OMG I may need to be in therapy throughout the season (1 Viewer)

[Sweetness_34]

This is not a "How did I do in my draft thread?" .... But, something to spark off a discussion on the intangibles of fantasy football (non-statistics discussion).

Lats night, I had one of my 12 team redrafts in a PPR league. I had the #3 spot and picked LT2 (#2 guy let yahoo autopick and yahoo had Shaun higher than LT )....then I wait for my turn and when it does come in the 2nd round, I see Randy Moss and TO staring in my face.....I turn squeamish realizing I cannot let both go and have to pick one here....too much upside to let a LJ or Shaun owner have in a PPR league. So, with TO's latest drama + injury, I pick Moss and take a deep breath.

The guy with 1.02 then picks Marvin Harrison, and the guy with 1.01 picks Warrick Dunn and Matt Hasselback, and it comes back to 1.02.

Now this 1.02 pick guy is a huge Cowboys fan, so I am thinking what you are now thinking. And then the guy takes his full 90 secs and picks Reggie Bush....and there it was. Now I had TO staring in my face and I got red and squeamish again.....I could not let TO go and I took him

Now I have TO and Moss on the same team, and I also got KWII as my TE1. Also, with Bledsoe throwing the rock, my teams success will depend a lot on TO.

So, my question to all is - how many of you look at personal favorites (at a personal level vs stats driven) when making picks. We had people pick Favre because they love him etc etc last night....How much does intangibles like this matter? Same thing as Denver running backs....#s show even if it is a RBBC, each one is gold as RB3, but everyone tip toes around them so that they do not have to deal with whois starting which week and who is going to explode which week.

Also, do send me condolences if my team blows up because Moss and TO decide to blow up by mid season. I went for the jugular thinking if these guys perform like they can, it is *championship* or close to it for me

Thoughts everyone?

 

[jurb26]

Who are your other RBs? If LT gets hurt, soulds like you could be dead in the water.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Who are your other RBs? If LT gets hurt, soulds like you could be dead in the water.

Qbs: Drew Bledsoe, Steve McNairRbs: LT, Jamal Lewis, Deshaun Foster, Thomas Jones, Wali LundyWRs: Randy Moss, TO, Derrick MasonTEs: KWII, Ben TroupeDEF: Jax, NEK: Mike KoenenStarting: 1 Qb, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 DEF, 1 K

 

[JimmyD]

This is not a "How did I do in my draft thread?" .... But, something to spark off a discussion on the intangibles of fantasy football (non-statistics discussion).Lats night, I had one of my 12 team redrafts in a PPR league. I had the #3 spot and picked LT2 (#2 guy let yahoo autopick and yahoo had Shaun higher than LT )....then I wait for my turn and when it does come in the 2nd round, I see Randy Moss and TO staring in my face.....I turn squeamish realizing I cannot let both go and have to pick one here....too much upside to let a LJ or Shaun owner have in a PPR league. So, with TO's latest drama + injury, I pick Moss and take a deep breath. The guy with 1.02 then picks Marvin Harrison, and the guy with 1.01 picks Warrick Dunn and Matt Hasselback, and it comes back to 1.02. Now this 1.02 pick guy is a huge Cowboys fan, so I am thinking what you are now thinking. And then the guy takes his full 90 secs and picks Reggie Bush....and there it was. Now I had TO staring in my face and I got red and squeamish again.....I could not let TO go and I took himNow I have TO and Moss on the same team, and I also got KWII as my TE1. Also, with Bledsoe throwing the rock, my teams success will depend a lot on TO. So, my question to all is - how many of you look at personal favorites (at a personal level vs stats driven) when making picks. We had people pick Favre because they love him etc etc last night....How much does intangibles like this matter? Same thing as Denver running backs....#s show even if it is a RBBC, each one is gold as RB3, but everyone tip toes around them so that they do not have to deal with whois starting which week and who is going to explode which week.Also, do send me condolences if my team blows up because Moss and TO decide to blow up by mid season. I went for the jugular thinking if these guys perform like they can, it is *championship* or close to it for meThoughts everyone?

Its all about Risk/Reward. It looks like a lot of guys in your league didn't feel that the reward was worth the risk and you did.

 

[ericttspikes]

I had TO and Moss as my top 2 WRs last year. I should of changed my team name to "TO cost me 5 large". Hope they turn it around this year for you, they are best WRs in the game when 100%.

