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overvalued/bust players for 2006 (1 Viewer)
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einstein2u
Footballguy
over:
ronnie brown
TO
Under:
watson
terry gleen
ronnie brown
TO
Under:
watson
terry gleen
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Overvalued:
Chad Johnson
Randy Moss
Eli Manning
Santana Moss
Ben Roethlisberger
Willie Parker
Antonio Gates
Undervalued:
Chester Taylor
Torry Holt
Jake Delhomme
Rudi Johnson
Drew Bledsoe
Marion Barber
Andre Johnson
Jon Kitna
Roy Williams
Donald Driver
Dominic Rhodes
Joe Horn
Reggie Brown
Arnaz Battle
Antonio Bryant
Chad Johnson
Randy Moss
Eli Manning
Santana Moss
Ben Roethlisberger
Willie Parker
Antonio Gates
Undervalued:
Chester Taylor
Torry Holt
Jake Delhomme
Rudi Johnson
Drew Bledsoe
Marion Barber
Andre Johnson
Jon Kitna
Roy Williams
Donald Driver
Dominic Rhodes
Joe Horn
Reggie Brown
Arnaz Battle
Antonio Bryant
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fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Overvalued.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Depends on where you think he'll actually be "valued". I think most will be down on him based on his bust of a year last year. I expect him to rebound.
fsufan
Footballguy
I think Johnson will be undervalue this year becuase he burned alot of FF players last year. Should be a good value pick in redrafts
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Over
Fitzgerald-Will take a hit this year...I've seen him ranked as high as WR1.
J. Jones- The addition of TO and a shift to the 2 TE set hurts JJ.
M. Barber- Many people think it's RBBC in Dallas...it's not. People are banking on injuries.
R. Moss- I just don't see it anymore.
Gates- I predict a down year under Rivers. There are more TE's to choose from right now. The TE position in general is over rated this year.
Clinton Portis-I'm not predicting injury here, just concerned with the number of carries and a possible shift in the Redskins game plan. More of an aerial attack??? I am still on the fence with this one.
Under
Terry Glenn- Look out. He will get single coverage all day.
Tiki Barber- Could challenge for top 2 or 3 RB. Anyone geting him at 5-7 should do a backflip.
Josh McCown-Detroit is intriguing.
Jamal Lewis-Why the TOTAL hate.
Just my 0.02
Fitzgerald-Will take a hit this year...I've seen him ranked as high as WR1.
J. Jones- The addition of TO and a shift to the 2 TE set hurts JJ.
M. Barber- Many people think it's RBBC in Dallas...it's not. People are banking on injuries.
R. Moss- I just don't see it anymore.
Gates- I predict a down year under Rivers. There are more TE's to choose from right now. The TE position in general is over rated this year.
Clinton Portis-I'm not predicting injury here, just concerned with the number of carries and a possible shift in the Redskins game plan. More of an aerial attack??? I am still on the fence with this one.
Under
Terry Glenn- Look out. He will get single coverage all day.
Tiki Barber- Could challenge for top 2 or 3 RB. Anyone geting him at 5-7 should do a backflip.
Josh McCown-Detroit is intriguing.
Jamal Lewis-Why the TOTAL hate.
Just my 0.02
doomsdaydoc
Footballguy
Chad Johnson will likely not produce as much this season because of the QB situation. This could be the same for Chambers if Culpepper is not ready to start the season.
Captain Spaulding
Footballguy
Overvalued: Fitzgerald, CJ, Steve Smith
Undervalued: Boldin, Hines Ward, Eddie Kennison, Derrick Mason, Joe Horn, Wilford, Mushin M. Bryant Johnson
Undervalued: Boldin, Hines Ward, Eddie Kennison, Derrick Mason, Joe Horn, Wilford, Mushin M. Bryant Johnson
humans_being
Footballguy
FBG have him ranked 51st. Two spots ahead of Santonio Holmes and Chad Jackson.
Undervalued doesn't even scratch the surface.
wannabee
Footballguy
The three guys I am acquiring in every dynasty league I can (on the cheap) are Marion Barber, Donald Driver and TJ Housh.
