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[Limp Ditka]

Real nice start to the 2011 campaign of Scott Sizemore

 

[Greco]

streaking

 

[meeka]

streaking

Is the 3 spot a good spot for Boesch. He should see better pitches there ahead of Cabrera, and putting Magglio at 6 stretches out the lineup. Does this lineup stick as long as Boesch keeps hitting?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

streaking

Is the 3 spot a good spot for Boesch. He should see better pitches there ahead of Cabrera, and putting Magglio at 6 stretches out the lineup. Does this lineup stick as long as Boesch keeps hitting?

That lineup last night made the most sense of any I've seen this year.Which means you will never see it again.

 

[Apple Juice]

The Tigers are weird.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The Tigers are weird.

Yes they are.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Tigers are weird.

Yes they are.

If you told me they would go 3-7 on a Mariners at home, Indians away and Yankees home stand I would have doubted it. If you told me all three of the wins would come vs the Yankees, I would have laughed at you. Mariners might be the worst team in the AL and the Indians are about to go 12-40 here pretty soon. Losing six in a row to those teams is unacceptable, beating the Yankees three of four is, in fact, weird.

 

[Limp Ditka]

The Tigers are weird.

Yes they are.

If you told me they would go 3-7 on a Mariners at home, Indians away and Yankees home stand I would have doubted it. If you told me all three of the wins would come vs the Yankees, I would have laughed at you. Mariners might be the worst team in the AL and the Indians are about to go 12-40 here pretty soon. Losing six in a row to those teams is unacceptable, beating the Yankees three of four is, in fact, weird.

Yankees aren't a good team. Hell, even the White Sux (Yeah, I said it) split 4 with them in NY last week.3-4-5 are monsters, CC's a true ace and Mo's Mo.The other 20 guys on the roster are basically a bunch of crap.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Tigers are weird.

Yes they are.

If you told me they would go 3-7 on a Mariners at home, Indians away and Yankees home stand I would have doubted it. If you told me all three of the wins would come vs the Yankees, I would have laughed at you. Mariners might be the worst team in the AL and the Indians are about to go 12-40 here pretty soon. Losing six in a row to those teams is unacceptable, beating the Yankees three of four is, in fact, weird.

Yankees aren't a good team. Hell, even the White Sux (Yeah, I said it) split 4 with them in NY last week.3-4-5 are monsters, CC's a true ace and Mo's Mo.The other 20 guys on the roster are basically a bunch of crap.

Well they'll win the AL East and probably have the best record in the AL. I would like them to fail but it seems people are underestimating them, probably playing right into their hands. Tigers still stink though, let's be clear about that.

 

[Apple Juice]

The Tigers are weird.

Yes they are.

If you told me they would go 3-7 on a Mariners at home, Indians away and Yankees home stand I would have doubted it. If you told me all three of the wins would come vs the Yankees, I would have laughed at you. Mariners might be the worst team in the AL and the Indians are about to go 12-40 here pretty soon. Losing six in a row to those teams is unacceptable, beating the Yankees three of four is, in fact, weird.

Yankees aren't a good team. Hell, even the White Sux (Yeah, I said it) split 4 with them in NY last week.3-4-5 are monsters, CC's a true ace and Mo's Mo.The other 20 guys on the roster are basically a bunch of crap.

Maybe, but they're still superior to the Mariners. After watching the Tigers seem to get their #### together only to get throttled by Seattle and piss away three winnable games to Cleveland, seemed like they simply didn't have the pieces to put it all together on a consistent basis. Now, who knows? Porcello has given up 6 runs in his last four outings, Max has been dominant and I have no worries about Verlander. Bullpen looks pretty good. Line-up looks better with Sizemore and Martinez, and with Bosch at 3 and Magglio at 6. The defense will remain horrid but I feel good enough about the pitching to say that the season will be decided on how well this reassembled line-up can produce. Sure looks better than Cleveland's, but then again so does Chicago's and Minnesota's.

 

[MAC_32]

Maybe, but they're still superior to the Mariners. After watching the Tigers seem to get their #### together only to get throttled by Seattle and piss away three winnable games to Cleveland, seemed like they simply didn't have the pieces to put it all together on a consistent basis. Now, who knows? Porcello has given up 6 runs in his last four outings, Max has been dominant and I have no worries about Verlander. Bullpen looks pretty good. Line-up looks better with Sizemore and Martinez, and with Bosch at 3 and Magglio at 6. The defense will remain horrid but I feel good enough about the pitching to say that the season will be decided on how well this reassembled line-up can produce. Sure looks better than Cleveland's, but then again so does Chicago's and Minnesota's.

