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Goat Herders
Footballguy
Well, the Kyle Boller Experiment just took a turn towards the sky....HERD
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
If i was a TO owner in a dynasty league i dont know if i would be too happy to hear this 
Jason Wood
Zoo York
JAA, I would say "I told you so" but since the Birds appeared to be serious about acquiring him, you get a pass.
buck naked
Footballguy
Just wait until Boller misses him with a few passes. Mt. Owens erupts now on the East coast!
vinwinephans
Footballguy
Just confirmed on Philly radio.Traded for a draft pick.Can not wait to see what they pay him.
Arm Chair Express
Footballguy
Here's the article.
49ers trade T.O. to Ravens for 2nd-round pick
March 4, 2004
By Jay Glazer
SportsLine.com Senior Writer
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Terrell Owens has been traded to the Baltimore Ravens, SportsLine.com has learned.
According to sources close to the situation, Owens was traded for the 51st pick in the draft, the Ravens second-rounder. It was the highest selection that Baltimore owned.
It is unclear if Owens has worked out a new contract with Baltimore but it is assumed in league circles that he is looking for a deal that would pay him a signing bonus a little lower than $20 million.
Owens was scheduled to become a free agent but after a little-know clause took effect, he lost his eligibility to join the open market. The 49ers were also talking with the Eagles and Jets about a deal.
49ers trade T.O. to Ravens for 2nd-round pick
March 4, 2004
By Jay Glazer
SportsLine.com Senior Writer
Tell Jay your opinion!
Terrell Owens has been traded to the Baltimore Ravens, SportsLine.com has learned.
According to sources close to the situation, Owens was traded for the 51st pick in the draft, the Ravens second-rounder. It was the highest selection that Baltimore owned.
It is unclear if Owens has worked out a new contract with Baltimore but it is assumed in league circles that he is looking for a deal that would pay him a signing bonus a little lower than $20 million.
Owens was scheduled to become a free agent but after a little-know clause took effect, he lost his eligibility to join the open market. The 49ers were also talking with the Eagles and Jets about a deal.
I think the 9ers are doing the right thing. They got a good young little team over there, cut the deadwood and start fresh with the offense. Their cap situation is starting to look a lot better, but I would still like to see Hearst moved out. Its just a fact that a back getting paid that much isnt going to sit on the bench. Barlow should be the focus of this offense and unfortunately Hearst being around isnt conducive to that. Plus they could save a few more bucks.
Joe Smifff
Footballguy
LMAOhowever....this sounds like a steal for the ravens. Hey Wood,any chance they turnaround and trade TO to someone else for a higher second round pick or better? sort of an arbitrage/leaning on the order type deal on the part of the Ravens?Hmm..... Dolphins trade a sewcond rounder for AJ Feeley.Ravens trade a second rounder for Terrell Owens.Whats wrong with this picutre?
buck naked
Footballguy
Hello, McFly!Hearst was cut.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
What's wrong is that the Ravens should have gotten him for NO picks if his imbecile agent had been paying attention.Hmm..... Dolphins trade a sewcond rounder for AJ Feeley.Ravens trade a second rounder for Terrell Owens.Whats wrong with this picutre?
mchaps55
Footballguy
Its called money, T. Owens would easily cost a 1st rounder, but with the money he wants and im sure a new contract no one will give up a first rounder for him. Do I think dolphins give up to high a pick yes, but its all about money in owens case and the fact that he wants the contract reshaped
Joe Smifff
Footballguy
yeah...I would rather cough up 20 million in signing bonus...than a second rounder.
Goat Herders
Footballguy
1. Boller was a rookie facing rookie problems with a great RB and a great TE, but very little deep threat.2. Jim Fassell was hired in the offseason because uber-genius Billick said it was time to admit he wasn't seeing the offensive develpment he was hoping for.I think Boller has a bright upside, and I'd certainly prefer him over Joey Harrington and now, with TO on board, David Carr.HERD
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I don't think something like that is very easy to pull off. TO has been adamant about wanting a new deal, and the Eagles reportedly backed away from the bargaining table when TO's agent said Owens wanted Randy Moss bonus money and a long term deal to facilitate the transaction. I cannot see the Ravens giving up a 2nd rounder for the chance to HOPE to get another 2nd rounder; count on them having a deal in principal in place for an extension of TO's contract.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
As a Rattay and Owens owner, I think I just took a hit :(
Joe Smifff
Footballguy
okay...well...let me ask you this.if you are the ravens..why dont you tell Owens to stick it and force him to honor his contract or sit out.I think I would rather lose a second rounder and make him make that decision..instead of coughing up huge dough in signing bonuses for this cat.am i off base?