 

[Sweetness_34]

This is not a "How did I do in my draft thread?" .... But, something to spark off a discussion on the intangibles of fantasy football (non-statistics discussion).Lats night, I had one of my 12 team redrafts in a PPR league. I had the #3 spot and picked LT2 (#2 guy let yahoo autopick and yahoo had Shaun higher than LT )....then I wait for my turn and when it does come in the 2nd round, I see Randy Moss and TO staring in my face.....I turn squeamish realizing I cannot let both go and have to pick one here....too much upside to let a LJ or Shaun owner have in a PPR league. So, with TO's latest drama + injury, I pick Moss and take a deep breath. The guy with 1.02 then picks Marvin Harrison, and the guy with 1.01 picks Warrick Dunn and Matt Hasselback, and it comes back to 1.02. Now this 1.02 pick guy is a huge Cowboys fan, so I am thinking what you are now thinking. And then the guy takes his full 90 secs and picks Reggie Bush....and there it was. Now I had TO staring in my face and I got red and squeamish again.....I could not let TO go and I took himNow I have TO and Moss on the same team, and I also got KWII as my TE1. Also, with Bledsoe throwing the rock, my teams success will depend a lot on TO. So, my question to all is - how many of you look at personal favorites (at a personal level vs stats driven) when making picks. We had people pick Favre because they love him etc etc last night....How much does intangibles like this matter? Same thing as Denver running backs....#s show even if it is a RBBC, each one is gold as RB3, but everyone tip toes around them so that they do not have to deal with whois starting which week and who is going to explode which week.Also, do send me condolences if my team blows up because Moss and TO decide to blow up by mid season. I went for the jugular thinking if these guys perform like they can, it is *championship* or close to it for meThoughts everyone?

Its all about Risk/Reward. It looks like a lot of guys in your league didn't feel that the reward was worth the risk and you did.

Agreed, but while I waited all 90 secs to make my picks when it came to these 2, I also did not feel as worried as I am feeling now. I can just see it....throughout the season i will be glued to ESPN to see their TO (and Moss?) updates .... tick tick tick tickTalk me off the ledge folks before I trade TO or Moss away for a freaking Reuben Droughns or something

 

[smcindoe]

Who are your other RBs?

I'm going to assume Michael Pittman, OJ Simpson and Fred Lane.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Who are your other RBs?

I'm going to assume Michael Pittman, OJ Simpson and Fred Lane.

See my post above

 

[datonn]

I had a similar situation in a ten-team re-draft last night too....except mine was much WORSE! T.O. staring me in the face at 6.07......Deion Branch still available at 11.04! Either guy could be a train-wreck depending upon how things go, but man oh man the upside on either player for where they went in the draft is absolutely inexcusable. Heck, I should be tarred and feathered for letting EITHER guy fall that far too!

Anyway, it's ALL about risk and reward. If reward outweighs the risk, you pull the trigger. If risk outweighs reward, you go in another direction.

 

[pettifogger]

This is not a "How did I do in my draft thread?" .... But, something to spark off a discussion on the intangibles of fantasy football (non-statistics discussion).Lats night, I had one of my 12 team redrafts in a PPR league. I had the #3 spot and picked LT2 (#2 guy let yahoo autopick and yahoo had Shaun higher than LT )....then I wait for my turn and when it does come in the 2nd round, I see Randy Moss and TO staring in my face.....I turn squeamish realizing I cannot let both go and have to pick one here....too much upside to let a LJ or Shaun owner have in a PPR league. So, with TO's latest drama + injury, I pick Moss and take a deep breath. The guy with 1.02 then picks Marvin Harrison, and the guy with 1.01 picks Warrick Dunn and Matt Hasselback, and it comes back to 1.02. Now this 1.02 pick guy is a huge Cowboys fan, so I am thinking what you are now thinking. And then the guy takes his full 90 secs and picks Reggie Bush....and there it was. Now I had TO staring in my face and I got red and squeamish again.....I could not let TO go and I took himNow I have TO and Moss on the same team, and I also got KWII as my TE1. Also, with Bledsoe throwing the rock, my teams success will depend a lot on TO. So, my question to all is - how many of you look at personal favorites (at a personal level vs stats driven) when making picks. We had people pick Favre because they love him etc etc last night....How much does intangibles like this matter? Same thing as Denver running backs....#s show even if it is a RBBC, each one is gold as RB3, but everyone tip toes around them so that they do not have to deal with whois starting which week and who is going to explode which week.Also, do send me condolences if my team blows up because Moss and TO decide to blow up by mid season. I went for the jugular thinking if these guys perform like they can, it is *championship* or close to it for meThoughts everyone?

Its all about Risk/Reward. It looks like a lot of guys in your league didn't feel that the reward was worth the risk and you did.

