***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2011 Off-Season Thread (1 Viewer)

[fatness]

Rich Tandler predicts 8-8, including sweeping the Eagles. April optimism is such fun. Examples:

The Texans are a team on the rise, but Shanahan is not going to start out 0-2 at home as the teacher beats his ex-student.

The Redskins’ pass rush could really be rolling by this time as the team adjusts to the new 3-4 scheme. But Aaron Rodgers was very productive last year in the face of a persistent pass rush. He will outduel McNabb in a shootout. Packers 35, Redskins 31

This game will be an indicator as to whether or not the Redskins can be true contenders going down the stretch.

The Redskins should be hitting their stride by now and will roll.

 

[fatness]

Article on Keenan McCardell learning to coach, with some compliments from the WR's and an unflattering photo.

 

[fatness]

Amid a report that Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb wants his new team to add one of his old teammates -- a guy named Terrell Owens -- and comments from agent Drew Rosenhaus indicating that T.O. would be interested, Redskins coach Mike Shanahan said that it won't be happening."I can appreciate Donovan wanting his friend back," Shanahan told ESPN's Trey Wingo on the network's schedule-release show, "but we made a decision as an organization not to go in that direction."He made it more clear moments later. "No, we will not go in that direction right now," Shanahan said.

PFT

 

[thayman]

Rich Tandler predicts 8-8, including sweeping the Eagles. April optimism is such fun. Examples:

The Texans are a team on the rise, but Shanahan is not going to start out 0-2 at home as the teacher beats his ex-student.

The Redskins’ pass rush could really be rolling by this time as the team adjusts to the new 3-4 scheme. But Aaron Rodgers was very productive last year in the face of a persistent pass rush. He will outduel McNabb in a shootout. Packers 35, Redskins 31

This game will be an indicator as to whether or not the Redskins can be true contenders going down the stretch.

The Redskins should be hitting their stride by now and will roll.

4-2 in the NFC East? I'd like to think that's possible but I doubt it. Granted lots of things can change between now and then but 8-8 is being VERY optimistic IMO.

 

[Bizkiteer]

4-2 in the NFC East? I'd like to think that's possible but I doubt it. Granted lots of things can change between now and then but 8-8 is being VERY optimistic IMO.

I would say it would be a successful season vs our NFC East if we could split DAL, PHI, and NYG. Of course, if we could sweep any of them...even better, but that's not realistic unless some injuries affect them and we were to stay crispy clean. Regardless of our overall record when all is said and done, we are moving to become a better organization and that is better than any immediate WIN.

 

[burgundy and gold]

Redskins sign nose tackle Howard Green.

Are we seeing the pattern yet?

Please reveal your secret. What is this pattern you speak of? It is not apparent to me. p.s.- no sarcasm intended, just like using that tone

He's been posting all the NT/DT signings by the Skins, suggesting that Haynesworth is on his way out.

I take it as more of an effort to find a few good men to play NT and back up DE because everybody knows that Big Als replacement is nowhere to be found on the street. The only place to look in an attempt to compensate for his loss would be in the late 1st or early 2nd round of the 2010 draft. So if they haven't identified a trade partner willing to pony up at least one of those types of picks in exchange for trading him, then they should cease and abstain from such nonsense (and the appearance thereof)! Besides they need to be worrying more about the gimpy NT they got from Carolina and old-man Daniels.

Add the injury-prone Carikker to this list. Here are a couple of links with some good info on Carriker: One very positive scouting report.One not so flattering article.

Nevertheless, that was a great trade for us. I'd take that deal any day of the week, twice on Sunday. Very impressed with the Allenahan negotiating to date.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Carriker deal is really nice. No matter how oft injured he is, that's a very low price to pay for that kind of talent.

Is this the writing on the wall that a deal has been cut around Haynesworth? Along with all the other DT moves? If Shanny has his way, it is probably part of a plan to get Fat Al's attitude off his roster and get a 2nd round pick. Hard to tell if Shanny and Allen can, or already have, pulled it off.

