B Maverick
Footballguy
I want this to go to PKs because I love PKs so much.
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Official US Women's soccer thread: ***Update- Christen Press retires (2 Viewers)
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Gold Cup is in Chicago. I am pretty sure it is a night so that should not be a problem with the WWC.
The Copa America is in Brazil but I am unsure which time zone. That might have more of an overlap chance with the Gold Cup.
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B Maverick
Footballguy
Jimmy Dugan: [interrupting] Ballplayers. I don't have ballplayers, I've got girls. Girls are what you sleep with after the game, not, not what you coach during the game.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Yeah thats what I was thinking, WWC midday then GC and CA competing for viewers in the evening. And Im in Pacific time
B Maverick
Footballguy
Thats NOT how you finish off the game!
El Floppo
Footballguy
What Andy said.
CALL THE DAMN RULE OR DONT BOTHER.
it routinely goes to about 15 seconds...what's the point.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Just looked it up. No overlap at all (all times eastern).
WWC at 11:00am
Copa America at 4:00pm
Gold Cup at 9:00pm
El Floppo
Footballguy
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Everyone was complaining about FIFA scheduling three finals on the same day but yeah, they at least got this part right. They probably had to since there are broadcasters who might have the rights to two or more of the events (like Fox does).
B Maverick
Footballguy
Euro Champs vs the American Champs for the world title
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I did not think the women had a regional championship (like the Gold Cup) in Concacaf. I must have missed it along the way.
Europe does run a nice one, as you alluded too.
Rustoleum
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
oh I know. But as the reigning world champ and best team in the region, I don't think I'm far off in my assessment.
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I a!ways liked having a zamboni come out and scrape off the injured party. Let's keep the game moving.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Will probably be a combined 35-40 million viewers for these games just in the US.
I am unsure how the early time may effect the US women's game though. I think they should draw between 25-30m alone if the hype machine goes into action. It may break the record for the most watched game ever in US if everything lines up (the start time may be the only thing that doesn't).
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Per 538, if the women win they'll have beaten the #2, #4, #5 teams in the World on foreign soil. Would be up there with the greatest runs of all time.
gianmarco
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Wow. And I don't remember the US beating two teams this good ever in the run up... With Holland still to go. They'll definitely earn it this time if they win.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
otb_lifer
Footballguy
admittedly not as big a honk as most of you fellas, but, to this nOOb eye, it seems as if they are simply hitting gears on the reg that other teams have to be at their very best to muster a couple/few times a game.
now, it's obviously not as fast moving a gig as hockey, but i remember Gretzky saying that the game began to slow down for him ... his opponents remarked that it was as if he could see 2 or 3 plays ahead of time - this is what the USWNT has impressed upon me thus far - they are in such control, and have a level of excellence that, when clicking, blows this field away.
upon my first appearing up in this thread i recall that a poster opined that USWNT could send out their second eleven and still make it to the final four. nuts.
i may be a bit ham fisted here in my praise, but the ladies have dazzled - i think they merit every last ounce of the fear and respect these opposing sides have for them.
i've loved every minute of this tourney, and im'ma hate to see it end - it's been a very entertaining and informative learning experience - i really dig feeling that way right now.
LYON, France -- Alex Morgan hit back at critics of her goal celebration against England in the World Cup semifinal, saying the controversy is proof of a double standard for female athletes.
After Morgan scored what proved to be the decisive goal in a 2-1 win against England on Tuesday, she ran toward a corner flag and mimicked drinking a cup of tea.
Speaking to the media Friday, Morgan said the celebration was partly an homage to English actress Sophie Turner. The former "Game of Thrones" star is known for Instagram stories in which she offers opinions or commentary on current events and signs off with the phrase "And that's the tea," before sipping from a cup.
As Morgan also said immediately after Tuesday's game, she reiterated Friday that the celebration was about telling a story -- in this case, of the team taking everything thrown at it during the tournament.
"I feel that there is some sort of double standard for females in sports," Morgan said, "to feel like we have to be humble in our successes and have to celebrate, but not too much or in a limited fashion. You see men celebrating all over the world in big tournaments, grabbing their sacks or whatever it is. And when I look at sipping a cup of tea, I am a little taken aback by the criticism."
Morgan also said she was disappointed that former NWSL teammate Lianne Sanderson was among those criticizing the American forward. A former England international who is working for beIn Sports during the World Cup, Sanderson said the celebration was "distasteful."
