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Otis diet fad of the month thread - Potato mania!!1 (2 Viewers)

I just started using MFP a week ago to track everything, and allotted 2100 calories per day...I haven't gone over at all and I'm usually more than 10% under. :thumbup:
:thumbup:

MFP has worked best for me long term for sure. No silly restrictions on carbs or fat or blue foods or green foods or white foods..... just don't eat like a ####### and you're good to go.
How about if I use it to track my silly restriction of carbs? Is that ok with you?
BLASSSSPHEMERRR!!!

 
I have this on my counter top:

http://imgur.com/TNIMLBr

I didn't buy it for this, just happened to have a box in the house. It looks fantastic. It says "2 net carbs" on the outside, and its made by the same people who make this stupid diet. But on the wrapper it says there are like a million carbs in it.

No idea if I should eat it. But I want to.

I'm also considering a Guiness with the wife this afternoon. 9g well spent imo.
Sugar alcohols and fiber don't count, since your body doesn't process them like regular sugars.

Even with that being said, those should be a vary rare treat, not a regular snack.
FYI... they're also disgusting.
I just took a bite of it, and after 3 days with practically no carbs, it was like angels massaging my mouth and belly.
Get some low carb tortillas/wraps at the grocery store and make burritos at home. Make turkey club wraps to take to work for lunch. :thumbup:

 
I have this on my counter top:http://imgur.com/TNIMLBr

I didn't buy it for this, just happened to have a box in the house. It looks fantastic. It says "2 net carbs" on the outside, and its made by the same people who make this stupid diet. But on the wrapper it says there are like a million carbs in it.

No idea if I should eat it. But I want to.

I'm also considering a Guiness with the wife this afternoon. 9g well spent imo.
Sugar alcohols and fiber don't count, since your body doesn't process them like regular sugars.

Even with that being said, those should be a vary rare treat, not a regular snack.
FYI... they're also disgusting.
I just took a bite of it, and after 3 days with practically no carbs, it was like angels massaging my mouth and belly.
Is this code for crippling diahreeah?

 
I just started using MFP a week ago to track everything, and allotted 2100 calories per day...I haven't gone over at all and I'm usually more than 10% under. :thumbup:
:thumbup:

MFP has worked best for me long term for sure. No silly restrictions on carbs or fat or blue foods or green foods or white foods..... just don't eat like a ####### and you're good to go.
How about if I use it to track my silly restriction of carbs? Is that ok with you?
Whatever works, sir. :thumbup:

 
Cracked like a brittle egg tonight. Was cruising through the day...black coffee, orange, broccoli, grilled pork, grilled steak (small portions all), mixed in some swiss cheese when I got home, NO BEERS!, ran with Hazel through our hilly neighborhood in the jogging stroller, felt like pushing a bobsled uphill, sweating like a hoooor.....

My wife is sick so I made dinner for Hazel, then the boys. I was not going to eat, protein rich diet left me no appetite. But then I started making the boys pork nachos with black beans and lots and lots of cheese. They baked at 350 and made the house smell like heaven. I served them up fast, big portions to avoid temptation and then IT happened. I tried a bite. ZOMG!! Before I could gain control I devoured 4-5 large bites of piping hot cheesy goodness, with delicious pork, beans and carb rich chips.

Oh well. Fast tomorrow. Do better.

 
I have this on my counter top:

http://imgur.com/TNIMLBr

I didn't buy it for this, just happened to have a box in the house. It looks fantastic. It says "2 net carbs" on the outside, and its made by the same people who make this stupid diet. But on the wrapper it says there are like a million carbs in it.

No idea if I should eat it. But I want to.

I'm also considering a Guiness with the wife this afternoon. 9g well spent imo.
Sugar alcohols and fiber don't count, since your body doesn't process them like regular sugars.Even with that being said, those should be a vary rare treat, not a regular snack.
FYI... they're also disgusting.
I just took a bite of it, and after 3 days with practically no carbs, it was like angels massaging my mouth and belly.
Get some low carb tortillas/wraps at the grocery store and make burritos at home. Make turkey club wraps to take to work for lunch. :thumbup:
Wouldn't waste your carbs on tortillas even if low carb...lettuce wraps are the hawk move and taste great

 
Cracked like a brittle egg tonight. Was cruising through the day...black coffee, orange, broccoli, grilled pork, grilled steak (small portions all), mixed in some swiss cheese when I got home, NO BEERS!, ran with Hazel through our hilly neighborhood in the jogging stroller, felt like pushing a bobsled uphill, sweating like a hoooor.....