I think Cleveland is legit, but if Sizemore has developed into the #2 hitter we need I think we can come back. We have too many holes to deal with the gaping one at 2B and the 2 hole but if he can fill that need we may have a shot.I'm not as optimistic about the pen as you but it's not horrible, I still think our defense keeps us from winning the division though. Just real frustrating to not have an identity, 3 years ago we were the offensive juggernaut with no defense and it didn't work...then we over corrected and focused on defense but then sacrificed too much offense...now we over corrected again and the defense is awful again. The difference between this one and 2008 is this one may have the pitching to overcome it, we'll see. Porcello and Max have to keep this up and someone on the farm needs to come up and help sometime this summer - Oliver? Furbush? I hope we don't rush Turner, but we've done it before and if the others aren't doing it we may back ourselves into a corner.It'll be frustratingly entertaining regardless, just cover your eyes when any balls are hit to Jay-Honey and Raburn. Oof.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I hope Valverde ends up on the DL with chest bruises.

Gives up 2 hits and a run in a non save op, yet this guy's out there pounding his chest like the alpha male in a pack of apes when he gets the last out.

Papa Grande Douchebaggo.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Wonder what the Mets are gonna want for Wright? Gonna have to trade one of the young arms for sure, maybe two. I'd probably do it and maybe they'll take Inge back if we pay some of the salary.

 

[igbomb]

Great game JV! Fun to watch. Now next time do it at home.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Wish he would have got the perfect game, but he now has two of the seven no hitters in franchise history.

 

[Greco]

I thought the curveball to Arencibia in the 8th should have been called strike 3.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

so with Justins second, how many people have at least 2? gotta be select company. Nolan ryan has what 7?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

so with Justins second, how many people have at least 2? gotta be select company. Nolan ryan has what 7?

Only five pitchers have ever thrown more than two:RyanKoufaxCy YoungBob FellerLarry Corcoran24 have done it twice, so yeah it's pretty select company.

 

[whoknew]

How in the world is Gene Lamont still the 3b coach?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Maggs is essentially an auto out these days. Why would you continue to slot him 3rd? If he breaks out, let him breakout in the seven hole and move up VMART and Miggy. Cost them a run there (that and AJAX also being awful).

 

[MAC_32]

Wonder what the Mets are gonna want for Wright? Gonna have to trade one of the young arms for sure, maybe two. I'd probably do it and maybe they'll take Inge back if we pay some of the salary.

His numbers look great, but it seems like he accumulates a lot of them the same way that Peralta does - cheaply, usually in situations that don't have a baring on the outcome of the game. I'd like to have him, but I don't want to trade the future for him either.

 

[skillz]

Maggs is essentially an auto out these days. Why would you continue to slot him 3rd? If he breaks out, let him breakout in the seven hole and move up VMART and Miggy.

No kidding. Leyland drops Maggs down for the Wed. game vs. the Yankees and he proceeds to hit his first HR of the season. I thought they should just leave him down in the lineup but, of course, Leyland moves him back up to 3.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Maggs is essentially an auto out these days. Why would you continue to slot him 3rd? If he breaks out, let him breakout in the seven hole and move up VMART and Miggy.

No kidding. Leyland drops Maggs down for the Wed. game vs. the Yankees and he proceeds to hit his first HR of the season. I thought they should just leave him down in the lineup but, of course, Leyland moves him back up to 3.

I would have BB 3rd, Avila 6th, Maggs 7th, JP 8th, Inge 9th.

 

[whoknew]

Al Al is awesome.

 

[Apple Juice]

Al Al is awesome.

Loving watching the kid pitch. Slider is so ridiculous I'm always nervous he'll struggle to control it, but somehow he manages. Only way he can give up run is if he walks somebody in, that pitch is unhittable, pure filthy.

 

[MAC_32]

I'm sorry, it must be my prejudice against fat people but I can't stand watching Valverde pitch. Get hurt already and give Alburquerque the 9th.

 

[igbomb]

I'm sorry, it must be my prejudice against fat people but I can't stand watching Valverde pitch. Get hurt already and give Alburquerque the 9th.

With Benoit struggling and Perry unable to finish one inning with an 8-run lead, let's not be in a hurry to thin out the bullpen anymore than it already is. Thanks.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I would have loved to hear George Kell say the name "Al Alburquerque".