How about you celebrate your accomplishment without mocking/taunting others?
Its not a double standard. Act like you have a little class - and you'll be treated like you have a little class.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
It's totally a double-standard.How about you celebrate your accomplishment without mocking/taunting others?
Its not a double standard. Act like you have a little class - and you'll be treated like you have a little class.
Her tea sipping was in reaction to the chirping about stuff that happens in almost every mens' game played. The pinkie isn't where this started.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
They really love pushing the men vs. women angle, huh?
LYON, France -- Alex Morgan hit back at critics of her goal celebration against England in the World Cup semifinal, saying the controversy is proof of a double standard for female athletes.
After Morgan scored what proved to be the decisive goal in a 2-1 win against England on Tuesday, she ran toward a corner flag and mimicked drinking a cup of tea.
Speaking to the media Friday, Morgan said the celebration was partly an homage to English actress Sophie Turner. The former "Game of Thrones" star is known for Instagram stories in which she offers opinions or commentary on current events and signs off with the phrase "And that's the tea," before sipping from a cup.
As Morgan also said immediately after Tuesday's game, she reiterated Friday that the celebration was about telling a story -- in this case, of the team taking everything thrown at it during the tournament.
"I feel that there is some sort of double standard for females in sports," Morgan said, "to feel like we have to be humble in our successes and have to celebrate, but not too much or in a limited fashion. You see men celebrating all over the world in big tournaments, grabbing their sacks or whatever it is. And when I look at sipping a cup of tea, I am a little taken aback by the criticism."
Morgan also said she was disappointed that former NWSL teammate Lianne Sanderson was among those criticizing the American forward. A former England international who is working for beIn Sports during the World Cup, Sanderson said the celebration was "distasteful."
How about you celebrate your accomplishment without mocking/taunting others?
Its not a double standard. Act like you have a little class - and you'll be treated like you have a little class.
encaitar
Footballguy
They have to. It's their money play. The line "the American women get paid 2-3 times more than any other women's national team" doesn't get them paid. They have to keep the spotlight on the US men vs. the US women in order to get their cash. Pointing out fake hypocrisies works in their favor.
El Floppo
Footballguy
And use the brain to understand that drinking tea isn't something Sansa created and copyrighted. Might be just a little more history and cultural association to it than that. Or yeah- this shows a double standard? Wtf? Mind bottling.
LYON, France -- Alex Morgan hit back at critics of her goal celebration against England in the World Cup semifinal, saying the controversy is proof of a double standard for female athletes.
After Morgan scored what proved to be the decisive goal in a 2-1 win against England on Tuesday, she ran toward a corner flag and mimicked drinking a cup of tea.
Speaking to the media Friday, Morgan said the celebration was partly an homage to English actress Sophie Turner. The former "Game of Thrones" star is known for Instagram stories in which she offers opinions or commentary on current events and signs off with the phrase "And that's the tea," before sipping from a cup.
As Morgan also said immediately after Tuesday's game, she reiterated Friday that the celebration was about telling a story -- in this case, of the team taking everything thrown at it during the tournament.
"I feel that there is some sort of double standard for females in sports," Morgan said, "to feel like we have to be humble in our successes and have to celebrate, but not too much or in a limited fashion. You see men celebrating all over the world in big tournaments, grabbing their sacks or whatever it is. And when I look at sipping a cup of tea, I am a little taken aback by the criticism."
Morgan also said she was disappointed that former NWSL teammate Lianne Sanderson was among those criticizing the American forward. A former England international who is working for beIn Sports during the World Cup, Sanderson said the celebration was "distasteful."
How about you celebrate your accomplishment without mocking/taunting others?
Its not a double standard. Act like you have a little class - and you'll be treated like you have a little class.
El Floppo
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
She's comparing men grabbing their crotch to appropriating a cultural reference point after scoring a goal against a team?
Double standard?
And outside of the bowler dude who'd double karate chop his schwantz after striking...I can't say I've ever seen a pro soccer player score a goal and then grab his sack, let alone a in the WC semi finals.
If she were to say- look, I was referencing some BS thing Sansa says, but obviously tea is a British thing and I made mistake in the heat of the moment and didn't intend to offend the English team or their people (although again...how she would make the association is troubling)...it'd be ok. Stupid, but ok. But this is stupid, and now stupider.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
US women celebrated after scoring goals. Like 5.5/10 on the scale we see weekly.
