***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2011 Off-Season Thread (1 Viewer)

[Sylira21]

Scouting changes:

As the Redskins prepare to reshape their front office and scouting departments, they'll be moving forward without pro scout Don Warren and national scout Russ Bolinger.

Warren played tight end for the team from 1979-92 and returned as a member of the personnel department in 2005 under Joe Gibbs. He played a major role in scouting Washington opponents, as well as evaluating pro talent across the league.

Bolinger was the team's top national scout and joined the organization in 2005, coming from the Detroit Lions, where he spent the previous nine seasons in the personnel department. Bolinger spent 10 years playing offensive line for Detroit and the Los Angeles Rams. He played a major role in scouting college talent and making evaluations the team used on draft day.

A shake-up in the scouting department is common when a new general manager and head coach take the reins, and teams usually wait until immediately after the NFL Draft to begin making changes. Warren won't be the last one. It's believed that more changes are on the horizon among both the college and pro scouts. There will also be some changes in the front office, as well, as Coach Mike Shanahan and General Manager Bruce Allen can finally make some of their own hires in key personnel positions.

While Karl Swanson, the long-time senior vice president, was the first domino to fall this week, Warren is the more recognizable name for fans. He was named one of the 70 greatest Redskins in 2002 and spent his entire career in burgundy and gold. He played in four Super Bowls under Gibbs. Between his playing career in Washington and his scouting career here, Warren coached football and baseball in Centreville.

There's probably never a good time to let an employee go, but May 5 is also Warren's birthday. He turns 54 today.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...nger-out-a.htmlAnd that takes us to page 53!

 

[dgreen]

Any DC Skins fans know how often channel 9 showed the Ravens games? And do they run them opposite the Skins or only when the Skins are playing at another time? I'm gonna be moving to VA this fall & am wondering if I'll have to take out a 2nd mortgage to get the Sunday Ticket since I'll only get the Washington channels. If 9 shows most of the Ravens games, I may be able to get by without the Ticket.

We get a lot of Ravens games. It's the CBS game more often than not. I think the NFL has rules that you can't air another game at the same time if that market's team is playing at home, so you might just miss out on the games when they play at the same time the Redskins have a home game.

 

[buster c]

“As far as the conversation about LaVar. I lost a lot of respect for LaVar at that moment, speaking at Sean’s funeral. To get up, I really thought that was, umm, I don’t know what you call that. LaVar ain’t know Sean like that. For the people who did seeing how LaVar was going to portray — I remember me and Sean was going to jump LaVar, you know, for throwing pie at Sean’s face his rookie year, and trying to haze Sean, and be the tough guy. He felt like it was a joke. We didn’t like that S***. For all the attention LaVar claim, and that him and Sean was cool — they wasn’t cool. Sean ain’t F*** with LaVar. Sometime, people should STOP (long pause) I don’t think you should do that. If you cool with somebody, or you know somebody, you knew ‘em. Don’t go and portray, set out an image like ’this is your buddy, this is your pal’ like you all hung, when y’all really didn’t. I don’t think that’s fair man.”

this takes CP to new depths on the human scale. I hereby deem #26 to be Human Excrement.Lavar was asked by the family to speak and he spoke beautifully - something CP is incapable of, btw. So what if they didn't hang together at da clubs. As one of the guys on the radio said this am 'is CP claiming some sort of exclusivity on grieving?' What a tool! To purport to represent someone who is not alive to set the record straight speaks volumes to CP's character. Or total lack thereof.

 

[fatness]

What's wrong with this page besides all the PR and Lawyer talk?

This page's margin's are too wide.

P. 52 looks fine to me?

 

[fatness]

this takes CP to new depths on the human scale. I hereby deem #26 to be Human Excrement.

Good lord you're funny sometimes. You get caught up in this stuff like some people get caught up in soap operas, and then base your football opinions on the soap opera.

 

[fatness]

Bruce Allen will be on ESPN980 at 1 pm today, which is about in 15 minutes.

Link

 

[fatness]

I didn't know Andy Pollin had a blog.

If you're up for some non-football, mostly non-sports reading, this one might interest you. Especially if you have kids.

 

[fatness]

From another one of Pollin's blog entries.

