P. Manning Owners You Starting or Sitting vs Tough KC Pass Rush? (1 Viewer)

[MissionCoach]

Although the MRI Manning had did not reveal any type of injury, Manning has been taking his fair share of hits lately. I have read he is going to play, but keeps complaining about his "lower body" (not sure what that means, lol).

In any event I am wondering what the Manning owners were doing this week vs a very tough KC pass rush.

I am debating about playing Wilson instead at home. Ultimately I think I will start Manning though, gonna be a last minute decision based on any late breaking info.

What say you Manning owners?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Uh...I won't be benching Peyton, ever, as long as he plays.

Maybe that's an exaggeration, but there isn't a defense that's ever existed that would make me bench Peyton this year.

 

[paddy93]

I think Peyton does okay. I'm more worried about how he feels after two games against the best pass rush in the league .

Will he stay healthy..

 

[steveski]

I'm starting Fitzpatrick in one league. Want to trade?

You don't bench Peyton.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I'm starting Fitzpatrick in one league. Want to trade?

You don't bench Peyton.

Exactly. This is insanity.

 

[kutta]

He might have a bad game of 300 and 3. No way I'm sitting him anywhere in any league.

 

[metoo]

Why is this a thread? You never bench Peyton F'n Manning.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Definition of overthinking things.

 

[McGarnicle]

Oh crap is he dead? What happened?

 

[need2know]

Bench him and let us know how much you cry watching him throw for 350 and 4

 

[sjdogs]

Yeah this thread should end and you need to have head examined to bench manning ever.

I could play cam but wouldnt dream it

 

[fantasycurse42]

OP, ignore what everyone is saying - I think you're onto something. I would prob start Wilson in this situation. Honestly I'm expecting big things from Scott Tolzien against a sluggish Giants defense, but I'd actually recommend Luke McCown as I'm pretty sure he will have a monster day. Good luck with the tough decision.

 

[JuniorNB]

Unless you also have Drew Brees, you're starting Manning and not giving it a second thought.

 

[Spanky24]

OP, ignore what everyone is saying - I think you're onto something. I would prob start Wilson in this situation. Honestly I'm expecting big things from Scott Tolzien against a sluggish Giants defense, but I'd actually recommend Luke McCown as I'm pretty sure he will have a monster day. Good luck with the tough decision.

This.

 

[qimqam]

He's got KC twice in the next 3 weeks ... I dropped him for Case Keenum and I will pick up again after the 2nd KC game.

 

[SWC]

i am so scared of this that i benched him three weeks ago and will not use him again this year because the kc defense is just that good actually i did not do that because benching peyton is dumb bam there is your answer take that to the bank brohans

 

[Fireballer]

Seriously??? KC is an awesome FANTASY defense. Now granted, they hold their own as a real defense, but they allowed a respectable day from Jason Campbell. KC D in no way will be the downfall of Manning's stats.

 

[JuniorNB]

You guys who are over thinking this are going to kick yourselves in the ###.

 

[Apple Jack]

i am so scared of this that i benched him three weeks ago and will not use him again this year because the kc defense is just that good actually i did not do that because benching peyton is dumb bam there is your answer take that to the bank brohans

To the letter exactly what I was thinking brohominy.

 

[maf005]

When I'm deciding between two QBs to start I use the question of "which qb is on pace to throw for 58tds this season" as a tiebreaker

 

[NREC34]

I'm not high on a hobbled Manning vs KC defense but he's still better than most other options. I think with the pressure KC brings it could lead to some sacks and ints. He should still get decent yardage. I definitely look for them to try run more than usual.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I'm not high on a hobbled Manning vs KC defense but he's still better than most other options. I think with the pressure KC brings it could lead to some sacks and ints. He should still get decent yardage. I definitely look for them to try run more than usual.

This. When you consider that Buffalo, with their 18th string QB playing, ran all over KC a few weeks back, I see the Broncos trying to run a lot on Sunday to try and slow down their pass rush early.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Game in Denver I would have zero reservations about starting him. Game in KC I might have some reservations about it but unless I had a REALLY good alternative or a great matchup such as the Raiders or Redskins defense, I would still roll out Peyton. Now I'm facing a similar dilemma in two weeks about starting Brees in Seattle vs that secondary or Starting Cutler (or McCown) at Minnesota.

 

[kutta]

I think this was posted somewhere else, but it bears repeating. Here are the QB's faced by KC this year:

1. Gabbert

2. Romo

3. Vick

4. Eli

5. Fitzpatrick

6. Pryor

7. Keenum

8. Campbell

9. Tuel

10. Bye

That is a ridiculous list of bad QB's. That could be the worst 9 QB's any team has ever faced to start a season. Here are the top 11 passing teams in yards per game from this year:

Broncos, Saints, Lions, Chargers, Packers, Falcons, Bengals, Bears, Eagles, Redskins, Steelers. KC has played one of those teams (Eagles), and they played them with Vick, not Foles.