English people and tabloids lose their ####. US WOMEN SHOULD BE MORE MANNERLY AND WHISPER ABOUT THEIR SUCCESS TO EACH OTHER ONCE THEY GET BACK TO THE HOTEL.
Alex Morgan scores against England and shows what she thinks about that.
I'm good with it.
English people and tabloids lose their ####. US WOMEN SHOULD BE MORE MANNERLY AND WHISPER ABOUT THEIR SUCCESS TO EACH OTHER ONCE THEY GET BACK TO THE HOTEL.
Alex Morgan scores against England and shows what she thinks about that.
I'm good with it.
Moe.
Footballguy
I get the impression Morgan isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer
Having said that, is there some sort of negative connotation to tea drinking that I don't know about? Seems like a pretty benign trait at which to poke fun, no? Not like this is some sort of serious social issue
Having said that, is there some sort of negative connotation to tea drinking that I don't know about? Seems like a pretty benign trait at which to poke fun, no? Not like this is some sort of serious social issue
General Malaise
Footballguy
Morgan went to Cal Berkley. She's not dumb.
But as my dad told me, more than once - "intelligent you are; smart you're not".
But as my dad told me, more than once - "intelligent you are; smart you're not".
El Floppo
Footballguy
It's about scoring a goal in a WC semifinal and then poking fun at the other team at all. Celebrate like they did against Thailand...not a problem. Make fun of the other team and country... disrespectful, and shouldn't be anywhere near the WC or national team.
Cal, Stanford.... I knew enough top athletes who clearly got in to both because of their sport and not their brains.
JaxBill
Footballguy
I follow a couple British footy writers on Twitter and it seems like the US press is more outraged and insulted than the Brits.
BBC writer-
@philmcnulty: Ridiculous that @alexmorgan13 has had to explain/defend her goal celebration against England. Was anyone actually seriously offended or angered by it? If so, they must not have very much to get offended or angered about. https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1147185872187490305
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
So they're already paid better than anyone else in their sport and they're complaining about it? To me, this point is unassailable and ends the discussion.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
you just know the USWNT officials are scripting her, and advising her about how to dodge this tempest in a TEApot (see what i did there?) - from what i've ascertained about Morgan, she is definitely biting her tongue ... i'm sure she'd much rather say something along the lines of "you're ####### A-Right it was a slag, and tough ####, if you don't like it, keep me off the scoreboard!"
yeah, our lil' superstar is a sassy firecracker, we all know that ... hell, her tagline for this WWC has been LFG! ... yeah, you figure out what that means
and here she is with O'Hara and Long, donning their (in)famous USA vs. EVERYBODY self designed tanks ... and I LOVE THIS!
they have swag and 'tude and bravado and confidence ... and, most importantly, they back it the #### up in spades.
these are badass ladies, and it's the gig of a lifetime for the whole lot - leave 'em be, if ya want prefab princesses go to ####### Disney.
#AM13 #LFG #USAvsEVERYBODY
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yeah, our lil' superstar is a sassy firecracker, we all know that ... hell, her tagline for this WWC has been LFG! ... yeah, you figure out what that means
and here she is with O'Hara and Long, donning their (in)famous USA vs. EVERYBODY self designed tanks ... and I LOVE THIS!
they have swag and 'tude and bravado and confidence ... and, most importantly, they back it the #### up in spades.
these are badass ladies, and it's the gig of a lifetime for the whole lot - leave 'em be, if ya want prefab princesses go to ####### Disney.
#AM13 #LFG #USAvsEVERYBODY
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Meh.
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otb_lifer
Footballguy
... anyways, back to more pressing matters of this morning, re: Lionesses vs the Sweet ...
how do teams usually fare in these conso games? is it a matter of simply going through the motions and just wanting to get off the pitch and get home?
i would think England gotta be the more vulnerable team, emotion wise, seeing as how they were so close vs. us - conversely, the Sweet are playing with house money, they have nothing to lose.
so, to you more savvy footy folk, what can we expect today?
Teacups -125
Draw +245
Sweets +345
how do teams usually fare in these conso games? is it a matter of simply going through the motions and just wanting to get off the pitch and get home?
i would think England gotta be the more vulnerable team, emotion wise, seeing as how they were so close vs. us - conversely, the Sweet are playing with house money, they have nothing to lose.
so, to you more savvy footy folk, what can we expect today?
Teacups -125
Draw +245
Sweets +345
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