***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (3 Viewers)

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Kind of a twisted question but would it have been better to shoot Lori in the head (and kill her) and then take the baby out? I mean assuming the c-section is done within a few minutes the baby would still be OK, no?

One guarantees the death of the parent and one doesn't.It became obvious that she wasn't gonna make it when she started to hemorrhage blood, shooting her then also wouldn't have done any good as she was likely in shock, but would have also endangered all of them as there was a pack of zombies within earshot.

Thanks, doctor.

Np, 5-6 quarts of blood in the human body, can lose 2 quarts before you have virtual death sentence without medical attention (blood transfusion).The more you know.

I missed where they measured the blood loss. Thanks again.

Did you also miss the part where laurie, maggie and the floor were just covered in blood? Did you even watch the episode?

We've already seen absurd survivals, they're not exactly dealing with hard medical facts here. Plus, I've bathed in my own blood before (not from my uterus though), it usually looks worse than it is.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

What's up with all these zombies?

 

[lod01]

Kind of a twisted question but would it have been better to shoot Lori in the head (and kill her) and then take the baby out? I mean assuming the c-section is done within a few minutes the baby would still be OK, no?

One guarantees the death of the parent and one doesn't.It became obvious that she wasn't gonna make it when she started to hemorrhage blood, shooting her then also wouldn't have done any good as she was likely in shock, but would have also endangered all of them as there was a pack of zombies within earshot.

Thanks, doctor.

Np, 5-6 quarts of blood in the human body, can lose 2 quarts before you have virtual death sentence without medical attention (blood transfusion).The more you know.

I missed where they measured the blood loss. Thanks again.

All you had to do is watch Maggie carve her up like a jack-o-lantern while on a concrete slab with nothing to stop the flow to figure out that it wasn't going to take long for her to bleed out. No need to measure it.

What about when they lop a leg off with nothing to stop the "flow"?

I question that one as well but in the case of a leg you can at least apply a tourniquet.

 

[Billy Bats]

just thought it would be cheaper to chop a real zombie head in half

What?

 

[beer 302]

Kind of a twisted question but would it have been better to shoot Lori in the head (and kill her) and then take the baby out? I mean assuming the c-section is done within a few minutes the baby would still be OK, no?

One guarantees the death of the parent and one doesn't.It became obvious that she wasn't gonna make it when she started to hemorrhage blood, shooting her then also wouldn't have done any good as she was likely in shock, but would have also endangered all of them as there was a pack of zombies within earshot.

Thanks, doctor.

Np, 5-6 quarts of blood in the human body, can lose 2 quarts before you have virtual death sentence without medical attention (blood transfusion).The more you know.

I missed where they measured the blood loss. Thanks again.

All you had to do is watch Maggie carve her up like a jack-o-lantern while on a concrete slab with nothing to stop the flow to figure out that it wasn't going to take long for her to bleed out. No need to measure it.

What about when they lop a leg off with nothing to stop the "flow"?

I question that one as well but in the case of a leg you can at least apply a tourniquet.

Which they did and then immediately got him the hell out of there.The one thing I thought might have worked better was if they cut to Carl standing by himself then cut to Lori's face at the exact moment she turned and her eyes came wide open then cut to Maggie and hear the shot.

 

[Run It Up]

Well just a heads up for people that enjoy discussing the TV series, the entire season has been leaked... again (the prior two season have been leaked only a couple days after the premier).

Spoiler pictures of upcoming stuffs are flying around already so keep your head down if you don't wanna be spoiled.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

RRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

 

[Mile High]

Whats the point of bringing the baby in with no mother. They will spend half of each show running around looking for formula to keep it alive..

 

[packersfan]

Whats the point of bringing the baby in with no mother.

To put more pressure on Rick when he's at his emotional lowest. As others have said, the show has always been about Rick. I think this season is about how much can he withstand emotionally and psychologically? All of this will be put to the test once he and the Governor collide.

 

[identikit]

Whats the point of bringing the baby in with no mother. They will spend half of each show running around looking for formula to keep it alive..

Maggie will provide.

 

[jamny]

The guy that plays T-Dog's name is IronE?

 

[Charlie Frown]

I thought Andrew Lincoln did a fine job acting at the end. How else was he supposed to act in that situation? I just don't get some of you.

For bad grief acting I refer you to Kim Coates on Sons of Anarchy.First it's too few zombies now it's too many. You people are hard to please.Glenn needs to knock Maggie up now.

 

[Run It Up]

Whats the point of bringing the baby in with no mother. They will spend half of each show running around looking for formula to keep it alive..

