***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[SmoovySmoov]

Merle jamming to Motorhead before his mission seemed very fitting

Awesome.

 

[Kraft...]

Why would a Zombie that is feeding(Merle last night) get up and go after Daryl? Wouldn't they just keep eating and pay no mind to surroundings.

I think they have established that zombies are pretty easily distracted.

I'm thinking food is their primary motivation so once they are eating they just keep doing it

 

[dhockster]

Why would a Zombie that is feeding(Merle last night) get up and go after Daryl? Wouldn't they just keep eating and pay no mind to surroundings.

I think they have established that zombies are pretty easily distracted.

Also Merle had ADHD

 

[stbugs]

Gov and Martinez Hernandez die, Hershal dies saving Glen.

Tyrese and Milton run Woodbury as a peaceful, clothing optional community.

Daryl gets a haircut.

Rick talks about 'sticking taagether'' some more.

I noticed he was looking a little scraggly last night. That scene with him and Glen was about as awkward as it comes. Agree on Herschel, I think he may be the stay behind guy at the prison while the rest try and escape. I would love to see the Governor go into the cell block and Herschel releases a herd and smoke bombs (try shooting zombies in the head when you can't see and somehow blocks there escape. All kinds of awesome.

If Herschel still has his magical shotgun that never needs reloading from Season 2, he just might be able to make that final stand work out.

I think he still does. If you have never seen the Ben Stiller/Vince Vaughn comedy The Watch, you would enjoy their magic guns. It is a comedy, so they kind of poke fun at wasting shots/unlimited ammo as Stiller and Vaughn continue to pump bullets into a dead alien just because. Great movie, but released at exactly the wrong time for neighborhood watch movies (right after Zimmerman shot Trayvon).

 

[stbugs]

Why would a Zombie that is feeding(Merle last night) get up and go after Daryl? Wouldn't they just keep eating and pay no mind to surroundings.

I think they have established that zombies are pretty easily distracted.

I'm thinking food is their primary motivation so once they are eating they just keep doing it

It is, but there have been plenty of times where too much noise gets them to notice even fresher food. You can definitely tip toe around zombies eating and they won't notice you, but they will wake up from eating to look at something new. Maybe they are like animals that know they already have one kill, so they try to get another knowing they could go back to the kill. They are probably even more mindless than that and lose focus on what they were eating and just see new food and go after that.

 

[Copeman]

When Glenn and Daryl were talking outside about Merle, Daryl looked more Korean than Glenn.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Great episode.

If Merle was on a suicide mission to get the Governor, why was he shooting the other guys? The Gov needed to be the only guy in his sights there. He just needed to spray the Governor with bullets once he was aiming at him.

 

[Run It Up]

At least one of Herschel, Glenn, or Maggie, will die. They showed the religious stuff, the marriage proposal, the Herschell giving his ok for marriage, etc....kind of tying up loose ends in a post-apocalyptic way.My guess is Herschell will die. Beth will live. Maggie tries to cope with the loss of her father for half the 4th season.

Man, going out on a limb there...

Everyone will die but Rick. Better?

pun based on hershel losing his leg?

Wing and a prayer.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

I think I finally realized what's been bugging me the most about this season.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they start the season off in Woodbury right out of the gate in ep.1? I feel like past seasons we've been seeing the zombie apocolypse through the eyes of the main group. This year though, they immediately added that second point of view with the early Woodbury/Gov reveal

I think if they'd handled Woodbury kind of like Lost handled the Others/Dharmaville it might've been more interesting...for me at least. I'm sure others will disagree, but they should have built up the mystery and suspense a bit more.

Last season when those three random guys bump into Rick, Glen and Hersel at the bar it was intense because it had that element of "who are these guys, where are they from" for the viewer. I would've liked more of that early in this season. Just life on the prison, but slowly they start noticing scouts watching them. Maybe they wake up one morning and their supplies have been stolen or one of the women kidnapped. They have to send out a search party. Just junk like that. A Lost/Others approach. Build it up more and keep the POV to that of the main group.