SuperGreen
Footballguy
well they're gonna cough up both now...unless you think owens is gonna play the final three years of his contract out in good faith...yeah...I would rather cough up 20 million in signing bonus...than a second rounder.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
Not sure what your point is. I have no illusions that the Ravens won't still be ponying up the $20 mil, even after giving up the pick. TO is still a greedy ******* with an overinflated ego and will certainly attempt to cash in (threatening a hold out, etc.) despite his agent's screw up. I assume the deal is already in place (at least in principle).yeah...
I would rather cough up 20 million in signing bonus...than a second rounder.
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SuperGreen
Footballguy
you are in neverland skipping around with jacko and bubbles the chimp if you think that is the way things will go.no way did baltimore trade for him without knowing the looming $$$ demands coming their way.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Fucla, er I mean Tristan,Your point works in theory, but the reality of the situation is in a league with the cap constraints of the NFL, GMs aren't in the position to take gambles with 2nd round picks for the hope that a player will see the light and play out his contract. Not only that, but you're talking about a contract that, in Owens' eyes, is invalid and the fault of the league and the Niners.
EastBayFunk
Footballguy
As a Niner fan I'm happy. It would have been nice to get a first rounder, but a second is almost as valuable and is certainly a lot better than the nothing I expected a week ago.
pricklypete
Footballguy
Do TO's #'s decline with Boller throwing the ball?I think so.
Goat Herders
Footballguy
Do Boller's #s increase with Owens catching the ball?I think so.HERD
Koya
Footballguy
As a raised Giants fan with deep Baltimore roots , I am a VERY happy camper. First, he aint on the Eagles! That WR core still is one of the worst in the league.Second, if there is one team that might be able to check TO's antics, it may be the Ravens. Billick isnt going to take any s**t, and you can only imagine what Ray Ray will do if TO starts to cause havoc. They have a young QB that has a gun for an arm and assuming J. Lewis beats his rap, the Ravens have to be considered one of the AFC favorites going into next year.
pricklypete
Footballguy
HERDI agree that Bollers #'s rise, but at the same time TO's will fall.
Funky Boss
Footballguy
Now it is "108 User(s) are reading this topic (40 Guests and 4 Anonymous Users)"Popular topic to be sure. I think Bal is the least interesting place TO could have ended up given the uncertainty at QB. I would have rather seen him in Philly.80 User(s) are reading this topic (27 Guests and 2 Anonymous Users)
Joe Smifff
Footballguy
if you dont play out your contract in good faith...the team can suspend him without pay so forth.he signed the contract...live with it.these athletes love playing hardball until the ball gets smacked back into their face.well they're gonna cough up both now...unless you think owens is gonna play the final three years of his contract out in good faith...
Goat Herders
Footballguy
Agreed. But since I don't own Owens, and DO own Boller in a dynasty league, I'm not too worried about TO's production as long as its better then Travis Taylor.
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BlueOnion
Footballguy
Long time Viking fan and I was never a big Billick fan. Heck, I still consider him the offensive genius who innovated the 'prevent offense'. But what Billick does really well is he draws out a blue print before the season starts and says 'you are going to get x number of balls thrown your way and you are going to get y number of balls thrown your way, you are going to get z number of carries and you are going to get 'w' number of rushing carries.'This formula worked really well in Minnesota for the like sof Cris Carter, Jake Reed, Randy Moss, Andrew Glover, Leroy Hoard, Robert Smith, Matthew Hatchett and so forth.That being said, I think Billick will sit down at the beginning of the season and say, "Mr. Owens, we are going to throw you the ball xxx amount of times. If you have a problem with that, speak up now."And although I am do not care for Billick, his pre-season ball distribution charts were pretty accurate.The BlueOnion
Joe Smifff
Footballguy
maybe they have decided to pony up and pay the man.personally...i see no reason to outbid yourself in this situation. which is exactly what they will be doing.
zoonation
Footballguy
I don't think TO's numbers are going to fall. Baltimore is a team that has a 2000 yard back that couldn't be stopped with eight guys in the box all year, presumably teams are going to continue to have to try to stop Jamal or get the ball run down their throat all game. TO will see single coverage a lot or Heap is going to burn you. Boeller has a year of experience under his belt, and I believe he is going to get Owens the ball. Owens also instantly gives this team some red zone cred. This offense looks pretty dangerous all of a sudden, and I would project Owens initially at 95-1350-12.
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