If they have, this has been a very impressive offseason considering what they started with (5 draft picks and no hint of playoffs next year). Leadership at QB, RBBC, more bodies on DL. They are looking like an 8-8 team or better.

 

[burgundy and gold]

Let's say: 1.01=Suh, 1.02=Okung, 1.03=McCoy. Who's BPA? Bradford?

 

[Fat Nick]

Let's say: 1.01=Suh, 1.02=Okung, 1.03=McCoy. Who's BPA? Bradford?

IF that happens, yeah, it's Bradford without a doubt. There's several teams that I think would want him, so at worst, we trade or draft and trade him back some. I don't see this happening though. And honestly, I hope it doesn't.

 

[fatness]

Let's say: 1.01=Suh, 1.02=Okung, 1.03=McCoy. Who's BPA? Bradford?

If that happens they'll probably trade down with someone who wants Bradford or Berry.

 

[Fat Nick]

Normally I would agree with that value, but unfortunately the value of players seems a bit out of whack these days. One could hope for a 3rd. One has to wonder if DET will trade the 2nd for Fat Al now too, but would love it if Fat Al was traded for Saints LT Jammal Brown (who is supposedly on the block). I doubt Rocky gets dealt as Sims is a better LB and only went for a 5th rounder. Maybe JC can fetch something though...

I'd love for the 'Skins to get to get LT J. Brown (NO) or Gaither (BAL), if we could.

Oh and of course the hotly debated possible signing of TO...WATCH OUT!!! Movers and shakers might be right!

1st part: Oh god yes...I'd want to see that too, but without a #2, unless Fat Al is involved, I don't see either happening.2nd part: Oh god no...please no. I do not want TO in DC. Period. It has nothing to do with him as a player...I just hate the guy.

 

[Sidewinder16]

I think we see Andre Carter getting traded soon. I'd like to imagine a 4-3 edge rusher who put up double digit sacks is worth at least a 3rd.

Normally I would agree with that value, but unfortunately the value of players seems a bit out of whack these days. One could hope for a 3rd.

I don't know if I'd label it "out of whack". It's simply what the market is right now. I don't think there's any way the 'Skins can get a third for Carter right now.Byron Leftwich just got moved for a 7th rounder. Are there teams out there that think Campbell is that much better than Leftwich that they'd give up a 5th round pick for him? I kind of doubt it. I think if someone offered a 6th for Campbell they'd have to jump at it right now, if they really want to move him sooner than later.

One has to wonder if DET will trade the 2nd for Fat Al now too, but would love it if Fat Al was traded for Saints LT Jammal Brown (who is supposedly on the block). I doubt Rocky gets dealt as Sims is a better LB and only went for a 5th rounder. Maybe JC can fetch something though...I'd love for the 'Skins to get to get LT J. Brown (NO) or Gaither (BAL), if we could. Oh and of course the hotly debated possible signing of TO...WATCH OUT!!! Movers and shakers might be right!

I would be surprised if Haynesworth could fetch a 2nd, but a player swap for one of those tackles would be interesting.

 

[thayman]

Let's say: 1.01=Suh, 1.02=Okung, 1.03=McCoy. Who's BPA? Bradford?

I'd assume they would try to trade back and target either Williams or Bulagua(sp?). If you are asking who they would draft I would prefer Berry.

 

[burgundy and gold]

Carriker deal is really nice. No matter how oft injured he is, that's a very low price to pay for that kind of talent.

Is this the writing on the wall that a deal has been cut around Haynesworth? Along with all the other DT moves? If Shanny has his way, it is probably part of a plan to get Fat Al's attitude off his roster and get a 2nd round pick. Hard to tell if Shanny and Allen can, or already have, pulled it off.

If they have, this has been a very impressive offseason considering what they started with (5 draft picks and no hint of playoffs next year). Leadership at QB, RBBC, more bodies on DL. They are looking like an 8-8 team or better.

