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P. Thomas injury? (1 Viewer)

Todem said:
ThePittbully said:
Pierre did return to the game and busted a long screen pass, but then hobbled off the field immediately after and I don't think he returned. Ivory was also seen limping off a 2 plays before the missed FG in over time. I would think if Pierre is hurt Ivory is the guy to own, assuming he is healthy. But I would also expect to see some of Betts and more of Heath Evans
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He looked like dog ####. Blech.

Not good for the Saints.
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He's coming off a four week injury, and was running in situations where they were expecting run. The guys first practice was Thursday, if you're writing him off based just on this game you're making a mistake
 
VaTerp said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Pierre Thomas-RB- Saints Sep. 27 - 9:52 am et Pierre Thomas tweaked his ankle late in Sunday's loss to the Falcons.Thomas got his leg bent the wrong way at the tail end of regulation, but was able to return during the overtime period. It should not be an issue going forward. Thomas is a strong bet for 20 touches against the Panthers in Week 4.Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune
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Saw this on Rotoworld too but the actual article from the Times-Picayune is from last nite and seems to be making the assumption that because Thomas returned to the game he must be fine.I don't think that's a safe assumption and am still waiting for more info. I doubt Thomas practices on Wed. and there's good reason to worry that the ankle could be an issue moving forward.
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why are you guys trying like hell to make this into a big deal????I even posted a twitter earlier from P.T after the game ...no mention of any injuries...step away from the edge people...all signs (or lack there of) point to this being a NON issuePierre Thomas, RB, NOS - Tough loss today, but we will bounce back like we always do #saints 09-27per twitter tracker
 
bushisdaman said:
I think Payton is smart enough to look at the entire body of Chris Ivory's work and not one lackluster performance coming off an injury. Also with Bush out and the unknowns surrounding PT's injury you would have to assume they need RB depth and especially if a decent back can be had for cheap. I dont expect them to make a trade for Lynch or anything that drastic though.
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i could see them bringing larry johnson in for a look-see.
 
saintfool said:
bushisdaman said:
I think Payton is smart enough to look at the entire body of Chris Ivory's work and not one lackluster performance coming off an injury. Also with Bush out and the unknowns surrounding PT's injury you would have to assume they need RB depth and especially if a decent back can be had for cheap. I dont expect them to make a trade for Lynch or anything that drastic though.
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i could see them bringing larry johnson in for a look-see.
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Nothing to see there...move along...
 
BustedKnuckles said:
VaTerp said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Pierre Thomas-RB- Saints Sep. 27 - 9:52 am et Pierre Thomas tweaked his ankle late in Sunday's loss to the Falcons.Thomas got his leg bent the wrong way at the tail end of regulation, but was able to return during the overtime period. It should not be an issue going forward. Thomas is a strong bet for 20 touches against the Panthers in Week 4.Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune
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Saw this on Rotoworld too but the actual article from the Times-Picayune is from last nite and seems to be making the assumption that because Thomas returned to the game he must be fine.I don't think that's a safe assumption and am still waiting for more info. I doubt Thomas practices on Wed. and there's good reason to worry that the ankle could be an issue moving forward.
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why are you guys trying like hell to make this into a big deal????I even posted a twitter earlier from P.T after the game ...no mention of any injuries...step away from the edge people...all signs (or lack there of) point to this being a NON issuePierre Thomas, RB, NOS - Tough loss today, but we will bounce back like we always do #saints 09-27per twitter tracker
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I've seen it happen before where players looked fine and/or came back into games only to find out later they have a more substantial injury.It looked bad when it happened and people, who I assume were at the game, have posted here that he looked to be in considerable pain on the sideline after catching the screen pass in OT. And Betts and Ivory got into the game when I assume they wouldnt have had PT been fully ready to go.So I hope he's fine and that it's no big deal and he plays a produces next week. But sorry if I don't take a newspaper article from last nite mentioning the injury in passing or a tweet from PT with typical player speak after a loss as confirmation that his availibility and productivity won't be effected by having his ankle rolled up on him pretty damn good yesterday.I'm a little OCD when it comes to FF. But I know that and can live with it.
 