Check out the picks that the Redskins didn't have in the last decade: 2001 - 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th2003 - 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th2004 - 2nd, 4th, 7th2005 - 2nd, 3rd2006 - 1st, 3rd, 4th2007 - 2nd, 3rd, 4th2008 - 1st, 5th2009 - 2nd, 4th

 

[Sebowski]

What's wrong with this page besides all the PR and Lawyer talk?

This page's margin's are too wide.

P. 52 looks fine to me?

Me too.

 

[buster c]

this takes CP to new depths on the human scale. I hereby deem #26 to be Human Excrement.

You ---base your football opinions on the soap opera.

if that was the case, wouldn't I have criticized his football ability?Over the years I've consistently praised and defended CP as a warrior on the field. Look it up. And done so even as I've always thought he was sketchy as a person. His latest outburst is detestable. But if he's a better option than LJ or FWP, then give him the rock.I don't mind commenting on the drama, but I rely on my eyes to judge football. You of all people shouldn't question that.

 

[Marvelous]

I just saw Jamarcus Russell was cut by the Raiders. Any chance Shanahan brings him in to see if there is any potential? From PFT:

It won't be easy for Russell, but surely there's at least one coach out there who thinks he can do a better job than Lane Kiffin or Tom Cable did with a player who has an All-Pro arm, but a Pop Warner work ethic.

 

[buster c]

I hear it's a return to gold pants. Was it 1977 when they last wore these?

 

[Sebowski]

I just saw Jamarcus Russell was cut by the Raiders. Any chance Shanahan brings him in to see if there is any potential? From PFT:

It won't be easy for Russell, but surely there's at least one coach out there who thinks he can do a better job than Lane Kiffin or Tom Cable did with a player who has an All-Pro arm, but a Pop Warner work ethic.

This from PFT made me think it wouldn't be a terrible idea

Florida State head coach Jimbo Fisher coached a different JaMarcus Russell when they were together at LSU."I never knew that guy," Fisher said on ESPN 760, talking about the lazy player Russell has become. "His work ethic for us -- everything I ever asked him to do, he did. He was smart, he carried three and four play packages at the line of scrimmage."Fisher, like others, pointed to the passing of Russell's mentor and Uncle Ray as a possible obstacle Russell struggled to get over."He is very talented and he is very intelligent," Fisher said. "Intelligence isn't an issue with him."Based on the pre-draft reports we remember, Russell's football smarts were never a question.

Does he have a higher upside than Brennan? If he does, bring him in. McNabb and Shanny might be good for him.

 

[southeastjerome]

I just saw Jamarcus Russell was cut by the Raiders. Any chance Shanahan brings him in to see if there is any potential? From PFT:

It won't be easy for Russell, but surely there's at least one coach out there who thinks he can do a better job than Lane Kiffin or Tom Cable did with a player who has an All-Pro arm, but a Pop Warner work ethic.

This from PFT made me think it wouldn't be a terrible idea

Florida State head coach Jimbo Fisher coached a different JaMarcus Russell when they were together at LSU."I never knew that guy," Fisher said on ESPN 760, talking about the lazy player Russell has become. "His work ethic for us -- everything I ever asked him to do, he did. He was smart, he carried three and four play packages at the line of scrimmage."Fisher, like others, pointed to the passing of Russell's mentor and Uncle Ray as a possible obstacle Russell struggled to get over."He is very talented and he is very intelligent," Fisher said. "Intelligence isn't an issue with him."Based on the pre-draft reports we remember, Russell's football smarts were never a question.

Does he have a higher upside than Brennan? If he does, bring him in. McNabb and Shanny might be good for him.

Please God no.

 

[fatness]

Does he have a higher upside than Brennan? If he does, bring him in. McNabb and Shanny might be good for him.

I don't see the harm in giving him a tryout. There are plenty of people currently on the roster who won't make the team. The worst case scenario if he gets a tryout is that he's cut, like many others.

