Owens to Hold a Press Conference (1 Viewer)

[suchislife]

Sports radio 610 WIP is reporting T.O. will be holding a 3pm (EST) press conference. Worth noting super agent Drew Rosenhaus is in town.

 

[belyeapower]

Sports radio 610 WIP is reporting T.O. will be holding a 3pm (EST) press conference. Worth noting super agent Drew Rosenhaus is in town.

Can't wait to see Drew SPIN this one... or it just might make me puke

 

[gman8343]

I'm ashamed to feel this giddy with excitement. Ashamed.

 

[JohnnyU]

Without football, TO would call a press conference to tell us his herpes has flared up again.

 

[suchislife]

I'm ashamed to feel this giddy with excitement. Ashamed.

Yeah, just.....can't.....look.....away...... I hear ya.WIP first mentioned the press conference as a rumor but now report it as fact.

 

[BigJim®]

 

[Koya]

Boy, that Rosenhaus has certainly helped guide his client correctly so far.

 

[Big Score]

Without football, TO would call a press conference to tell us his herpes has flared up again.

I thought that was Ron Mexico

 

[ILoveMyLions]

Without football, TO would call a press conference to tell us his herpes has flared up again.

Maybe he is going to Atlanta after all then...

 

[Gigantomachia]

What do you all think? Is TO simply ready to sit out the year and say nothing, i.e., not continue to point out the Eagles many flaws, or does he want out NOW and thinks he can bully the Eagles into cutting him outright?Clearly the Eagles can just sit back and act like he is not there, but can they realistically ignore his public comments; of which there will be many I am sure. Maybe TO figured this was the only way out of his contract and has no problem sitting out a year. But as I understand the situation, the players union needs to see that TO was not fulfilling his contract. Interestingly, no one doubts his work ethic or questions that he plays at 100% all the time. "Causing problems for team morale" seems very subjective at best, what is not is that TO played at the level demanded of him by his contract. Guess I am just wondering how much leverage TO has with respect to his "not playing well with others." I remember the Braves about 10 years ago all hating each other, and Cox was very clear; we do not have to be friends to be play as a team. Considering the NFL is a business and not a feel-good boys club, seems TO has a valid argument, IMO.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Sports radio 610 WIP is reporting T.O. will be holding a 3pm (EST) press conference. Worth noting super agent Drew Rosenhaus is in town.

He doesn't seem very "super" right now.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

 

[JohnnyU]

What do you all think? Is TO simply ready to sit out the year and say nothing, i.e., not continue to point out the Eagles many flaws, or does he want out NOW and thinks he can bully the Eagles into cutting him outright?

Clearly the Eagles can just sit back and act like he is not there, but can they realistically ignore his public comments; of which there will be many I am sure. Maybe TO figured this was the only way out of his contract and has no problem sitting out a year. But as I understand the situation, the players union needs to see that TO was not fulfilling his contract. Interestingly, no one doubts his work ethic or questions that he plays at 100% all the time. "Causing problems for team morale" seems very subjective at best, what is not is that TO played at the level demanded of him by his contract.

Guess I am just wondering how much leverage TO has with respect to his "not playing well with others." I remember the Braves about 10 years ago all hating each other, and Cox was very clear; we do not have to be friends to be play as a team. Considering the NFL is a business and not a feel-good boys club, seems TO has a valid argument, IMO.

Again, the Eagles gain nothing by cutting TO. He can make public comments whether he's a member of the Eagles or not. Also, wouldn't it be funny if the Eagles decided to honor TO's contract, and pay him, but sit him through the duration of it ? Talk about ruining a career.

 

[BlueOnion]

Probably nothing. I suspect T.O. and Rosenhaus will just clear the air and announce "Despite the speculation, T.O. does not have a problem with being a team player. Now please show us the "

 

[Mungo Burrows]

What do you all think? Is TO simply ready to sit out the year and say nothing, i.e., not continue to point out the Eagles many flaws, or does he want out NOW and thinks he can bully the Eagles into cutting him outright?

Clearly the Eagles can just sit back and act like he is not there, but can they realistically ignore his public comments; of which there will be many I am sure.

