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Official US Women's soccer thread: ***Update- Christen Press retires (1 Viewer)

looking very bleak ... the ladies need not do anything but play D and it's in the bag -

- talkin' bout my bet, not the team, of course -

 
I will never understand that. A ball is played right to your feet 12 yards from goal and instead of just thumping it she tries to control it.

 
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Thoughts...   Mewis is good.  Her distribution on offense is exactly what we're missing in the men's team.  

Rapinoe... poor game.  If she has another one like this she needs to sit.

Morgan/Lloyd... Obviously Morgan is first choice there.  I don't see her messing up that easy chance Lloyd had late.

Ravelle... Gonna be a great one.  No idea why she was subbed out early as I thought she was having the best game for the US.

Backline was amazing.  Worked together really well and had great communication.  Dunn struggled a bit in the first half, but thought she had a solid second.

 
Lindsey Horan was outstanding today.  Really impressed by her.  Julie Ertz also makes this team much better.  Hope she's back for Monday.

 
Chile needed a third goal to advance, hit the cross-bar on a penalty in the 86th minute and are now going home (Nigeria benefits and advances instead).

Round of 16

22 June 2019

Germany v Nigeria

Norway v Australia

23 June 2019

England v Cameroon

France v Brazil

24 June 2019

Spain v United States

Sweden v Canada

25 June 2019

Italy v China PR

Netherlands v Japan
If the US beats Spain, they get the winner of France v Brazil (on an extra day rest!) in Paris on 6/28.

 
So is our goalkeeper that good or are they just playing solid defense in front of her?
The only time in the group stage she really had to make a play she screwed it up and the ball ended up in the back of the net. Called back for offside. But she botched it. No telling if she's going to be a liability going forward.

 
The only time in the group stage she really had to make a play she screwed it up and the ball ended up in the back of the net. Called back for offside. But she botched it. No telling if she's going to be a liability going forward.
Yeah, she hasn't had to do much until today.  Thought she made some good decisions today.  Chile had like 1 shot on goal.  The defense has been sensational so far but bigger tests are ahead. O'Hara and Dalkhemper are so f'n good back there. 

 
So is our goalkeeper that good or are they just playing solid defense in front of her?
Defense.  Sweden is a talented team.  They aren't as good as they were 4-5 years ago, but they're still a top 10 team in the world.  There was a reason the US women were defending their shellacking of Thailand, because they knew there was a good chance Sweden could play with us and a draw was a very possible outcome.  Sweden usually give us trouble with their quickness and passing ability, but our backline and Horan were incredible at stopping their runs before they even started and the few they did have got stonewalled  quite well.  I'm not saying the Naeher wasn't part of that, but she still is truly untested in this WC so far thanks to our defense.

 
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Thoughts...   Mewis is good.  Her distribution on offense is exactly what we're missing in the men's team.  

Rapinoe... poor game.  If she has another one like this she needs to sit.

Morgan/Lloyd... Obviously Morgan is first choice there.  I don't see her messing up that easy chance Lloyd had late.

Ravelle... Gonna be a great one.  No idea why she was subbed out early as I thought she was having the best game for the US.

Backline was amazing.  Worked together really well and had great communication.  Dunn struggled a bit in the first half, but thought she had a solid second.
I'm just guessing, but I think Ellis is trying to manage her minutes.  She's struggled to stay healthy historically.  

 
I'm just guessing, but I think Ellis is trying to manage her minutes.  She's struggled to stay healthy historically.  
That sounds reasonable.  It’s not something that will really matter if/when Ertz is healthy and we have 4 top quality midfielders to switch around, but Press and Heath struggled to keep the midfield shape when they took their turns there.

 
http://theifab.com/news/temporary-dispensation-related-to-cautions-for-goalkeeper-encroachment-during-kicks-from-the-penalty-mark-at-the-fifa-womens-world-cup-2019

New rule in place for Goal Keepers - if the match goes to Pens to decide the outcome.  GKs will not receive a yellow card for encroachment during PKs to decide the game.  GKs will still receive a yellow if they encroach during a penalty in normal time.  Kicks will still be re-taken if the GK encroaches - but we don't run the risk of a GK picking up a red card if the match goes to pens.

 
http://theifab.com/news/temporary-dispensation-related-to-cautions-for-goalkeeper-encroachment-during-kicks-from-the-penalty-mark-at-the-fifa-womens-world-cup-2019

New rule in place for Goal Keepers - if the match goes to Pens to decide the outcome.  GKs will not receive a yellow card for encroachment during PKs to decide the game.  GKs will still receive a yellow if they encroach during a penalty in normal time.  Kicks will still be re-taken if the GK encroaches - but we don't run the risk of a GK picking up a red card if the match goes to pens.
I have no idea what this means.  You got a video of someone getting a yellow for this?

 
I have no idea what this means.  You got a video of someone getting a yellow for this?
"The issue of keepers being penalized by the VAR for coming off the line has been in the spotlight at the women's World Cup.