Assuming the upcoming finale is the end of the Woodbury storyline, they might've been better off stretching it out for another season or so. Seems like a lot to cram into one season.

 

[DougGlatt]

Great episode.

The dialog between Michonne and Merle was great. She asked him how many he killed before he was with the gov. He said none and had a look like he realized he had become who he was more because the gov than anything else. To me it was a great moment and the moment when he realized that he could let her go. Merle wasn't a bad guy before the zombies. Maybe a racist, but not a killer. She got into that side of him. It was a powerful moment to me. One that let us see Merle in a different light that we had seen before and one that helped redeem him before the end.

The Merle just goes all bad ### bringing zombies with him to the meeting place. He used the zombies to hide his gunfire (at least at first) while taking out 8 of the gov's best men. Realize that the gov may have 80 people in Woodbury, but they aren't all soldiers. Most of just regular people with no clue how to fight. And now 8 of his top are gone. That makes his group considerably weaker than most are thinking. You go into a war with 6 or 7 veterans against 20 or so housewives, the numbers won't guarantee victory. The gov has Martinez, but he's one guy. They have maybe a handful of fighters against Rick's group.

Lastly, they had to get rid of Merle and they needed to save his character at the same time. Clearly Glenn and Maggie were never going to be accepting of him. They made that clear in this episode. Daryl wouldn't approve of leaving his brother ever. They had to get rid of him but needed to redeem him for the new game that just came out featuring Daryl and Merle on the Xbox 360. Just a good way to wrap up that whole story. Daryl gets to stay with the group. He's beyond mad at the gov realizing his brother took out several in a blaze of glory and Merle is redeemed in the eyes of the viewers.

 

[Tecumseh]

By the way, has anyone seen the direct TV ad which features "The walking dead". Basically an average housewife walking around the house trying to clean the zombie blood off everything (you don't know the ad is for the walking dead). As she is walking into the living room and about to be attacked by a zombie, Darryl, already in the living room, shoots the zombie through the head with an arrow. The housewife turns to Darryl and says "I told you, Darryl, no killing in the house!" He looks down and says "sorry, Ma'am".It is awesome.

 

[mad sweeney]

I thought it was odd that she is just merrily going back to the Guv's with Merle instead of fighting him at every step.

Now it makes sense with what they just did, but complying like that is not true to her character.

They don't have a clue about what to do with Michonne or how to do it. They never did. And it started with casting.

Completely disagree with you and agree with Christo. Michonne knows Merle and that fighting him at every step is futile. I haven't read the comics, but I think when they introduced her, her backstory (probably from the comics) was that she was a smart person. She had to bide her time and wait for an opportunity. She took the opportunity when he let her by telling her about himself. Based on the Talking Dead show with the actor playing Merle, it sounded like Merle was never planning to give her to the governor and maybe she knew that as well. Pretty sure both Merle and Michonne know that if Merle hands her over, they both end up dead. Merle told Rick the governor was not to be trusted and would kill them all, so I do think he took this opportunity to take Michonne and have her help him kill the governor. Maybe his whole intent was to keep his brother safe because he knew the governor wouldn't leave the prison alone.

Sure, that's how they want to portray here this time. They've been all over the map with her from the start and tonight was no exception. I suppose she was just biding her time when the zombies were closing in around her, but she chose to sit and wait for Merle to redeem himself and save her because then she knows he'd let her go after they got away. There's no direction to her character, no development, no consistency, no depth, no personality... nothing but a scowl.

She bided her time at Woodbury as well. Sure, she scowled a lot and was more T-dog than main character for a while, but she felt out the governor before doing anything. She was checking out the blood on the truck after the national guard run-in and figured out the governor way before dumb ### Andrea. Could you elaborate on her all over the map? Seems like someone who doesn't open up, but is a good person and will open up (Andrea and now Rick's crew) once she "trusts" them. We saw a note on this when she told Andrea her walkers in tow deserved what they got. Seems like she started as a guarded person because of that and I am not sure I have seen anything that shows that she hasn't been consistent. She didn't trust the governor, hence the constant scowl.

