next to it on both sides either a lot of damage or complete destruction and then complete destruction behind it..

I'd guess the house in the bottom right has more damage than you estimate, however, it has a concrete foundation and built with brick. C'mon you know better, I mean, The Three Little Pigs?

 

[snogger]

Just because there isn't much else to discuss in here right now

Check out this shot

The house in the bottom right is left standing with what looks like some roof damage, but otherwise looks intact..

Yet nothing left right across the street.. also next to it on both sides either a lot of damage or complete destruction and then complete destruction behind it..

I'd guess the house in the bottom right has more damage than you estimate, however, it has a concrete foundation and built with brick. C'mon you know better, I mean, The Three Little Pigs?

 

[culdeus]

Thank you all for not posting the stupid zombienado memes.

 

[tdoss]

I guess that tornado/sleep scene was meant to distract us from discussing the new clean shaven gay dude who stepped out of the LL Bean catalog at the end.

 

[El Floppo]

I guess that tornado/sleep scene was meant to distract us from discussing the new clean shaven gay dude who stepped out of the LL Bean catalog at the end.

he's a friend. I'm satisified with that.

 

[snogger]

I guess that tornado/sleep scene was meant to distract us from discussing the new clean shaven gay dude who stepped out of the LL Bean catalog at the end.

he's a friend. I'm satisified with that.

They all are.. It's Rick's group that is the REAL enemies to all.. We've just been fooled into thinking Terminus group, The Hospital, and the Governor were bad people.

 

[The Big Guy]

I guess that tornado/sleep scene was meant to distract us from discussing the new clean shaven gay dude who stepped out of the LL Bean catalog at the end.

he's a friend. I'm satisified with that.

They said that they were going to add a gay character this season, so it seems safe to assume that the impeccable and clean guy is that guy. Maybe he is a fan of Cosby and that was the trap with the water bottles left in the highway.

 

[culdeus]

The water in the road would be a useful tripwire. Zombies just plow it over like bowling balls but people would likely just take it. It's good to know what is in the area.

 

[kentric]

The water in the road would be a useful tripwire. Zombies just plow it over like bowling balls but people would likely just take it. It's good to know what is in the area.

I'm with you on this one. I thought it was totally unrealistic when they used wires with empty cans to make noise when perfectly good water bottles would have sufficed. The writing on this show is terrible. I know its about zombies guys but at least use common sense when you devise detection techniques.

 

[culdeus]

The water in the road would be a useful tripwire. Zombies just plow it over like bowling balls but people would likely just take it. It's good to know what is in the area.

I'm with you on this one. I thought it was totally unrealistic when they used wires with empty cans to make noise when perfectly good water bottles would have sufficed. The writing on this show is terrible. I know its about zombies guys but at least use common sense when you devise detection techniques.

That's not what I mean. If your goal is to detect humans then trip wires will give you a false positive when a zombie trips it. Humans would, theoretically, stop for water in the road.

If you have several roads in your area dropping some water will if nothing else let you know there are humans nearby, and even if you intend to eat them you can always claim you are the nice guy that laid out water for you to find at first till you can get them tied up and ready to be eaten.

 

[pantherclub]

I wonder if they are going to explain how that dude knows Rick right off the bat or are the writers going to draw it out a la Lost?

 

[snogger]

I wonder if they are going to explain how that dude knows Rick right off the bat or are the writers going to draw it out a la Lost?

Seems he has been watching them for some time( knowing they need water) and thus it wouldn't be too difficult to hear them call his name out and see he is the leader.

 

[packersfan]

I wonder if they are going to explain how that dude knows Rick right off the bat or are the writers going to draw it out a la Lost?

This show has done a great job of providing answers when they pose major questions. I wouldn't worry at all about that.

 

[tommyboy]

watched it again last night, was better the 2nd time. I would say the episode was strong on symbolism, foreshadowing and emotional situations, not really going after the killing sprees some people like. Even the main killing spree started out as subdued until sasha went nuts.

yes you can pick apart the water shortage, the barn and the tornado but the show was going after a theme, and achieved it. The final 3 minutes were fantastic with a bit of a cliffhanger ending, which I can't wait to see where that goes next week

 

[cstu]

watched it again last night, was better the 2nd time. I would say the episode was strong on symbolism, foreshadowing and emotional situations, not really going after the killing sprees some people like. Even the main killing spree started out as subdued until sasha went nuts.

yes you can pick apart the water shortage, the barn and the tornado but the show was going after a theme, and achieved it. The final 3 minutes were fantastic with a bit of a cliffhanger ending, which I can't wait to see where that goes next week

I'm a fan of those things, not magic barns. Water shortage, fine, these aren't the brightest people in the world who understand the importance of drinking water.

 

[kentric]

I wonder if they are going to explain how that dude knows Rick right off the bat or are the writers going to draw it out a la Lost?

Seems he has been watching them for some time( knowing they need water) and thus it wouldn't be too difficult to hear them call his name out and see he is the leader.

I bet they have those mythical bicycles everyone has been talking about and that's how they were able to get ahead of Rick and his cohorts.

 

[roadkill1292]

I wonder if they are going to explain how that dude knows Rick right off the bat or are the writers going to draw it out a la Lost?

Seems he has been watching them for some time( knowing they need water) and thus it wouldn't be too difficult to hear them call his name out and see he is the leader.

I bet they have those mythical bicycles everyone has been talking about and that's how they were able to get ahead of Rick and his cohorts.

Drones?