MB3- not predicting RBBC/injury. I watched him play quite a bit last year. He will surprise many this year when Jones goes down and in the subsequent years.
Donald Driver - Favre loves him. He has had 84 and 86 catches the last two years. Walker is no longer in GB and there are few other options for Favre to throw to. Very underrated as long as Favre is in GB.
TJ Houshmanzadeh - Has had 70+ catches each of the last two years and seems to be coming into his own.
MB3- not predicting RBBC/injury. I watched him play quite a bit last year. He will surprise many this year when Jones goes down and in the subsequent years.
Donald Driver - Favre loves him. He has had 84 and 86 catches the last two years. Walker is no longer in GB and there are few other options for Favre to throw to. Very underrated as long as Favre is in GB.
TJ Houshmanzadeh - Has had 70+ catches each of the last two years and seems to be coming into his own.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Looking at this objectively, I think Chet is going to struggle with the defenses he faces early. And I have him as a keeper option too. Not thrilled with the prospect of the AFC North in there.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Fixed. TIA.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Umm since when does Chambers need an NFL caliber QB to put up his numbers?
I've got "The Soldier" as extremely undervalued this year. Having a lot to prove + incentive laden contract = good production. Yes Frye is the QB, but considering how cheap he will be, it won't be hard for him to out-perform his draft slot. I've got him at 6 in my TE rankings..
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
For the numbers I see him put up year in and out, he always seems ranked too low to me. He gets put behind Moss and Harrison quite often.This year, I think the WR rankings should be:
1. Steve Smith
2. Torry Holt
3. Boldin/Fitz (take your pick)
Nobody ever seems to rank Holt high enough. That's all I'm saying.
nygiants56
Footballguy
overvalued:Lamont Jordan - unless you'rein a PPR league, this guy is below average..
3.8 per carry and barely 1000 yards is journeyman-like..
coached by the best offensive minded coach when it comes to RB's, Norv Turner..
he squeezed Jordan for all he's worth.new coaching staff, many of whom have been out of football for a decade now..
reminds me of errict wrett: great hands, painfully slow..
Steven Jackson - HC scott linehan will once again be the scourge of fantasy footballers everywhere, as he installs a RBBC system in St Louis..
Chester Taylor - too many rb's to fight with for the starting job..won't see more than 200-220 carries..just too many other rbs to play as 3rd down backs, etc..
Marion Barber - seems as though he's being annointed as the best rb in the NFL by some people in here..jeez..he's a 2nd stringer..JJ is the #1 guy, and will be all year if he doesn't get hurt,like any other NFL player, injuries happen..
Matt Hasselbeck - 24 tds and 9 int's?? boring. thats slightly better than Delhomme's #'s,and you can get Delhomme 3-4 rounds later.
Favre - he'll always go high as people hope he's going to be the Favre of the mid-90's for one last swan song season..expect another 15-20 ints...
Brian Westbrook - a WR that occasionally runs the ball, westy catches many passes but if you're not in a ppr league, he's USELESS..will go WAY too high for a guy who barely runs for 600 yards per year..
<Denver's rbs> - Shanny seems to have quietly, secretly, switched over to RBBC..saw it happen last year, it looks like it could continue with Dayne/Bell..
Drew Bledsoe - will go high with JJ back & healthy, and T.O onboard...but Bledsoe chokes in big games, starts hot, and finishes cold, and defenses know he gets rattled easily.if that line suffers an injury or two like last year, Bledsoe will get booed in Big D, and the T.O. bickering begins..it'll fall like a house of cards, once that begins..
Phil Rivers - will struggle mightily as it's his first year starting in the NFL.growing pains for sure..
Peyton Manning - people still think he's going to record 40+ tds, but his numbers last year were surprisingly similar to Tom Brady's, and you can get Brady 2-3 rounds later..Manning is still the best fantasy QB, but the gap has closed big time..
not a #1 overall pick like he was last year, IMO..
deuece MacAllister - bum knee and reggie bush means deuece is going to have to fight for playing time..