 

[fatness]

Linebacker Rocky McIntosh is a restricted free agent. The Redskins applied to him a second-round tender, which makes him eligible for a one-year contract worth $1.759 million. And McIntosh doesn't like it. So he hasn't signed it. And he has stayed away from offseason workouts.But on the same day the Redskins announced the arrival of veteran linebacker Chris Draft, McIntosh has decided to report for "work." We're told (and Adam Schefter of ESPN also has reported) that McIntosh has signed an injury protection letter and will join the offseason program. Per a league source, the move is being made solely for the purposes of kick-starting talks aimed at working out a long-term deal.

PFT

 

[fatness]

Also, before minicamp began this morning, the Redskins added one more piece to the puzzle, signing free agent linebacker Chris Draft. Draft, a 12-year veteran, played last season in Buffalo, starting three games and appearing in all 16. He was credited with 45 tackles, a sack and an interception. Draft is also considered a special teams contributer.

Draft, who's listed at 5-foot-11, 232 pounds, has played all the linebacker spots, so he's versatile and could be plugged into a few roles in Washington's revamped defense.

LB Chris Draft signed.

 

[Marvelous]

Does he have a higher upside than Brennan? If he does, bring him in. McNabb and Shanny might be good for him.

I don't see the harm in giving him a tryout. There are plenty of people currently on the roster who won't make the team. The worst case scenario if he gets a tryout is that he's cut, like many others.

Or Russell could try out and not even be offered a contract, like dozens of people Shanahan has brought in over the past few months. I think Shanahan has talked to every potential football player out there. Not that I am complaining.

 

[buster c]

"There was thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people who were affected by Sean Taylor's death. They did not have to know him, they did not have to be his best friend to cry, to be upset, to be hurt, to be affected by someone as special as Sean Taylor being taken away as early as he [was].

"Do I know Sean as well as Clinton or 'Tana or any of those guys that went to school with him? No, nor would I claim that I do. I never portrayed myself as being Sean's best friend. What I will say is Sean was very much a person that I got to know during the course of the time that I was there, and developed a mutual respect and I would even say a mutual love for one another, so much so where what was my fiancée at the time and his girlfriend -- ended up being his fiancée -- they met, became cool.

"And even to this day, I still keep up with baby Jackie and big Jackie, to this day they're really good friends. My wife and Jackie and our daughters play together to this day. So I don't feel the need to try to justify my relationship with Sean Taylor. It's no need for that. People are gonna say what they're gonna want to say. I don't think that this is even a situation where people need to take sides. People are trying to paint this picture that you need to take Clinton's side or take my side. It's not about no taking no sides. It's not even about that. It's very petty, if you ask me. Very petty, and unfulfilling."

"If you interpreted it the wrong way, where you feel like I attacked you or I said something the wrong way, look, I'll be the first one to tell you I apologize. I apologize for that. Because this isn't what things are supposed to be. I've hugged your mother. I've kissed your mom . I've broke bread with your mom, your dad. I've hung out with your family. I've been to your house on numerous occasions. You've been to my home on numerous occasions.

"I mean, it's strange to me. Whatever it is that may have turned you this way towards me, to me it's very sad. It's very sad. And I just hope that at some point, you'll find clarity in whatever it is that you're feeling and whatever it is that you're thinking, and possibly we can sit down as men without this playing out over the airwaves and on the internet and over ESPN or Pro Football Talk or anywhere else....

"So I'm not inclined to attack you. I'm not inclined to sit here and come with some type of forceful nature, to try to condemn you and tell you what you need to do and what you don't need to do. The bottom line is, man, you were my friend, you were my family, and for whatever it's worth, wherever this is coming from, wherever this has come from, what you need to do is talk to me. Like, we need to talk....

It's one thing to question my leadership and question if I played for money or if I played for the love of the game. I mean, that;s fine. That's fine. But to question something about somebody who has passed away? You'll never be able to take away the fact that he was my teammate just like he was your teammate. And regardless if I hung out with him as much as you did or anybody else did, we had our own relationship, just like everybody else that was on our defensive unit. We had our relationship.

"That doesn't mean I have to talk to him every day, doesn't mean he has to talk to me every day, but the bottom line is, we went to war together, we went through a lot of things together that I'm sure you weren't even privy to knowing, along with the other guys that I played with on that defensive unit. And if anybody on the defensive unit is listening, I'm sure they know exactly what it is that I'm talking about. So I'll leave it alone at that. And like I said, I just hope and I pray that whatever clarity that it is that you're searching for or that you need in your life, I hope you find it, man. I hope you find it. I hope you find it."

