RnR
Footballguy
Almost sounds like we should put it off a few weeks. This is prime vacation season.
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RnR
Footballguy
Fair enough. I just find it refreshing and potentially insightful. A chance to get us away from "sim fishing", "spreadsheet hunting", and all the other
things that have brought interest down in the past few editions. I understand if not everyone feels that way. Only thing I ask for is that it be something more creative than "2005-2009" and not "dice roll for twelve seasons, use the best 8, multiply by 2, and then you get the 3rd season." 
Detroit Fan 365
Footballguy
is this full if not I want in.
RnR
Footballguy
Just think its a lame move. No hard feelings or anything, sweetheart.Sorry I touched a nerve
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I kind of agree with RnR about already having lived that era. My only real interest in a modern sim would be the speculative sim Eephus described. We will do that at some point, but probably not this time. Maybe pre-2011.
Eephus
Footballguy
Sorry for dropping out of the thread I started. My mom died two weeks ago and pretend baseball slipped down my priorities list.We could always do another split era league. I believe we did this before with modern batters and deadball pitchers, although we may just have talked about it. 05-09 pitching staffs with high HR/9 numbers and modern bullpens might be interesting to combine with batters from the deadball era or 1920-41.Spartans Rule said:
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
If Detroit fan wants in, let him please. I will play if needed but I'd probably rather sit this one out.
Eephus
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit Fan?
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
How about 2000-2009 pitching staffs with 1920-1929 hitters?
Eephus
Footballguy
We only need five years of pitching season due to expansion. Depending on whether we have a 16, 20 or 24 team league, we may need to open the 20s era up by a couple of years in order to have a deep enough pool.
oso diablo
Footballguy
sorry to hear that, GB.
Detroit Fan 365
Footballguy
Thats good because I leave for a mini vacation on the 24th and won't be back until the 27th.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I have many in real life who are female and fat. They call themselves the dirty detroit docettes.
Doug B
Footballguy
"Sim fishing" and "spreadsheet hunting" aren't going anywhere, especially not in a rookie-season draft. We'll still pull lists from WIS.com, make spreadsheets, and see just what the best rookie seasons really are. Kills a lot of the well-known cookies, though.There's no concievable non-random format that eliminates sim-fishing and spreadsheet use.Fair enough. I just find [the rookie-season concept] refreshing and potentially insightful. A chance to get us away from "sim fishing", "spreadsheet hunting", and all the otherthings that have brought interest down in the past few editions.
RnR
Footballguy
I think taking away an easy searchable "era" where in the click of a mouse you have + numbers, log numbers, and everything else you'll ever need will change the dynamic. I don't doubt the :X power of some of you to run through tireless hours of assembling the best rookie seasons into a spreadsheet. I'm sure that will happen. If that's your prerogative, more power to you. No matter what the research method used to figure out which rookies are best, I'm 100% sure that all of us will learn something new and I'm also 100% sure this draft won't be "cookie cutter" because everyone is using the same spreadsheet."Sim fishing" and "spreadsheet hunting" aren't going anywhere, especially not in a rookie-season draft. We'll still pull lists from WIS.com, make spreadsheets, and see just what the best rookie seasons really are. Kills a lot of the well-known cookies, though.There's no concievable non-random format that eliminates sim-fishing and spreadsheet use.Fair enough. I just find [the rookie-season concept] refreshing and potentially insightful. A chance to get us away from "sim fishing", "spreadsheet hunting", and all the other
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
My concern for doing something that requires oodles of research to do is this: Does anyone have the stomach for that anymore?
Maybe if we all had the drive we had back in WIS I, maybe so. But it seems as each WIS goes on, it seems like interest dwindles and dwindles. I mean, we barely got 20 people interested in this go-around.
I can understand avoiding a recent era for the lack of being able to learn anything. That's why we try to find some era that we haven't tackled yet (have we done 1910's yet in any sims?) or making some combo (I suggested an All-Coors Deadball league in the last sim).