I'm not saying the KC D isn't good. But they haven't faced anything like this Denver offense all year.

 

[ebsteelers]

if you have a russell wilson than maybe because wilson has a great match up.. but for the most part your back up isnt gonna be someone like him so I'd start manning.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

They will run a lot this week. 1) to keep the Chefs honest. 2) to protect Peyton. 3) because the Chefs are more vulnerable on the ground.

I would look for stats similar to the Jags game.

 

[Dizzy]

Why is this a thread? You never bench Peyton F'n Manning.

Agreed, 100%... unless you think there's a better than average chance that he does not finish the game.

His words were pretty carefully chosen at his presser yesterday regarding his health... will be interesting to hear the practice reports this week.

I agree that you can't really bench him, but don't be surprised if he doesn't answer the bell for the 2nd half. He hasn't exactly been untouchable this season and the Chiefs get after the QB, big time.

 

[Bhdevault]

I'm going to have to disagree with all the stupid thread comments.

Some of the comments made me laugh, so it was worth reading.

I especially liked, "He's got KC twice in the next 3 weeks ... I dropped him for Case Keenum and I will pick up again after the 2nd KC game."

 

[Dizzy]

Quite honestly the stupidest thread I have ever seen. Had to stop in and say that. Carry on with this laughable topic.

Read the original post... the dude's other option is Russell Wilson, at home, versus Minnesota. Not exactly chopped liver.

And I guess you see Peyton Manning, nicked up, versus the undefeated Chiefs (winning on the strength of their defense) as a virtual lock to score so many more points than Wilson, that this is the stupidest thread you have ever seen?

The question is legit from his perspective. Even if you're one of those "never bench your studs" guys.

And for the doubters that say "look at the QB's KC has faced"... same can be said for the defenses DEN has faced so far. Most on that list are getting lit up by everybody, not just Peyton & Co.

 

[tsarc888]

FYI.....David Dodds has Peyton Manning a mere 8/10ths of a point better projected than Wilson this week in standard scoring. Maybe he's an idiot too like everyone is saying about OP?

I don't own Wilson nor Peyton, but if forced to choose, I'd go Manning. I just don't think it's such a ridiculous question to discuss like many here do.

OP.....it's your team, so go with your gut in the end. The Shark Pool is riddled with absolutes which are absolutes until, well, they aren't anymore. Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Never. Bench. Your. Studs.

 

[massraider]

Quite honestly the stupidest thread I have ever seen. Had to stop in and say that. Carry on with this laughable topic.

Read the original post... the dude's other option is Russell Wilson, at home, versus Minnesota. Not exactly chopped liver.

And I guess you see Peyton Manning, nicked up, versus the undefeated Chiefs (winning on the strength of their defense) as a virtual lock to score so many more points than Wilson, that this is the stupidest thread you have ever seen?

The question is legit from his perspective. Even if you're one of those "never bench your studs" guys.

And for the doubters that say "look at the QB's KC has faced"... same can be said for the defenses DEN has faced so far. Most on that list are getting lit up by everybody, not just Peyton & Co.

I guess you can make an argument for anything.

 

[Billy Bats]

OP, ignore what everyone is saying - I think you're onto something. I would prob start Wilson in this situation. Honestly I'm expecting big things from Scott Tolzien against a sluggish Giants defense, but I'd actually recommend Luke McCown as I'm pretty sure he will have a monster day. Good luck with the tough decision.

 

[Keith Lewis]

And y'all think the Shark Pool is the greatest fantasy forum.

Pfft...

 

[Routilla]

KC will be bringing the heat for sure with his gimpy ankle. The pick-six seems a little more likely than normal, IMO.

 

[Warrior]

In any event I am wondering what the Manning owners were doing this week

srsly?

Tough choice with whether or not we should bench Calvin and Adrian Peterson too?

 

[Warrior]

KC will be bringing the heat for sure with his gimpy ankle. The pick-six seems a little more likely than normal, IMO.

Pick-six is only -1 fantasy point for most leagues. I think Manning owners will survive.

 

[Routilla]

KC will be bringing the heat for sure with his gimpy ankle. The pick-six seems a little more likely than normal, IMO.

Pick-six is only -1 fantasy point for most leagues. I think Manning owners will survive.

-6 in our league

 

[McGarnicle]

KC will be bringing the heat for sure with his gimpy ankle. The pick-six seems a little more likely than normal, IMO.

Pick-six is only -1 fantasy point for most leagues. I think Manning owners will survive.

