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Da Guru
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Fatigue in the second inning?? Sounds more like a rotator cuff issue. Whatever..it is not good.
Doctor Detroit
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Ouch, Berry just hurt his shoulder, I'll wait for Guru to give me the prognosis. Broken leg maybe?
Limp Ditka
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Im guessing it's one of his spleens.
Doctor Detroit
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He does have three.Why is Leyland using Benoit in an 8-2 game? What a dip#### he's been with this bullpen lately.
Anthony Borbely
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Don't look now, but Miggy is making a serious run at the triple crown. First in average, first in RBI, only 2 HR behind.
Doctor Detroit
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MAX MRI showed no structural damage
Da Guru
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Possible lower ab strain while stretching full out before impact may have contributed to the body position that led to the shoulder injury... of course I have no medical data at all to back that up...
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Da Guru
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Miggy has had enough of that Trout MVP talk. Two horse race from here on in and Miggy is the favorite.
Doctor Detroit
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Shoulder contusion, X-Rays are negative. Stick to your day job.
Da Guru
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DD you provide good insight at times but you really need to get over yourself...
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tri-man 47
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lol ...that's what I was thinking. Miggy said 'enough of this,' then went out and did something about it. Wow.
Doctor Detroit
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Well saying Scherzer's injury sounded like a rotator cuff issue isn't really insight, so maybe that's where the disconnect is.
Da Guru
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When a power pitcher goes out of the game in the second inning with a shoulder injury I am thinking the worst. Shoulder injuries basically means rotator cuff injuries/strains. HTF do I know exactly what is wrong? I was just speculating because of the times I have seen pitchers leave games early with shoulder problems. More often than not it is very serious.Well saying Scherzer's injury sounded like a rotator cuff issue isn't really insight, so maybe that's where the disconnect is.
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Doctor Detroit
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That was my question.When a power pitcher goes out of the game in the second inning with a shoulder injury I am thinking the worst. Shoulder injuries basically means rotator cuff injuries. HTF do I know exactly what is wrong? I was just speculating because of the times I have seen pitchers leave games early with shoulder problems. More often than not it is very serious.Well saying Scherzer's injury sounded like a rotator cuff issue isn't really insight, so maybe that's where the disconnect is.
He didn't get pulled when he was on the mound, so maybe he just went back to the dugout and Rand asked him if he was feeling ok because of something he saw. So he didn't come back in the third, so obviously not a good thing. Seems like with rotatar cuffs there is tangible pain and a gradual decline over the course of one game or more. Labrum probably not as much, that one can take a while to get worse and guys will try to get through partial tears. I thought Labrum at first but given the way he looked tonight and recently, thought maybe it was just shoulder fatigue as they said.Plus I was just giving you ####.
Da Guru
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And I was giving you chit back!That was my question.When a power pitcher goes out of the game in the second inning with a shoulder injury I am thinking the worst. Shoulder injuries basically means rotator cuff injuries. HTF do I know exactly what is wrong? I was just speculating because of the times I have seen pitchers leave games early with shoulder problems. More often than not it is very serious.Well saying Scherzer's injury sounded like a rotator cuff issue isn't really insight, so maybe that's where the disconnect is.
Plus I was just giving you ####.
All good..I know that I am no match when you delve into stats. I watch every game but do not get into the numbers like you.
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Leroy Hoard
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What if he gets the triple crown but they give the MVP to Trout?
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
freep blog injury news:
"Avila only has mild concussion-like symptoms.
Berry has a right shoulder contusion, but the X-rays were negative.
And Scherzer had an MRI but there was no structural damage. The problem is in a muscle in his shoulder, which might be the best problem to have."
"Avila only has mild concussion-like symptoms.
Berry has a right shoulder contusion, but the X-rays were negative.
And Scherzer had an MRI but there was no structural damage. The problem is in a muscle in his shoulder, which might be the best problem to have."
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
That would make a mockery out of the MVP award.What if he gets the triple crown but they give the MVP to Trout?
Anthony Borbely
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Well there have been close to 90 MVPs in the 2 leagues since the last triple crown so you have a point.That would make a mockery out of the MVP award.What if he gets the triple crown but they give the MVP to Trout?
Greco
Footballguy
Look no further than 1941. DiMaggio v. Williams. Triple Crown does not equate to MVP. And this saddens me.Well there have been close to 90 MVPs in the 2 leagues since the last triple crown so you have a point.That would make a mockery out of the MVP award.What if he gets the triple crown but they give the MVP to Trout?