What evidence do you have of her being a good person? She took care of Andrea (while she still had zombie pets) and was nice to Carl for 5 minutes of an episode. She used Rick's group to get her back into Woodbury and then left them all alone (and screw the plan that other people's lives depended on) to go find the Governor for her own revenge. She was scowling when she was first onscreen and has been scowling since, no matter where she is or with who she's with. She scowls and looks mad so much that any time she doesn't, it's obvious that they're using her as some sort of device, like with Carl or with Merle in the car. Scowling when someone should be, ike when she didn't trust the Guv, isn't the problem. She scowls persistently and 99% of the time, imperviously to the scenario around her.

Really? What evidence do I have of her being a good person? Pretty much everything she has done on the show has been good. Yes, she went to go get vengeance, but even in that scene, she went to go save the girl she thought the governor had locked up. You are really stretching it here. I get that you don't like her character and don't like the scowling, but geez, she has been on her own since who knows when, so her social skills weren't great and the only person she had as a friend for another series of months was Andrea. Don't think that will make you scowl? She instantly distrusted the governor and she didn't trust Rick either (he didn't treat her great when they first met and didn't trust her until Carl). Based on her backstory last week, pretty sure she isn't trusting of men until she knows them better.That said, you didn't elaborate on all over the map. I think her character, while not the best to some, has been at least consistent and not all over the map.

She found the girl there, she didn't go to save her. She went went to get the Guv. And by all over the map, I mean how they use her. Other than when they want to use her to help develop another character, she's nothing but a sullen, menacing scowler. Everyone in that world has trust issues, she isn't the only one. She's been exactly the same the whole time. You're making a lot of excuses for her, that's fine that you like her, but that character has been almost totally useless the whole time she's been around and when they do use her, they make her so out if character that it sticks out like a sore thumb when she exhibits the tiniest shred of a personality.

 

[stbugs]

Really? What evidence do I have of her being a good person? Pretty much everything she has done on the show has been good. Yes, she went to go get vengeance, but even in that scene, she went to go save the girl she thought the governor had locked up. You are really stretching it here. I get that you don't like her character and don't like the scowling, but geez, she has been on her own since who knows when, so her social skills weren't great and the only person she had as a friend for another series of months was Andrea. Don't think that will make you scowl? She instantly distrusted the governor and she didn't trust Rick either (he didn't treat her great when they first met and didn't trust her until Carl). Based on her backstory last week, pretty sure she isn't trusting of men until she knows them better.That said, you didn't elaborate on all over the map. I think her character, while not the best to some, has been at least consistent and not all over the map.

She found the girl there, she didn't go to save her. She went went to get the Guv. And by all over the map, I mean how they use her. Other than when they want to use her to help develop another character, she's nothing but a sullen, menacing scowler. Everyone in that world has trust issues, she isn't the only one. She's been exactly the same the whole time. You're making a lot of excuses for her, that's fine that you like her, but that character has been almost totally useless the whole time she's been around and when they do use her, they make her so out if character that it sticks out like a sore thumb when she exhibits the tiniest shred of a personality.

Making excuses for her? She is a character, not even close to my favorite. By the way, I don't believe your statement on the girl is 100% correct. I think I remember her watching the governor one time and seeing her with his daughter. It may have been when she came back. Either way, she had the intention of saving her, correct? You can say and you may be correct that she didn't go in there with the intent to save her, but she was trying to and assumed she wasn't a zombie. The governor wasn't even in there when Michonne initially went in there. Michonne could have ignored the locked up person/zombie and just waited to kill the governor if she wasn't a good person. She saved Andrea in the first scene we ever met her, so to say we don't have evidence of her being a good person is silly.Everyone else on the show may have trust issues, but she is the only one that was actually on her own for a long time. Everyone else has been part of some sort of group and if you don't think that sets her up to be less socially open, then it is clear you don't like her way more than you think that I like her.A lot of people have talked about her scowl, but I still don't agree that she has been all over the map. Seems pretty clear she is always guarded, but has good intent (the Governor was clearly a bad guy and she figured it out the soonest) and has opened up to Andrea, Carl and the rest of Rick's crew once she realized she was dealing with other good people.