My wife is sick so I made dinner for Hazel, then the boys. I was not going to eat, protein rich diet left me no appetite. But then I started making the boys pork nachos with black beans and lots and lots of cheese. They baked at 350 and made the house smell like heaven. I served them up fast, big portions to avoid temptation and then IT happened. I tried a bite. ZOMG!! Before I could gain control I devoured 4-5 large bites of piping hot cheesy goodness, with delicious pork, beans and carb rich chips.

Oh well. Fast tomorrow. Do better.
Me eat ALL the pork nachos with black beans and lots and lots of cheese?

 
Atkins App

I haven't used it yet... I'm a MFP zealot, but I'll poke around and see if there is anything worthwhile.
There are a few others on android in addition to this one. They all just seem to be informational. Not bad though. Just learned that those soy chips are a great snack during the induction phase, may get some. (Also learned I ideally shouldn't be having regular coffee. Of well, I ain't giving that up)

 
Atkins App

I haven't used it yet... I'm a MFP zealot, but I'll poke around and see if there is anything worthwhile.
There are a few others on android in addition to this one. They all just seem to be informational. Not bad though. Just learned that those soy chips are a great snack during the induction phase, may get some. (Also learned I ideally shouldn't be having regular coffee. Of well, I ain't giving that up)
Where'd you get that from? The Atkins FAQ just says to use cream or half and half instead of milk and not to use sugar. It says caffeine is fine.

 
On any diet, I would recommend staying away from things like processed "soy crisps". Real food is better than processed food. If you want something crunchy, there's always that old Atkins stand-by of pork rinds.

 
Atkins App

I haven't used it yet... I'm a MFP zealot, but I'll poke around and see if there is anything worthwhile.
There are a few others on android in addition to this one. They all just seem to be informational. Not bad though. Just learned that those soy chips are a great snack during the induction phase, may get some. (Also learned I ideally shouldn't be having regular coffee. Of well, I ain't giving that up)
Where'd you get that from? The Atkins FAQ just says to use cream or half and half instead of milk and not to use sugar. It says caffeine is fine.
It was in the app I downloaded, on the induction phase, said to avoid caffeine. It also said the daily limit is 40g, not 20. (I'll stick with 20 for now)

 
On any diet, I would recommend staying away from things like processed "soy crisps". Real food is better than processed food. If you want something crunchy, there's always that old Atkins stand-by of pork rinds.
I've never had pork rinds. Are they good?

Totally understand its not ideal, but if things like the soy crisps help keep me on the mark, it's a good trade off.

 
Otis said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
On any diet, I would recommend staying away from things like processed "soy crisps". Real food is better than processed food. If you want something crunchy, there's always that old Atkins stand-by of pork rinds.
I've never had pork rinds. Are they good?

Totally understand its not ideal, but if things like the soy crisps help keep me on the mark, it's a good trade off.
The health benefits of losing weight probably trump the health benefits of eating healthier food especially when the healthier choice is pork rinds. I wouldn't. For me the rinds were helpful in extreme low carb/ketogenic phases, but they were certainly an acquired taste. I dipped them in homemade guacamole. That was pretty good.

 
Keerock said:
Chaka said:
Keerock said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
On a more nerdy level, for people who are obese as opposed to simply overweight, there's another pretty big advantage to somewhat radical changes in diets. Obese people have leptin resistance, and getting that under control makes eating in moderation much, much easier.
:nerd: Sadly, according to the BMI chart, I'm either obese or way too short.
Have you considered growing upwards?
I've tried. My penis is the only part of me capable of this growth.
LOL at "growth".

 
FWIW... I'm down 9 lbs after 7 days :thumbup:
Keep in mind your body has probably flushed nearly a gallon of water.

Weight is a particularly poor measure of diet success in the early phases. You might actually find that your % of body fat has risen while losing the initial water weight while your body adjusts to the diet. It is unfortunate that there are very few, if any, accurate body fat % scales on the market. Most have a margin of error of 5% or more which is damn near useless.

 
FWIW... I'm down 9 lbs after 7 days :thumbup:
Keep in mind your body has probably flushed nearly a gallon of water.

