Otis diet fad of the month thread - Potato mania!!1 (1 Viewer)

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Maurile is like the Mozart of internet posting. It truly is a beautiful thing to watch.

I have to admit that you might be right about that. It's funny watching him take on a guy who's obviously being a huge tool and systematically beating him into the ground. All while ignoring the tool's little laughing emoji's and know-it-all cockiness. If I were {icon}, I'd take a week or two off from posting after that ### whooping.

@ huge tool... apparently some of you kids take the ol' fantasy football message board a little more seriously than I do. It's no secret that I enjoy trolling a bit and quite a few of my posts in here were no exception.

If my means of killing a slow afternoon at the office offends you, I'd strongly suggest changing your perspective a bit and maybe not taking what I post so seriously. I know I usually don't.

So you being a doosh is our problem not yours. Got it.

Pretty much.

 

[Mister Martie]

The 'ole serious business backpedal. Always a classic.

 

[culdeus]

What's the over / under here? 4.5 days?

I'm thinking it's more like 3.5-4, but the line is moving. Day 1 was a breeze. I feel a little like garbage this morning, and I don't know if that's because of the very low carbs yesterday or because our 4 day old is waking us up every 3 hours....

If you have been eating standard american for months it will take you up to 2 weeks to go full keto. You will lose all your water and glyco first and that will prevent keto for a really, really long time. If you want to know when to stop phase 1 go out and buy the pee strips. I think if you got keto and put a picture of a positive strip next to a penny you would win this bet.

Note: I don't advocate anyone doing keto, just throwing out the methods that would work best here.

 

[Keerock]

What's the over / under here? 4.5 days?

I'm thinking it's more like 3.5-4, but the line is moving. Day 1 was a breeze. I feel a little like garbage this morning, and I don't know if that's because of the very low carbs yesterday or because our 4 day old is waking us up every 3 hours....

You will have the "keto-flu" at times during the first week or so. I think I may be over mine now. Manifests itself in me as a wicked headache and an overall fatigue feeling.

This morning I feel much better.

 

[James Daulton]

What's the over / under here? 4.5 days?

I'm thinking it's more like 3.5-4, but the line is moving. Day 1 was a breeze. I feel a little like garbage this morning, and I don't know if that's because of the very low carbs yesterday or because our 4 day old is waking us up every 3 hours....

You will have the "keto-flu" at times during the first week or so. I think I may be over mine now. Manifests itself in me as a wicked headache and an overall fatigue feeling.

This morning I feel much better.

Yep, you have to go into this expecting to feel like crap for a week or so. Those who make it out the other side often say that they then feel even better than before starting the diet.

Stay strong Oat!

 

[Da Guru]

Oats: You're planning to last a month on this?

No way do I do a strict atkins for a month. I'm thinking kickstart with strict ultra low carb for a couple weeks, then just stay low carb after that. But not lunatic strict.

why don't you just make a lifestyle change and improve your diet and not eat certain foods over the long term? It's a lot easier to make consistent changes to your lifestyle instead of these stop/start, quick fix gimmicks.

Partly because I'm curious, partly because what's the harm in a jumpstart?

How many times have you tried to jump start over the past 5 or 6 years?

5 or 6 times.

 

[Slapdash]

Oats: You're planning to last a month on this?

No way do I do a strict atkins for a month. I'm thinking kickstart with strict ultra low carb for a couple weeks, then just stay low carb after that. But not lunatic strict.

why don't you just make a lifestyle change and improve your diet and not eat certain foods over the long term? It's a lot easier to make consistent changes to your lifestyle instead of these stop/start, quick fix gimmicks.

Partly because I'm curious, partly because what's the harm in a jumpstart?

How many times have you tried to jump start over the past 5 or 6 years?

5 or 6 times.

This time he is doing a method that actually works though.

 

[Otis]

Oats: You're planning to last a month on this?

No way do I do a strict atkins for a month. I'm thinking kickstart with strict ultra low carb for a couple weeks, then just stay low carb after that. But not lunatic strict.

why don't you just make a lifestyle change and improve your diet and not eat certain foods over the long term? It's a lot easier to make consistent changes to your lifestyle instead of these stop/start, quick fix gimmicks.

