Orton outscores Matt Schaub in Week 2 (1 Viewer)

[FreeBaGeL]

People are missing the boat on the really major uselessness angle of this post.It's that without projections, the comparison is 100% relative. The only thing success or failure in this prognostication means is where Orton finishes the week relative to Matt Schaub.This is useless to people who own Orton as a member of a committee, because since it allows for the possibility that Schaub will crap the bed entirely, it says nothing about the value of Orton this week relative to other likely members of a QB committee.This is useless to people who own Orton AND Schaub, in the first place because there aren't very many of them to begin with, and in the second place, because whether you believe the OP or not, nobody is benching Matt Schaub for Kyle Orton this early in the season.This is useless to people hoping to find a little bit of insight or discussion about what kinds of production are likely from both DEN and HOU offenses, since no attempt is made to quantify.The only person such a post is even remotely useful to is the OP, and even then, only so he can yell, "I found a nut! I found a nut!"Something like the MOP or Otis posts have some spine, and some substance. Almost doesn't matter if they turn out well or not, since they actually offer something measurable. This is just empty, pointless, and self-serving. Far better suited to one of the other forums.

This is a great post.You see, LHUCKS doesn't get it. Never has. Threads like this actually make him feel good about himself.And, the actual reason he doesn't critique the FBG's pre-season rankings anymore is that he has bombed worse than Matt Leinart the last few attempts. For those who don't know, back in the day (about 5 years ago) LHUCKS made a name for himself around here when he nailed several pre-season player predictions. The following year his pre-season ranking thread was much anticipated. He BOMBED but, predictably, didn't admit to it.So, in an effort to redeem himself he then changed the methodology of his critique so that he didn't have to stick his neck out so far. His predictions/critique contained far less substance and were not dissimilar to the useless rhetoric you see in this thread. The problem was, he still bombed. So, now he has retreated out of the picture under the ruse that he is being otherwise punished by the staff for taking shots at their predictions, which is obviously untrue.LHUCKS is a an iTrainwreck that has been going on for years.

I don't agree with LHUCKS schtick, nor his prognostications. But, at least he has balls enough to make predictions. There are a bunch of you who only use this forum to flame people, but lack the cajones to take a stand on any player. Man up - if you're going to criticize, be willing to lay it on the line. You mean LHUCKS was wrong about players? Gee, I guess that makes him horrible. Why do we even use this site, given that LHUCKS the previous year shows how bad the FBGs are at prognosticating. I guess they are all awful too.Idiots.

Predictions are useless without some analysis unless they're coming from someone with a good reputation. "Book it, mark it down" is not a prediction, it's throwing some darts at a wall and hoping that a miracle will pull your reputation out of the gutter.

 

[Phase of the Game]

Is this one of those threads where LHUCKS burns out the report function?

 

[puckalicious]

So I missed on a bold call...isn't the first time and wont be the last.

Seriously, enough with the weekly "BOLD CALLS" threads.If you're right... who cares?

If you're wrong... who cares?

A) Nobody forced you into the thread...shoo off, all you bring is negativityB) Several people have stated they're interested...so "somebody" does care

I, for one, am interested... in watching you act like a complete buffoon. Sort of like watching kids play and make each other cry, sad and amusing at the same time.

 

[moleculo]

How is this useful prediction in the first place? How many teams have Orton and Schaub on the roster? Am I missing something?

Now we're getting somewhere...the point of this exercise is to point out how terrible most "expert" rankings are.It'll be interesting to see if we can draw some conclusions by year's end.There is always a method to my madness.

you spout this crap time and time again...there is no method. You have nothing to prove. We all know how this will play out...you will make a "bold" call. If your call pans out, great. If it doesn't (which, based on your past history is likely), people will mock you. You will call them idiots and make other insulting remarks. If anyone throws it back, you will report them. This has played out many times already. The whole while, you will drop vague hints about trying to prove something and demonstrate that you are smarter than everyone else, but at no time will you come close to suggesting what it is that you are trying to prove. I suppose in the end, a great time will be had by all, but you will go no further in demonstrating your overall FF philosophy and/or strategy. Because in the end, you have nothing more to bring to the table - you have nothing unique that 30k message board subscribers haven't already thought of.