If he uses this (or any subsequent opportunity) to badmouth the team and players, I would love to see them tack on an additional Conduct Detrimental suspension on top of the one he's already serving and keep him on unpaid suspension even longer.

 

[BlueOnion]

What do you all think?  Is TO simply ready to sit out the year and say nothing, i.e., not continue to point out the Eagles many flaws, or does he want out NOW and thinks he can bully the Eagles into cutting him outright?

Clearly the Eagles can just sit back and act like he is not there, but can they realistically ignore his public comments; of which there will be many I am sure.

If he uses this (or any subsequent opportunity) to badmouth the team and players, I would love to see them tack on an additional Conduct Detrimental suspension on top of the one he's already serving and keep him on unpaid suspension even longer.

Probably true. The more bad-mouthing T.O. does to the Eagles, it just gives them more ammunition for breach of contract.

 

[Gigantomachia]

What do you all think?  Is TO simply ready to sit out the year and say nothing, i.e., not continue to point out the Eagles many flaws, or does he want out NOW and thinks he can bully the Eagles into cutting him outright?

Clearly the Eagles can just sit back and act like he is not there, but can they realistically ignore his public comments; of which there will be many I am sure.  Maybe TO figured this was the only way out of his contract and has no problem sitting out a year.  But as I understand the situation, the players union needs to see that TO was not fulfilling his contract.  Interestingly, no one doubts his work ethic or questions that he plays at 100% all the time.  "Causing problems for team morale" seems very subjective at best, what is not is that TO played at the level demanded of him by his contract. 

Guess I am just wondering how much leverage TO has with respect to his "not playing well with others."  I remember the Braves about 10 years ago all hating each other, and Cox was very clear; we do not have to be friends to be play as a team.  Considering the NFL is a business and not a feel-good boys club, seems TO has a valid argument, IMO.

Again, the Eagles gain nothing by cutting TO. He can make public comments whether he's a member of the Eagles or not. Also, wouldn't it be funny if the Eagles decided to honor TO's contract, and pay him, but sit him through the duration of it ? Talk about ruining a career.

I understand the basic concept the Eagles are working with, I just wonder if they have really considered what a full blown TO-Rosenhaus media attack would look like? Clearly TO could do this if wasn't with the team, but then he would have less reason to care what the eagles did or did not do.Just trying to think outside the box a bit, I am betting TO is not going to go nearly as quiet as Johnson did.

 

[TommyGilmore]

I think I will hold off on cutting T.O. until around 4 p.m. EST.......

 

[BlueOnion]

What do you all think?  Is TO simply ready to sit out the year and say nothing, i.e., not continue to point out the Eagles many flaws, or does he want out NOW and thinks he can bully the Eagles into cutting him outright?

Clearly the Eagles can just sit back and act like he is not there, but can they realistically ignore his public comments; of which there will be many I am sure.  Maybe TO figured this was the only way out of his contract and has no problem sitting out a year.  But as I understand the situation, the players union needs to see that TO was not fulfilling his contract.  Interestingly, no one doubts his work ethic or questions that he plays at 100% all the time.  "Causing problems for team morale" seems very subjective at best, what is not is that TO played at the level demanded of him by his contract. 

Guess I am just wondering how much leverage TO has with respect to his "not playing well with others."  I remember the Braves about 10 years ago all hating each other, and Cox was very clear; we do not have to be friends to be play as a team.  Considering the NFL is a business and not a feel-good boys club, seems TO has a valid argument, IMO.

Again, the Eagles gain nothing by cutting TO. He can make public comments whether he's a member of the Eagles or not. Also, wouldn't it be funny if the Eagles decided to honor TO's contract, and pay him, but sit him through the duration of it ? Talk about ruining a career.

I understand the basic concept the Eagles are working with, I just wonder if they have really considered what a full blown TO-Rosenhaus media attack would look like? Clearly TO could do this if wasn't with the team, but then he would have less reason to care what the eagles did or did not do.Just trying to think outside the box a bit, I am betting TO is not going to go nearly as quiet as Johnson did.