I don't think it's the writing on the wall. They were after Carriker prior to the Haynesworth developments.If it is a part of plan to get rid of Al then they better do significantly more to help the d-line because I'm not confident at all in Carriker, Kemeoatu, Daniels as a starting unit. And if they do get a first or second round pick for Al, what line do they use it on.

 

[buster c]

Byron Leftwich just got moved for a 7th rounder. Are there teams out there that think Campbell is that much better than Leftwich that they'd give up a 5th round pick for him? I kind of doubt it. I think if someone offered a 6th for Campbell they'd have to jump at it right now, if they really want to move him sooner than later.

Leftwich > Campbell He was better in college, more highly regarded coming to the NFL (a top-10 pick verses JC's 2nd round grade), put life in Jax for a while, then fell out of favor and was run out of town. Hasn't had much of a chance since, but anyone who watched him light up the Skins 2 years ago on MNF should be able to tell the difference between a legit NFL QB (Lefty) and a marginal one (JC).Looks like the market for JC has been set: if we cut him, there's a chance another team may pick him up.

 

[dgreen]

Byron Leftwich just got moved for a 7th rounder. Are there teams out there that think Campbell is that much better than Leftwich that they'd give up a 5th round pick for him? I kind of doubt it. I think if someone offered a 6th for Campbell they'd have to jump at it right now, if they really want to move him sooner than later.

Leftwich > Campbell He was better in college, more highly regarded coming to the NFL (a top-10 pick verses JC's 2nd round grade), put life in Jax for a while, then fell out of favor and was run out of town. Hasn't had much of a chance since, but anyone who watched him light up the Skins 2 years ago on MNF should be able to tell the difference between a legit NFL QB (Lefty) and a marginal one (JC).Looks like the market for JC has been set: if we cut him, there's a chance another team may pick him up.

Stop. We know you hate Campbell. You don't need to take every opportunity you have to let us know over and over and over.

 

[southeastjerome]

Byron Leftwich just got moved for a 7th rounder. Are there teams out there that think Campbell is that much better than Leftwich that they'd give up a 5th round pick for him? I kind of doubt it. I think if someone offered a 6th for Campbell they'd have to jump at it right now, if they really want to move him sooner than later.

Leftwich > Campbell He was better in college, more highly regarded coming to the NFL (a top-10 pick verses JC's 2nd round grade), put life in Jax for a while, then fell out of favor and was run out of town. Hasn't had much of a chance since, but anyone who watched him light up the Skins 2 years ago on MNF should be able to tell the difference between a legit NFL QB (Lefty) and a marginal one (JC).Looks like the market for JC has been set: if we cut him, there's a chance another team may pick him up.

Leftwich is way more mistake prone and injury prone than JC. He's less accurate and he stunk last season in Tampa. He's got a stronger arm, that's about it.

 

[Marvelous]

Let's say: 1.01=Suh, 1.02=Okung, 1.03=McCoy. Who's BPA? Bradford?

I'd assume they would try to trade back and target either Williams or Bulagua(sp?). If you are asking who they would draft I would prefer Berry.

I am actually getting the impression that Shanahan/Allen may prefer Williams over Okung. Williams apparently has more upside potential.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Let's say: 1.01=Suh, 1.02=Okung, 1.03=McCoy. Who's BPA? Bradford?

I'd assume they would try to trade back and target either Williams or Bulagua(sp?). If you are asking who they would draft I would prefer Berry.

I am actually getting the impression that Shanahan/Allen may prefer Williams over Okung. Williams apparently has more upside potential.

And he's got way more bust potential. The guy was getting beat like a rented mule early on last season. In fact, I believe he was the guy responsible for getting Bradford killed in the BYU game.Okung is the closest thing to a sure thing at LT in this draft. Williams may have more upside than Okung due to his athleticism, but his floor is A LOT lower too.

I'm not going to be happy if they pass on Okung for Willimas at 1.04. Now if they trade down and draft Williams, that's a different story.