 

[Phase of the Game]

How is this useful prediction in the first place? How many teams have Orton and Schaub on the roster? Am I missing something?

Now we're getting somewhere...the point of this exercise is to point out how terrible most "expert" rankings are.It'll be interesting to see if we can draw some conclusions by year's end.There is always a method to my madness.

you spout this crap time and time again...there is no method. You have nothing to prove. We all know how this will play out...you will make a "bold" call. If your call pans out, great. If it doesn't (which, based on your past history is likely), people will mock you. You will call them idiots and make other insulting remarks. If anyone throws it back, you will report them. This has played out many times already. The whole while, you will drop vague hints about trying to prove something and demonstrate that you are smarter than everyone else, but at no time will you come close to suggesting what it is that you are trying to prove. I suppose in the end, a great time will be had by all, but you will go no further in demonstrating your overall FF philosophy and/or strategy, because in the end, you have nothing more to bring to the table - you have nothing unique that 30k message board subscribers haven't already thought of.

Nails it!

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Orton had a pretty good game. Schaub was phenomenal though.

Yeah, not bad, but Schaub had Orton by more than 50% in TDs and passing yards as well as 1000+% in rushing yards.

Yeah, but Schaub went to overtime so it's not fair.

 

[tangfoot]

People are missing the boat on the really major uselessness angle of this post.It's that without projections, the comparison is 100% relative. The only thing success or failure in this prognostication means is where Orton finishes the week relative to Matt Schaub.This is useless to people who own Orton as a member of a committee, because since it allows for the possibility that Schaub will crap the bed entirely, it says nothing about the value of Orton this week relative to other likely members of a QB committee.This is useless to people who own Orton AND Schaub, in the first place because there aren't very many of them to begin with, and in the second place, because whether you believe the OP or not, nobody is benching Matt Schaub for Kyle Orton this early in the season.This is useless to people hoping to find a little bit of insight or discussion about what kinds of production are likely from both DEN and HOU offenses, since no attempt is made to quantify.The only person such a post is even remotely useful to is the OP, and even then, only so he can yell, "I found a nut! I found a nut!"Something like the MOP or Otis posts have some spine, and some substance. Almost doesn't matter if they turn out well or not, since they actually offer something measurable. This is just empty, pointless, and self-serving. Far better suited to one of the other forums.

This is a great post.You see, LHUCKS doesn't get it. Never has. Threads like this actually make him feel good about himself.And, the actual reason he doesn't critique the FBG's pre-season rankings anymore is that he has bombed worse than Matt Leinart the last few attempts. For those who don't know, back in the day (about 5 years ago) LHUCKS made a name for himself around here when he nailed several pre-season player predictions. The following year his pre-season ranking thread was much anticipated. He BOMBED but, predictably, didn't admit to it.So, in an effort to redeem himself he then changed the methodology of his critique so that he didn't have to stick his neck out so far. His predictions/critique contained far less substance and were not dissimilar to the useless rhetoric you see in this thread. The problem was, he still bombed. So, now he has retreated out of the picture under the ruse that he is being otherwise punished by the staff for taking shots at their predictions, which is obviously untrue.LHUCKS is a an iTrainwreck that has been going on for years.

I don't agree with Felix Jones schtick, nor his prognostications. But, at least Felix Jones has balls enough to make predictions. There are a bunch of you who only use this forum to flame Felix Jones, but lack the cajones to take a stand on any player. Felix Jones up - if you're going to criticize, be willing to lay it on the line. You mean Felix Jones was wrong about players? Gee, I guess that makes Felix Jones horrible. Why do we even use this site, given that Felix Jones the previous year shows how bad the Felix Jones are at prognosticating. I guess Felix Jones are awful too.Felix Jones.

Fixed

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Orton had a pretty good game. Schaub was phenomenal though.

Schaub looked great.So I missed on a bold call...isn't the first time and wont be the last.

If I hit 50 percent of these that's actually a phenomenal rate, but I wouldn't expect a lot of the haters to understand that...so I'll go ahead and let them make fools of themselves.

Sorry no, missing 50% on 'bold' calls which is just predicting that players with tough matchups will be outperformed by players with easier matchups but lower ADPs is not impressive. I'm not a hater, just speaking the truth.

wow, quite a few not grasping a rather simple concept.