Lavar

 

[fatness]

Sounds like Arrington wants to bury the hatchet with Portis, and it's really about time he did so. He and Riggins both made themselves look like assclowns bashing the guy, mainly for the reason that he got lots of publicity and money playing for the Skins which is something each of them miss.

 

[buster c]

Sounds like Arrington wants to bury the hatchet with Portis, and it's really about time he did so. He and Riggins both made themselves look like assclowns bashing the guy, mainly for the reason that he got lots of publicity and money playing for the Skins which is something each of them miss.

you're in the minority on that one, pal. most folks I know - as well as the assclowns who post on the internet and call sports radio - are/were in the bashers corner. CP's play fell off a cliff last year and it was not simply because of the line play. he as much admitted it himself.

 

[fatness]

you're in the minority on that one, pal. most folks I know - as well as the assclowns who post on the internet and call sports radio - are/were in the bashers corner. CP's play fell off a cliff last year and it was not simply because of the line play. he as much admitted it himself.

Arrington and Riggins both bashed Portis when he was playing well. They were jealous old men, not liking a younger guy doing well and getting some of the spotlight they used to get. The fact that Portis got hurt last year had nothing to do with why they were bashing him.The minority is people who call him human excrement.

 

[fatness]

The remaining players -- undrafted rookies, more than two dozen in all -- will be participating in the minicamp as tryouts. The team hasn't released the names of this group, but it's expected to include Arizona State linebacker Mike Nixon, UTEP cornerback Melvin Stephenson II, Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark, Troy running back Maurice Greer, Eastern Arizona defensive tackle Marques Slocum, Murray State wide receiver Derrick Townsel, Massachusetts running back Tony Nelson, Stanford safety Bo McNally, Wisconsin linebacker Jaevery McFadden and Colorado State safety Klint Kubiak.

For the players on hand for tryouts, the six draft picks and the four undrafted free agents who've signed with the Redskins -- UCLA tight end Logan Paulsen, LSU running back Keiland Williams, Liberty defensive end Trey Jacobs and Ohio State safety Anderson Russell -- Friday's initial practice session could be a rude awakening.

LinkBTW, the team has uniforms ready for 110 players for this minicamp.

 

[fatness]

Based on my conversations with people close to Haynesworth, the only thing that would change the all-pro's position, at this point, is if the Redskins said they would stick with a 4-3 scheme and permit him to attack the quarterback as he pleases. But the Redskins plan to use Haynesworth as a space-eating nose tackle, two people familiar with the situation said, meaning he would primarily be responsible for occupying multiple blockers.

That is just stupid.Link

 

[fatness]

Minicamp is closed to the press but here's a tiny bit of information on it from Rick Maese:

Link

Cool picture.

More cool pictures

 

[fatness]

An article by Matt Terl, on the Redskins' website, giving the company line on why offensive line players don't have to be good in order to have a good offensive line.

Matt Terl is OK, I do enjoy some of his writing. But that article is more PR and hope than information.

 

[buster c]

you're in the minority on that one, pal. most folks I know - as well as the assclowns who post on the internet and call sports radio - are/were in the bashers corner. CP's play fell off a cliff last year and it was not simply because of the line play. he as much admitted it himself.

Arrington and Riggins both bashed Portis when he was playing well. They were jealous old men, not liking a younger guy doing well and getting some of the spotlight they used to get. The fact that Portis got hurt last year had nothing to do with why they were bashing him.The minority is people who call him human excrement.

I don't think they're jealous old men. they want the Skins to do well and see punk ### #####es like CP & DH not respecting the game and it pisses them off. From reading your posts, I get the impression that you never played team sports and don't understand these dynamics. you strike me as an individual sports guy, like a sumo wrestler

 

[thayman]

you're in the minority on that one, pal. most folks I know - as well as the assclowns who post on the internet and call sports radio - are/were in the bashers corner. CP's play fell off a cliff last year and it was not simply because of the line play. he as much admitted it himself.