Weight is a particularly poor measure of diet success in the early phases. You might actually find that your % of body fat has risen while losing the initial water weight while your body adjusts to the diet. It is unfortunate that there are very few, if any, accurate body fat % scales on the market. Most have a margin of error of 5% or more which is damn near useless.
Yeah... I know. But it's nice to see. I see a bit of a belly reduction in the mirror, too.

My scale measures body fat %, albeit inaccurate, it has been fairly stable for the week (27-29% :bag: )

 
FWIW... I'm down 9 lbs after 7 days :thumbup:
Keep in mind your body has probably flushed nearly a gallon of water.

Weight is a particularly poor measure of diet success in the early phases. You might actually find that your % of body fat has risen while losing the initial water weight while your body adjusts to the diet. It is unfortunate that there are very few, if any, accurate body fat % scales on the market. Most have a margin of error of 5% or more which is damn near useless.
Yeah... I know. But it's nice to see. I see a bit of a belly reduction in the mirror, too.

My scale measures body fat %, albeit inaccurate, it has been fairly stable for the week (27-29% :bag: )
For best results stand on a damp towel prior to getting on a BF% scale. Do it after you take a leak in the AM when you wake up.

It's best to test it everyday to get a trend which is why I wouldn't do it. Daily weigh ins can be demotivational.

 
FWIW... I'm down 9 lbs after 7 days :thumbup:
Keep in mind your body has probably flushed nearly a gallon of water.
Yep. That first 5-10lbs is awesome, but mostly a drop in water weight with atkins-type programs. Nothing wrong with it...great motivational bump. But that weight comes back as quick as it left. That said... damn nice start, Kee. Stoked for ya!

 
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FWIW... I'm down 9 lbs after 7 days :thumbup:
Keep in mind your body has probably flushed nearly a gallon of water.

Weight is a particularly poor measure of diet success in the early phases. You might actually find that your % of body fat has risen while losing the initial water weight while your body adjusts to the diet. It is unfortunate that there are very few, if any, accurate body fat % scales on the market. Most have a margin of error of 5% or more which is damn near useless.
Yeah... I know. But it's nice to see. I see a bit of a belly reduction in the mirror, too.

My scale measures body fat %, albeit inaccurate, it has been fairly stable for the week (27-29% :bag: )
For best results stand on a damp towel prior to getting on a BF% scale. Do it after you take a leak in the AM when you wake up.

It's best to test it everyday to get a trend which is why I wouldn't do it. Daily weigh ins can be demotivational.
I'm weird about the daily weigh ins. I'm obsessive about them. For some reason it really keeps me in line.

 
FWIW... I'm down 9 lbs after 7 days :thumbup:
Keep in mind your body has probably flushed nearly a gallon of water.

Weight is a particularly poor measure of diet success in the early phases. You might actually find that your % of body fat has risen while losing the initial water weight while your body adjusts to the diet. It is unfortunate that there are very few, if any, accurate body fat % scales on the market. Most have a margin of error of 5% or more which is damn near useless.
Yeah... I know. But it's nice to see. I see a bit of a belly reduction in the mirror, too.

My scale measures body fat %, albeit inaccurate, it has been fairly stable for the week (27-29% :bag: )
For best results stand on a damp towel prior to getting on a BF% scale. Do it after you take a leak in the AM when you wake up.

It's best to test it everyday to get a trend which is why I wouldn't do it. Daily weigh ins can be demotivational.
I'm weird about the daily weigh ins. I'm obsessive about them. For some reason it really keeps me in line.
Me too... doesn't help that I'm borderline OCD

 
Breakfast was wonderful. Egg whites and American cheese, then cooked up a lean beef burger and chopped it up and threw it in. Delicious.

Cravings not killing me yet, halfway through day 4. Went food shopping with the little one and even bought her some cookies and the like knowing I can't touch them. I'm getting a little tired of the food choices, maybe tonight I can convince my wife to whip up a tasty salmon dish or something.

 
Following this thread gives me the same feeling as rubber necking a huge pile up on the interstate.

 
Breakfast was wonderful. Egg whites and American cheese, then cooked up a lean beef burger and chopped it up and threw it in. Delicious.

Cravings not killing me yet, halfway through day 4. Went food shopping with the little one and even bought her some cookies and the like knowing I can't touch them. I'm getting a little tired of the food choices, maybe tonight I can convince my wife to whip up a tasty salmon dish or something.
:thumbup:

I voted that ya would make it through induction... I believe in Otis.