Oh believe me, I get it.

You're calling a 4-1 odds shots (or worse) proposition. Based on that, a 20% success rate would be "Even Money" over time.

However, you come off as aloof when you just don't explain it. But then again, I can understand why you'd be defensive here in this thread. I could see why you might like Washington to hold back the Texans' passing game and also for Orton to go off. It was a decent proposition. Just explain yourself better and don't come off as some stuffed shirt professor who doesn't have time to explain what you think is a basic concept to someone.

 

[bonesman]

People are missing the boat on the really major uselessness angle of this post.It's that without projections, the comparison is 100% relative. The only thing success or failure in this prognostication means is where Orton finishes the week relative to Matt Schaub.This is useless to people who own Orton as a member of a committee, because since it allows for the possibility that Schaub will crap the bed entirely, it says nothing about the value of Orton this week relative to other likely members of a QB committee.This is useless to people who own Orton AND Schaub, in the first place because there aren't very many of them to begin with, and in the second place, because whether you believe the OP or not, nobody is benching Matt Schaub for Kyle Orton this early in the season.This is useless to people hoping to find a little bit of insight or discussion about what kinds of production are likely from both DEN and HOU offenses, since no attempt is made to quantify.The only person such a post is even remotely useful to is the OP, and even then, only so he can yell, "I found a nut! I found a nut!"Something like the MOP or Otis posts have some spine, and some substance. Almost doesn't matter if they turn out well or not, since they actually offer something measurable. This is just empty, pointless, and self-serving. Far better suited to one of the other forums.

This is a great post.You see, LHUCKS doesn't get it. Never has. Threads like this actually make him feel good about himself.And, the actual reason he doesn't critique the FBG's pre-season rankings anymore is that he has bombed worse than Matt Leinart the last few attempts. For those who don't know, back in the day (about 5 years ago) LHUCKS made a name for himself around here when he nailed several pre-season player predictions. The following year his pre-season ranking thread was much anticipated. He BOMBED but, predictably, didn't admit to it.So, in an effort to redeem himself he then changed the methodology of his critique so that he didn't have to stick his neck out so far. His predictions/critique contained far less substance and were not dissimilar to the useless rhetoric you see in this thread. The problem was, he still bombed. So, now he has retreated out of the picture under the ruse that he is being otherwise punished by the staff for taking shots at their predictions, which is obviously untrue.LHUCKS is a an iTrainwreck that has been going on for years.

I don't agree with Felix Jones schtick, nor his prognostications. But, at least Felix Jones has balls enough to make predictions. There are a bunch of you who only use this forum to flame Felix Jones, but lack the cajones to take a stand on any player. Felix Jones up - if you're going to criticize, be willing to lay it on the line. You mean Felix Jones was wrong about players? Gee, I guess that makes Felix Jones horrible. Why do we even use this site, given that Felix Jones the previous year shows how bad the Felix Jones are at prognosticating. I guess Felix Jones are awful too.Felix Jones.

Felixed

 

[LHUCKS]

Oh believe me, I get it. You're calling a 4-1 odds shots (or worse) proposition. Based on that, a 20% success rate would be "Even Money" over time.

Correct, I knew the staff wouldn't have a problem with a rather simple concept.

 

[tangfoot]

Oh believe me, I get it.

You're calling a 4-1 odds shots (or worse) proposition. Based on that, a 20% success rate would be "Even Money" over time.

Correct, I knew the staff wouldn't have a problem with a rather simple concept.

Just for the plebes, I ask you to put odds on the propositions you're making. What probability do they have in your mind? Perhaps I should wait until the Week 3 thread to ask you. After the fact seems a little anticlimactic.

 

[zoonation]

Oh believe me, I get it. You're calling a 4-1 odds shots (or worse) proposition. Based on that, a 20% success rate would be "Even Money" over time.

Correct, I knew the staff wouldn't have a problem with a rather simple concept.

you are so full of ####. that isn't what you are doing at all. please point to a single post of yours in this thread to support this assertion.

 

[zoonation]

Much like my Ray Rice vs. Bradshaw post from last week, this is my call for Week 2.Orton outscores Schaub even though pretty much every "expert" has Schaub ranked SIGNIFICANTLY higher than Orton.Silly 40K "experts" with journalim/communication degrees trying to step into my FF world...get another hobby...and some basic analytical skills while you're at it.

yeah, there is some really heavy analysis going on here.