Arrington and Riggins both bashed Portis when he was playing well. They were jealous old men, not liking a younger guy doing well and getting some of the spotlight they used to get. The fact that Portis got hurt last year had nothing to do with why they were bashing him.The minority is people who call him human excrement.

I don't think they're jealous old men. they want the Skins to do well and see punk ### #####es like CP & DH not respecting the game and it pisses them off. From reading your posts, I get the impression that you never played team sports and don't understand these dynamics. you strike me as an individual sports guy, like a sumo wrestler

It has seemed that Riggins has had an axe to grind against Portis for several years.

 

[fatness]

punk ### #####es

Quality stuff there, buster.

 

[Sebowski]

Based on my conversations with people close to Haynesworth, the only thing that would change the all-pro's position, at this point, is if the Redskins said they would stick with a 4-3 scheme and permit him to attack the quarterback as he pleases. But the Redskins plan to use Haynesworth as a space-eating nose tackle, two people familiar with the situation said, meaning he would primarily be responsible for occupying multiple blockers.

That is just stupid.Link

Reid is just being an ### again. The media just loves picking on Haynesworth. Every quote from Haynesworth himself has been complimentary towards the new staff. He has even said in plain terms that he is fine with playing in a 3-4. Here is one of those direct quotes from a source so close to Haynesworth it's actually Haynesworth himself! http://www.backsportspage.com/beyond-the-a...th-part-ii.html

“At first I was a little iffy to it because I’ve never played in the 3-4. I don’t have a clue to how it’s really played. But then I talked to him a little bit and he plans on just playing me in the middle a little bit and at end. I guess I’ll just move around and just wreak havoc; so as long as we’re doing that and I’m not just at one position, I’m fine, I’m fine with it.”

I guess Reid has better sources than the man himself though..... Who cares what he has to say about it. That isn't a good story.

 

[Sebowski]

you're in the minority on that one, pal. most folks I know - as well as the assclowns who post on the internet and call sports radio - are/were in the bashers corner. CP's play fell off a cliff last year and it was not simply because of the line play. he as much admitted it himself.

Arrington and Riggins both bashed Portis when he was playing well. They were jealous old men, not liking a younger guy doing well and getting some of the spotlight they used to get. The fact that Portis got hurt last year had nothing to do with why they were bashing him.The minority is people who call him human excrement.

I don't think they're jealous old men. they want the Skins to do well and see punk ### #####es like CP & DH not respecting the game and it pisses them off. From reading your posts, I get the impression that you never played team sports and don't understand these dynamics. you strike me as an individual sports guy, like a sumo wrestler

 

[Sidewinder16]

Trent Williams has a classic "Welcome to the NFL, rookie" moment:

Trent Williams won't likely forget his first snap wearing a Redskins' helmet. The rookie left tackle, who lined up with the first-team offensive line, learned right away that the NFL is different from college football.

Center Casey Rabach snapped the ball, and, suddenly, Williams was surrounded by commotion.

"Everybody was gone," Williams said. "I was still in my stance."

 

[DCThunder]

you're in the minority on that one, pal. most folks I know - as well as the assclowns who post on the internet and call sports radio - are/were in the bashers corner. CP's play fell off a cliff last year and it was not simply because of the line play. he as much admitted it himself.

Arrington and Riggins both bashed Portis when he was playing well. They were jealous old men, not liking a younger guy doing well and getting some of the spotlight they used to get. The fact that Portis got hurt last year had nothing to do with why they were bashing him.The minority is people who call him human excrement.

I don't think they're jealous old men. they want the Skins to do well and see punk ### #####es like CP & DH not respecting the game and it pisses them off. From reading your posts, I get the impression that you never played team sports and don't understand these dynamics. you strike me as an individual sports guy, like a sumo wrestler

It has seemed that Riggins has had an axe to grind against Portis for several years.

Riggins has had an axe to grind against the entire Redskins organization (and especiaqlly Danny and Vinny) for many years. Now that Vinny is gone and Danny is in the background, his axe has shifted to CP. Not that there's anything wrong with that. While CP may not be "human excrement", he's not everyone's idea of a "core Redskin".