 

[buster c]

Byron Leftwich just got moved for a 7th rounder. Are there teams out there that think Campbell is that much better than Leftwich that they'd give up a 5th round pick for him? I kind of doubt it. I think if someone offered a 6th for Campbell they'd have to jump at it right now, if they really want to move him sooner than later.

Leftwich > Campbell He was better in college, more highly regarded coming to the NFL (a top-10 pick verses JC's 2nd round grade), put life in Jax for a while, then fell out of favor and was run out of town. Hasn't had much of a chance since, but anyone who watched him light up the Skins 2 years ago on MNF should be able to tell the difference between a legit NFL QB (Lefty) and a marginal one (JC).Looks like the market for JC has been set: if we cut him, there's a chance another team may pick him up.

Leftwich is way more mistake prone and injury prone than JC. He's less accurate and he stunk last season in Tampa. He's got a stronger arm, that's about it.

yet in 4 years as starter, he led them to a winning record.I know he makes Scott Mitchell look like Michael Vick, but I've always been a fan

 

[southeastjerome]

Let's say: 1.01=Suh, 1.02=Okung, 1.03=McCoy. Who's BPA? Bradford?

I'd assume they would try to trade back and target either Williams or Bulagua(sp?). If you are asking who they would draft I would prefer Berry.

I am actually getting the impression that Shanahan/Allen may prefer Williams over Okung. Williams apparently has more upside potential.

And he's got way more bust potential. The guy was getting beat like a rented mule early on last season. In fact, I believe he was the guy responsible for getting Bradford killed in the BYU game.Okung is the closest thing to a sure thing at LT in this draft. Williams may have more upside than Okung due to his athleticism, but his floor is A LOT lower too.

I'm not going to be happy if they pass on Okung for Willimas at 1.04. Now if they trade down and draft Williams, that's a different story.

Wasn't Williams the guy who got beat and his man eventually hit Bradford leading to the famous shoulder explosion?

 

[fatness]

Yes, he was. I believe it was in Williams's first game at LT, where he had been shifted from RT.

Rich Tandler on Twitter

Vinny Cerrato on @1067thefanDC: #Redskins will take Russell Okung fourth overall over Trent Williams.

Vinnie doing his best to interfere with the new front office.

 

[fatness]

While with fmr. #Redskins HC Jim Zorn today he said Albert Haynesworth can play as a "3-technique DE" by pinching in

linkAnd

Jim Zorn said he was able to count on one hand how many times Portis practiced last year.

 

[fatness]

If the Redskins had waited they could have had Roethlisberger instead of McNabb.

 

[burgundy and gold]

Jim Zorn said he was able to count on one hand how many times Portis practiced last year.

Do you have a link for this? I'd like to take a look.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

If the Redskins had waited they could have had Roethlisberger instead of McNabb.

I'd still take McNabb. This place needs a culture change more than anything. Ben isn't going to do that.If there is one mistake the new Skins brass made, it's not trading Campbell precisely when they got McNabb. His value went from 3rd rounder to a box of cookies overnight.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Jim Zorn said he was able to count on one hand how many times Portis practiced last year.

Do you have a link for this? I'd like to take a look.

Should be in one of these.

 

[burgundy and gold]

If the Redskins had waited they could have had Roethlisberger instead of McNabb.

I'd still take McNabb. This place needs a culture change more than anything. Ben isn't going to do that.If there is one mistake the new Skins brass made, it's not trading Campbell precisely when they got McNabb. His value went from 3rd rounder to a box of cookies overnight.

Depends on what kind of cookies.

 

[fatness]

Jim Zorn said he was able to count on one hand how many times Portis practiced last year.

Do you have a link for this? I'd like to take a look.

link

 

[southeastjerome]

If the Redskins had waited they could have had Roethlisberger instead of McNabb.

If there is one mistake the new Skins brass made, it's not trading Campbell precisely when they got McNabb. His value went from 3rd rounder to a box of cookies overnight.