Partly because I'm curious, partly because what's the harm in a jumpstart?

How many times have you tried to jump start over the past 5 or 6 years?

5 or 6 times.

This time he is doing a method that actually works though.

Mmmmm, sarcasm. I was warned to expect that on the internet sometimes.

 

[Otis]

What's the over / under here? 4.5 days?

I'm thinking it's more like 3.5-4, but the line is moving. Day 1 was a breeze. I feel a little like garbage this morning, and I don't know if that's because of the very low carbs yesterday or because our 4 day old is waking us up every 3 hours....

You will have the "keto-flu" at times during the first week or so. I think I may be over mine now. Manifests itself in me as a wicked headache and an overall fatigue feeling.

This morning I feel much better.

Yep, you have to go into this expecting to feel like crap for a week or so. Those who make it out the other side often say that they then feel even better than before starting the diet.

Stay strong Oat!

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Juice fasting works for some people too. It's hard to think of a diet plan that ISN'T significantly better than the standard American diet. Atkins might be the golden ticket for Oats. It might not.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Oats: You're planning to last a month on this?

No way do I do a strict atkins for a month. I'm thinking kickstart with strict ultra low carb for a couple weeks, then just stay low carb after that. But not lunatic strict.

why don't you just make a lifestyle change and improve your diet and not eat certain foods over the long term? It's a lot easier to make consistent changes to your lifestyle instead of these stop/start, quick fix gimmicks.

Partly because I'm curious, partly because what's the harm in a jumpstart?

How many times have you tried to jump start over the past 5 or 6 years?

5 or 6 times.

This time he is doing a method that actually works though.

Mmmmm, sarcasm. I was warned to expect that on the internet sometimes.

I think Slapdash is a legitimate advocate for low carb diets.

 

[Slapdash]

Oats: You're planning to last a month on this?

No way do I do a strict atkins for a month. I'm thinking kickstart with strict ultra low carb for a couple weeks, then just stay low carb after that. But not lunatic strict.

why don't you just make a lifestyle change and improve your diet and not eat certain foods over the long term? It's a lot easier to make consistent changes to your lifestyle instead of these stop/start, quick fix gimmicks.

Partly because I'm curious, partly because what's the harm in a jumpstart?

How many times have you tried to jump start over the past 5 or 6 years?

5 or 6 times.

This time he is doing a method that actually works though.

Mmmmm, sarcasm. I was warned to expect that on the internet sometimes.

I wasn't being sarcastic; I believe low-carb diets are the best way to sustainably lose weight.

Years back I lost 60 pounds over the course of 6 months following it that has almost all stayed off. Without cutting out alcohol.

 

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The 'ole serious business backpedal. Always a classic.

Exactly

 

[Otis]

What's the over / under here? 4.5 days?

I'm thinking it's more like 3.5-4, but the line is moving. Day 1 was a breeze. I feel a little like garbage this morning, and I don't know if that's because of the very low carbs yesterday or because our 4 day old is waking us up every 3 hours....

You will have the "keto-flu" at times during the first week or so. I think I may be over mine now. Manifests itself in me as a wicked headache and an overall fatigue feeling.

This morning I feel much better.

Yep, you have to go into this expecting to feel like crap for a week or so. Those who make it out the other side often say that they then feel even better than before starting the diet.

Stay strong Oat!

 

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Yep, you have to go into this expecting to feel like crap for a week or so. Those who make it out the other side often say that they then feel even better than before starting the diet.

Stay strong Oat!

Truth on the bolded. When doing Keto I felt like I had a damn body buzz... tons of energy. Almost to the point where it was hard to sleep.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Juice fasting works for some people too. It's hard to think of a diet plan that ISN'T significantly better than the standard American diet. Atkins might be the golden ticket for Oats. It might not.

To use the football analogy. It really doesn't matter if a football team scores more points than the opponent by using stifling defense and controlling time of possession with the running game or does it by a fancy passing attack and an opportunistic ball-hawking defense that bends but doesn't break. Both work, and different approaches will be better for different teams depending on personnel.