 

[southeastjerome]

you're in the minority on that one, pal. most folks I know - as well as the assclowns who post on the internet and call sports radio - are/were in the bashers corner. CP's play fell off a cliff last year and it was not simply because of the line play. he as much admitted it himself.

Arrington and Riggins both bashed Portis when he was playing well. They were jealous old men, not liking a younger guy doing well and getting some of the spotlight they used to get. The fact that Portis got hurt last year had nothing to do with why they were bashing him.The minority is people who call him human excrement.

I don't think they're jealous old men. they want the Skins to do well and see punk ### #####es like CP & DH not respecting the game and it pisses them off. From reading your posts, I get the impression that you never played team sports and don't understand these dynamics. you strike me as an individual sports guy, like a sumo wrestler

 

[TxBuckeye]

you're in the minority on that one, pal.

I think LHucks already trademarked this schtick.

 

[Bizkiteer]

per roto: Citing unnamed NFL sources, ESPN 1500 AM in Minneapolis-St. Paul reports Albert Haynesworth is interested in joining the Vikings.

This, of course, does not mean that a trade is around the corner. Haynesworth still wants out of D.C., but there have been no known talks between the two teams. The Vikings are in danger of losing the Williams Wall for four games, but Kevin Williams will come back to claim the three-technique position after his potential suspension. For now, Haynesworth and the Redskins are stuck with each other.

Hadn't heard of Minny's interest until now. It would be interesting in who or what could the 'skins get in return from the Vikings. I just wish the Fat Al drama would end one way or another...either him participating and being shipped out. It's truly tiresome at this point!

 

[fatness]

you strike me as an individual sports guy, like a sumo wrestler

:bows:

 

[fatness]

Riggins has had an axe to grind against the entire Redskins organization (and especiaqlly Danny and Vinny) for many years. Now that Vinny is gone and Danny is in the background, his axe has shifted to CP. Not that there's anything wrong with that. While CP may not be "human excrement", he's not everyone's idea of a "core Redskin".

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I wonder who exactly is a "core Redskin". Jason Campbell was one. Rock Cartwright was one. Is Philip Daniels still one? He's 38 or 39 and wouldn't be starting for most NFL teams. Is Cooley a "core Redskin", or is he just a popular guy? Fletcher probably is because he works so hard, but his skills are declining and didn't he skip one or more OTA's? Has McNabb been annointed a "core Redskin" because he's the newest shiny acquisition? Cornelius Griffin was one. The team needs players who can play. If a "core" player is on the bench and/or can't start for another team, perhaps they have the wrong core.

 

[fatness]

Considered a first-round bust as a tackle, Mike Williams has resurrected his career with the Redskins. Williams has a promising future in the league as a guard, Coach Mike Shanahan says, and Williams is the Redskins' first-team right guard. He has continued to strengthen his standing during the first two days of the second voluntary minicamp.

Things are going well for Williams, who eventually got it figured out. "I get it now," he said after practice Saturday at Redskins Park. "It took some time for me to get it, but it's just that simple. I know what it takes now. ... I really didn't workout before in the offseason. I was one of those guys. But I know what it takes now. I know what it takes to be at this level and to be the best player you can. Now, I spend all my day in the weight room. Why? Because I know what this job requires. It took me some time, but I get it."

332-pound Mike Williams

 

[fatness]

players here on tryouts

Shay Hodge is a wide receiver from Mississippi who was rated the 25th-best prospect at his position by NFLScout.com. Last year he caught 70 passes for 1,135 yards and eight touchdowns.

Anyone know anything about this guy?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

players here on tryouts

Shay Hodge is a wide receiver from Mississippi who was rated the 25th-best prospect at his position by NFLScout.com. Last year he caught 70 passes for 1,135 yards and eight touchdowns.

Anyone know anything about this guy?

He ran a 4.62. :X

 

[fatness]

Link

TOP UNDRAFTED FREE AGENTS BY POSITION

WIDE RECEIVERS

Jeremy Williams 6-0, 206 4.64 Tulane San Diego

Blair White 6-2, 210 4.55 Michigan State Indianapolis

Danario Alexander 6-5, 215 4.58 Missouri (X)

Shay Hodge 6-1, 210 4.62 Mississippi San Francisco

 

[fatness]

84. Shay Hodge, WR, Ole Miss - Hodge was very productive in the SEC, and while he doesn’t have elite tools, his size and quickness are a good foundation for an NFL future if he develops more toughness and consistency.