Who knows if they would have ever gotten a 3rd rounder. While his perceived value may have changed, his actual value may have not.

 

[Dexter Manley]

If the Redskins had waited they could have had Roethlisberger instead of McNabb.

You really think Snyder would of signed off on trading for Big Ben? Say what you want about Snyder, but he seems to be one of the few owners who values players with good character.

 

[fatness]

The yearly April Optimism I've been referring to lately.

When the NFL schedule came out a year ago, The Post asked Redskins fans to predict how their team would do. We got nearly 6,000 votes. Using a weighted confidence scoring system, we determined that the team's total expected wins was 9.4. Not sure if you recall, but the Redskins wound up 4-12. Maybe the fans were overly optimistic.

Well, there's another schedule out, and again we're asking fans to predict what will happen. Turns out they're not at all deterred by last year's unsightly mess. Despite what appears to be a brutal schedule, the current total expected wins is 9.2.

 

[fatness]

If the Redskins had waited they could have had Roethlisberger instead of McNabb.

You really think Snyder would of signed off on trading for Big Ben?

Yes, I do. Roethlisberger is better than McNabb at this point and is younger. But the 1.04 would be too much to pay for him, so I think Allen would have gotten something the 1.04 for Roethlisberger and maybe upgrade our 4th round pick to a 3rd, or 5th to a 4th. The only drawback to him is that nobody knows if he's an incurable psycho who will keep doing the stuff that got him suspended, or if he'll learn from this. When he did his little press conference in front of his locker with his bad haircut I kept thinking "I'm looking at Carl Spackler's Evil Brother".

 

[dgreen]

From Keim:

Williams or Okung?

Five thoughts on LT Russell Okung and OT Trent Williams, one of whom will be picked by Washington fourth overall (right now we're hearing Williams). Based on watching some highlights of Williams and Okung and from talking to scouts and others involved in the draft process:

1. Trent Williams struggled at times to pick up the blitz (ask Sam Bradford). However, he was also new to left tackle and perhaps that was part of the adjustment he needed to make. On the play in which Bradford was hurt vs. BYU, it did not appear that Williams even saw the blitzing linebacker until it was too late.

2. I could see the athleticism scouts have been talking about with Williams. That was evident on some pass sets in the Miami game in which he reacted very well to a rusher who started out and then tried to get inside. On the other hand, he was very inconsistent in that game because he was beaten inside a couple times. Also saw him get beat wide vs. Texas. And that's the team he had to measure himself against.

3. I loved Okung. Scouts and others say he's the safer pick, but safe sometimes sounds like a negative. Smarter pick might be another phrase. I remember years ago talking to former Redskins OL coach Jim Hanifan about Tre Johnson. I said something stupid about whether or not it was good that he was a little raw. His response was, "Hell no, I want him ready to play now." Okung is ready to play now. His footwork was much more consistent, perhaps because he played the spot better -- or because he's just better. He got out on some runs and I saw him flatten a linebacker. He played with a little nasty streak, too, which is good. Chris Samuels did not have that when he came to the Redskins.

4. Okung's pass sets were better. I like the balance he set with on his drops and in his highs/lows package, I did not see any lows. He also showed the ability to pull, something I did not see from Williams (doesn't mean he didn't do it, just didn't see it in the stuff I watched).

5. Both players would fit with what Mike Shanahan wants to do in terms of his zone-blocking scheme (which the Redskins ran under Joe Bugel too). Having heard for three months now what Shanahan favors in draft picks, I would probably lean toward them picking Williams. But if it were up to me I'd take Okung. You have a quarterback who's ready to win now, don't you want a tackle who is the same?

 

[dgreen]

Sean Taylor was Eric Berry's favorite player.

 

[southeastjerome]

If the Redskins had waited they could have had Roethlisberger instead of McNabb.

You really think Snyder would of signed off on trading for Big Ben?