 

[LHUCKS]

Oh believe me, I get it. You're calling a 4-1 odds shots (or worse) proposition. Based on that, a 20% success rate would be "Even Money" over time.

Correct, I knew the staff wouldn't have a problem with a rather simple concept.

you are so full of ####. that isn't what you are doing at all. please point to a single post of yours in this thread to support this assertion.

Please leave the thread, all you do is bring negativity and distract the real conversation. Shoo.

 

[zoonation]

Oh believe me, I get it. You're calling a 4-1 odds shots (or worse) proposition. Based on that, a 20% success rate would be "Even Money" over time.

Correct, I knew the staff wouldn't have a problem with a rather simple concept.

you are so full of ####. that isn't what you are doing at all. please point to a single post of yours in this thread to support this assertion.

Please leave the thread, all you do is bring negativity and distract the real conversation. Shoo.

What is the real conversation going on in here, LHUCKS? You haven't posted a single thing of substance in this thread. This thread's sole purpose is to watch you make a fool of yourself, and I will happily participate if I feel like it.

 

[BassNBrew]

Oh believe me, I get it. You're calling a 4-1 odds shots (or worse) proposition. Based on that, a 20% success rate would be "Even Money" over time.

Correct, I knew the staff wouldn't have a problem with a rather simple concept.

Actually he fell into the same trap you did. I shocked Jeff would overlook basic fundamentals...you, not so much.

 

[Jayrod]

You're still silly, LHUCKS.

And please report me again.

 

[RudeDog]

I don't think anyone here has actually grasped the reasoning behind LHUCKS original posting. He still feels Leinert is the greatest QB ever and he can only see the field now if Schaub fails. Hence the "voodoo" of the bold prediction.

 

[Winky the tunnel ferret]

LHUCKS should not only be barred from posting his drivel in the SP, he should be flat out banned. This is worse than worthless crap. Every week LHUCKS stumbles into the Shark Pool, drops his trousers and unleashes a torrent of piss upon us all.

 

[Winky the tunnel ferret]

Oh believe me, I get it.

You're calling a 4-1 odds shots (or worse) proposition. Based on that, a 20% success rate would be "Even Money" over time.

Correct, I knew the staff wouldn't have a problem with a rather simple concept.

you are so full of ####. that isn't what you are doing at all. please point to a single post of yours in this thread to support this assertion.

Please leave the thread, all you do is bring negativity and distract the real conversation. Shoo.

Link

 

[heidbrink]

Bob's Awesome Lasagna

Rated: *****

Submitted By: Bob

Prep Time: 30 Minutes

Cook Time: 1 Hour

Ready In: 1 Hour 30 Minutes

Servings: 12

"This is a traditional baked lasagna that is a favorite in our family. Ground beef, cottage cheese, and mozzarella make it rich and filling."



Ingredients:

8 ounces lasagna noodles

1 pound ground beef

1/4 cup minced onions

1 teaspoon salt

1/2 teaspoon garlic salt

1 (32 ounce) jar spaghetti sauce

1 (16 ounce) package large curd cottage

cheese

1 pound mozzarella cheese, shredded

Directions:

1. Bring a large pot of lightly salted water to a boil. Cook noodles in boiling water for 8 to 10 minutes, or until al dente; drain.

2. In a large skillet over medium heat, saute ground beef, onions, salt and garlic salt until meat is brown. Drain excess fat, add spaghetti sauce to beef mixture, and bring to a boil. Reduce heat, and simmer for 15 to 20 minutes.

3. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Grease a 9x13 inch glass baking pan.

4. Line bottom of pan with three lasagna noodles. Spread 1/3 of sauce mixture over noodles. Layer 1/3 of the cottage cheese over the sauce. Sprinkle 1/3 of the mozzarella over the cottage cheese. Repeat this layering process until all ingredients are used up.

5. Bake in the preheated oven for one hour. Let stand for 10 minutes before serving.

 

[cobalt_27]

How is this useful prediction in the first place? How many teams have Orton and Schaub on the roster? Am I missing something?