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

back to .500

Time to put Phil Coke back in the pen and bring up a kid to start?

 

[skillz]

Time to put Phil Coke back in the pen and bring up a kid to start?

They should but won't. The pen scares me with Benoit struggling and Perry a mess. Schlereth is also unproven although he has been doing well lately. Would be nice to have another proven arm like Coke's in the pen - we could upgrade the pen and not lose anything by pulling him from the rotation. We could also send Brad Thomas packing too by making the move. Al Al may end up saving the pen for us if he keeps it up. Love that guy! What a pleasant surprise.It was nice to see all the run support from the lineup considering Cabrera didn't do much the entire series. Other bats are finally stepping up. The roller coaster ride continues...

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I would have loved to hear George Kell say the name "Al Alburquerque".

And Kaline could have added that Al has "good arm strenth."

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Ok that's it, Maggs needs to be benched UFN. This is getting ridiculous and Leyland hitting him 3rd is obnoxious.

 

[Apple Juice]

Ok that's it, Maggs needs to be benched UFN. This is getting ridiculous and Leyland hitting him 3rd is obnoxious.

No question about it. Exactly what I said after that at-bat. Enough is enough. Hitting your worst hitter who can't run in the three hole every night is indefensible.

 

[igbomb]

Ok that's it, Maggs needs to be benched UFN. This is getting ridiculous and Leyland hitting him 3rd is obnoxious.

No question about it. Exactly what I said after that at-bat. Enough is enough. Hitting your worst hitter who can't run in the three hole every night is indefensible.

Batting him third is the most egregious part of this. I get that they were facing a lefty, but I still can't believe that Boesch was batting 7th (career 0.416 wOBA against lefties) and Avila was ninth (after Inge!).Stop playing the matchups and bat them Boesch/Cabrera/Martinez/Avila until someone starts to slow it down. Even Peralta should be batting ahead of Maggs right now. Though I still wouldn't go so far as to relegate him to the ninth hole rightfully owned by Inge.

 

[meeka]

Ok that's it, Maggs needs to be benched UFN. This is getting ridiculous and Leyland hitting him 3rd is obnoxious.

You know it is bad when the last guy you want at the plate with the bases loaded and only 1 out is your #3 hitter. Even Inge striking out at least gives another guy a shot.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Ok that's it, Maggs needs to be benched UFN. This is getting ridiculous and Leyland hitting him 3rd is obnoxious.

No question about it. Exactly what I said after that at-bat. Enough is enough. Hitting your worst hitter who can't run in the three hole every night is indefensible.

Batting him third is the most egregious part of this. I get that they were facing a lefty, but I still can't believe that Boesch was batting 7th (career 0.416 wOBA against lefties) and Avila was ninth (after Inge!).Stop playing the matchups and bat them Boesch/Cabrera/Martinez/Avila until someone starts to slow it down. Even Peralta should be batting ahead of Maggs right now. Though I still wouldn't go so far as to relegate him to the ninth hole rightfully owned by Inge.

Too high for Avila. He's got to worry about catching the game first and foremost. I would bat him ahead of Maggs though.Jackson/Sizemore/Boesch/Miggy/Martinez/Peralta/Raburn/Avila/Inge would be my choice. If Maggs plays and Raburn is out, then stick him behind Avila and just ahead of Inge.

 

[igbomb]

Ok that's it, Maggs needs to be benched UFN. This is getting ridiculous and Leyland hitting him 3rd is obnoxious.

No question about it. Exactly what I said after that at-bat. Enough is enough. Hitting your worst hitter who can't run in the three hole every night is indefensible.

Batting him third is the most egregious part of this. I get that they were facing a lefty, but I still can't believe that Boesch was batting 7th (career 0.416 wOBA against lefties) and Avila was ninth (after Inge!).Stop playing the matchups and bat them Boesch/Cabrera/Martinez/Avila until someone starts to slow it down. Even Peralta should be batting ahead of Maggs right now. Though I still wouldn't go so far as to relegate him to the ninth hole rightfully owned by Inge.

Too high for Avila. He's got to worry about catching the game first and foremost. I would bat him ahead of Maggs though.Jackson/Sizemore/Boesch/Miggy/Martinez/Peralta/Raburn/Avila/Inge would be my choice. If Maggs plays and Raburn is out, then stick him behind Avila and just ahead of Inge.