 

[stbugs]

I think I finally realized what's been bugging me the most about this season.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they start the season off in Woodbury right out of the gate in ep.1? I feel like past seasons we've been seeing the zombie apocolypse through the eyes of the main group. This year though, they immediately added that second point of view with the early Woodbury/Gov reveal

I think if they'd handled Woodbury kind of like Lost handled the Others/Dharmaville it might've been more interesting...for me at least. I'm sure others will disagree, but they should have built up the mystery and suspense a bit more.

Last season when those three random guys bump into Rick, Glen and Hersel at the bar it was intense because it had that element of "who are these guys, where are they from" for the viewer. I would've liked more of that early in this season. Just life on the prison, but slowly they start noticing scouts watching them. Maybe they wake up one morning and their supplies have been stolen or one of the women kidnapped. They have to send out a search party. Just junk like that. A Lost/Others approach. Build it up more and keep the POV to that of the main group.

Assuming the upcoming finale is the end of the Woodbury storyline, they might've been better off stretching it out for another season or so. Seems like a lot to cram into one season.

Cool thought, but two problems. One, Andrea and Michonne met him very early and no way to not develop Andrea and even Merle with the Governor without seeing inside Woodbury. Two, the Governor is a psycho and unlike the Others, he wouldn't kidnap one person and steal supplies, he would have wiped them all out and either said nothing to the residents or told them some BS story like he did about the National Guard guys.

 

[Thunderlips]

I don't know if the Gov dies this finale. There seems to be too much left to do. Plus, it kind of looks like Rick and his group are running off.

 

[Thunderlips]

Great episode. If Merle was on a suicide mission to get the Governor, why was he shooting the other guys? The Gov needed to be the only guy in his sights there. He just needed to spray the Governor with bullets once he was aiming at him.

FWIW, Michael Rooker said on Taking Dead that he didn't think Merle was on a suicide mission; that he was just doing the "hard things" that Merle felt Rick couldn't do.

 

[badmojo1006]

Great episode. If Merle was on a suicide mission to get the Governor, why was he shooting the other guys? The Gov needed to be the only guy in his sights there. He just needed to spray the Governor with bullets once he was aiming at him.

Ultimately, he wanted to get the Governor, but also wanted to thin the Woodbury group to make it easier for the Prison group to survive

 

[Kraft...]

I don't know if the Gov dies this finale. There seems to be too much left to do. Plus, it kind of looks like Rick and his group are running off.

Im thinking they run then somehow(Tyrese/Milton maybe) find out Andrea's situation then have to go back and try to get her next season

 

[Thunderlips]

I don't know if the Gov dies this finale. There seems to be too much left to do. Plus, it kind of looks like Rick and his group are running off.

Im thinking they run then somehow(Tyrese/Milton maybe) find out Andrea's situation then have to go back and try to get her next season

Yeah....unless this thing is two hours long....they'll be cramming a lot of stuff into the last episode.

 

[Papa Georgio]

Thing that bothered me is how easily the Guv took Merle out. I know he had some help early but I think Merle would've been just as ruthless and tough. He totally got owned.

The Michonne/Merle dialog was great. Allowed us to see Merle just a little different. Plus for everyone wanting to know why Michonne wasn't trying to escape, she's like Chuck Norris, she could've gotten away at any moment. She just wanted to try and now have to kill someone for a change. Had the Jedi mind trick not worked I have no doubt she would've killed Merle with a straw or something.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

At least one of Herschel, Glenn, or Maggie, will die. They showed the religious stuff, the marriage proposal, the Herschell giving his ok for marriage, etc....kind of tying up loose ends in a post-apocalyptic way.

My guess is Herschell will die. Beth will live. Maggie tries to cope with the loss of her father for half the 4th season.

I am completely on-board with this as long as her coping mechanism involves a high frequency of going topless.

