cruz castillo will beat that ###Santa Barbara is a ####hole anyway, now imagine this happened in Fresno.![]()
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I've had a few bourbons so my sarcasm meter is a little off You can't be seeriious? I've always heard SB was nice and had beautiful women everywhere and Fresno was the white trash capital of all lands west of the Mississippi.Santa Barbara is a ####hole anyway, now imagine this happened in Fresno.![]()
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Totally agree. I grew up in Goleta/Santa Barbara and remember as a kid having to rub gasoline on the bottom of our feet to get all the tar off after we went to the beach.horrible.
One of the best things CA ever did was banned new leases of state offshore tracts. It really cleaned up the coastline.
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Well, let's be very honest about this. It is only progressive elements within the Democratic Party which consistently propose greater regulations on offshore oil drilling. Most Republicans consistently oppose new regulations, and centrist Democrats are generally passive.This stuff is horrible, I feel for Cali. Recently here it was revealed that there was an oil spill leaking from a broken well site dating to before BP.... and it's still flowing in the Gulf. Massive amounts. I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
he asked a question which I tried to answer. Was I wrong in my answer?And here Tim goes.
I like regulation in a lot of ways and in a lot of places, especially if it is effective regulation. We went through this with BP and the OMM, it looked like Bush's FEMA when BP hit. Maybe that's changed but in any event the proof is in that pudding seeping in the waters off SB. Sad, but true. My thought is there has to be a way to prevent these things.Well, let's be very honest about this. It is only progressive elements within the Democratic Party which consistently propose greater regulations on offshore oil drilling. Most Republicans consistently oppose new regulations, and centrist Democrats are generally passive.This stuff is horrible, I feel for Cali. Recently here it was revealed that there was an oil spill leaking from a broken well site dating to before BP.... and it's still flowing in the Gulf. Massive amounts. I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
+1 ... UCSB 92-96Totally agree. I grew up in Goleta/Santa Barbara and remember as a kid having to rub gasoline on the bottom of our feet to get all the tar off after we went to the beach.horrible.
One of the best things CA ever did was banned new leases of state offshore tracts. It really cleaned up the coastline.
That spill is sometimes noted as the beginning of the modern environmentalist movement.If the pipeline company's worst-case estimate of its oil release holds up, it would mark the biggest in the region since a 1969 offshore oil well blowout that dumped 80,000 to 100,000 barrels of crude petroleum into the Santa Barbara Channel and stands as the largest spill ever in California waters.
A pudding leak doesn't seem like a big problem. What flavor are we talking about?I like regulation in a lot of ways and in a lot of places, especially if it is effective regulation. We went through this with BP and the OMM, it looked like Bush's FEMA when BP hit. Maybe that's changed but in any event the proof is in that pudding seeping in the waters off SB. Sad, but true. My thought is there has to be a way to prevent these things.Well, let's be very honest about this. It is only progressive elements within the Democratic Party which consistently propose greater regulations on offshore oil drilling. Most Republicans consistently oppose new regulations, and centrist Democrats are generally passive.This stuff is horrible, I feel for Cali. Recently here it was revealed that there was an oil spill leaking from a broken well site dating to before BP.... and it's still flowing in the Gulf. Massive amounts. I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
My main point was just to express sympathy for the people out there, we are still affected by it.
Really??????I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
Uhm yes, I would like to see a halt to oil spills one day? And also vastly improve our cleanup capabilities? - Impossible?Really??????I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
Come on man.
I believe it was beloved, irascible comedian-actor Bill Cosby who once said.... [nm].A pudding leak doesn't seem like a big problem. What flavor are we talking about?I like regulation in a lot of ways and in a lot of places, especially if it is effective regulation. We went through this with BP and the OMM, it looked like Bush's FEMA when BP hit. Maybe that's changed but in any event the proof is in that pudding seeping in the waters off SB. Sad, but true. My thought is there has to be a way to prevent these things.Well, let's be very honest about this. It is only progressive elements within the Democratic Party which consistently propose greater regulations on offshore oil drilling. Most Republicans consistently oppose new regulations, and centrist Democrats are generally passive.This stuff is horrible, I feel for Cali. Recently here it was revealed that there was an oil spill leaking from a broken well site dating to before BP.... and it's still flowing in the Gulf. Massive amounts. I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
My main point was just to express sympathy for the people out there, we are still affected by it.