As Maurile points out, everybody saying to eat less and move more are right. And every one of us might have different environments that create challenges to that (I fell off the Primal wagon when I changed job and could no longer easily get protein and green veggie lunches without carbs at my old firm's cafeteria). Otis is going to have to factor in what his wife will eat. What's easily available for him at work. What trigger foods are too available to him, and what program can best accommodate what he finds satisfying.

 

[hagmania]

Yep, you have to go into this expecting to feel like crap for a week or so. Those who make it out the other side often say that they then feel even better than before starting the diet.

Stay strong Oat!

Truth on the bolded. When doing Keto I felt like I had a damn body buzz... tons of energy. Almost to the point where it was hard to sleep.

This is where I am right now. I toss and turn forever...

 

[Keerock]

Juice fasting works for some people too. It's hard to think of a diet plan that ISN'T significantly better than the standard American diet. Atkins might be the golden ticket for Oats. It might not.

Mmmm... like the golden ticket you might find in a chocolate bar?

 

[Statcruncher]

With headlines like “Saturated Fat is Not Your Heart’s Enemy,” and “NOT GUILTY: The Long-Standing Vilification of Saturated Fat Finally Turning to Vindication,”(23,24) some of the media and blog coverage of these studies would have you believe that scientists had given a green light to eating bacon, butter, and cheese. But that’s an oversimplified and erroneous interpretation. Read the study and subsequent studies more closely, and the message is more nuanced: Cutting back on saturated fat can be good for health if people replace saturated fat with good fats, especially, polyunsaturated fats. (16,25) Eating good fats in place of saturated fat lowers the “bad” LDL cholesterol, and it improves the ratio of total cholesterol to “good” HDL cholesterol, lowering the risk of heart disease. Eating good fats in place of saturated fat can also help prevent insulin resistance, a precursor to diabetes. (26)

Cutting back on saturated fat will likely have no benefit, however, if people replace saturated fat with refined carbohydrates—white bread, white rice, mashed potatoes, sugary drinks, and the like. Eating refined carbs in place of saturated fat does lower “bad” LDL cholesterol—but it also lowers the “good” HDL cholesterol and increases triglycerides. The net effect is as bad for the heart as eating too much saturated fat—and perhaps even worse for people who have insulin resistance because they are overweight or inactive. (17,25)

(source: some dummies at harvard)

Lol, that at using that Harvard article as your reference. Why didn't you quote the paragraph directly above the one you did quote?

There’s been controversy brewing over the past decade about just how bad saturated fat is for health. Fueling the debate, in part, has been the resurgence of the Atkins Diet, which eschews carbs but allows liberal use of high-fat foods, including foods high in saturated fat—butter, bacon, steak, cheese, and the like. (20) More recently, several studies seemed to suggest that eating diets high in saturated fat did not raise the risk of heart disease—a finding that ran counter to decades of dietary advice. (21,22) One highly-publicized report analyzed the findings of 21 studies that followed 350,000 people for up to 23 years. Investigators looked at the relationship between saturated fat intake and coronary heart disease (CHD), stroke, and cardiovascular disease (CVD). Their controversial conclusion: “There is insufficient evidence from prospective epidemiologic studies to conclude that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD, stroke, or CVD.”(21)

 

[John Bender]

Yep, you have to go into this expecting to feel like crap for a week or so. Those who make it out the other side often say that they then feel even better than before starting the diet.

Stay strong Oat!

Truth on the bolded. When doing Keto I felt like I had a damn body buzz... tons of energy. Almost to the point where it was hard to sleep.

This is where I am right now. I toss and turn forever...

Thirded

I couldn't take a nap if I tried to. When I was fatter, I could nap all day long.

 

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Yep, you have to go into this expecting to feel like crap for a week or so. Those who make it out the other side often say that they then feel even better than before starting the diet.

Stay strong Oat!

Truth on the bolded. When doing Keto I felt like I had a damn body buzz... tons of energy. Almost to the point where it was hard to sleep.

This is where I am right now. I toss and turn forever...

Thirded

I couldn't take a nap if I tried to. When I was fatter, I could nap all day long.

Yep.. used to nap every day at lunch (lived 5 mins from the office). When I did the keto thing, not a chance.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Juice fasting works for some people too. It's hard to think of a diet plan that ISN'T significantly better than the standard American diet. Atkins might be the golden ticket for Oats. It might not.