I don't know. You have to think T.O. and Rosenhaus are basically in damage control as they only have a few months until March (Free agency) when the Eagles will release him. Not sure how bad-mouthing the Eagles would help their marketing efforts.

 

[Gigantomachia]

What do you all think?  Is TO simply ready to sit out the year and say nothing, i.e., not continue to point out the Eagles many flaws, or does he want out NOW and thinks he can bully the Eagles into cutting him outright?

Clearly the Eagles can just sit back and act like he is not there, but can they realistically ignore his public comments; of which there will be many I am sure.

If he uses this (or any subsequent opportunity) to badmouth the team and players, I would love to see them tack on an additional Conduct Detrimental suspension on top of the one he's already serving and keep him on unpaid suspension even longer.

I don't think it is that easy. The language of contracts is kept vague for a reason, Rosie may be a #### but he isn't a fool. I am betting they are working on unpacking the exact language as we speak.

 

[JohnnyU]

What do you all think?  Is TO simply ready to sit out the year and say nothing, i.e., not continue to point out the Eagles many flaws, or does he want out NOW and thinks he can bully the Eagles into cutting him outright?

Clearly the Eagles can just sit back and act like he is not there, but can they realistically ignore his public comments; of which there will be many I am sure.  Maybe TO figured this was the only way out of his contract and has no problem sitting out a year.  But as I understand the situation, the players union needs to see that TO was not fulfilling his contract.  Interestingly, no one doubts his work ethic or questions that he plays at 100% all the time.  "Causing problems for team morale" seems very subjective at best, what is not is that TO played at the level demanded of him by his contract. 

Guess I am just wondering how much leverage TO has with respect to his "not playing well with others."  I remember the Braves about 10 years ago all hating each other, and Cox was very clear; we do not have to be friends to be play as a team.  Considering the NFL is a business and not a feel-good boys club, seems TO has a valid argument, IMO.

Again, the Eagles gain nothing by cutting TO. He can make public comments whether he's a member of the Eagles or not. Also, wouldn't it be funny if the Eagles decided to honor TO's contract, and pay him, but sit him through the duration of it ? Talk about ruining a career.

I understand the basic concept the Eagles are working with, I just wonder if they have really considered what a full blown TO-Rosenhaus media attack would look like? Clearly TO could do this if wasn't with the team, but then he would have less reason to care what the eagles did or did not do.Just trying to think outside the box a bit, I am betting TO is not going to go nearly as quiet as Johnson did.

I don't know. You have to think T.O. and Rosenhaus are basically in damage control as they only have a few months until March (Free agency) when the Eagles will release him. Not sure how bad-mouthing the Eagles would help their marketing efforts.

bingoEdited to say, but this is TO we are talking about, so logic isn't a consideration.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Drew's lost quite a bit of loot b/c of TO's idiocy the last couple of weeks. I'm guessing TO is wearing a muzzle at this press conference, and Drew does much/most of the talking.

 

[Gigantomachia]

What do you all think?  Is TO simply ready to sit out the year and say nothing, i.e., not continue to point out the Eagles many flaws, or does he want out NOW and thinks he can bully the Eagles into cutting him outright?

Clearly the Eagles can just sit back and act like he is not there, but can they realistically ignore his public comments; of which there will be many I am sure.  Maybe TO figured this was the only way out of his contract and has no problem sitting out a year.  But as I understand the situation, the players union needs to see that TO was not fulfilling his contract.  Interestingly, no one doubts his work ethic or questions that he plays at 100% all the time.  "Causing problems for team morale" seems very subjective at best, what is not is that TO played at the level demanded of him by his contract. 

Guess I am just wondering how much leverage TO has with respect to his "not playing well with others."  I remember the Braves about 10 years ago all hating each other, and Cox was very clear; we do not have to be friends to be play as a team.  Considering the NFL is a business and not a feel-good boys club, seems TO has a valid argument, IMO.

Again, the Eagles gain nothing by cutting TO. He can make public comments whether he's a member of the Eagles or not. Also, wouldn't it be funny if the Eagles decided to honor TO's contract, and pay him, but sit him through the duration of it ? Talk about ruining a career.

