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I was joking. You've really heard this suggested?Reports are that the team believes in Grossman (at least as much as a team can possibly believe in him) and doesn't believe in Beck. I think they'd have something to lose in terms of morale if they did that.Believe it or not, I have heard it from multiple "talking heads" on sports radio and TV shows. Not that that makes them credible football minds or anything, but I have in fact heard it, yes. I don't know about the morale thing, but I think if you thought that playing multiple QBs -- like teams will swap rbs situationally -- actually gave you the best chance to win, then you should do it. As for morale, winning fixes morale more than anything else. If they used two and started winning, I don't think that morale would suffer just because of loyalty to Grossman. So the key question is, would it help you win.
Yikes. I might have to load up on Dallas -7 if these 2 guys are starting.
thiswhether or not we as owners of the team would hire a younger more hungry coach of the Harbaugh(s), Schwartz variety does not matter. it's critical to continue to roll with the Shannys for at least 2 more seasons. if we're closing out the 2013 season not confident a game can be won in November or December, then maybe you change course. but not before then.'Sidewinder16 said:
Shanny will live and die by whatever QB he drafts this year.
watching USC - ORE and am caring less and less that this disaster of a season will not likely yield Luck. My eyes can see that Matt Barkley is going to be a stud NFL QB. we must get him.'thayman said:
I'm a huge fan of Luck, but I would be quite happy with Barkley. Still alot of 3-6 and 4-5 teams out there who knows where we will end up picking
Everyone around here is pretty convinced Barkely is staying for another, non-probation, year.
I like him. My order of preference would be:1. Luck2. Barkley3. Griffin III4. JonesI was happy not taking Gabbert this past year because of how strong this year's group of QBs is.
That's how I probably have them ranked too. They should land one of them.
This team really shouldn't have to worry about LB for a few years. They can go the vet FA route to replace Fetcher when that time comes and continue with Riley, Orakpo, and Kerrigan. That's at least one area they don't have to worry about in the draft for a while.
I like how you call him "meangelo" when he's taking responsibility for his poor play. Did you actually read his quotes?
I suppose you could take it that way. I think it's another headline grab. the more relevant quote from the link is this reader comment:'ConnSKINS26 said:
all this said, he has improved his tackling ever since Jake Delhomme jocked him for a game loser two years ago - I'll give him that
I have a hard time equating the fortunes of two entire franchises, Atlanta and Oakland, on the presence or absemce of one cornerback. Talk about over-inflated sense of worth! Geez...Hall is OK, he has his strengths and weaknesses, and yes, he likes the limelight. That being said, he is one of the few Skins who is an actual playmaker right now, and our secondary is weak enough as is. I seriously think our problems go a little bit beyond D. Hall.
Didn't Polumbus discover Bolivia? Or Landover, or something?
The Ravens game was on in my area so of course they blacked out the Skins game. But what you said about their effort was echoed by several reporters on radio and several online reporters, and it's something that makes me happy. They just seemed so dead the last several weeks.'dgreen said:
I think they already have with Keyaron Fox.'dgreen said:'southeastjerome said:
I was very "meh" about this game up until about the 2nd quarter. As sad as it sounds, I think it's a positive that they were simply competitive in this game and had opportunities to win it.'dgreen said:
True, he's one possibility. I don't think he's under contract beyond this year, though. In fact, I think Fletcher is also due to be a FA.I think they already have with Keyaron Fox.'dgreen said:'southeastjerome said:
You're right. Good points.So, this might be a fun game at this point in the season. The following are the current Redskins whose contracts expire at the end of this season (for the most part, according to this site). Who gets re-signed and who do they let walk?True, he's one possibility. I don't think he's under contract beyond this year, though. In fact, I think Fletcher is also due to be a FA.I think they already have with Keyaron Fox.'dgreen said:'southeastjerome said:
A lot of interesting choices. I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I'm fine with bringing Grossman back as the bridge to the hot, young rookie QB.I think Landry will be the toughest decision.
True. On the other side it's not a good day when your season's over before Thanksgiving and you're focused on next year already.
On that list, I see only 3 players that other teams would consider above average at their positions: Landry, Fletcher, and Davis.