To use the football analogy. It really doesn't matter if a football team scores more points than the opponent by using stifling defense and controlling time of possession with the running game or does it by a fancy passing attack and an opportunistic ball-hawking defense that bends but doesn't break. Both work, and different approaches will be better for different teams depending on personnel.

As Maurile points out, everybody saying to eat less and move more are right. And every one of us might have different environments that create challenges to that (I fell off the Primal wagon when I changed job and could no longer easily get protein and green veggie lunches without carbs at my old firm's cafeteria). Otis is going to have to factor in what his wife will eat. What's easily available for him at work. What trigger foods are too available to him, and what program can best accommodate what he finds satisfying.

I just have a hard time buying into diets that are by definition temporary. "Eat this stuff for three weeks, then you eat this other stuff." I guess maybe it can work for some people, but I suspect that success rates are low.

 

[General Malaise]

Apple, 2 oz sliced deli turkey, lettuce-pepper-onion salad no dressing and half a kielbasa. No booze. Stayed under 600 calories and ran 3.5 miles. Today is a non fast day but will try to limit carbs as much as possible. Will try to run again. Might have a vodka later. No beer.

 

[General Malaise]

Apple, 2 oz sliced deli turkey, lettuce-pepper-onion salad no dressing and half a kielbasa. No booze. Stayed under 600 calories and ran 3.5 miles. Today is a non fast day but will try to limit carbs as much as possible. Will try to run again. Might have a vodka later. No beer.

 

[General Malaise]

Double post dog ****!

I struggled on the treadmill without much food in the body....duh. But got through it. Was a big fat pale of sweaty mess. Good thing I work out in the minor league rec center gym where a guy on the treadmill next to me had an oxygen mask.

 

[JuniorNB]

Maurile is like the Mozart of internet posting. It truly is a beautiful thing to watch.

I have to admit that you might be right about that. It's funny watching him take on a guy who's obviously being a huge tool and systematically beating him into the ground. All while ignoring the tool's little laughing emoji's and know-it-all cockiness. If I were {icon}, I'd take a week or two off from posting after that ### whooping.

@ huge tool... apparently some of you kids take the ol' fantasy football message board a little more seriously than I do. It's no secret that I enjoy trolling a bit and quite a few of my posts in here were no exception.

If my means of killing a slow afternoon at the office offends you, I'd strongly suggest changing your perspective a bit and maybe not taking what I post so seriously. I know I usually don't.

Offend? I recognized your trolling immediately. Wasn't offended in the slightest. And was enjoying as I watched you get your ### handed to you.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Juice fasting works for some people too. It's hard to think of a diet plan that ISN'T significantly better than the standard American diet. Atkins might be the golden ticket for Oats. It might not.

To use the football analogy. It really doesn't matter if a football team scores more points than the opponent by using stifling defense and controlling time of possession with the running game or does it by a fancy passing attack and an opportunistic ball-hawking defense that bends but doesn't break. Both work, and different approaches will be better for different teams depending on personnel.

As Maurile points out, everybody saying to eat less and move more are right. And every one of us might have different environments that create challenges to that (I fell off the Primal wagon when I changed job and could no longer easily get protein and green veggie lunches without carbs at my old firm's cafeteria). Otis is going to have to factor in what his wife will eat. What's easily available for him at work. What trigger foods are too available to him, and what program can best accommodate what he finds satisfying.

I just have a hard time buying into diets that are by definition temporary. "Eat this stuff for three weeks, then you eat this other stuff." I guess maybe it can work for some people, but I suspect that success rates are low.

I understand that. I don't think Atkins is really all that unique in that aspect. All diets generally have a stricter "corrective" phase and then a looser maintenance phase. And the bigger challenge, in my experience, is always presented by the maintenance phase. Because it's easy to follow a strict diet, and if you're overweight, you're almost certainly getting immediate positive feedback.

Even on "maintenance" Atkins is something like 100 carbs a day. That's very, very little (like one serving of rice). I agree with Maurile that it might be better long term to focus on eating like he was on the maintenance plan, but that's not going to give him satisfying results right away.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Double post dog ****!

I struggled on the treadmill without much food in the body....duh. But got through it. Was a big fat pale of sweaty mess. Good thing I work out in the minor league rec center gym where a guy on the treadmill next to me had an oxygen mask.