I understand the basic concept the Eagles are working with, I just wonder if they have really considered what a full blown TO-Rosenhaus media attack would look like? Clearly TO could do this if wasn't with the team, but then he would have less reason to care what the eagles did or did not do.Just trying to think outside the box a bit, I am betting TO is not going to go nearly as quiet as Johnson did.

I don't know. You have to think T.O. and Rosenhaus are basically in damage control as they only have a few months until March (Free agency) when the Eagles will release him. Not sure how bad-mouthing the Eagles would help their marketing efforts.

Not so much bad-mouthing as demanding that TO did live up to his contract and reversing the table so to speak. I would just like to see the exact language of the contract and see how much wiggle room there is for TO to argue that he was in fact living up to his contract. If he can the players union to concede that by the language TO was doing what was expected of him, it makes this a totally different situation.

 

[fatness]

Boy, that Rosenhaus has certainly helped guide his client correctly so far.

I'm not sure Rosenhaus has made any money off Owens yet. His current contract was negotiated by a previous agent, so Drew made nothing off that. His holdouts and other behavior, even if advised by Rosenhaus, did not make him any additional money from which Drew would get a cut.But Owens needs a lawyer to handle his grievance, so there's probably money to be made there for Rosenhaus. And there's money to be made getting Owens signed to a new contract.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I don't know. You have to think T.O. and Rosenhaus are basically in damage control as they only have a few months until March (Free agency) when the Eagles will release him. Not sure how bad-mouthing the Eagles would help their marketing efforts.

Based on TO's conduct this far, what makes you think he'll do the logical thing in this situation?TO wanted a new contract for mo money, and for the past 4 months he's done nothing but squander millions and millions of dollars.

I absolutely love it.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Boy, that Rosenhaus has certainly helped guide his client correctly so far.

I'm not sure Rosenhaus has made any money off Owens yet. His current contract was negotiated by a previous agent, so Drew made nothing off that. His holdouts and other behavior, even if advised by Rosenhaus, did not make him any additional money from which Drew would get a cut.But Owens needs a lawyer to handle his grievance, so there's probably money to be made there for Rosenhaus. And there's money to be made getting Owens signed to a new contract.

Drew didn't negotiate that deal with the Eagles?

 

[Otis]

This is so awesome.

 

[suchislife]

Boy, that Rosenhaus has certainly helped guide his client correctly so far.

I'm not sure Rosenhaus has made any money off Owens yet. His current contract was negotiated by a previous agent, so Drew made nothing off that. His holdouts and other behavior, even if advised by Rosenhaus, did not make him any additional money from which Drew would get a cut.But Owens needs a lawyer to handle his grievance, so there's probably money to be made there for Rosenhaus. And there's money to be made getting Owens signed to a new contract.

Drew didn't negotiate that deal with the Eagles?

No. Drew acquired T.O. as a client after the Philly deal. He convinced TO his contract was bad and he could get him more money. That's essentially how this whole drama started.

 

[3C's]

I have a root canal scheduled at 3. Darn.

 

[helix]

Drew's lost quite a bit of loot b/c of TO's idiocy the last couple of weeks. I'm guessing TO is wearing a muzzle at this press conference, and Drew does much/most of the talking.

Actually, Drew is in postition to MAKE money. Drew did not negotiate the last contract and will only get paid on a new deal. Since the Eagles will most likely release TO at the end of the season, Drew will make some cash on a new deal. It sucks for TO, but Drew will get paid.

 

[Pittsburgh P]

Far-fetched (but possible) hypothetical:At this 3pm press-conference, T.O. issues a public apology to the Eagles organization and players in general, and also specifically to Donovan McNabb, Andy Reid, and Hugh Douglas.He also indicates that he would like the opportunity to personally and privately apologize to the same.He shows (what appears to be) sincere contrition and explains that he will do WHATEVER it takes to get back on the field as soon as possible.Does he play again for the Eagles?If so, how soon?How likely is this scenario (in percent)?