 

[dhockster]

Here is my call for finale:

Milton finds out about Andrea and frees her. Gov. kills Milton. Andrea makes it back to prison. Morgan shows up at prison. Rick and Co. leave prison knowing that the Govenor is coming to attack. Morgan stays behind to "clear" the evil Woodbury group. Gov. and Co. run into a whole lot of booby traps, walkers, and a crazy-### Morgan. Rick's group on the move again next season.

 

[badmojo1006]

Here is my call for finale:Milton finds out about Andrea and frees her. Gov. kills Milton. Andrea makes it back to prison. Morgan shows up at prison. Rick and Co. leave prison knowing that the Govenor is coming to attack. Morgan stays behind to "clear" the evil Woodbury group. Gov. and Co. run into a whole lot of booby traps, walkers, and a crazy-### Morgan. Rick's group on the move again next season.

I like this

 

[DougGlatt]

Here is my call for finale:Milton finds out about Andrea and frees her. Gov. kills Milton. Andrea makes it back to prison. Morgan shows up at prison. Rick and Co. leave prison knowing that the Govenor is coming to attack. Morgan stays behind to "clear" the evil Woodbury group. Gov. and Co. run into a whole lot of booby traps, walkers, and a crazy-### Morgan. Rick's group on the move again next season.

I like this

More like...Gov shows up at prison, blows it up to find Rick and gang gone. Rick and gang decided to leave earlier and find Milton, Tyrese and Andrea on road. Tyreese had freed Andrea and Andrea talked Milton into leaving with them. So they meet up and find their way back to Morgan where they enjoy a nice cup of tea before it's time to clear.Meanwhile back at Woodbury. The Gov army comes back sad and depressed while the gov goes back into his office to sulk. Fade to black.

 

[CBusAlex]

Why would a Zombie that is feeding(Merle last night) get up and go after Daryl? Wouldn't they just keep eating and pay no mind to surroundings.

He wasn't feeding, he was looking for crank in the corpse's chest cavity.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Why would a Zombie that is feeding(Merle last night) get up and go after Daryl? Wouldn't they just keep eating and pay no mind to surroundings.

I've seen other Zombie fiction claim that they actually are compelled to constantly eat fresh meat, or meat that still has life in it. So the kill is a big a part of what drives them.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Here is my call for finale:Milton finds out about Andrea and frees her. Gov. kills Milton. Andrea makes it back to prison. Morgan shows up at prison. Rick and Co. leave prison knowing that the Govenor is coming to attack. Morgan stays behind to "clear" the evil Woodbury group. Gov. and Co. run into a whole lot of booby traps, walkers, and a crazy-### Morgan. Rick's group on the move again next season.

I like this

More like...Gov shows up at prison, blows it up to find Rick and gang gone. Rick and gang decided to leave earlier and find Milton, Tyrese and Andrea on road. Tyreese had freed Andrea and Andrea talked Milton into leaving with them. So they meet up and find their way back to Morgan where they enjoy a nice cup of tea before it's time to clear.Meanwhile back at Woodbury. The Gov army comes back sad and depressed while the gov goes back into his office to sulk. Fade to black.

The Governor and his army show up at the prison. Rick and his group put up a valiant fight, but with Merle dead, Andrea captured, and Daryl grieving, they just don't have enough firepower to hold back the Woodbury forces. Rick and his group are forced to flee, and the Governor personally aims down his rifle scope about to shoot Rick in the back, but then Lori emerges from the woods and stabs the Governor, killing him and allowing the group enough time to make their escape.

 

[bushdocda]

Here is my call for finale:Milton finds out about Andrea and frees her. Gov. kills Milton. Andrea makes it back to prison. Morgan shows up at prison. Rick and Co. leave prison knowing that the Govenor is coming to attack. Morgan stays behind to "clear" the evil Woodbury group. Gov. and Co. run into a whole lot of booby traps, walkers, and a crazy-### Morgan. Rick's group on the move again next season.