Yes, I do. Roethlisberger is better than McNabb at this point and is younger. But the 1.04 would be too much to pay for him, so I think Allen would have gotten something the 1.04 for Roethlisberger and maybe upgrade our 4th round pick to a 3rd, or 5th to a 4th. The only drawback to him is that nobody knows if he's an incurable psycho who will keep doing the stuff that got him suspended, or if he'll learn from this. When he did his little press conference in front of his locker with his bad haircut I kept thinking "I'm looking at Carl Spackler's Evil Brother".

I agree he's the better player with the better future ahead of him, but I'd rather have McNabb. If even 20% of what came out in that police report and those interviews is true, then I could not see myself rooting for that DB.

 

[burgundy and gold]

If the Redskins had waited they could have had Roethlisberger instead of McNabb.

If there is one mistake the new Skins brass made, it's not trading Campbell precisely when they got McNabb. His value went from 3rd rounder to a box of cookies overnight.

Who knows if they would have ever gotten a 3rd rounder. While his perceived value may have changed, his actual value may have not.

I was opposed to Ben being suspended. I've been opposed to league suspensions for any action not pertaining to football. I've felt that the league was out of bounds in this way. I also felt that society has gone over-board in it's extra-legal punishment of people in all professions. I'm big on "innocent until proven guilty" and "my mind your own business". I even said, "Vick did his time. Now leave him alone.".But I think I've actually changed my mind. I know have. Because when I started to think about the Skins trading for Ben, it turned me off. I haven't felt this way since Ray Caruth (or whatever his name is, the guy who killed his pregnant girlfriend). Maybe it's because my daughter is getting older now. I don't know. But I really just can't root for Ben right now and I don't want him as the quarterback of my favorite team. I'll probably get over it though because I'm not the most sensitive guy around.

 

[fatness]

I agree he's the better player with the better future ahead of him, but I'd rather have McNabb. If even 20% of what came out in that police report and those interviews is true, then I could not see myself rooting for that DB.

I'd rather have McNabb too, to be honest. I'm not at all convinced that Roethlisberger will change. I just thought it was ironic how 2 top-flight QB's became available in the offseason, and that if the Skins had not gotten one of them they could have gotten the other.

 

[fatness]

Vinnie badmouthing Matt Millen, possibly the only GM worse than Vinnie.

I feel like I'm watching a fight in a special education class.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I agree he's the better player with the better future ahead of him, but I'd rather have McNabb. If even 20% of what came out in that police report and those interviews is true, then I could not see myself rooting for that DB.

I'd rather have McNabb too, to be honest. I'm not at all convinced that Roethlisberger will change. I just thought it was ironic how 2 top-flight QB's became available in the offseason, and that if the Skins had not gotten one of them they could have gotten the other.

Except that it would have taken our 1st rounder to get Big Ben, while our 2nd got Run...errr......pass DMC.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Vinnie badmouthing Matt Millen, possibly the only GM worse than Vinnie.

I feel like I'm watching a fight in a special education class.

Remember, Vinny wasn't a GM.

 

[Marvelous]

Vinnie badmouthing Matt Millen, possibly the only GM worse than Vinnie.

I feel like I'm watching a fight in a special education class.

In Millen's defense, if he could have spent money like Cerrato did, maybe he could have won 4 games in a season.

 

[burgundy and gold]

Vinnie badmouthing Matt Millen, possibly the only GM worse than Vinnie.

I feel like I'm watching a fight in a special education class.

In Millen's defense, if he could have spent money like Cerrato did, maybe he could have won 4 games in a season.

Vinny was pretty damn bad but, in all fairness, Millen was the worst ever (Crapahoola incarnate!). Decent radio program IMO.

 

[fatness]

Maybe you guys are right. After all, Matt Millen never

 

[fatness]

Here are some things to know about Shanahan's draft history: In his last nine drafts in Denver, Shanahan made a trade involving a first-round pick six times. He made no such trades in his first five drafts. Shanahan loves taking offensive linemen, defensive backs and receivers. In his 14 drafts with Denver, he selected 19 defensive backs, 18 receivers and 18 offensive linemen (five tackles). In fact, there was only one draft in which he did not pick a lineman. Shanahan's draft record in Denver is spotty at best. And he developed a reputation for picking players based mostly on potential.