My thoughts exactly, worst plot device ever.

 

[Froglova]

The only person we know is for certain dead is T-dogg, which sucks because him meeting Merl would've been interesting.Annoying mom maybe shot by her son, but maybe he faked it.Annoying former abused wife and mother of girl who became a barn zombie is maybe dead, maybe she just lost her bandana and is still running through the prison.FWIW, I really think Lori is still alive, I don't see Carl actually shooting his mother in the head. We'll either see Rick save her coming up (like the end of next episode, they'll reveal she's still alive but just hanging on) <OR> she'll be back as a zombie and Rick will have to kill her.

Are we sure Lori is really dead?

Robert Kirkman confirmed in an online interview after the episode that she's definitely dead.

I wouldn't put it past Kirkman to lie about this.Facts: -Lori had a crummy c-section that is probably non-fatal-Lori supposedly shot, but it was offscreen-Carol had been practicing c-sections and was learning the ways of post apocolyptic medicine-Carol's dewrag was found, but no Carol, who we last saw in the SAME BUILDING AS LORI, escaping zombies through T-dogg's sacraficeAsk yourself these questions:-Why make it a point to have Carol practicing c-sections on zombies when as the 2nd closest thing to a doctor, she should've been helping with Hershel?-Why have Carl shoot Lori offscreen?To me, the set up is likely this, Carol finds Lori and saves her. This will probably happen in the last 5 minutes of the show next week, will Carol be able to save Lori being the cliff hanger.I think Kirkman is lying as he has a vested interest to lie. The story is unfolding, and unless you have rational reasons for why Carol was practicing c-sections and why Lori was killed offscreen, you'd can't rule it out. Kirkman said she's dead, but the story unfolding for us says no she isn't.

Not everything is a twist or a turn. Lori is dead. She didn't die of the c section. She was bleeding out in a cellar with no medical equipment or bandages. Zombies were still roaming the halls and they didn't know where anyone was. It was inevitable that she would die. And while she was passed out from pain and blood loss, it is the perfect time to end "her suffering". Having Carl kill his passed out mother on TV is a bit much. That's why they didn't show it.

 

[Run It Up]

Having Carl kill his passed out mother on TV is a bit much. That's why they didn't show it.

It also adds to the old, your imagination is more powerful than any picture adage.

 

[-fish-]

They killed off the best eye candy in this series last night in a dramatic way.

Lori looked like butt.

 

[Mile High]

Why did Lori and team run so far into the prison. They shut the gate and door. Rick,Darrel and Glen where almost there, better to have waited for reinforcements.

 

[Worm]

Why did Lori and team run so far into the prison. They shut the gate and door. Rick,Darrel and Glen where almost there, better to have waited for reinforcements.

They ran back to the "safety" of their home cells. But they were breached and they had to leave.

 

[babydemon90]

I don't understand the lack of any personal protective gear. All their travels, no one picked up anything better able to delay a bite then a tank top or t-shirt? Leather jackets can't be that hard to come by, and would probably keep from getting TDogged in the shoulder before you had time to turn around and push them away for a sec.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I don't understand the lack of any personal protective gear. All their travels, no one picked up anything better able to delay a bite then a tank top or t-shirt? Leather jackets can't be that hard to come by, and would probably keep from getting TDogged in the shoulder before you had time to turn around and push them away for a sec.

Ironically, T-Dawg was rocking the riot gear vest in prior episodes. I guess he was feeling safe-ish in the yard.

 

[Borat]

Whats the point of bringing the baby in with no mother. They will spend half of each show running around looking for formula to keep it alive..

My thoughts exactly, worst plot device ever.

Next time there's a mob of zombies afoot, they can throw the baby at them and run the other way.

 

[Borat]

By the way, was I the only one waiting to see if it'd be a zombie baby? Or did y'all just assume he/she would be healthy right away?

 

[mr roboto]

By the way, was I the only one waiting to see if it'd be a zombie baby? Or did y'all just assume he/she would be healthy right away?

I thought it was going to be normal. 2 reasons...1. You 'turn' upon death. All the characters are carriers. Why would the baby be different?2. If the baby is a zombie, then there really is no point at all to continue living. There would be no way to reproduce and it would essentially crush any and all hope anyone had in returning to some normal kind of society.

 

[Charlie Frown]

Our fallen hero

 

[Christo]

By the way, was I the only one waiting to see if it'd be a zombie baby? Or did y'all just assume he/she would be healthy right away?

I thought it was going to be normal. 2 reasons...1. You 'turn' upon death. All the characters are carriers. Why would the baby be different?2. If the baby is a zombie, then there really is no point at all to continue living. There would be no way to reproduce and it would essentially crush any and all hope anyone had in returning to some normal kind of society.