Undervalued:
Droughns - 1232 yards on 309 carries with a rookie QB and/or Dilfer , NO o-line help whatsoever, no wr's, no te, nothing around him as a supporting cast..averaged 4.0 per carry along the way..now the browns have a revamped line and K2 back, J. jurevicious, edwards, et al..Suggs and/or Green will likely be released..Droughns is the clear cut #1 guy in cleveland for 2006..not hard to imagine 1400 yards and 8-10 tds.....
LenDale White - low draft selection compared to where he thought he'd go ( 1st round), could motivate him to new heights..Chris brown and Travis henry are bums..neither can hold down the starting job in Tenn with White in town..Henry could be cut on june 1, and Brown is due to blow out a calf muscle any day now...
Tenn might just want to get VY and White in from day one, to learn as they go, so that next year and beyond,the titans will be a competitive team...
Ben Troupe - quietly put together a solid 2005 season..should easily build on that..
Chris Cooley - OC Al Saunders loves to design plays for the TE..
Maroney - Dillon is done..put a fork in him..old and slow and broken down..too many miles..time to call it a career..he looks like Eddie George did in his final season in Dallas..
Witten - stats were down in 2005 b/c he had to stay in and block with all the injuries to the O-line..
Josh McCown - Detroit passed on Leinart, when they could have used a QB...it shows the confidence they have in McCown as the guy they'll groom as the QB of the future in Detroit.. Martz must like what he sees in him.
Cedric Benson - they don't pay him all that $$ after burning a very high pick on him last year to have him sit on the bench..tj talking like he wants out of Chicago via trade..he might get his wish..
Even with the RBBC system, Mike Anderson was still a top 10 back in most leagues. Who cares if it's a commitee, if your still getting that kind of production. If anything Den. RB's are undervalued because of many people thinking the same way. Even Dodds in his rough list had both Bell and Dayne towards the bottom of his list, behind many mediocre running backs..
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
This is flat out wrong.Not coincidentally, it's about the same thing that people said last year.
Mewelde Moore cannot stay healthy and is nothing more than a 3rd down back/kick returner. It'll be interesting what Ciatric Fason can bring, but other than that, the RBs are mediocre at best.
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fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Rebound to what? Not only was he a complete bust last year, but he hasn't finished as a Top 20 WR ever. You honestly think Johnson will be drafted low enough (in the 25th-30th WR range) so that he is considered undervalued?Depends on where you think he'll actually be "valued". I think most will be down on him based on his bust of a year last year. I expect him to rebound.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think he'll be drafted at 20+ and finish somewhere around 10-15.With a real #2 on the other side and an apparently improved offensive line, I expect much better numbers from the entire Texans offense.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
And this is exactly why I think he is OVERvalued. People think that A. Johnson have always thought he will be significantly better than the year before, but it hasnt happened yet.People haven't learned their lesson yet. Not only will Andre Johnson be drafted in the 15-20 range in most drafts because people are always high on him, but he will then disappoint and finish where he always has...no better than 20th.
I just disagree on A. Johnson being UNDERvalued because...
1) He will still be drafted too high.
2) He will not live up to people's projections of 10-15 WR range yet again.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Not by Dodds. I bet a lot of people have him ranked higher, though.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
15-20.Although I really haven't looked that closely.
The writing is on the wall.-Rumors JJ was being offered for a 2nd or 3rd round pick draft day.-Cowboys brought in a number of RBs for interviews (when you can only bring in 30 guys, you don't waste them on positions you don't need).-Parcells said he likes JJ, just doesn't think he can stay healthy for an entire season.-JJ couldn't even stay healthy in college.-Last year final 9 games, they pretty much split carries (60/40).-Barber was in the game in the RZ far more then JJ.-JJ didn't get 100 yards until week 16.I wouldn't be surprised if Barber is the starter day 1. If JJ gets banged up AT ALL preseason, Parcells is going to name Barber the starter and be done with it. So we have a rookie RB, who in the last half of the season pretty much split time with JJ. Barber also scored as many TDs as JJ. This is hardly "hoping for an injury". JJ owners are hoping Parcells sticks with a guy he doesn't believe in.
cstu
Footballguy
He went 5.10 and 7.01 in our initial dynasty league. Seems like he's a little over-valued if anything.
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I'd go as high as top 8, which I could see others saying is overvaluing him.