"You can be sure that almost every pick [makes you] say, 'Wow,' at some point when you evaluate him," former NFL scout Russ Lande said. "That's something he's big on." It led him to Brandon Marshall and Terrell Davis. It also led him to a number of mistakes. He'll often select guys coming off injuries, feeling he's getting a guy who, if healthy, would have gone higher and therefore has higher value.

But that led to first-round mistakes such as tackle George Foster and corner Willie Middlebrooks and a second-round gaffe in Paul Toviessi. All three were coming off injuries; none made an impact. Toviessi retired a year after being selected. "He'll take more risks because he wants more in return," one NFL general manager said. Said one Broncos source: "He doesn't always respect the [scouting] process. So that tends to create risk."

Shanahan has never selected higher than 11th overall. And his highest two picks in Denver were quarterback Jay Cutler (11th) in 2006 and tackle Ryan Clady (12th) in 2008. The latter already is developing into one of the best at his position. Had Shanahan stayed in Denver, the 2006 class would have gone down as a productive one for a long time. In addition to Cutler, Denver took Marshall, linebacker Elvis Dumervil and starting guard Chris Kuper.

John Keim

 

[Sebowski]

Can't see he is who I'd be targetting if ywe still had our 3rd round pick, but I like this guy

http://blog.redskins.com/2010/04/21/jeremy...eens/#continued

Jeremy Jarmon Is Not One For Coulda-Beens

Posted Apr 21st 2010 4:23PM by Matt Terl (author feed)

If things had gone differently, this would be a nerve-wracking couple of days in Jeremy Jarmon's life. If things had gone as planned, Jarmon would be one of those guys zooming up and down mock draft boards. He would've been poked and prodded at the NFL Scouting Combine,stared at during a Pro Day or private workout, and wined and dined at practice facilities across the league.

Instead, an over-the-counter weight-loss supplement cost him his final year of college eligibility and he was selected by the Redskins in the supplemental draft last year at the cost of this year's third round pick. He appeared in eleven games, accounted for eight tackles and one forced fumble, and suffered a season-ending knee injury in a November game against the Eagles.

Which is why, instead of spending today with family or friends or an agent, waiting to find out where his professional career would begin, Jarmon spent it the way he has most of the last several months: coming into the facility to rehab from his injury, working to resume a career that's already begun.

So far, the efforts seem to be going well. The training staff tells him that he's ahead of schedule, especially in the mental aspects of recovery; Jarmon says that head athletic trainer Larry Hess told him that "he's never had someone that ran without any hesitation from day 1. When I started running I just jumped right back into it, and in my honest opinion I felt like I had never stopped running."

Which figures. Jarmon used crutches less after his surgery than any player I've seen, and his response to the injury seemed to be anger more than anything else. "I don't like depending on other factors to help me out," Jarmon says. "I used [the crutches] to the point where I felt that I could do it myself."

Jarmon spent the past weekend's minicamp doing ladder drills and straight-ahead running and a lot of watching and learning, but expects to have more restrictions lifted soon. And he expects to be back full-go by training camp at the latest, possibly the final minicamp.

So he's got plenty of things to keep him busy, but that doesn't mean he's completely unaware of what could've been.

"With this draft comin' up," Jarmon says, "I have kind of thought about it a little bit, because I have some of my friends that are comin' out at UK. You know, we went in together, this was the year that we were all scheduled to come out, and I've just been thinking about that."

The thing that he wonders about most is how long he would've had to wait, especially given the new three-day, primetime draft format. "I think about what day I would've gone this year," Jarmon says. "Comin' into this last year, it was projected that I would've gone probably low first, maybe somewhere in the second, so.... It's gonna be weird once we get to Friday and the third round comes around and we don't have that pick, I'll know that technically I've been drafted."