-6 in our league

That's a pretty stupid rule, given the number of INTs that are the receiver's fault.

 

[Routilla]

KC will be bringing the heat for sure with his gimpy ankle. The pick-six seems a little more likely than normal, IMO.

Pick-six is only -1 fantasy point for most leagues. I think Manning owners will survive.

-6 in our league

That's a pretty stupid rule, given the number of INTs that are the receiver's fault.

Not stupid when the QB costs his team 6 points, just like in real football.

 

[dcgangstas]

I"d start Peyton if they rolled him out there in a f""n wheelchair.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Peyton does get rid of it quicker than almost anyone else and he's got such a nice cache of targets to throw it to that the rush will have much less of an impact on his game than on any other qb so worrying about how any teams rush will throw him off seems like pure folly. If the injury is a concern and could impact his throwing motion then I think that is a legitimate concern but if he's close to 100 percent then this looks like a no brainer.

 

[Gvindy]

Definitely bench him, he is awful, not good at all.

 

[Dizzy]

Quite honestly the stupidest thread I have ever seen. Had to stop in and say that. Carry on with this laughable topic.

Read the original post... the dude's other option is Russell Wilson, at home, versus Minnesota. Not exactly chopped liver.

And I guess you see Peyton Manning, nicked up, versus the undefeated Chiefs (winning on the strength of their defense) as a virtual lock to score so many more points than Wilson, that this is the stupidest thread you have ever seen?

The question is legit from his perspective. Even if you're one of those "never bench your studs" guys.

And for the doubters that say "look at the QB's KC has faced"... same can be said for the defenses DEN has faced so far. Most on that list are getting lit up by everybody, not just Peyton & Co.

Yup reread it and still the most ignorant thing i have ever heard, benching Peyton Manning!

Also, read your post and think you must have no eyes ears and are unable to process any information if you are trying to justify benching Manning for any reason.

Let me be clear. If Manning was unable to move what so ever and was unable to get off his couch and not make it to the game, I would still start him over any other QB in the league including Brees.

NEVER BENCH PEYTON MANNING!

Actually the OP says he will be starting Peyton Manning.

BUT WE LOVE YOUR PASSION!!!

 

[TwinTurbo]

Both these teams have played cupcake schedules to date. So now we get to see how good they really are. Maybe KC really does have the league's best defense despite facing a string of teams with losing records and backup QBs. Maybe they will hold Peyton to Alex Smith like numbers. But I doubt it.

 

[Dizzy]

Never. Bench. Your. Studs.

Rice.Spiller.Fitzgerald.others...

Even studs go bad eventually. Not saying that's the case with Peyton, but he'll hit his point of no return. They all do.

 

[massraider]

Never. Bench. Your. Studs.

Rice.Spiller.Fitzgerald.others...

Even studs go bad eventually. Not saying that's the case with Peyton, but he'll hit his point of no return. They all do.

When he does, you know how we'll know? Because he will start performing badly. It's a great hint that your studs are benchable, and no longer studs.

When they are studs, they are performing well, and you don't bench them.

 

[ChainsawU]

I"d start Peyton if they rolled him out there in a f""n wheelchair.

I agree. That would be one of those situations where it would almost be too easy to bench him, but then he goes off.

 

[Dizzy]

Never. Bench. Your. Studs.

Rice.Spiller.Fitzgerald.others...

Even studs go bad eventually. Not saying that's the case with Peyton, but he'll hit his point of no return. They all do.

Fitz gets a TD every other week, but sucks all of a sudden. lol

Larry Fitzgerald = unbenchable stud? Interesting.

You still rolling with Rice every week? Anyone have the link to the list of unbenchable studs? Are there more than 5 names on the list?

Makes a lot of sense actually... the "never bench your studs" guys must be the ones crying on the weekly CJ Spiller threads and then jumping over to the Zac Stacy threads saying it was the result of a 1-game match-up.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Never. Bench. Your. Studs.

Rice.Spiller.Fitzgerald.others...

Even studs go bad eventually. Not saying that's the case with Peyton, but he'll hit his point of no return. They all do.

Fitz gets a TD every other week, but sucks all of a sudden. lol

Larry Fitzgerald = unbenchable stud? Interesting.

You still rolling with Rice every week? Anyone have the link to the list of unbenchable studs? Are there more than 5 names on the list?

Makes a lot of sense actually... the "never bench your studs" guys must be the ones crying on the weekly CJ Spiller threads and then jumping over to the Zac Stacy threads saying it was the result of a 1-game match-up.

Peyton, Brees, shady, ap, charles, bush, Lynch mega, Marshall, Dez, green, andre johnson, Gronk, graham, d thomas, & djax has just about earned his way onto here for 2013 - these guys are unbenchable. Oh yea, can't be bench TRich either