Now we're getting somewhere...the point of this exercise is to point out how terrible most "expert" rankings are.It'll be interesting to see if we can draw some conclusions by year's end.There is always a method to my madness.

you spout this crap time and time again...there is no method. You have nothing to prove. Wee all know how this will play out...you will make a "bold" call. If your call pans out, great. If it doesn't (which, based on your past history is likely), people will mock you. You will call them idiots and make other insulting remarks. If anyone throws it back, you will report them. This has played out many times already. The whole while, you will drop vague hints about trying to prove something and demonstrate that you are smarter than everyone else, but at no time will you come close to suggesting what it is that you are trying to prove. I suppose in the end, a great time will be had by all, but you well go no further in demonstrating your overall FF philosophy and/or strategy, because in the end, you have nothing more to bring to the table - you have nothing unique that 30k message board subscribers haven't already thought of.

Nails it!

Exactly. Would be great if the staff here would recognize the fishing going on here and finally retire lhucks for good. It's ben long overdue.

 

[Short Corner]

Bob's Awesome Lasagna

Rated: *****

Submitted By: Bob

Prep Time: 30 Minutes

Cook Time: 1 Hour

Ready In: 1 Hour 30 Minutes

Servings: 12

"This is a traditional baked lasagna that is a favorite in our family. Ground beef, cottage cheese, and mozzarella make it rich and filling."



Ingredients:

8 ounces lasagna noodles

1 pound ground beef

1/4 cup minced onions

1 teaspoon salt

1/2 teaspoon garlic salt

1 (32 ounce) jar spaghetti sauce

1 (16 ounce) package large curd cottage

cheese

1 pound mozzarella cheese, shredded

Directions:

1. Bring a large pot of lightly salted water to a boil. Cook noodles in boiling water for 8 to 10 minutes, or until al dente; drain.

2. In a large skillet over medium heat, saute ground beef, onions, salt and garlic salt until meat is brown. Drain excess fat, add spaghetti sauce to beef mixture, and bring to a boil. Reduce heat, and simmer for 15 to 20 minutes.

3. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Grease a 9x13 inch glass baking pan.

4. Line bottom of pan with three lasagna noodles. Spread 1/3 of sauce mixture over noodles. Layer 1/3 of the cottage cheese over the sauce. Sprinkle 1/3 of the mozzarella over the cottage cheese. Repeat this layering process until all ingredients are used up.

5. Bake in the preheated oven for one hour. Let stand for 10 minutes before serving.

Going to have to disallow this one.

 

[plyka]

the credit goes to those who make the predictions, not the women who stand around on the sidelines comparing panties and handbags and not making any bold calls right or wrong, because whether right or wrong the bold predictor will at least never be included with the timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. Just something t o think about while you watch your opposition take it to the bank!

It's not really about how "bold" your call is in fantasy, it's about how RIGHT your call is. Did some leagues start adding "bold points" to the scoring system?

 

[Short Corner]

Orton had a pretty good game. Schaub was phenomenal though.

Schaub looked great.So I missed on a bold call...isn't the first time and wont be the last.

If I hit 50 percent of these that's actually a phenomenal rate, but I wouldn't expect a lot of the haters to understand that...so I'll go ahead and let them make fools of themselves.

Sorry no, missing 50% on 'bold' calls which is just predicting that players with tough matchups will be outperformed by players with easier matchups but lower ADPs is not impressive. I'm not a hater, just speaking the truth.

wow, quite a few not grasping a rather simple concept.

Oh believe me, I get it.

You're calling a 4-1 odds shots (or worse) proposition. Based on that, a 20% success rate would be "Even Money" over time.

However, you come off as aloof when you just don't explain it. But then again, I can understand why you'd be defensive here in this thread. I could see why you might like Washington to hold back the Texans' passing game and also for Orton to go off. It was a decent proposition. Just explain yourself better and don't come off as some stuffed shirt professor who doesn't have time to explain what you think is a basic concept to someone.

Umm, in what world are you ahead if you are right 20% of the time? Pretty sure none of us are awarding 4x FF points for making bold line up moves.

 

[Getinthemix]

Orton had a pretty good game. Schaub was phenomenal though.

Schaub looked great.So I missed on a bold call...isn't the first time and wont be the last.