You really don't understand why? You think oil companies are investing any money in methods and technologies to clean up oil spills? We're still using methods from 5 decades ago. ####### citizens are out on the beach right now because the company responsible isn't doing ####.Uhm yes, I would like to see a halt to oil spills one day? And also vastly improve our cleanup capabilities? - Impossible?Really??????I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
Come on man.
Anyone know how this particular spill happened?
Yeah, believe me I know all about that. Sorry didn't know what you meant.You really don't understand why? You think oil companies are investing any money in methods and technologies to clean up oil spills? We're still using methods from 5 decades ago. ####### citizens are out on the beach right now because the company responsible isn't doing ####.Uhm yes, I would like to see a halt to oil spills one day? And also vastly improve our cleanup capabilities? - Impossible?Really??????I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
Come on man.
Anyone know how this particular spill happened?
The article stated the spill came from an underground pipe. Buried pipes can be exposed to numerous forces and sometimes crack. Once developed, these cracks and subsequent leaks can slowly increase in size sometimes making it difficult to identify and remedy the leaks before they cause environmental damage.Uhm yes, I would like to see a halt to oil spills one day? And also vastly improve our cleanup capabilities? - Impossible?Really??????I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
Come on man.
Anyone know how this particular spill happened?
I'm pretty sure I know the answer.The article stated the spill came from an underground pipe. Buried pipes can be exposed to numerous forces and sometimes crack. Once developed, these cracks and subsequent leaks can slowly increase in size sometimes making it difficult to identify and remedy the leaks before they cause environmental damage.Uhm yes, I would like to see a halt to oil spills one day? And also vastly improve our cleanup capabilities? - Impossible?Really??????I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
Come on man.
Anyone know how this particular spill happened?
I know you can setup monitoring systems and hydraulic models that can detect leaks in municipal potable water systems I wonder why regulators can't require the same type of trouble-shooting analysis for oil pipelines.
Lunch break?I'm pretty sure I know the answer.The article stated the spill came from an underground pipe. Buried pipes can be exposed to numerous forces and sometimes crack. Once developed, these cracks and subsequent leaks can slowly increase in size sometimes making it difficult to identify and remedy the leaks before they cause environmental damage.Uhm yes, I would like to see a halt to oil spills one day? And also vastly improve our cleanup capabilities? - Impossible?Really??????I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
Come on man.
Anyone know how this particular spill happened?
I know you can setup monitoring systems and hydraulic models that can detect leaks in municipal potable water systems I wonder why regulators can't require the same type of trouble-shooting analysis for oil pipelines.
Dangit. This news makes me both sad and angry. I know people in the gulf states hate this, but people who used to enjoy vacationing there hate it, too. Not just because we have to go somewhere else now, but because "somewhere else" is costing us a whole lot more money than driving down to the gulf would have. It sucks.This stuff is horrible, I feel for Cali. Recently here it was revealed that there was an oil spill leaking from a broken well site dating to before BP.... and it's still flowing in the Gulf. Massive amounts. I don't understand why our regulation and response can't be better, citizens seem so powerless to change it.
At the risk of inviting another response by Tim, I feel it's my duty to point out there was no question asked.he asked a question which I tried to answer. Was I wrong in my answer?And here Tim goes.
5 year plan Gaucho+1 ... UCSB 92-96Totally agree. I grew up in Goleta/Santa Barbara and remember as a kid having to rub gasoline on the bottom of our feet to get all the tar off after we went to the beach.horrible.
One of the best things CA ever did was banned new leases of state offshore tracts. It really cleaned up the coastline.
Well there already is one right down the middle. They wanted to add another one. And pipes are safer than trains.And repukes want to build one right down the middle of America!
I had to get tested for tar balls once too. It wasn't very much fun.
We still get these here (Grand Isle, the marsh) they never go away. Good luck SB.