What I found on lower carb diets was that the first ten minutes of any aerobic workout felt awful. Eventually, my body would switch to burning fat and I could actually do longer (somewhat lower intensity) workouts. But it was hell if I was trying high intensity interval training or something).

Also, other's mileage may vary, but my muscular endurance went to hell after Atkins and it's never really come back. What I mean is that one set of bench, at just about any weight, just burns me out. My theory is that it dropped my testosterone levels (others have reported similar results anecdotally), but I just don't know. I just know that the two longest periods of ketogenic diets I've ever been on resulted in some pretty serious loss of strength and big spurts of hair loss.

 

[the moops]

Always a good idea to make drastic dietary and lifestyle changes when your wife just got home from the hospital after giving birth.

 

[[icon]]

Apple, 2 oz sliced deli turkey, lettuce-pepper-onion salad no dressing and half a kielbasa. No booze. Stayed under 600 calories and ran 3.5 miles. Today is a non fast day but will try to limit carbs as much as possible. Will try to run again. Might have a vodka later. No beer.

Other great low-cal snacks:

• English Cucumber (or regular) cut into "Chips", doused in vinegar and a dusting of salt.

• Steam a bag/head of broccoli, mist w/ balsamic vinegar

• Rice cake or celery stalk with PB2

 

[glock]

Double post dog ****!

I struggled on the treadmill without much food in the body....duh. But got through it. Was a big fat pale of sweaty mess. Good thing I work out in the minor league rec center gym where a guy on the treadmill next to me had an oxygen mask.

Sorry...

 

[culdeus]

Icon running one of the better trolls in recent memory here.

 

[culdeus]

Juice fasting works for some people too. It's hard to think of a diet plan that ISN'T significantly better than the standard American diet. Atkins might be the golden ticket for Oats. It might not.

To use the football analogy. It really doesn't matter if a football team scores more points than the opponent by using stifling defense and controlling time of possession with the running game or does it by a fancy passing attack and an opportunistic ball-hawking defense that bends but doesn't break. Both work, and different approaches will be better for different teams depending on personnel.

As Maurile points out, everybody saying to eat less and move more are right. And every one of us might have different environments that create challenges to that (I fell off the Primal wagon when I changed job and could no longer easily get protein and green veggie lunches without carbs at my old firm's cafeteria). Otis is going to have to factor in what his wife will eat. What's easily available for him at work. What trigger foods are too available to him, and what program can best accommodate what he finds satisfying.

I just have a hard time buying into diets that are by definition temporary. "Eat this stuff for three weeks, then you eat this other stuff." I guess maybe it can work for some people, but I suspect that success rates are low.

I understand that. I don't think Atkins is really all that unique in that aspect. All diets generally have a stricter "corrective" phase and then a looser maintenance phase. And the bigger challenge, in my experience, is always presented by the maintenance phase. Because it's easy to follow a strict diet, and if you're overweight, you're almost certainly getting immediate positive feedback.

Even on "maintenance" Atkins is something like 100 carbs a day. That's very, very little (like one serving of rice). I agree with Maurile that it might be better long term to focus on eating like he was on the maintenance plan, but that's not going to give him satisfying results right away.

How big are your servings of rice?

 

[John Bender]

Double post dog ****!

I struggled on the treadmill without much food in the body....duh. But got through it. Was a big fat pale of sweaty mess. Good thing I work out in the minor league rec center gym where a guy on the treadmill next to me had an oxygen mask.

What I found on lower carb diets was that the first ten minutes of any aerobic workout felt awful. Eventually, my body would switch to burning fat and I could actually do longer (somewhat lower intensity) workouts. But it was hell if I was trying high intensity interval training or something).

Also, other's mileage may vary, but my muscular endurance went to hell after Atkins and it's never really come back. What I mean is that one set of bench, at just about any weight, just burns me out. My theory is that it dropped my testosterone levels (others have reported similar results anecdotally), but I just don't know. I just know that the two longest periods of ketogenic diets I've ever been on resulted in some pretty serious loss of strength and big spurts of hair loss.

Definitely a lot of truth to this.