If I hit 50 percent of these that's actually a phenomenal rate, but I wouldn't expect a lot of the haters to understand that...so I'll go ahead and let them make fools of themselves.

Sorry no, missing 50% on 'bold' calls which is just predicting that players with tough matchups will be outperformed by players with easier matchups but lower ADPs is not impressive. I'm not a hater, just speaking the truth.

wow, quite a few not grasping a rather simple concept.

Oh believe me, I get it.

You're calling a 4-1 odds shots (or worse) proposition. Based on that, a 20% success rate would be "Even Money" over time.

However, you come off as aloof when you just don't explain it. But then again, I can understand why you'd be defensive here in this thread. I could see why you might like Washington to hold back the Texans' passing game and also for Orton to go off. It was a decent proposition. Just explain yourself better and don't come off as some stuffed shirt professor who doesn't have time to explain what you think is a basic concept to someone.

Where does one go to get 4:1 odds on Orton to produce more FF points than Schaub? This Chase-like randomly assigned 4:1 odds really has zero bearing on this conversation. If you started Orton over Schaub, you left points on the bench. Period.

 

[jon_mx]

Umm, in what world are you ahead if you are right 20% of the time? Pretty sure none of us are awarding 4x FF points for making bold line up moves.

It would be an interesting concept. Sure you can draft CJ first, but he only gets 1x points, while Matt Forte was a 2x guy. Kind of levels the playing field.

 

[killrobotkill]

Having said that, I happen to agree, in a purely subjective manner, that Orton will score more fantasy points than Schaub this week, and will join in his Bold Prediction. I will stake my entire reputation on it.

My reputation is RUINED! Alas.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Everyone in this thread is to blame. 4 pages of this....really? He picked Orton over Schaub and that gets 4 pages.

I don't get it. If you don't like him, why are you giving him the time of day. I've seen this same kind of thing going on now for years. All I can say is keep up the good work, John. After just 2 weeks into the season this is what people want to post about. Posters are saying you shouldn't make this thread but I don't believe them, a thread doesn't get 4 or 5 pages because there's no interest.

 

[Welshie]

Everyone in this thread is to blame. 4 pages of this....really? He picked Orton over Schaub and that gets 4 pages.I don't get it. If you don't like him, why are you giving him the time of day. I've seen this same kind of thing going on now for years. All I can say is keep up the good work, John. After just 2 weeks into the season this is what people want to post about. Posters are saying you shouldn't make this thread but I don't believe them, a thread doesn't get 4 or 5 pages because there's no interest.

It is pretty funny, though. He goes out of his way to target Schaub as a bad play and he has the best game of his career.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Everyone in this thread is to blame. 4 pages of this....really? He picked Orton over Schaub and that gets 4 pages.I don't get it. If you don't like him, why are you giving him the time of day. I've seen this same kind of thing going on now for years. All I can say is keep up the good work, John. After just 2 weeks into the season this is what people want to post about. Posters are saying you shouldn't make this thread but I don't believe them, a thread doesn't get 4 or 5 pages because there's no interest.

It is pretty funny, though. He goes out of his way to target Schaub as a bad play and he has the best game of his career.

Actually I think he was targeting Orton as a better play.. Rather than Schaub as a bad play.. And Orton did play pretty well. If it wasn't for Houston getting blown out in the first half and the overtime, Orton may have outscored Schaub... Very likely...

 

[Short Corner]

Everyone in this thread is to blame. 4 pages of this....really? He picked Orton over Schaub and that gets 4 pages.I don't get it. If you don't like him, why are you giving him the time of day. I've seen this same kind of thing going on now for years. All I can say is keep up the good work, John. After just 2 weeks into the season this is what people want to post about. Posters are saying you shouldn't make this thread but I don't believe them, a thread doesn't get 4 or 5 pages because there's no interest.

It is pretty funny, though. He goes out of his way to target Schaub as a bad play and he has the best game of his career.

Actually I think he was targeting Orton as a better play.. Rather than Schaub as a bad play.. And Orton did play pretty well. If it wasn't for Houston getting blown out in the first half and the overtime, Orton may have outscored Schaub... Very likely...

 

[groin pains]

Hey LHUCKS where are you? Need this weeks prediction so I can go against it....AGAIN!

 

[Cassius]

Orton had a pretty good game. Schaub was phenomenal though.