I like this

More like...Gov shows up at prison, blows it up to find Rick and gang gone. Rick and gang decided to leave earlier and find Milton, Tyrese and Andrea on road. Tyreese had freed Andrea and Andrea talked Milton into leaving with them. So they meet up and find their way back to Morgan where they enjoy a nice cup of tea before it's time to clear.Meanwhile back at Woodbury. The Gov army comes back sad and depressed while the gov goes back into his office to sulk. Fade to black.

The Governor and his army show up at the prison. Rick and his group put up a valiant fight, but with Merle dead, Andrea captured, and Daryl grieving, they just don't have enough firepower to hold back the Woodbury forces. Rick and his group are forced to flee, and the Governor personally aims down his rifle scope about to shoot Rick in the back, but then Lori emerges from the woods and stabs the Governor, killing him and allowing the group enough time to make their escape.

SPOILERZ

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Thing that bothered me is how easily the Guv took Merle out. I know he had some help early but I think Merle would've been just as ruthless and tough. He totally got owned.

The Michonne/Merle dialog was great. Allowed us to see Merle just a little different. Plus for everyone wanting to know why Michonne wasn't trying to escape, she's like Chuck Norris, she could've gotten away at any moment. She just wanted to try and now have to kill someone for a change. Had the Jedi mind trick not worked I have no doubt she would've killed Merle with a straw or something.

Yeah that bothered me as well. I thought Merle would at least get a couple of shots in but he just got destroyed.

 

[flapgreen]

Thing that bothered me is how easily the Guv took Merle out. I know he had some help early but I think Merle would've been just as ruthless and tough. He totally got owned. The Michonne/Merle dialog was great. Allowed us to see Merle just a little different. Plus for everyone wanting to know why Michonne wasn't trying to escape, she's like Chuck Norris, she could've gotten away at any moment. She just wanted to try and now have to kill someone for a change. Had the Jedi mind trick not worked I have no doubt she would've killed Merle with a straw or something.

It's easy to bite a man's fingers off.

 

[Copeman]

Thing that bothered me is how easily the Guv took Merle out. I know he had some help early but I think Merle would've been just as ruthless and tough. He totally got owned.

The Michonne/Merle dialog was great. Allowed us to see Merle just a little different. Plus for everyone wanting to know why Michonne wasn't trying to escape, she's like Chuck Norris, she could've gotten away at any moment. She just wanted to try and now have to kill someone for a change. Had the Jedi mind trick not worked I have no doubt she would've killed Merle with a straw or something.

Yeah that bothered me as well. I thought Merle would at least get a couple of shots in but he just got destroyed.

He had just gotten the #### kicked out of him by like 5 guys while has was laying on the ground outside the building.

 

[cstu]

Why would a Zombie that is feeding(Merle last night) get up and go after Daryl? Wouldn't they just keep eating and pay no mind to surroundings.

I think they have established that zombies are pretty easily distracted.

Also Merle had ADHD

Daryl does look like he has crank on him.

 

[Psychopav]

Thing that bothered me is how easily the Guv took Merle out. I know he had some help early but I think Merle would've been just as ruthless and tough. He totally got owned.

The Michonne/Merle dialog was great. Allowed us to see Merle just a little different. Plus for everyone wanting to know why Michonne wasn't trying to escape, she's like Chuck Norris, she could've gotten away at any moment. She just wanted to try and now have to kill someone for a change. Had the Jedi mind trick not worked I have no doubt she would've killed Merle with a straw or something.

Yeah that bothered me as well. I thought Merle would at least get a couple of shots in but he just got destroyed.

He had just gotten the #### kicked out of him by like 5 guys while has was laying on the ground outside the building.

Plus judging by how he was hitting that bottle, he'd had about 7 shots of whiskey.

 

[cstu]

Great episode. If Merle was on a suicide mission to get the Governor, why was he shooting the other guys? The Gov needed to be the only guy in his sights there. He just needed to spray the Governor with bullets once he was aiming at him.

Merle answered this and didn't call it a suicide mission. His plan was to get as many Woodbury guys as possible and hopefully the Governor then get out of there.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Spoilers for next week:

Spoiler

The gang throws a bachelor party for Asian Guy Who Outkicked His Coverage. After getting drunk, they bring in a "stripper", which is really just a zombie wearing a thong. Everyone's having a grand old time until the zombie's uterus falls out into AGWOHC's lap.