For a while she thought the baby might be dead because she couldn't feel it moving. She was afraid it could turn into a zombie and attack her from inside the womb. Not that the baby would be born a zombie.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

So we are (supposed to be) emotionally invested in Rick's group. They are dropping like flies. At this rate, Rick is going to be the only one left. Can they get you to care about some other characters (Andrea, Michonne, some other group) quick enough? Or is this becoming a horror-type movie where hope and triumph is not part of the equation?

I wouldn't rule out Daryl as a great sympathetic character. He's already a fan favorite but his upcoming struggle of eventually having to choise between Merle and the Group. My guess is he chooses the group (based off of how the comics went*). As for hope and triumph, I don't see how there can be any unless they get to some non dictatorship utopia, protected from without as well as within. Otherwise hope will have to come from the little things like a good night's sleep, a shower, a little nookie, playing some music... The little things that will make them feel more human than walking dead. *I actually didn't read the comics much past Lori's death and don't even remember Merle coming back in them. Just wanted to freak out the squares.

Reverse spoiler for those not wanting their knowledge of the TV show to ruin their experience of reading the comic:

Spoiler

Merle and Daryl are not in the comic.

 

[Borat]

By the way, was I the only one waiting to see if it'd be a zombie baby? Or did y'all just assume he/she would be healthy right away?

I thought it was going to be normal. 2 reasons...1. You 'turn' upon death. All the characters are carriers. Why would the baby be different?2. If the baby is a zombie, then there really is no point at all to continue living. There would be no way to reproduce and it would essentially crush any and all hope anyone had in returning to some normal kind of society.

I thought the baby might just be born dead (just this particular baby, not every baby going forward), and therefore a zombie.

 

[gmbacm]

By the way, was I the only one waiting to see if it'd be a zombie baby? Or did y'all just assume he/she would be healthy right away?

I thought it was going to be normal. 2 reasons...1. You 'turn' upon death. All the characters are carriers. Why would the baby be different?2. If the baby is a zombie, then there really is no point at all to continue living. There would be no way to reproduce and it would essentially crush any and all hope anyone had in returning to some normal kind of society.

I thought the baby might just be born dead (just this particular baby, not every baby going forward), and therefore a zombie.

Might be kinda cute. No teeth, no sharp nails. Gum you to death.

 

[mad sweeney]

By the way, was I the only one waiting to see if it'd be a zombie baby? Or did y'all just assume he/she would be healthy right away?

I was waiting for the zombie sound in the two seconds before it cried. Most tense moment of the episode for me.

 

[tdoss]

What happened to carol? Is she not still in there somewhere? I lost track with so much going on.

Didn't see her after T-Dog got got.

The minute T-Dog got it I knew the other black guy was going to join the group.

My son and I joked about this very same thing...as soon as the other black dude came on screen...T-Dogg must've been like "Damn...I'm on borrowed time...we've over our quota."

 

[tdoss]

Fresh meat could be interesting. May be fun when the giant con makes a run at Hershel's tiny blonde daughter. :crutchflail:

Not the formula...the formula calls for inbred white dude with the great stash to do the diddling and the black dude to kill him or incapacitate him.

 

[tdoss]

The only person we know is for certain dead is T-dogg, which sucks because him meeting Merl would've been interesting.Annoying mom maybe shot by her son, but maybe he faked it.Annoying former abused wife and mother of girl who became a barn zombie is maybe dead, maybe she just lost her bandana and is still running through the prison.FWIW, I really think Lori is still alive, I don't see Carl actually shooting his mother in the head. We'll either see Rick save her coming up (like the end of next episode, they'll reveal she's still alive but just hanging on) <OR> she'll be back as a zombie and Rick will have to kill her.

I'm sorry...but this seems ridiculous.Lori is dead...ain't no one saving her...she's got a gaping wound...bleeding profusely. She's got minutes to live at most.She's dead. The question is whether or not Carl killed her zombie self. I'm fairly certain he did...but there is a slight, very small chance he didn't.Old chick is still alive somewhere...but it would be cool to see her zombie in the group of zombies that are after the group every episode.YES...I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree that it's a bit much on the zombie front lately...they're trying a bit too hard with zombie horde every episode...but I'm happier with that than I am with the snoozefest that was most of last season. I'd just like a bit more balance.

 

[shadyridr]

buncha goldilocks in here

 

[curta269]

My question is this:

Will the baby look more like Rick, or more like Shane?