Agreed, but while I waited all 90 secs to make my picks when it came to these 2, I also did not feel as worried as I am feeling now. I can just see it....throughout the season i will be glued to ESPN to see their TO (and Moss?) updates .... tick tick tick tickTalk me off the ledge folks before I trade TO or Moss away for a freaking Reuben Droughns or something

Back off the ledge; you did fine. The only question I have about TO is how many targets he'll get since Glenn will have to get a healthy share too. If you are in a 12 team league rostering only 3 WRs each, there are going to be some decent players in the free agent pool to limit your downside a little, and you had to take the chance on a player who could have a big season. You're well insured with Mason and I think he's going to actually outperform his preseason rankings too. There's no way you trade TO now in light of the bad press, wait and let him have a big game and dump him if you're worried about him.

 

[oukurt]

I had a similar situation in a ten-team re-draft last night too....except mine was much WORSE! T.O. staring me in the face at 6.07......Deion Branch still available at 11.04! Either guy could be a train-wreck depending upon how things go, but man oh man the upside on either player for where they went in the draft is absolutely inexcusable. Heck, I should be tarred and feathered for letting EITHER guy fall that far too! Anyway, it's ALL about risk and reward. If reward outweighs the risk, you pull the trigger. If risk outweighs reward, you go in another direction.

T O at 6.07 is a tough call???

 

[Colin Dowling]

I think you're fine. Your RBs ended up okay and you have solid risk-vs.-reward WRs.

Frankly, in redraft leagues, I prefer to take high-risk players who could pay off. Every year, there is a player or two at each position who can single handedly win you a title if they are on your team. I prefer to have those guys on my team and either reap the benefits or know what went wrong. There is nothing worse than building a safe, solid squad, and then going 7-5...

 

[sterjs]

Who are your other RBs? If LT gets hurt, soulds like you could be dead in the water.

Rbs: LT, Jamal Lewis, Deshaun Foster, Thomas Jones, Wali Lundy

Wow, you weren't kidding about the therapy. I would have reached for Micheal Turner--LT has had a lot of carries over the last few years and he's had chronic groin problems. Your other RBs are all high variance.

 

[jurb26]

Who are your other RBs? If LT gets hurt, soulds like you could be dead in the water.

Qbs: Drew Bledsoe, Steve McNairRbs: LT, Jamal Lewis, Deshaun Foster, Thomas Jones, Wali Lundy

WRs: Randy Moss, TO, Derrick Mason

TEs: KWII, Ben Troupe

DEF: Jax, NE

K: Mike Koenen

Starting: 1 Qb, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 DEF, 1 K

Wow! This is just further proof of how great a value J. Lewis is right now.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Who are your other RBs? If LT gets hurt, soulds like you could be dead in the water.

Qbs: Drew Bledsoe, Steve McNairRbs: LT, Jamal Lewis, Deshaun Foster, Thomas Jones, Wali Lundy

WRs: Randy Moss, TO, Derrick Mason

TEs: KWII, Ben Troupe

DEF: Jax, NE

K: Mike Koenen

Starting: 1 Qb, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 DEF, 1 K

Wow! This is just further proof of how great a value J. Lewis is right now.

Yeah I got Jamal at 4.03. Given it is PPR might have something to do with it, not to menion a lot of bitter owners who have had him since his break out season and are tired of being disappointed vs the hype. But I will gladly take him at 4.03. Also, with 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 flex option for starting, I am perfectly comfortable starting TO, Moss and Mason in a PPR league and getting one RB2 out of Jamal, Thomas jones, Foster, Lundy any given week.

 

[bentley]

As far as the question about personal favorites goes (which I think was buried in this discussion somewhere), I pretty much always draft Phil Dawson as my backup kicker to have a Longhorn on the team.

 

[OneEastRiver]

I like your team.

 

[facook]

As far as the question about personal favorites goes (which I think was buried in this discussion somewhere), I pretty much always draft Phil Dawson as my backup kicker to have a Longhorn on the team.

Personal preference plays SOME role in it for me. I took LT at 1.01 last night simply because I like him more than LJ or SA...I enjoy watching him play more than either of the other two. It was a toss-up as to which of the three was the best VALUE, so I took the guy I liked.However, this is the ONLY time my preference plays a part. I will not take a clearly inferior player just because I like him more, e.g. I wouldn't select Eric Johnson (49er) instead of Shockey (loud mouth jerk).