Not a Dominique Byrd fan?In all seriousness, Lichtensteiger was working out very well before his injury. Assuming recovers well, I'd like to see him back. I'd also like to see Fox, Landry and Davis back. I still think Landry is a stud SS. I really think his achilles has held him back this year. Would be nice to have Fletcher back as long as it is a short deal. I think Gano's fate depends on how he does from here on out.
You have to consider the fact that the Redskins still have so many needs, they can not afford to just dump players because they are not "superstars." Even if someone is a legitimate backup player, that makes them extremely valuable. That said, here is my take:Laron Landry -- keep for sure (some down on him for the injury, but do we really want to add this to our "urgent need list?")You're right. Good points.So, this might be a fun game at this point in the season. The following are the current Redskins whose contracts expire at the end of this season (for the most part, according to this site). Who gets re-signed and who do they let walk?True, he's one possibility. I don't think he's under contract beyond this year, though. In fact, I think Fletcher is also due to be a FA.I think they already have with Keyaron Fox.'dgreen said:'southeastjerome said:
Laron Landry
London Fletcher
Tim Hightower
Sean Locklear
Adam Carriker
Phillip Buchanon
Rocky McIntosh
Rex Grossman
Fred Davis
Donte Stallworth
Keyaron Fox
Kedric Golston
Will Montgomery
Kareem Moore
Kory Lichtensteiger
Graham Gano
Byron Westbrook
Dominique Byrd
Tashard Choice
That's one thing that a responsible team considering signing Landry would do this offseason --- have him thoroughly examined to see if his Achilles and other injury problems are chronic, and not just flukes. I think teams overlook stuff like this too often and don't find out about significant physical issues that will continue to affect a player's play, until they're signed. Rogers' eyesight comes to mind; I'm sure there are other examples as well. If Landry has something chronic going on that makes him likely to be repeatedly injured he's still worth bringing back, but for less money and fewer years (less team risk). As for Gano, they better hold on to him. Nick Novak and Sean Suisham are doing just fine since the Redskins cut them. They historically cut kickers too quickly. I blame Andy Pollan for this.'southeastjerome said:
While I agree he was doing better than last year, I don't think any NFL team would evaluate him as anything above average. And I think some of them would evaluate him below that level.That's the problem with bad play over a period of years. When someone becomes adequate us poor suckers following bad teams think they're actually good.'southeastjerome said:
I agree completely. With so many needs, the Redskins shouldn't create more needs by dumping adequate players. Only consider dumping someone if you've got an upgrade available. "Just get somebody else" or "just get rid of him" isn't an upgrade, it's a way to go slowly downhill.'MikeApf said:
I don't think "starter money" is a concern here. He's not going to get that. Anywhere. He's not getting it this year. Even if you want a rookie to start week one in 2012, I think it would be good to have one vet QB on the roster who can help the rookie with the offense.'MikeApf said:
IMO, the only "lock" (the only guy I'd put money on being back in a 'Skins uniform next season) is Davis.I think 'Steiger, Montgomery, Carriker, Hightower, Grossman, Golston and Gano are very likely to return.
It will be a great chance to see how Allen conducts business.
Really? He didn't light the world on fire earlier this year, but you don't think he's better than Grossman or Beck? I'm sure they don't want to spend the $$ if they are set to pick Barkley or something, but you talk as if he is a total bum. I do not agree with that at all.
Well, first of all, I doubt he'd have ANY shot at all at starting a game this year. Yes, I think Grossman for the remainder of this season would be better than Orton. And, second, they're going to draft a QB in round 1 next year. Given that, I see no need to have Orton in 2012.
Originally I thought the Redskins could put in claim on Orton. But he apparently has a sizable contract (PFT said $2.5M remaining for the year). I think the Redskins will stick with Grossman until the Qb they draft is ready to start.
It should make sense to anyone who watches football. Campbell is a better QB than Grossman.
They'd be stupid not to. Put in a claim, sign him for the rest of the year at a cost of $1.3 million, let him practice and learn the almighty 'system', and see if he looks better than Beck or Grossman (or both) by the offseason. Orton did have a ####load of passing yards for a bad McDaniels team; I'm not sure why people forget that or discount that. Somehow capable players turn into "why bother?" and borderline players like Lichtensteiger and Perry Riley turn into excitement-generators when discussing players in terms of the Redskins. It's like bizarro world or something. It sure isn't what the rest of the league sees.
I'm really happy to see Hall stepping up and taking responsibility.