Three goalkeepers so far have been shown yellow cards in the tournament for contravening this law."

 
"The issue of keepers being penalized by the VAR for coming off the line has been in the spotlight at the women's World Cup.

Three goalkeepers so far have been shown yellow cards in the tournament for contravening this law."
Most recent example is the Scottish keeper leaving her line to stop a PK from Argentina, which would have sealed their win, IMO.  Argentina got a rekick and tied it up.  Really crappy way to decide a game, imo.  I'm not a huge soccer guy, so I'm sure the subject has been beaten to death in other threads, but this particular example infuriated me.

 
i think they did ok, no?  :towelwave:

reading about a Morgan boo-boo, along with Ertz ... nothing confirmed for Monday yet 

:popcorn:
I think both are fine.  They were precautionary moves.  You want them at full strength moving forward and when you are as deep as our girls are, you can be precautionary.  

This was fantastic game for us,” U.S. coach Jill Ellis said afterward. “When you come out of the group stage, a lot of what we talk about is mentality and being healthy and I think we’re in a really good place.”

The performance reinforced the USA’s status as the title favorite. It also left Ellis with a high-quality problem: Who will she start in Monday’s round of 16 encounter against Spain?

Ertz and Morgan are expected to start the match in Reims. Both would’ve gone the distance had this been an elimination match. The fact that it wasn’t was precisely why they were rested. Now, though, it’s all feet on deck. That means at least one of Thursday’s starters will likely move to the bench. And the leading candidate is probably World Cup rookie Samatha Mewis, who has been one of Ellis’ best players so far.

Mewis took Ertz’s usual spot in front of the back line against the Swedes, just as she had in the opener against Thailand when Ertz replaced the injured Becky Sauerbrunn at center back. She assisted on Lindsey Horan’s goal less than three minutes in – the earliest of the competition – and was dominant in the middle of the field the rest of the way.

“She just offers something elevated in that position. She can break lines on the dribble, she break lines on the pass, and she’s got a shot that I’ve been on the end of a few times and she can really get a hold of it,” said Sauerbrunn, who reclaimed her spot for the last two games after returning to fitness. “She just offers a lot of different things so it’s nice to have her in the middle of the field, because you never know how a team is going to defend against her.”

Mewis wasn’t necessarily projected as a starter before the tournament, despite her lights-out form in the lead-up to the World Cup. Now, she’s at the very least given Ellis something to think about.

“At this point, just having the depth that we need, especially in that midfield with legs, I think that’s important,” Ellis said. “We’re going to need legs.”

They’re also going to need to keep improving. As good as this game was, there’s still a feeling the U.S. hasn’t hit its ceiling. That’s a scary thought for the 15 other teams that remain in contention for the trophy.

If FIFA’s top-ranked side gets past Spain, that much-talked about quarterfinal against the host nation will follow provided France — which was far from convincing in its last two outings — gets past Brazil.

Ellis and Co. aren’t looking that far ahead. But after dispatching Sweden, one gets the sense they are eager to welcome all comers.

“I think if you’re scared to play a team in the World Cup,” midfielder Rose Lavelle said, “you honestly don’t deserve to win it.”
Boy, I would leave Mewis in there as a starter, but this just speaks to the depth of this team.  Mewis has been outstanding.

 
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Deutsche Dames at -580 vs Nigeria tmrw, but -210 to win first half ... how heavy to plunk here?  thinking the half bet is stealing money - the W bet is a lock, but the R.O.I. is straight dog####. 

meanwhile ...

Norway +240, Australia +108, draw at +260 <----- reg time on the draw, of course.

thoughts?

:popcorn:

 
Deutsche Dames at -580 vs Nigeria tmrw, but -210 to win first half ... how heavy to plunk here?  thinking the half bet is stealing money - the W bet is a lock, but the R.O.I. is straight dog####. 

meanwhile ...

Norway +240, Australia +108, draw at +260 <----- reg time on the draw, of course.

thoughts?

:popcorn:
+260 ain't a bad option, but I've found betting soccer is about as hard as any sport to try and make money wagering due to the three possible outcome scenarios.  YMMV.

 
+260 ain't a bad option, but I've found betting soccer is about as hard as any sport to try and make money wagering due to the three possible outcome scenarios.  YMMV.
yeah, i've been given an edumication these past few weeks on the footy wagering jargon of "1X2"  :D

but your point is very well taken on the regulation draw with Nords/Ozzie ... decently matched squads, it seems - might go 25 on Nord W, and hedge back wif fitty on the X. 

 
Most recent example is the Scottish keeper leaving her line to stop a PK from Argentina, which would have sealed their win, IMO.  Argentina got a rekick and tied it up.  Really crappy way to decide a game, imo.  I'm not a huge soccer guy, so I'm sure the subject has been beaten to death in other threads, but this particular example infuriated me.
this is a brand new thing.

lemme rephrase... this is a brand new idiotic thing.

 

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