 

[ALL STATE]

This is not a "How did I do in my draft thread?" .... But, something to spark off a discussion on the intangibles of fantasy football (non-statistics discussion).Lats night, I had one of my 12 team redrafts in a PPR league. I had the #3 spot and picked LT2 (#2 guy let yahoo autopick and yahoo had Shaun higher than LT )....then I wait for my turn and when it does come in the 2nd round, I see Randy Moss and TO staring in my face.....I turn squeamish realizing I cannot let both go and have to pick one here....too much upside to let a LJ or Shaun owner have in a PPR league. So, with TO's latest drama + injury, I pick Moss and take a deep breath. The guy with 1.02 then picks Marvin Harrison, and the guy with 1.01 picks Warrick Dunn and Matt Hasselback, and it comes back to 1.02. Now this 1.02 pick guy is a huge Cowboys fan, so I am thinking what you are now thinking. And then the guy takes his full 90 secs and picks Reggie Bush....and there it was. Now I had TO staring in my face and I got red and squeamish again.....I could not let TO go and I took himNow I have TO and Moss on the same team, and I also got KWII as my TE1. Also, with Bledsoe throwing the rock, my teams success will depend a lot on TO. So, my question to all is - how many of you look at personal favorites (at a personal level vs stats driven) when making picks. We had people pick Favre because they love him etc etc last night....How much does intangibles like this matter? Same thing as Denver running backs....#s show even if it is a RBBC, each one is gold as RB3, but everyone tip toes around them so that they do not have to deal with whois starting which week and who is going to explode which week.Also, do send me condolences if my team blows up because Moss and TO decide to blow up by mid season. I went for the jugular thinking if these guys perform like they can, it is *championship* or close to it for meThoughts everyone?

Other than having four of your starters on a bye week, ya done good.

 

[Sweetness_34]

This is not a "How did I do in my draft thread?" .... But, something to spark off a discussion on the intangibles of fantasy football (non-statistics discussion).Lats night, I had one of my 12 team redrafts in a PPR league. I had the #3 spot and picked LT2 (#2 guy let yahoo autopick and yahoo had Shaun higher than LT )....then I wait for my turn and when it does come in the 2nd round, I see Randy Moss and TO staring in my face.....I turn squeamish realizing I cannot let both go and have to pick one here....too much upside to let a LJ or Shaun owner have in a PPR league. So, with TO's latest drama + injury, I pick Moss and take a deep breath. The guy with 1.02 then picks Marvin Harrison, and the guy with 1.01 picks Warrick Dunn and Matt Hasselback, and it comes back to 1.02. Now this 1.02 pick guy is a huge Cowboys fan, so I am thinking what you are now thinking. And then the guy takes his full 90 secs and picks Reggie Bush....and there it was. Now I had TO staring in my face and I got red and squeamish again.....I could not let TO go and I took himNow I have TO and Moss on the same team, and I also got KWII as my TE1. Also, with Bledsoe throwing the rock, my teams success will depend a lot on TO. So, my question to all is - how many of you look at personal favorites (at a personal level vs stats driven) when making picks. We had people pick Favre because they love him etc etc last night....How much does intangibles like this matter? Same thing as Denver running backs....#s show even if it is a RBBC, each one is gold as RB3, but everyone tip toes around them so that they do not have to deal with whois starting which week and who is going to explode which week.Also, do send me condolences if my team blows up because Moss and TO decide to blow up by mid season. I went for the jugular thinking if these guys perform like they can, it is *championship* or close to it for meThoughts everyone?

Other than having four of your starters on a bye week, ya done good.

Week 3 and week 7 is gonna be a ##### for me.....I will need to pick up one WW WR for week 3 and I will be good for week 3. One good thing though about having most studs (LT, Moss, TO, Bledsoe) all on same bye week is that I may lose week 3, but I will cover up every other week when folks have their weak teams playing against me all the time.

 

[ALL STATE]

This is not a "How did I do in my draft thread?" .... But, something to spark off a discussion on the intangibles of fantasy football (non-statistics discussion).

Lats night, I had one of my 12 team redrafts in a PPR league. I had the #3 spot and picked LT2 (#2 guy let yahoo autopick and yahoo had Shaun higher than LT )....then I wait for my turn and when it does come in the 2nd round, I see Randy Moss and TO staring in my face.....I turn squeamish realizing I cannot let both go and have to pick one here....too much upside to let a LJ or Shaun owner have in a PPR league. So, with TO's latest drama + injury, I pick Moss and take a deep breath.

The guy with 1.02 then picks Marvin Harrison, and the guy with 1.01 picks Warrick Dunn and Matt Hasselback, and it comes back to 1.02.