 

[tdoss]

Whats the point of bringing the baby in with no mother.

To put more pressure on Rick when he's at his emotional lowest. As others have said, the show has always been about Rick. I think this season is about how much can he withstand emotionally and psychologically? All of this will be put to the test once he and the Governor collide.

Also...everyone hated Lori. She became one of the most unlikable characters in all of television. It was getting difficult to recover from the damage the previous team of writers caused.They've actually done a great job of salvaging Carl...I'm actually starting to like him and oddly enough have lost some love for Rick for some reason.

 

[tdoss]

My question is this:Will the baby look more like Rick, or more like Shane?

My son and I laughed about the same thing...Maggie hands over the baby and says, "Here's your baby...reminds me of Shane for some reason."

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

What happened to carol? Is she not still in there somewhere? I lost track with so much going on.

Didn't see her after T-Dog got got.

The minute T-Dog got it I knew the other black guy was going to join the group.

just watched the ep, so I'm just catching up, but I felt the reverse -- as soon as this new dude showed up I figured t-dog was done.too bad -- t seemed like a cool dude.

 

[flapgreen]

Can't have more than one black dude on a show, unless it's on BET. It's the rules.

 

[flapgreen]

The bum on the street was his dad!

 

[Run It Up]

My question is this:Will the baby look more like Rick, or more like Shane?

hopefully neither.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

About Lori in the comics:

Spoiler

My understanding is that she and her baby are shot w/ one bullet when the governor attacks the prison.

that's what you call an about lori spoiler?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

How are they going to keep this baby alive with no breast milk or formula?

I was thinking the same when Lorri wanted to sacrifice herself.

I don't see how lori surviving would provide any more breastmilk than they have now.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

here's what I don't really get....

initially, they show us that a bite will infect you and turn you into a zombie.

later, we find out that they're all really infected.

so --- why don't they either all turn into zombies, or why does the bite turn you into one -- getting bitten doesn't kill you (all the time).

 

[VA703]

My question is this:Will the baby look more like Rick, or more like Shane?

the baby will have an afro and look like t dawg

 

[IvanKaramazov]

here's what I don't really get....initially, they show us that a bite will infect you and turn you into a zombie.later, we find out that they're all really infected.so --- why don't they either all turn into zombies, or why does the bite turn you into one -- getting bitten doesn't kill you (all the time).

You don't turn into a zombie until you die.When you die, you turn into a zombie regardless of why you died.Zombie bites kill you because of infection. They're lethal, but they're not magical, which is why they were able to save Herchel by chopping off his leg before the infection could spread.

 

[Rick James]

here's what I don't really get....initially, they show us that a bite will infect you and turn you into a zombie.later, we find out that they're all really infected.so --- why don't they either all turn into zombies, or why does the bite turn you into one -- getting bitten doesn't kill you (all the time).

The bite doesn't turn you into a zombie. The bite causes a severe, lethal infection. You die from the infection. Then, you come back to life as a zombie.

 

[kentric]

Kind of a twisted question but would it have been better to shoot Lori in the head (and kill her) and then take the baby out? I mean assuming the c-section is done within a few minutes the baby would still be OK, no?

I was thinking the same thing while I was watching it. They couldn't lock the door to the room and there were zombies outside but you're going to have a woman screaming at the top of her lungs from the pain due to being sliced up. That's just begging for trouble. All I could think of was that it was: 1. too insensitive and Maggie couldn't do it. 2. they were afraid that the minute Lori died the baby would somehow become zombified. For those who think that Lori could have lived through it, highly doubtful. Slicing a woman open like that in a non-sterile environment would just result in a potentially long, painful death - not that I'm saying that would be a bad thing in Lori's case.

 

[snogger]

here's what I don't really get....initially, they show us that a bite will infect you and turn you into a zombie.later, we find out that they're all really infected.so --- why don't they either all turn into zombies, or why does the bite turn you into one -- getting bitten doesn't kill you (all the time).

You don't turn into a zombie until you die.When you die, you turn into a zombie regardless of why you died.Zombie bites kill you because of infection. They're lethal, but they're not magical, which is why they were able to save Herchel by chopping off his leg before the infection could spread.

 

[snogger]

Am I the only one that thought..

"OK, T-dogg gone, Lori gone.. With any luck this will be a 3-fer today and Andrea will be taken out also"

and then severely disappointed ???

 

[Hodor]

Revolution = has week long promos about a main character dying in it's next episode.

Walking Dead = Episode 4, two main characters suddenly offed as a complete surprise.

That is what I love about this show, leaves you on the edge of your seat. Never know what is going to happen or who is going to get kilt.