Schaub looked great.So I missed on a bold call...isn't the first time and wont be the last.If I hit 50 percent of these that's actually a phenomenal rate, but I wouldn't expect a lot of the haters to understand that...so I'll go ahead and let them make fools of themselves.

Then why bother making these "bold predictions?"Seriously. There isn't a money line in FF. You either start the better player or you don't. So if you're making predictions about one player scoring more than the other and you don't expect to hit 50%, you should probably do the SP a favor and not post this crap.

 

[mbuehner]

Tried to cash my 'bold' ticket at Harrahs this morning. Damned haters wouldn't pay it off, just because it lost or something. I have reported them to mods.

 

[Balance]

LHUCKS working people over for another 4 pages.

Guy has you ALL on a string... try not to trip over yourselves as run back to check on this thread 30 seconds from now.

Guy says "boo" and 100 people run to post in his thread... awesome.

 

[switz]

People are missing the boat on the really major uselessness angle of this post.It's that without projections, the comparison is 100% relative. The only thing success or failure in this prognostication means is where Orton finishes the week relative to Matt Schaub.This is useless to people who own Orton as a member of a committee, because since it allows for the possibility that Schaub will crap the bed entirely, it says nothing about the value of Orton this week relative to other likely members of a QB committee.This is useless to people who own Orton AND Schaub, in the first place because there aren't very many of them to begin with, and in the second place, because whether you believe the OP or not, nobody is benching Matt Schaub for Kyle Orton this early in the season.This is useless to people hoping to find a little bit of insight or discussion about what kinds of production are likely from both DEN and HOU offenses, since no attempt is made to quantify.The only person such a post is even remotely useful to is the OP, and even then, only so he can yell, "I found a nut! I found a nut!"Something like the MOP or Otis posts have some spine, and some substance. Almost doesn't matter if they turn out well or not, since they actually offer something measurable. This is just empty, pointless, and self-serving. Far better suited to one of the other forums.

This is a great post.You see, LHUCKS doesn't get it. Never has. Threads like this actually make him feel good about himself.And, the actual reason he doesn't critique the FBG's pre-season rankings anymore is that he has bombed worse than Matt Leinart the last few attempts. For those who don't know, back in the day (about 5 years ago) LHUCKS made a name for himself around here when he nailed several pre-season player predictions. The following year his pre-season ranking thread was much anticipated. He BOMBED but, predictably, didn't admit to it.So, in an effort to redeem himself he then changed the methodology of his critique so that he didn't have to stick his neck out so far. His predictions/critique contained far less substance and were not dissimilar to the useless rhetoric you see in this thread. The problem was, he still bombed. So, now he has retreated out of the picture under the ruse that he is being otherwise punished by the staff for taking shots at their predictions, which is obviously untrue.LHUCKS is a an iTrainwreck that has been going on for years.

I don't agree with Felix Jones schtick, nor his prognostications. But, at least Felix Jones has balls enough to make predictions. There are a bunch of you who only use this forum to flame Felix Jones, but lack the cajones to take a stand on any player. Felix Jones up - if you're going to criticize, be willing to lay it on the line. You mean Felix Jones was wrong about players? Gee, I guess that makes Felix Jones horrible. Why do we even use this site, given that Felix Jones the previous year shows how bad the Felix Jones are at prognosticating. I guess Felix Jones are awful too.Felix Jones.

Felixed

at bonesman, that was funny@tangfoot - not sure what your intention was there... if it was to make light of something, it was funny. If it was to diminish what I said due to my unabashed fandom of Jones potential, then you are just playing into LHUCKS hands... and you probably don't even get it.

 

[DansRams]

I can't believe I read this whole thread

 

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I project both will score points this week. Eat it Expurts.

 

[tangfoot]

@tangfoot - not sure what your intention was there... if it was to make light of something, it was funny. If it was to diminish what I said due to my unabashed fandom of Jones potential, then you are just playing into LHUCKS hands... and you probably don't even get it.

Read the words in bold as one sentence.

 

[switz]

@tangfoot - not sure what your intention was there... if it was to make light of something, it was funny. If it was to diminish what I said due to my unabashed fandom of Jones potential, then you are just playing into LHUCKS hands... and you probably don't even get it.