Although I was running 30 miles a week at one time with 40 g of carbs per day.

Just have to break through the first 10 minutes.

I lift now 3 days a week but as long as I keep it to cardio-style circuit training, I don't have too much trouble.

 

[[icon]]

And was enjoying as I watched you get your ### handed to you.

You and I have different meanings of getting my "### handed to me". Maurile provided evidence that my opnion of the diet was correct, but perhaps for different reasons than I previously thought. I thanked him for the link and for posting as he's one of the folks who's opinion I actually take seriously on nutritional matters on these forums. Culdeus is another.

If that was the highlight of your day, well... I'm happy I could help? I would suggest you try to get out more though.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Juice fasting works for some people too. It's hard to think of a diet plan that ISN'T significantly better than the standard American diet. Atkins might be the golden ticket for Oats. It might not.

To use the football analogy. It really doesn't matter if a football team scores more points than the opponent by using stifling defense and controlling time of possession with the running game or does it by a fancy passing attack and an opportunistic ball-hawking defense that bends but doesn't break. Both work, and different approaches will be better for different teams depending on personnel.

As Maurile points out, everybody saying to eat less and move more are right. And every one of us might have different environments that create challenges to that (I fell off the Primal wagon when I changed job and could no longer easily get protein and green veggie lunches without carbs at my old firm's cafeteria). Otis is going to have to factor in what his wife will eat. What's easily available for him at work. What trigger foods are too available to him, and what program can best accommodate what he finds satisfying.

I just have a hard time buying into diets that are by definition temporary. "Eat this stuff for three weeks, then you eat this other stuff." I guess maybe it can work for some people, but I suspect that success rates are low.

I understand that. I don't think Atkins is really all that unique in that aspect. All diets generally have a stricter "corrective" phase and then a looser maintenance phase. And the bigger challenge, in my experience, is always presented by the maintenance phase. Because it's easy to follow a strict diet, and if you're overweight, you're almost certainly getting immediate positive feedback.

Even on "maintenance" Atkins is something like 100 carbs a day. That's very, very little (like one serving of rice). I agree with Maurile that it might be better long term to focus on eating like he was on the maintenance plan, but that's not going to give him satisfying results right away.

How big are your servings of rice?

I wasn't talking about "my servings" of rice so much as what I typically see other places. But I probably should have specified that it's between one and two servings. I typically make 1 cup of uncooked rice for my wife and me. That's two servings apiece by the label, but I don't know many people who just cook 1/2 cup (or God forbid 1/4 cup at a time for solos).

 

[culdeus]

Juice fasting works for some people too. It's hard to think of a diet plan that ISN'T significantly better than the standard American diet. Atkins might be the golden ticket for Oats. It might not.

To use the football analogy. It really doesn't matter if a football team scores more points than the opponent by using stifling defense and controlling time of possession with the running game or does it by a fancy passing attack and an opportunistic ball-hawking defense that bends but doesn't break. Both work, and different approaches will be better for different teams depending on personnel.

As Maurile points out, everybody saying to eat less and move more are right. And every one of us might have different environments that create challenges to that (I fell off the Primal wagon when I changed job and could no longer easily get protein and green veggie lunches without carbs at my old firm's cafeteria). Otis is going to have to factor in what his wife will eat. What's easily available for him at work. What trigger foods are too available to him, and what program can best accommodate what he finds satisfying.

I just have a hard time buying into diets that are by definition temporary. "Eat this stuff for three weeks, then you eat this other stuff." I guess maybe it can work for some people, but I suspect that success rates are low.

I understand that. I don't think Atkins is really all that unique in that aspect. All diets generally have a stricter "corrective" phase and then a looser maintenance phase. And the bigger challenge, in my experience, is always presented by the maintenance phase. Because it's easy to follow a strict diet, and if you're overweight, you're almost certainly getting immediate positive feedback.

Even on "maintenance" Atkins is something like 100 carbs a day. That's very, very little (like one serving of rice). I agree with Maurile that it might be better long term to focus on eating like he was on the maintenance plan, but that's not going to give him satisfying results right away.

How big are your servings of rice?