I'm not buying that his place in the lineup will have any influence on how he calls the game. Guys like Pudge, Mauer and Victor have been batting top five their whole careers and do just fine behind the plate.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

What's sad is almost every lineup I've seen posted here is better than what we end up getting.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Detroit

A. Jackson CF 0-1

S. Sizemore 2B 0-1

B. Boesch RF 0-0

M. Cabrera 1B 0-0

V. Martinez DH 1-1

R. Raburn LF 0-1

A. Avila C 0-0

R. Santiago SS 0-0

B. Inge 3B 0-0

this lineup isnt terrible

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

 

[igbomb]

Victor is red-hot right now. Three straight 3 for 4 games, with 2 HRs and 4 2Bs over those three.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Minneapolis —Once again, Joel Zumaya got promising news Tuesday. And once again, the news didn't square with a 26-year-old pitcher's chronic pain in his right elbow.

Zumaya was examined by James Andrews, the celebrated orthopedic surgeon, during a session in Pensacola, Fla.

"Nothing to indicate any problem," said Kevin Rand, the Tigers' head athletic trainer. "Basically, they cleaned out the joint. He'll be re-evaluated in six weeks."

Rand said Andrews removed a screw that was placed in the Tigers reliever's elbow last July after Zumaya fractured the tip of his elbow during a game in June. A new "headless screw" was inserted to guard against any irritation that might have stemmed from the first placement.

Rand said it was "too early" to determine if Zumaya is officially finished for the season. The Tigers had said last month that any chance Zumaya might return in 2011 was remote, at best.

In other Tigers medical updates, infielder Carlos Guillen is being further evaluated as he attempts a recovery from last year's microfracture surgery on his right knee. Guillen's rehabilitation continues and there is no timeline for any immediate return to manager Jim Leyland's lineup.

Also, the Tigers said that last year's second-round draft pick, Drew Smyly, a left-hander from the University of Arkansas, is recovering from flexor tendinitis and is on a steady recovery schedule.

Smyly was shut down at the end of April because of pain in his left elbow. An examination determined there was no structural damage. Once his rehabilitation stint ends, Smyly is expected to rejoin the Tigers' Single A team at Lakeland, Fla.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110511/SPORTS0104/105110398/Tigers’-Zumaya-gets-some-promising-medical-news#ixzz1M6WXwOZK

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Victor is red-hot right now. Three straight 3 for 4 games, with 2 HRs and 4 2Bs over those three.

found Victor a theme song

 

[Greco]

benoit better get his #### together.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I like this Verlander guy, he seems like he's pretty good.

 

[Greco]

Magglio on 15 day DL for right ankle weakness and Dirks was called up.

 

[igbomb]

Magglio on 15 day DL for right ankle weakness and Dirks was called up.

I would love for a healthy Maggs to start knocking the ball around, but putting him on the DL is the best thing for this team right now. And that is one young outfield now. Jackson, Raburn, Boesch, Wells and Dirks. Bunch of kids.

 

[Apple Juice]

Magglio on 15 day DL for right ankle weakness and Dirks was called up.

I would love for a healthy Maggs to start knocking the ball around, but putting him on the DL is the best thing for this team right now. And that is one young outfield now. Jackson, Raburn, Boesch, Wells and Dirks. Bunch of kids.

Love it. DH Raburn when Victor catches. Anything to keep him away from the outfield. Looking forward to seeing what Dirks can do. Hopefully Leland will play Bosch every day and bat him third indefinitely. Club looks good right now. Cleveland can't keep winning by one every game forever can they?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

If the starting pitching continues to be strong, they are going to win the division. Penny is meh sometimes, good sometimes, terrible every once in a while and great every once in a while. That by definition is a #5 starter on a good team, so he's giving the team what it needs. Coke is up and down and Porcello is quietly pitching well.

Plus they aren't chasing the White Sox or Twins right now, they are chasing the Indians. Other people think they are for real, but I think their pitching takes a giant dump in the second part of the season.

 

[skillz]

If the starting pitching continues to be strong, they are going to win the division.

Starting Pitching heading into today's game:25 quality starts (tied for 2nd in AL)17 wins (tied for 2nd in AL).241 Opponent Batting Avg. (3rd in AL)7.19K/9 IP (2nd in AL)Penny has been lights out lately. I still don't have faith he can stay healthy all season but I will take whatever I can get from him. He's been a big upgrade over the likes of Bonderman or Galarraga from last year.