Doctor Detroit
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Here is what I don't like about advanced fielding stats. Peralta is currently ranked 2nd in the AL with a 10.5 UZR and easily first in RZR, better than the likes of JJ Hardy who is a terrific fielder.
I guess the great thing about baseball stats are some are open to interpretation. I think Peralta is usually slightly above average at SS, but this year he's been below average a lot of the time. One thing with him though is he has games where he's just bad all game, then he goes weeks where he is pretty damn solid.
Not a Jhonny hater, he obviously had a fantastic 2011 and hasn't repeated it but I like him over a lot of other options out there.
I guess the great thing about baseball stats are some are open to interpretation. I think Peralta is usually slightly above average at SS, but this year he's been below average a lot of the time. One thing with him though is he has games where he's just bad all game, then he goes weeks where he is pretty damn solid.
Not a Jhonny hater, he obviously had a fantastic 2011 and hasn't repeated it but I like him over a lot of other options out there.
Doctor Detroit
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Now you're getting it.
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Broke a streak of 75 errorless games.
I would have just liked to have seen a better effort. He has a good glove, it is the effort that is troubling. He has had a ton of action of balls which he was close to. Lots of opportunity to be sport center highlights
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Cabrera first Tiger with 40 HRs since Cecil in 1991.
Doctor Detroit
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OMG why is Benoit in??? 
Anthony Borbely
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Remember who the manager is.OMG why is Benoit in???
Doctor Detroit
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So he's probably not available tomorrow now, a game they might really need him.Remember who the manager is.OMG why is Benoit in???
Anthony Borbely
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And now Valverde in to protect a 6 run lead.So he's probably not available tomorrow now, a game they might really need him.Remember who the manager is.OMG why is Benoit in???
Dr. Awesome
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
OK, Sox lose ..down to 2 games. Let's win another and put the pressure on CWS before they start a tough road series with the Angels.
I happened to look at Dirks' stats - man, has he improved this year, and he's just entering his prime years. AJax, too, has made huge strides (K/BB down from 4/1 to 2/1 along with lots of other improvements) and he also is just getting to his prime. We can still do this this year. But next year's team could be really special.
I happened to look at Dirks' stats - man, has he improved this year, and he's just entering his prime years.
AJax, too, has made huge strides (K/BB down from 4/1 to 2/1 along with lots of other improvements) and he also is just getting to his prime. We can still do this this year. But next year's team could be really special.
Ghandi
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Agree
Doctor Detroit
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Doesn't seem like you have anything to worry aboutAgree
Leroy Hoard
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Yes, with Garcia in right they have the makings of a good outfield.I happened to look at Dirks' stats - man, has he improved this year, and he's just entering his prime years.
Da Guru
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What are the other options at SS? I would like a fast, slick fielding SS who is gritty, works the count, sets the table and steals some bases and is a good leader. Is that too much to ask for 1.2 a year?About Garcia...he sure looks comfortable in the outfield. Somes guys just look like they can field and he is one of them.If anybody wants to go the the game today they are giving tickets away on StubHub. I bought 4 yesterday for customers. 4 Lower outfield box row 8 for 14.00 a piece. Same seats were going for $50-80 last home stand.'Doctor Detroit said:
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MAC_32
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Prince at 1B, Miggy at 3B, AJ in CF are obviously locks. V Mart at DH probably is too.I'm expecting us to pick up Jhonny's option due to lack of options - internal and extrenal. Him and Infante will be back as everyday players. Santiago is the swing player again. Barring trades we have to find a way to win with this infield.Dirks should be too, meaning as an everyday player, hopefully he'll be what we hoped Boesch would be.Speaking of Boesch, he'll be back, whether he starts or not depends on Garcia's spring. They'll compete, I think Garcia is given every shot to win the job.Rotation - Verlander/Max/Fister/Porcello/Free Agent (hopefully a veteran #4 type - preferably a K/fly ball pitcher)Bullpen - Benoit/Villareal/Al/Coke/Smyly/Below/Marte, not sure what contracts look like but I think we'll be good there. Probably lose one or two of those last few and add a couple of more.Use Valverde $ on a free agent starting arm, will need a veteran backup C again too, I'd be fine with Laird. Leaves room for one more utility guy if we keep both Boesch and Garcia, if Garcia is optioned to get him full time AB's instead of giving him the job and making Boesch 4th OF then there's 2 spots.More importantly than an arm I think we need to bring in someone that will light a fire under this team, whether that's management or player I don't care - need something.
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