I wasn't talking about "my servings" of rice so much as what I typically see other places. But I probably should have specified that it's between one and two servings. I typically make 1 cup of uncooked rice for my wife and me. That's two servings apiece by the label, but I don't know many people who just cook 1/2 cup (or God forbid 1/4 cup at a time for solos).

Well, I do. I usually serve 1/4C rice. Maybe just 1x a week, but that's what I do. 1/4C FWIW is the standard serving.

 

[James Daulton]

I tried the low carb thing a few weeks ago. I made it four days with 20 grams or less, but I choose to stop because not only was I feeling pretty bad, I felt like I had no energy/motivation to lift. I made it to the gym and got my workouts in, but I felt weak as a kitten and it really turned me off. Based on Oat's results, if he feels really bad, but comes out the other side, I'll low-carb again but take a week or two off from the weights and perhaps I'll be able to get back at it at full strength thereafter. At this point I'm just trying to lean another 2 - 3% of bodyfat off.

 

[snitwitch]

Real men follow the Drinking Man's Diet

 

[Slapdash]

And was enjoying as I watched you get your ### handed to you.

You and I have different meanings of getting my "### handed to me". Maurile provided evidence that my opnion of the diet was correct, but perhaps for different reasons than I previously thought. I thanked him for the link and for posting as he's one of the folks who's opinion I actually take seriously on nutritional matters on these forums. Culdeus is another.

If that was the highlight of your day, well... I'm happy I could help? I would suggest you try to get out more though.

Maybe he should pick up a hobby like being a dooshbag on a message board for his Monday nights.

 

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And was enjoying as I watched you get your ### handed to you.

You and I have different meanings of getting my "### handed to me". Maurile provided evidence that my opnion of the diet was correct, but perhaps for different reasons than I previously thought. I thanked him for the link and for posting as he's one of the folks who's opinion I actually take seriously on nutritional matters on these forums. Culdeus is another.

If that was the highlight of your day, well... I'm happy I could help? I would suggest you try to get out more though.

Maybe he should pick up a hobby like being a dooshbag on a message board for his Monday nights.

See, now we're getting somewhere.

 

[[icon]]

Real men follow the Drinking Man's Diet

South Beach + Booze Well played sir.

 

[[icon]]

It's the low-carb life for us.... It's the low-carb life for us...

 

[Keerock]

It's the low-carb life for us.... It's the low-carb life for us...

 

[hagmania]

It's the low-carb life for us.... It's the low-carb life for us...

The Cheez-Its are for the grandchildren!

 

[snitwitch]

It's the low-carb life for us.... It's the low-carb life for us...

Not pictured: The 10 lbs of frito-lay products consumed 10 minutes earlier.

ETA: Just saw the cheez-its :(

 

[Otis]

Always a good idea to make drastic dietary and lifestyle changes when your wife just got home from the hospital after giving birth.

Exactly what she said.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I can't think of one drawback to taking in massive amounts of saturated fat over a long period of time.

When I went low-carb back in like '06, I had bloodwork done right before I started and then again 6 months later. Talked to the doc after the first test and he scolded me pretty harshly about my cholesterol levels being so high for a guy my age. And then after 6 months of "massive amounts of saturated fat" I talked to him after the bloodwork came in. "Holy sh## how did you get your cholesterol down so fast?"

I had dropped over 40 lbs and literally every aspect of my bloodwork was significantly improved.

Shhh. Some people in here think that if you eat a BigMac it's the same thing as taking a cheeseburger intravenously.

FTR

I walked 9 miles yesterday morning. It was sunny, 30 degrees and almost no wind, best day in months, so I added another mile on. I had a piece of smoked salmon and a salad (spinach, red peppers, broccoli, carrots, cashews, bleu cheese) with roasted tomato dressing.

ETA

I forgot to include that I had this for breakfast too, which is my normal breakfast along with a handful of almonds.

I walked my normal 8 miles this morning.

winning

 

[glock]

Always a good idea to make drastic dietary and lifestyle changes when your wife just got home from the hospital after giving birth.

Exactly what she said.

I missed the announcement post- where did you slip the news in?? Congrats!

 

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It's the low-carb life for us.... It's the low-carb life for us...

Not pictured: The 10 lbs of frito-lay products consumed 10 minutes earlier.

ETA: Just saw the cheez-its :(

You Called it!