At general manager Bruce Allen's pre-draft press conference yesterday, he noted that when the Philadelphia Eagles's 37th pick in the draft came up, "there's going to be a nice cheer that we selected Donovan McNabb this year" in the Redskins front office. Jarmon jokes that the third round should be celebrated as well.

"I think Bruce should cheer and toast bottles with Coach Shanahan," he says.

As he rehabs, Jarmon also gets to study the new defense. Which should help him in his goal of being the most multi-faceted guy on the field. "I think that how I'm used this year won't be final until training camp is over," he says. "I still feel that I'm gonna be able to help us on the D-line, I feel that I'm gonna be able to help as a linebacker, I know that I'm gonna be able to help with special teams. I'm just trying to be the most versatile player that I can be. I wanna be able to be used anywhere and everywhere."

And he swears that, temperamentally, he doesn't really mind having missed out on all that flying around and wining and dining anyhow.

"Even when I was goin' through the college process, I knew where I wanted to go to school and didn't want to waste anyone's time," Jarmon says.

"It worked out the same with with this situation. My agent, Jimmy Sexton, asked me, 'Jeremy, where do you wanna go?' And I said, 'I wanna be a Washington Redskin.' We flew up to Philly -- and they have a good program -- and then owner Dan Snyder flew me out to Colorado to meet with him and the coaches. And I knew that I wanted to be with the Washington organization. So I don't feel like I missed out on flying here, flying there, because I knew where I wanted to be. So it would've been a waste of my time, and it would've been a waste of an organization's time to fly me somewhere."

Jarmon, a smart guy and a realist, stops for a second and thinks before adding, "Then again, had it not worked out and Washington not taken me, I might be singing a different tune, but everything worked out for the best and I'm happy."

Just because he doesn't have any regrets, though, doesn't mean that Jarmon wouldn't like to be celebrated at the Draft Day Party this weekend.

"I may go in there right now," he muses, "sit down and have a nice cordial conversation with new GM Bruce Allen. May say, 'Hey, Bruce, if you don't mind, I'd like to walk across the stage with my number 76 jersey' -- even though I'm number 90 now."

(It's a typically Jarmon touch that he remembers to walk across with the number he came into the league with.) But, as seems to be the norm with him, reality reasserts itself and he can't help but wind up focused more on what he actually needs to do.

"I don't think Bruce is gonna have any of it," he says. "I think he's a little busy right now, and he'd just say, 'Jeremy, let's worry about gettin' yourself healthy and let the rest take care of itself.'"

 

[Sebowski]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/b...h-91756054.html

Late-round option » RB Montario Hardesty

He has the size favored by Shanahan at running back (6-foot, 225 pounds), and he has decent speed. It would be nice to add a change-of-pace guy like Joe McKnight, but that might not be possible. Hardesty was oft-injured at Tennessee but has talent.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/b...l#ixzz0lnpKFCe5

Sounds like a Shanny kind of guy.

 

[jbz]

Hardesty would be ideal for Shanny in the 5th. But with Portis, LJ and SWP (Slow Willie Parker) on the team, I don't think this is the year Shanny goes for the RB in the draft. Especially considering the Skins just brought in one of his past projects, the oft injured Ryan Torrain. The Skins don't have many picks in this draft so using them on a developmental RB doesn't add up IMO.

 

[southeastjerome]

Adam Schefter was on Mike and Mike this morning and he said (and I paraphrase) "For the Redskins taking the tackle is the obvious move, but let's just say they have something up their sleeve". He also mentioned that they definitely want to trade down, but it is unlikely because they don't have any partners.

 

[dgreen]

Adam Schefter was on Mike and Mike this morning and he said (and I paraphrase) "For the Redskins taking the tackle is the obvious move, but let's just say they have something up their sleeve". He also mentioned that they definitely want to trade down, but it is unlikely because they don't have any partners.

Eric Berry?