One thing that I don't think we've done is a sim that centered around one stadium or one particular park factor.
Maybe if we all had the drive we had back in WIS I, maybe so. But it seems as each WIS goes on, it seems like interest dwindles and dwindles. I mean, we barely got 20 people interested in this go-around.
I can understand avoiding a recent era for the lack of being able to learn anything. That's why we try to find some era that we haven't tackled yet (have we done 1910's yet in any sims?) or making some combo (I suggested an All-Coors Deadball league in the last sim).
One thing that I don't think we've done is a sim that centered around one stadium or one particular park factor.
Hoos First
Footballguy
Lets just have 2 themes. We can have the rookies in AL and the 05-09 in the NL. We will prob need a salary cap though. And add that no rookie seasons can be drafted of players that played from 2005-2009
oso diablo
Footballguy
i lost in the first round 3-2 to this team. He went on to win the championship.
Doug B
Footballguy
Looks like several folks will be unavailable during this month (and maybe next month, too). Seems to be pushing back the date of critical mass.
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
:X
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
While those of us who can't afford vacations sit around and wait for those that do, Doug B triggered something in my mind when he said the words "critical mass".
What if we tried an auction with one of these drafts? We'd either need to do it live ( :X ) or do it slow (which means Eephus might be dead by the time it's over).
I'm not suggesting it as a serious option here, just a hypothetical.
What if we tried an auction with one of these drafts? We'd either need to do it live ( :X ) or do it slow (which means Eephus might be dead by the time it's over).
I'm not suggesting it as a serious option here, just a hypothetical.
RnR
Footballguy
Only way something like that works is if Nipsey returns.While those of us who can't afford vacations sit around and wait for those that do, Doug B triggered something in my mind when he said the words "critical mass".What if we tried an auction with one of these drafts? We'd either need to do it live (
Eephus
Footballguy
Getting a slow auction site could double the cost of entry. Running a message board auction for 600 players would be a fiasco on the level of BP. It could probably only work with a very limited era player pool because auctions only work well where scarcity is a factor.Summer is a bad time to run a draft. There are currently no drafts active on page one of the FFA.While those of us who can't afford vacations sit around and wait for those that do, Doug B triggered something in my mind when he said the words "critical mass".What if we tried an auction with one of these drafts? We'd either need to do it live () or do it slow (which means Eephus might be dead by the time it's over).I'm not suggesting it as a serious option here, just a hypothetical.
Doug B
Footballguy
Are there a bunch of potential drafters going on vacations between July 4th and Labor Day? Was thinking that July 6th through mid-August would be a good time to get this thing fired up. Try to get it in before fantasy football preparation/drafting starts in earnest.
Koya
Footballguy
Sounds like a well reasoned approach. Im in.
Doug B
Footballguy
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Not sure I'll have much time at the new job I start Monday. We'll see.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
We're going to do this for 2011. No idea about the overall future of WIS leagues here, but we gotta do this once.
Hoos First
Footballguy
Im still ready to play soon
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Personally, I think this should be a winter tradition and nothing more. That's the time when we start aching for baseball, no one's going anywhere on trips, and it's too cold and/or snowy out to go out and do anything besides stay indoors and play on the internets.
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Detroit Fan 365
Footballguy
I'm still in
RnR
Footballguy
It may be, but it's going to take a mass PM to bring everyone back over here.I'd say if we can settle on a theme, a commish, and a start date (early October)... a quick PM to all the people that signed up should get this thing rolling.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I'm still in.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
So, what are we doing here?
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
The way I see it, we've got two options:1. Rookies only (re-read the thread for more info)2. A simple short-era draft just to get things rolling againEveryone who wants to play, state your preference and we can get moving.I'm voting for rookies, though I could go either way.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
I vote simple short-era draft.
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Hoos First
Footballguy
in, doesnt matter to me
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Short Era