Bloom

 

[thayman]

Considered a first-round bust as a tackle, Mike Williams has resurrected his career with the Redskins. Williams has a promising future in the league as a guard, Coach Mike Shanahan says, and Williams is the Redskins' first-team right guard. He has continued to strengthen his standing during the first two days of the second voluntary minicamp.

Things are going well for Williams, who eventually got it figured out. "I get it now," he said after practice Saturday at Redskins Park. "It took some time for me to get it, but it's just that simple. I know what it takes now. ... I really didn't workout before in the offseason. I was one of those guys. But I know what it takes now. I know what it takes to be at this level and to be the best player you can. Now, I spend all my day in the weight room. Why? Because I know what this job requires. It took me some time, but I get it."

332-pound Mike Williams

I'm interested to see how Williams progresses through mini-camps. After last year I had the impression that they only were holding onto Williams because of Vinny's stubborness.

 

[buster c]

Considered a first-round bust as a tackle, Mike Williams has resurrected his career with the Redskins. Williams has a promising future in the league as a guard, Coach Mike Shanahan says, and Williams is the Redskins' first-team right guard. He has continued to strengthen his standing during the first two days of the second voluntary minicamp.

Things are going well for Williams, who eventually got it figured out. "I get it now," he said after practice Saturday at Redskins Park. "It took some time for me to get it, but it's just that simple. I know what it takes now. ... I really didn't workout before in the offseason. I was one of those guys. But I know what it takes now. I know what it takes to be at this level and to be the best player you can. Now, I spend all my day in the weight room. Why? Because I know what this job requires. It took me some time, but I get it."

332-pound Mike Williams

I'm interested to see how Williams progresses through mini-camps. After last year I had the impression that they only were holding onto Williams because of Vinny's stubborness.

yeah, me too. especially since the zone-blocking scheme, as I understand it, utilizes smaller & quicker linemen. Mike Williams does not fit that profile.

 

[fatness]

The only thing I can figure out is that they're done with Williams at tackle, that he's lost enough weight to regain enough foot speed to play guard, and that he's continued working like hell. I just don't know if he's good enough to be a starting NFL guard, or if they just don't have anyone else who is.

 

[thayman]

The only thing I can figure out is that they're done with Williams at tackle, that he's lost enough weight to regain enough foot speed to play guard, and that he's continued working like hell. I just don't know if he's good enough to be a starting NFL guard, or if they just don't have anyone else who is.

I agree with this. However I was expecting Williams to be cut after Shannahan signed on.

 

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The only thing I can figure out is that they're done with Williams at tackle, that he's lost enough weight to regain enough foot speed to play guard, and that he's continued working like hell. I just don't know if he's good enough to be a starting NFL guard, or if they just don't have anyone else who is.

I agree with this. However I was expecting Williams to be cut after Shannahan signed on.

I was too. So apparently he progressed enough in run blocking last year that Shanahan felt he was valuable after reviewing all the film. Williams was lousy in pass blocking last year, so he'll have to pick that up this year to keep McNabb from getting creamed. But maybe his improved conditioning will allow him to do that --- the knock on his pass blocking was that he was just way too slow. If Williams is our starting guard and even performs "average", my hat will be off to him. I never thought he'd be capable of that.

 

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Mike Wise column

Albert, the people you play with think you're a bad teammate.

Wise quotes no Redskin players who had said that.

"From what I'm told, he can play the end spot," Daniels said. "I've called him and told him that.

 

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Well, let's go over a few notes from the weekend:

-- Players are continuing to recover from injuries. Both receiver Santana Moss and Phillip Daniels recently underwent offseason arthroscopic surgery, but both expect to be back before long. Mike Shanahan said he hoped linebacker Andre Carter (biceps) and nose tackle Maake Kemoeatu (Achilles) would be ready for the team's June 1 OTA. And he said he hopes Jeremy Jarmon (knee) would be ready in time for training camp.

Rick MaeseI think Devin Thomas was hurt (again) and couldn't participate, btw.