-The gang debates whether a zombie at the wall is/was 90's Atlanta rap impresario Jermaine Dupri. After several minutes of spirited debate, the black chick says "It's probably him...I mean we ARE at a prison, right? Get it?" The gang laughs nervously. Later, Elf Hair -- thinking it's "cool" -- asks the black chick what she misses more, Kool-Aid or her family. She socks him in the face.

-Woodbury has their first annual Connect Four tournament. Some guy that they barely show wins.

 

[bigbottom]

Spoilers for next week:

Spoiler

The gang throws a bachelor party for Asian Guy Who Outkicked His Coverage. After getting drunk, they bring in a "stripper", which is really just a zombie wearing a thong. Everyone's having a grand old time until the zombie's uterus falls out into AGWOHC's lap.-The gang debates whether a zombie at the wall is/was 90's Atlanta rap impresario Jermaine Dupri. After several minutes of spirited debate, the black chick says "It's probably him...I mean we ARE at a prison, right? Get it?" The gang laughs nervously. Later, Elf Hair -- thinking it's "cool" -- asks the black chick what she misses more, Kool-Aid or her family. She socks him in the face.-Woodbury has their first annual Connect Four tournament. Some guy that they barely show wins.

 

[cstu]

When Laurie Holden was on Talking Dead someone asked her why her character always stabs walkers in the eyes and she gave a non-answer. Last night they showed a clip of Daryl saying they were told to go for the soft spots since it shows the most gore.

 

[tdoss]

Is it possible Rick planned the Michonne abduction and she was in on it?

Just a thought, but I'm 50/50 on it. I don't think Rick would have let Daryl go look for them if that was the plan all along and I'm not convinced that Rick is quite that manipulative, but...

1. Michonne probably wouldn't normally go searching through zombie infested parts of the prison with just merle.

2. She sure didn't struggle after merle tied her up

3. She barely talks all season then decides to chat up merle about his past

4. she chooses to go back to the prison even after merle told her that rick was giving her to the gov

It's a stretch but I could almost see Rick behind this.

Rick's not behind any of it...it's the terrible writers who forgot to keep the characters in mind while writing...they plot pointed a few things they wanted to accomplish and just threw reason and logic out the window in order to accomplish those goals.

 

[stbugs]

When Laurie Holden was on Talking Dead someone asked her why her character always stabs walkers in the eyes and she gave a non-answer. Last night they showed a clip of Daryl saying they were told to go for the soft spots since it shows the most gore.

Plus, it really would be the best place to stab. If you are stabbing through the actual skull, I would think the knife could get stuck and or glance off at the wrong angle. I've never stabbed someone in the head, but I would think right through the eye would be the safest for "new zombies." For older zombies who seem to decay, it seems like now crushing the skull can be done with a strong stomp by a woman. Merle was a new zombie and Andrea, while sometimes looking like a bad ###, is really just a MLP at heart and scared of not getting a kill on the first try.

 

[Wingnut]

Again, you can't take out the bad guy before the climax, and you can't have a relatively minor character...be the one doing the killing.

I hope Boardwalk Empire is taking notes here.

 

[stbugs]

Thing that bothered me is how easily the Guv took Merle out. I know he had some help early but I think Merle would've been just as ruthless and tough. He totally got owned.

The Michonne/Merle dialog was great. Allowed us to see Merle just a little different. Plus for everyone wanting to know why Michonne wasn't trying to escape, she's like Chuck Norris, she could've gotten away at any moment. She just wanted to try and now have to kill someone for a change. Had the Jedi mind trick not worked I have no doubt she would've killed Merle with a straw or something.

Yeah that bothered me as well. I thought Merle would at least get a couple of shots in but he just got destroyed.

He had just gotten the #### kicked out of him by like 5 guys while has was laying on the ground outside the building.

Plus judging by how he was hitting that bottle, he'd had about 7 shots of whiskey.