 
FWIW... I'm down 9 lbs after 7 days :thumbup:
Just doing the Atkins or are you working out some too? Good job either way.
Atkins plus the 7 minute workout.
just read about this... you using an app?
I'm a zealous MFP user...
MFP is the greatest thing for weight loss I have ever found. I have only used it for a few weeks, but after watching my numbers daily I have drastically changed what crap I put into my body.

 
As a side note, I tracked down some PB2( powdered peanut butter) . I will be trying it after my workout and report back.

 
Addressing the naysayers. This article should quiet them. They're wrong to attack low carb. If the beef is long term weight management, that applies to every type of diet. In the late 50s a heavily cited study concluded 95% of all dieters gain back the weight. This was long before Dr. Atkins came along. The news has barely been more encouraging over the past half century, but there's some research with up to 20% maintaining significant results. How the weight was lost wasn't significant to who maintained the loss. Long-term weight management studies are rare.

Afaik, only two long have been published in the half decade or so since I've cared. Here's one, a four year follow up. While the results may not be exciting, the low carb dieters did sustain the most successful long term weight loss. Their health markers were improved as much as the balanced dieters and better than the low fat dieters. The other study (out of England, but I can't find it this morning) had almost identical results, again the low carb group had the most long term success. The results are not significant beyond noting low carb dieters do not face greater long term challenges or health risks.

Back to anecdotes. All you have to do is peruse the many giant diet forums online to find tons of low carb success stories. It's probable there's more low carb success than other methods because of popularity. There's no reason to bag on someone going this route. As long as the goal isn't life long ketosis and the person isn't becoming a carbo-phobic dolt, the trolling is pretty ######. Someone's trying to improve. For me, low carb is key in maintaining a 100 pound loss for several years. When my weight creeps near 210, I go ketogenic for a couple weeks. Having experience and comfort with massive food elimination (carbs) has taught me discipline. I think that's an advantage for low carbers long term. We have this keto tool and know how to use it, much like professional fighters use it to make weight. Of course, I drink beer, eat pizza, had pie this week, and apples, bananas and potatoes. Still 197 this morning.

Weight loss is easier for many with carb restriction. If my first link didn't convince you, you're fooling yourself. Weight maintenance is about calorie restriction regardless of macros and regardless of how the weight was lost.

I could easily start cherry picking experts and bag on calorie counting (MFP). It didn't work for me. I'm just not the type to plug everything into some calculator. It felt ocd. I'm not that organized. I think I have an internal counter from being fat and fighting it for so long before finally succeeding. But MFP works for a lot of people, so that makes it awesome, imo. All weight loss attempts experience more failure than success, so they're all easy to criticize.

 
Addressing the naysayers. This article should quiet them. They're wrong to attack low carb. If the beef is long term weight management, that applies to every type of diet. In the late 50s a heavily cited study concluded 95% of all dieters gain back the weight. This was long before Dr. Atkins came along. The news has barely been more encouraging over the past half century, but there's some research with up to 20% maintaining significant results. How the weight was lost wasn't significant to who maintained the loss. Long-term weight management studies are rare.

Afaik, only two long have been published in the half decade or so since I've cared. Here's one, a four year follow up. While the results may not be exciting, the low carb dieters did sustain the most successful long term weight loss. Their health markers were improved as much as the balanced dieters and better than the low fat dieters. The other study (out of England, but I can't find it this morning) had almost identical results, again the low carb group had the most long term success. The results are not significant beyond noting low carb dieters do not face greater long term challenges or health risks.

Back to anecdotes. All you have to do is peruse the many giant diet forums online to find tons of low carb success stories. It's probable there's more low carb success than other methods because of popularity. There's no reason to bag on someone going this route. As long as the goal isn't life long ketosis and the person isn't becoming a carbo-phobic dolt, the trolling is pretty ######. Someone's trying to improve. For me, low carb is key in maintaining a 100 pound loss for several years. When my weight creeps near 210, I go ketogenic for a couple weeks. Having experience and comfort with massive food elimination (carbs) has taught me discipline. I think that's an advantage for low carbers long term. We have this keto tool and know how to use it, much like professional fighters use it to make weight. Of course, I drink beer, eat pizza, had pie this week, and apples, bananas and potatoes. Still 197 this morning.

Weight loss is easier for many with carb restriction. If my first link didn't convince you, you're fooling yourself. Weight maintenance is about calorie restriction regardless of macros and regardless of how the weight was lost.