Now this 1.02 pick guy is a huge Cowboys fan, so I am thinking what you are now thinking. And then the guy takes his full 90 secs and picks Reggie Bush....and there it was. Now I had TO staring in my face and I got red and squeamish again.....I could not let TO go and I took him

Now I have TO and Moss on the same team, and I also got KWII as my TE1. Also, with Bledsoe throwing the rock, my teams success will depend a lot on TO.

So, my question to all is - how many of you look at personal favorites (at a personal level vs stats driven) when making picks. We had people pick Favre because they love him etc etc last night....How much does intangibles like this matter? Same thing as Denver running backs....#s show even if it is a RBBC, each one is gold as RB3, but everyone tip toes around them so that they do not have to deal with whois starting which week and who is going to explode which week.

Also, do send me condolences if my team blows up because Moss and TO decide to blow up by mid season. I went for the jugular thinking if these guys perform like they can, it is *championship* or close to it for me

Thoughts everyone?

Other than having four of your starters on a bye week, ya done good.

Week 3 and week 7 is gonna be a ##### for me.....I will need to pick up one WW WR for week 3 and I will be good for week 3. One good thing though about having most studs (LT, Moss, TO, Bledsoe) all on same bye week is that I may lose week 3, but I will cover up every other week when folks have their weak teams playing against me all the time.

Yea, 10 - 4 on that. Bye weeks are somewhat over rated and with this years NFL schedule format everyone seems to have a problem. I would rather have your problem on maybe losing Week 3 and having other owners struggling to put up a good line up against the other weeks. From weeks 6 - 9 I'll have a tuff time putting forth a team I actually like.

 

[barndog]

I usually have biases against rather than preferences for. Just can't stomach Joe Horn or Andre Johnson this year, for example.

I find, however, that having good solid predictions in front of (Thanks FBG) helps overcome those biases. At some point, the sheet just kind of reaches up and slaps you hard in the face saying, "Take him already, ya putz!"

 

[Sweetness_34]

I usually have biases against rather than preferences for. Just can't stomach Joe Horn or Andre Johnson this year, for example.I find, however, that having good solid predictions in front of (Thanks FBG) helps overcome those biases. At some point, the sheet just kind of reaches up and slaps you hard in the face saying, "Take him already, ya putz!"

Funny you said that because I was so dreading having to pick a Kevin Jones or Julius Jones with my 2nd round pick because all top WRs would be gone in a PPR league, and then to have both Moss and TO....

 

[TheFanatic]

Had the initial draft a Dynasty League that started just after the NFL draft. I drafted 10th in the first 3 rounds. PPR league as well. Grabbed Edge 1.10. At 2.10 I took TO. 3.10 I took KJones. Later on I took Bledsoe as my main QB this year. So I'm in a similar boat. If TO talks it for me I'm going to be in bad shape. The league is 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE and 3 flex at WR and RB. Having Edge, KJ, Gore, and possibly Addai going at RB I might be able to do OK by starting just 1 WR, but it will be rough. So, I'm with you and possibly even worse. I have TO locked up for quite some time. If he dumps on his team this year I'm stuck with his punk ###

 

[davper]

Personal favorites will always play some part in your draft. But good, solid analytics should prevent most of it.

Once I had my draft order, I did several mock drafts to get a feel for what players would be there during each round. This is a great way to plan your team and look at byes and backups

I had 2 routes I would take depending on whether or not a player would be available in the 1st round. From then on, I got 10 of the 14 players I was planning on taking. 1 was picked just before I had planned to take him, another went way too early, and the other 2 were because I took a better player that had fallen in the draft.

 

[datonn]

I had a similar situation in a ten-team re-draft last night too....except mine was much WORSE! T.O. staring me in the face at 6.07......Deion Branch still available at 11.04! Either guy could be a train-wreck depending upon how things go, but man oh man the upside on either player for where they went in the draft is absolutely inexcusable. Heck, I should be tarred and feathered for letting EITHER guy fall that far too! Anyway, it's ALL about risk and reward. If reward outweighs the risk, you pull the trigger. If risk outweighs reward, you go in another direction.

T O at 6.07 is a tough call???

LOL. No. Those two picks were two of my fastest picks in the history of FFL drafting!I guess I was saying that NOT taking Owens in the 4th or 5th or Branch in the 8th...9th...10th...was the "tough call". I finally had to stop both player's free-fall after I could STANDS-IT NO MORE! Where's "Tremendous Upside" in a Pool thread when you need 'em?

 

[chief of staff]

Maybe i'm not the shark everyone else is, but I have always viewed my top picks as safe picks. you don't win in the first four rounds, you lose it there.

That said, you have balls the size of church bells.