Could definitely be a non issue but he did leave the game after the screen pass and he was limping. And he never returned, so I do think its worth discussion until we find out more

 
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/...e_some_i_1.html

New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton said Monday the team suffered some nicks in its loss to Atlanta, but the extent and severity of them will not be clear - or made clear - until Wednesday.

Running back Pierre Thomas hurt his left ankle late in the game. He played initially on the Saints first possession in overtime, but did not appear to be an option when the Saints had a first down on the Falcons 11-yard line. Still, Payton denied Thomas' status was a key factor in his decision to attempt a 29-yard field goal that would have won the game. Kicker Garrett Hartley pulled that attempt wide left.

"I think when you get down to that 10-yard line, you're weighing the turnover," he said. "And I think more Pierre's injury, because if we were going to do anything you probably hand the ball off. But once we got down to the 10, I think there is certainly a confidence level you have and you say, 'this is where we needed to be.'"

Quarterback Drew Brees also walked off the field Sunday flexing a knee and was attended to on the sideline, but he returned to the game and did not appear to be suffering. Cornerback Tracy Porter also went out early with what appeared to be a hamstring issue and he spent most of the remainder of the game riding a stationary bicycle on the sideline. Porter did return to action late in the game, however.
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The bolded part is for the no news is good news crowd. Payton will wait until the last minute to give any details to an opponent that is preparing for his team.
 
BustedKnuckles said:
VaTerp said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Pierre Thomas-RB- Saints Sep. 27 - 9:52 am et

Pierre Thomas tweaked his ankle late in Sunday's loss to the Falcons.

Thomas got his leg bent the wrong way at the tail end of regulation, but was able to return during the overtime period. It should not be an issue going forward. Thomas is a strong bet for 20 touches against the Panthers in Week 4.

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune
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Saw this on Rotoworld too but the actual article from the Times-Picayune is from last nite and seems to be making the assumption that because Thomas returned to the game he must be fine.

I don't think that's a safe assumption and am still waiting for more info. I doubt Thomas practices on Wed. and there's good reason to worry that the ankle could be an issue moving forward.
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why are you guys trying like hell to make this into a big deal????I even posted a twitter earlier from P.T after the game ...no mention of any injuries...step away from the edge people...all signs (or lack there of) point to this being a NON issue

Pierre Thomas, RB, NOS - Tough loss today, but we will bounce back like we always do #saints 09-27

per twitter tracker
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Back injury? :goodposting:
 
DBIsports said:
ThePittbully said:
For what its worth people are reporting that Pierre left the dome last night in a walking boot
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What people? Do you have a link, or are these people you know that seen him in a walking boot? I am seeing nothing on message boards or sports sites.
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People who work dome security reported it on the Saints forum. Also in unrelated news brees had an mri on his knee today
 
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Doubt we hear anything until tomorrow when I'm predicting Thomas won't practice. Payton seems like he is gonna play this one close to the vest and we could be looking at the always fun game time decision.

I don't like the fact that we havent heard anything about the extent of the injury. Im in the no news is bad news crowd with this one. We've heard info on guys like Ray Rice, Best, and Witten but zilch on Pierre.

All speculation at this point and hopefully he's fine but I'm a lil worried that this may be an issue for a couple of weeks.

 
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ThePittbully said:
DBIsports said:
ThePittbully said:
For what its worth people are reporting that Pierre left the dome last night in a walking boot
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What people? Do you have a link, or are these people you know that seen him in a walking boot? I am seeing nothing on message boards or sports sites.
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People who work dome security reported it on the Saints forum. Also in unrelated news brees had an mri on his knee today
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I hope the madden curse didn't strike.
 
Fat Nick said:
saintfool said:
bushisdaman said:
I think Payton is smart enough to look at the entire body of Chris Ivory's work and not one lackluster performance coming off an injury. Also with Bush out and the unknowns surrounding PT's injury you would have to assume they need RB depth and especially if a decent back can be had for cheap. I dont expect them to make a trade for Lynch or anything that drastic though.
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i could see them bringing larry johnson in for a look-see.
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Nothing to see there...move along...
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I must add to this. Larry Johnson is NOT worth a look see. He now sucks. He has nothing left.C'mon Ivory. I need a #3 RB.
 