Read the words in bold as one sentence.

Cool, I can live with that.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

How is this useful prediction in the first place? How many teams have Orton and Schaub on the roster? Am I missing something?

Lhucks threads are heavy on the and light on utility.in fairness he got 1/2 right as Orton played well, and prior to that 17 pts comeback and OT he may have been right.The real losers here are skins fans. You are in for a LONG year.

 

[baconisgood]

Orton had a pretty good game. Schaub was phenomenal though.

Schaub looked great.So I missed on a bold call...isn't the first time and wont be the last.

If I hit 50 percent of these that's actually a phenomenal rate, but I wouldn't expect a lot of the haters to understand that...so I'll go ahead and let them make fools of themselves.

Sorry no, missing 50% on 'bold' calls which is just predicting that players with tough matchups will be outperformed by players with easier matchups but lower ADPs is not impressive. I'm not a hater, just speaking the truth.

wow, quite a few not grasping a rather simple concept.

Hey LHucks-

A guy on the radio yesterday morning was offering me free betting advice. Should I take it? Keep in mind he had 9 winning bets last week and he was 7-2 the week before. This is a simple concept right?

 

[tangfoot]

The real losers here are skins fans. You are in for a LONG year.

This team is capable of competing for the NFC East crown. Based on what I see from the other teams in the NFC East so far, that is.

 

[thehornet]

Everyone in this thread is to blame. 4 pages of this....really? He picked Orton over Schaub and that gets 4 pages.I don't get it. If you don't like him, why are you giving him the time of day. I've seen this same kind of thing going on now for years. All I can say is keep up the good work, John. After just 2 weeks into the season this is what people want to post about. Posters are saying you shouldn't make this thread but I don't believe them, a thread doesn't get 4 or 5 pages because there's no interest.

It is pretty funny, though. He goes out of his way to target Schaub as a bad play and he has the best game of his career.

Actually I think he was targeting Orton as a better play.. Rather than Schaub as a bad play.. And Orton did play pretty well. If it wasn't for Houston getting blown out in the first half and the overtime, Orton may have outscored Schaub... Very likely...

these 2 are the same person. I KNEW IT from the second hustler started posting. (not talking about welshie)

 

[doowain]

In other news.....Matt Leinart outscored Philip Rivers.

That is, if your league gives points for each splinter in your bum.

 

[VICK-tory]

I can't believe I read this whole thread

Fun Bump.This thread is the most entertaining thing on this board in years

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Everyone in this thread is to blame. 4 pages of this....really? He picked Orton over Schaub and that gets 4 pages.I don't get it. If you don't like him, why are you giving him the time of day. I've seen this same kind of thing going on now for years. All I can say is keep up the good work, John. After just 2 weeks into the season this is what people want to post about. Posters are saying you shouldn't make this thread but I don't believe them, a thread doesn't get 4 or 5 pages because there's no interest.

It is pretty funny, though. He goes out of his way to target Schaub as a bad play and he has the best game of his career.

Actually I think he was targeting Orton as a better play.. Rather than Schaub as a bad play.. And Orton did play pretty well. If it wasn't for Houston getting blown out in the first half and the overtime, Orton may have outscored Schaub... Very likely...

these 2 are the same person. I KNEW IT from the second hustler started posting. (not talking about welshie)

... Ziiinnnn-ger... wow, you're so clever.. The Hornet strikes again folks... Try having some depth my man...

 

[Johnny Ice]

How is this useful prediction in the first place? How many teams have Orton and Schaub on the roster? Am I missing something?

Lhucks threads are heavy on the and light on utility.

in fairness he got 1/2 right as Orton played well, and prior to that 17 pts comeback and OT he may have been right.

The real losers here are skins fans. You are in for a LONG year.

That's an extremely odd take, especially from a Lions fan. But I digress.

 

[SYMPHONY X]

This has probably already been mentioned in this thread, but Orton was about 1 1/2 yards away from 2 more TD's. Royal was stopped at the 1-yard line on a catch, and Daniel Graham, I believe, was stopped at the 1/2-yard line on another catch.

Orton's day could have easily been 300-yds/4-tds. Still a little below Schaub's monster day, but not by much. Not defending LHUCKS here, but he really didn't make that bad of a prediction this time.