 

[redman]

Again, the Eagles gain nothing by cutting TO. He can make public comments whether he's a member of the Eagles or not. Also, wouldn't it be funny if the Eagles decided to honor TO's contract, and pay him, but sit him through the duration of it ? Talk about ruining a career.

Cutting him makes it a lot tougher to get into fights with Hugh Douglas in the training room or elevators, or arguments with Dawkins in the locker room, no?

 

[JohnnyU]

Drew's lost quite a bit of loot b/c of TO's idiocy the last couple of weeks.  I'm guessing TO is wearing a muzzle at this press conference, and Drew does much/most of the talking.

Actually, Drew is in postition to MAKE money. Drew did not negotiate the last contract and will only get paid on a new deal. Since the Eagles will most likely release TO at the end of the season, Drew will make some cash on a new deal. It sucks for TO, but Drew will get paid.

It won't be a long term deal for Terrell "rent-me-for-1-year" Owens, EVER!!

 

[glumpy]

Boy, that Rosenhaus has certainly helped guide his client correctly so far.

I'm not sure Rosenhaus has made any money off Owens yet. His current contract was negotiated by a previous agent, so Drew made nothing off that. His holdouts and other behavior, even if advised by Rosenhaus, did not make him any additional money from which Drew would get a cut.But Owens needs a lawyer to handle his grievance, so there's probably money to be made there for Rosenhaus. And there's money to be made getting Owens signed to a new contract.

Drew didn't negotiate that deal with the Eagles?

Nope, and with that in mind--I wonder how much Drew might have been encouraging TO to keep up his criticism in hopes that it came to just this sort of conclusion. He has no reason to want TO staying where he's at and every reason to want a new contract anywhere he can work one; it wasn't going to happen with the Eagles, so Drew would be just as happy getting TO somewhere else. Now that it's happened this conference very well might be his play to keep as many opportunities as possible open for next year.

 

[JohnnyU]

Again, the Eagles gain nothing by cutting TO.  He can make public comments whether he's a member of the Eagles or not.  Also, wouldn't it be funny if the Eagles decided to honor TO's contract, and pay him, but sit him through the duration of it ?  Talk about ruining a career.

Cutting him makes it a lot tougher to get into fights with Hugh Douglas in the training room or elevators, or arguments with Dawkins in the locker room, no?

Yes, but deactivating him and telling him to stay away from these facilities accomplishes the same thing.

 

[redman]

Far-fetched (but possible) hypothetical:

At this 3pm press-conference, T.O. issues a public apology to the Eagles organization and players in general, and also specifically to Donovan McNabb, Andy Reid, and Hugh Douglas.

He also indicates that he would like the opportunity to personally and privately apologize to the same.

He shows (what appears to be) sincere contrition and explains that he will do WHATEVER it takes to get back on the field as soon as possible.

Does he play again for the Eagles?

If so, how soon?

How likely is this scenario (in percent)?

Seeing as how this could be viewed as an admission of past wrongdoing, I have a hard time seeing either TO or Rosey going for that.

 

[Billy Bats]

3/1 odds we see crocodile tears.

 

[redman]

3/2 odds that we see Owens wearing a t-shirt with a "message for the Eagles" or about him on it.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Boy, that Rosenhaus has certainly helped guide his client correctly so far.

Yeah, just like when Rosenhaus instructed Javon Walker to barter a long-term extension with the Packers as a hedge against a future injury. :X

 

[Billy Bats]

3/2 odds that we see Owens wearing a t-shirt with a "message for the Eagles" or about him on it.

Maybe he wears his Irvin jersey again!

 

[Courtjester]

Drew's lost quite a bit of loot b/c of TO's idiocy the last couple of weeks. I'm guessing TO is wearing a muzzle at this press conference, and Drew does much/most of the talking.

I agree with Tommy here. I see TO reading a prepared statement and then Drew taking over from there and indicating that they are working hand and hand with the player's union in their grievence process against the Eagles.They are going to try and paint TO out as the victim in this whole thing and I can see (as previously posted) some tears from TO even if Drew is pinching him under the table to get them out.