Both good points. I was thinking Merle should have been able to slice him, but forgot about the drinks (less of an issue) and the rifle butt to his head. That would stun anyone after a bunch of shots, enough that the Governor would be able to overpower him. I still think Merle should have been able to slice him a bit, but not win the fight. Also, remember that the Governor had his gun, so if threatened at any point, he shoots Merle.

 

[pollardsvision]

Pretty torn on the indecision. I defended Rick's indecision 2 weeks ago, but with the caveat that I really didn't think there was a chance at all he'd give up Michonne. Think about it, discuss with Herschel, sure. I get it. But no way he'd actually make the decision to do it.

Of course, that indecision drove the entire plot of the episode and provided some great moments (mostly, every Merle dialogue in the episode).

Very entertaining episode and season. I just wish they'd have come up with a different way to do all of these things.

As someone else said, these writers do seem like they just write what they want to happen without really staying true to the characters in the process.

In all of the great dialogues of this episode, nobody ever said the one thing the whole audience knows and that we know every character would know (that the Gov. would kill them all anyway). Merle mentioned that they were giving her up for a chance of mercy, but there's no way he thought there really was a chance.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Maggie tries to cope with the loss of her father for half the 4th season.

For whatever reason, this made me laugh out loud

 

[parrot]

Spoilers for next week:

Spoiler

The gang throws a bachelor party for Asian Guy Who Outkicked His Coverage. After getting drunk, they bring in a "stripper", which is really just a zombie wearing a thong. Everyone's having a grand old time until the zombie's uterus falls out into AGWOHC's lap.-The gang debates whether a zombie at the wall is/was 90's Atlanta rap impresario Jermaine Dupri. After several minutes of spirited debate, the black chick says "It's probably him...I mean we ARE at a prison, right? Get it?" The gang laughs nervously. Later, Elf Hair -- thinking it's "cool" -- asks the black chick what she misses more, Kool-Aid or her family. She socks him in the face.-Woodbury has their first annual Connect Four tournament. Some guy that they barely show wins.

 

[jamny]

I don't think they zombified Merle enough.

 

[Insein]

Merle jamming to Motorhead before his mission seemed very fitting

Awesome.

I thought it odd that what was obviously a banger or pimp's car had a motorhead cd. Unless Merle just carries it around at all times... which he very well might. If it's the latter, then Merle is even more awesome in my mind.

 

[zoonation]

Here is my call for finale:Milton finds out about Andrea and frees her. Gov. kills Milton. Andrea makes it back to prison. Morgan shows up at prison. Rick and Co. leave prison knowing that the Govenor is coming to attack. Morgan stays behind to "clear" the evil Woodbury group. Gov. and Co. run into a whole lot of booby traps, walkers, and a crazy-### Morgan. Rick's group on the move again next season.

I like this

More like...Gov shows up at prison, blows it up to find Rick and gang gone. Rick and gang decided to leave earlier and find Milton, Tyrese and Andrea on road. Tyreese had freed Andrea and Andrea talked Milton into leaving with them. So they meet up and find their way back to Morgan where they enjoy a nice cup of tea before it's time to clear.Meanwhile back at Woodbury. The Gov army comes back sad and depressed while the gov goes back into his office to sulk. Fade to black.

don't think so. Someone big from both groups is going to bite it. I say Carol and the Gov (+ his right hand dude - at the hands of Darryl). Both camps will be torn apart and the crew hits the road with Tyrese and Milton joining.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Caught a few minutes of this. I didn't realize Lindsy Lohan was on the show.

 

[Insein]

Caught a few minutes of this. I didn't realize Lindsy Lohan was on the show.

Ok I'll bite. Which one is her?

 

[Buckna]

Merle jamming to Motorhead before his mission seemed very fitting

Awesome.

I thought it odd that what was obviously a banger or pimp's car had a motorhead cd. Unless Merle just carries it around at all times... which he very well might. If it's the latter, then Merle is even more awesome in my mind.

I thought that was pretty funny as well. Not like you could just tune in the local radio station.