I could easily start cherry picking experts and bag on calorie counting (MFP). It didn't work for me. I'm just not the type to plug everything into some calculator. It felt ocd. I'm not that organized. I think I have an internal counter from being fat and fighting it for so long before finally succeeding. But MFP works for a lot of people, so that makes it awesome, imo. All weight loss attempts experience more failure than success, so they're all easy to criticize.
Addressing the naysayers. This article should quiet them. They're wrong to attack low carb. If the beef is long term weight management, that applies to every type of diet. In the late 50s a heavily cited study concluded 95% of all dieters gain back the weight. This was long before Dr. Atkins came along. The news has barely been more encouraging over the past half century, but there's some research with up to 20% maintaining significant results. How the weight was lost wasn't significant to who maintained the loss. Long-term weight management studies are rare.

Afaik, only two long have been published in the half decade or so since I've cared. Here's one, a four year follow up. While the results may not be exciting, the low carb dieters did sustain the most successful long term weight loss. Their health markers were improved as much as the balanced dieters and better than the low fat dieters. The other study (out of England, but I can't find it this morning) had almost identical results, again the low carb group had the most long term success. The results are not significant beyond noting low carb dieters do not face greater long term challenges or health risks.

Back to anecdotes. All you have to do is peruse the many giant diet forums online to find tons of low carb success stories. It's probable there's more low carb success than other methods because of popularity. There's no reason to bag on someone going this route. As long as the goal isn't life long ketosis and the person isn't becoming a carbo-phobic dolt, the trolling is pretty ######. Someone's trying to improve. For me, low carb is key in maintaining a 100 pound loss for several years. When my weight creeps near 210, I go ketogenic for a couple weeks. Having experience and comfort with massive food elimination (carbs) has taught me discipline. I think that's an advantage for low carbers long term. We have this keto tool and know how to use it, much like professional fighters use it to make weight. Of course, I drink beer, eat pizza, had pie this week, and apples, bananas and potatoes. Still 197 this morning.

Weight loss is easier for many with carb restriction. If my first link didn't convince you, you're fooling yourself. Weight maintenance is about calorie restriction regardless of macros and regardless of how the weight was lost.

I could easily start cherry picking experts and bag on calorie counting (MFP). It didn't work for me. I'm just not the type to plug everything into some calculator. It felt ocd. I'm not that organized. I think I have an internal counter from being fat and fighting it for so long before finally succeeding. But MFP works for a lot of people, so that makes it awesome, imo. All weight loss attempts experience more failure than success, so they're all easy to criticize.
Works for weight loss but not good for atheletic performance.

 
I think this diet has potential.
:lol: I could do that. Today is my 52nd birthday. Everyone who knows me well enough to buy me a gift has done something pizza related. This was planned. I got frozen dough from NYC. I got a gift certificate for one of my favorite places in LA. I got a book on the history of pizza. I got a 1" thick and 18x18" square industrial pizza stone (my old one broke over the holidays). I got sourdough starter from Naples. I got a case of organic italian deli chubs.

Also, reading was instrumental in keeping me motivated. Support Maurile's Girlfriend.

 
Also, reading was instrumental in keeping me motivated. Support Maurile's Girlfriend.
That's a terrific book. I was really enjoying it until, about two-thirds of the way through, it ended. (The last third is all end notes, which I didn't read.) Seriously, though, there's lots of really interesting stuff in that book. The first two-thirds, anyway.

 
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By the way, while I still love Denise, my new crush is Darya Pino Rose. Her book is fantastic. She gets all the nutritional science right, as far as I can tell, but focuses more on topics like the psychology of habit changes. I often felt while reading it that it would be perfect for a sizable contingent of the FFA because it's basically diet by food snobbery. Food prepared from fresh, whole ingredients is not only healthier, but it tastes better, and it's what all the cool kids are eating. Processed food? Gauche!

 
By the way, while I still love Denise, my new crush is Darya Pino Rose. Her book is fantastic. She gets all the nutritional science right, as far as I can tell, but focuses more on topics like the psychology of habit changes. I often felt while reading it that it would be perfect for a sizable contingent of the FFA because it's basically diet by food snobbery. Food prepared from fresh, whole ingredients is not only healthier, but it tastes better, and it's what all the cool kids are eating. Processed food? Gauche!
Put it on the Kindle, thanks. Guyenet's post from yesterday is on topic. It's tough with a teen, but I'm pretty close, and at least the snacks are from Trader's and snobbish.

 

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