 

[tick dog]

I have a root canal scheduled at 3. Darn.

I don't need one, but I'm going to schedule a root canal at 3pm.

 

[belyeapower]

Drew's lost quite a bit of loot b/c of TO's idiocy the last couple of weeks. I'm guessing TO is wearing a muzzle at this press conference, and Drew does much/most of the talking.

like hannibal lechter in silence of the lambs?I can envision that...

 

[blenderfrog]

3/2 odds that we see Owens wearing a t-shirt with a "message for the Eagles" or about him on it.

Maybe he wears his Irvin jersey again!

That would actually be pretty cool .

 

[Deranged Hermit]

James McDevitt, a Domino's Pizza deliveryman and diehard Eagles fan, delivered what he said was about $20 worth of pizza to Owens' house last night. McDevitt left the $5 tip on the porch. "He needs it to feed his family," said McDevitt, poking fun at the reason Owens cited for demanding a new contract this summer.

 

[roadkill1292]

What do you all think?  Is TO simply ready to sit out the year and say nothing, i.e., not continue to point out the Eagles many flaws, or does he want out NOW and thinks he can bully the Eagles into cutting him outright?

Clearly the Eagles can just sit back and act like he is not there, but can they realistically ignore his public comments; of which there will be many I am sure.  Maybe TO figured this was the only way out of his contract and has no problem sitting out a year.  But as I understand the situation, the players union needs to see that TO was not fulfilling his contract.  Interestingly, no one doubts his work ethic or questions that he plays at 100% all the time.  "Causing problems for team morale" seems very subjective at best, what is not is that TO played at the level demanded of him by his contract. 

Guess I am just wondering how much leverage TO has with respect to his "not playing well with others."  I remember the Braves about 10 years ago all hating each other, and Cox was very clear; we do not have to be friends to be play as a team.  Considering the NFL is a business and not a feel-good boys club, seems TO has a valid argument, IMO.

Again, the Eagles gain nothing by cutting TO. He can make public comments whether he's a member of the Eagles or not. Also, wouldn't it be funny if the Eagles decided to honor TO's contract, and pay him, but sit him through the duration of it ? Talk about ruining a career.

I understand the basic concept the Eagles are working with, I just wonder if they have really considered what a full blown TO-Rosenhaus media attack would look like? Clearly TO could do this if wasn't with the team, but then he would have less reason to care what the eagles did or did not do.Just trying to think outside the box a bit, I am betting TO is not going to go nearly as quiet as Johnson did.

Gig, wouldn't a full-blown media attack require the support of the media? Granted, the drama queens in the media love this dog-and-pony show but I've heard precious little support for TO in the past 24 hours, Michael Irvin and Steve Young being two of the most prominent exceptions.He can make a stink, sure, especially contractually. But it seems that media, or public, pressure is hardly gonna sway the Eagles in one direction or another right now.

 

[GreedoShotFirst]

3/2 odds that we see Owens wearing a t-shirt with a "message for the Eagles" or about him on it.

Maybe he wears his IrvinKeyshawn jersey again!

fixed

 

[JaxBill]

3/2 odds that we see Owens wearing a t-shirt with a "message for the Eagles" or about him on it.

I think Rosenhaus shows up with a "Free TO" t-shirt on under a sportscoat.

 

[BigJim®]

James McDevitt, a Domino's Pizza deliveryman and diehard Eagles fan, delivered what he said was about $20 worth of pizza to Owens' house last night. McDevitt left the $5 tip on the porch. "He needs it to feed his family," said McDevitt, poking fun at the reason Owens cited for demanding a new contract this summer.

Funny. However, my initial thought is I hope that delivery guy doesn't need his job too bad because I think it was unwise to drag the Dominos name, or his role as a Dominos' customer servant, into this. Most people who insult customers are looking for new jobs soon thereafter.

 

[Mr. Anonymous]

But leaving a tip for a customer is a NICE thing to do. And T.O. DID say he needed money to feed his family....I would assume that most fans in Philly love this, and therefore Domino's loves one of their employees making almost everyone in the city smile. They will probably give him a "now don't do it again."