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Reading reports confirming PT did not practice today however he has not been ruled out of Sunday's game. Payton wants to see how he progresses and the week goes on. However, Chris Ivory fully practiced despite a knee injury.

 
Im putting in a waiver for Ivory just in case PT and Bush are both out for a while. Ivory will need to shake off some rust before I start him though.

 
Saints RB Pierre Thomas (ankle) did not practice Wednesday. Thomas hurt himself in the fourth quarter of last week's loss to the Falcons when his leg folded underneath him. Head coach Sean Payton said the team isn't interested in adding any running backs to the roster at this moment. "We'll see where Pierre is at [Thursday]," Payton said. "Really, he had some swelling. Fortunately the soreness for him is not as significant as you might expect with some ankles. It's not a high ankle sprain; it's not any of that, but there is swelling enough to where we held him out [Wednesday]."

(Updated 09/29/2010).

 
Given the situation and the opponent there's probably a really good chance Pierre doesn't play much if at all this weekend. I still believe Ivory is well worth a waiver pickup despite the poor showing last week.

 
I saw it mentioned that Payton said he may call up DeShawn Wynn from the practice squad. Anyone know anything about him? Worth a flyer in Dynasty?

 
jbz said:
Saints RB Pierre Thomas (ankle) did not practice Wednesday. Thomas hurt himself in the fourth quarter of last week's loss to the Falcons when his leg folded underneath him. Head coach Sean Payton said the team isn't interested in adding any running backs to the roster at this moment. "We'll see where Pierre is at [Thursday]," Payton said. "Really, he had some swelling. Fortunately the soreness for him is not as significant as you might expect with some ankles. It's not a high ankle sprain; it's not any of that, but there is swelling enough to where we held him out [Wednesday]."(Updated 09/29/2010).
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Doesnt sound too bad
 
shadyridr said:
jbz said:
Saints RB Pierre Thomas (ankle) did not practice Wednesday. Thomas hurt himself in the fourth quarter of last week's loss to the Falcons when his leg folded underneath him. Head coach Sean Payton said the team isn't interested in adding any running backs to the roster at this moment. "We'll see where Pierre is at [Thursday]," Payton said. "Really, he had some swelling. Fortunately the soreness for him is not as significant as you might expect with some ankles. It's not a high ankle sprain; it's not any of that, but there is swelling enough to where we held him out [Wednesday]."(Updated 09/29/2010).
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Doesnt sound too bad
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no it doesnt. but coaches, esp peyton, are often deceitful. i am pretty concerned, but the play looked bad to me. i would def try to find a plan b. but you never know with this things.
 
ThePittbully said:
Given the situation and the opponent there's probably a really good chance Pierre doesn't play much if at all this weekend. I still believe Ivory is well worth a waiver pickup despite the poor showing last week.
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Wondering how the workload would be distributed with Ivory and Betts if Thomas doesn't go Sunday.
 
VaTerp said:
ThePittbully said:
Given the situation and the opponent there's probably a really good chance Pierre doesn't play much if at all this weekend. I still believe Ivory is well worth a waiver pickup despite the poor showing last week.
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Wondering how the workload would be distributed with Ivory and Betts if Thomas doesn't go Sunday.
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That's anybody's guess but I would think Ivory would get the majority assuming he does something with the touches he's given. Betts was released in favor of Ivory already so that's one thing to consider, also I don't recall Betts taking any carries in the Atlanta game, I may be wrong though. Reports do state Ivory's knee is not 100% but he practiced fully today. That's also something to consider. I don't think his blocking will keep him off the field because he did well when asked to block last week.
 
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VaTerp said:
ThePittbully said:
Given the situation and the opponent there's probably a really good chance Pierre doesn't play much if at all this weekend. I still believe Ivory is well worth a waiver pickup despite the poor showing last week.
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Wondering how the workload would be distributed with Ivory and Betts if Thomas doesn't go Sunday.
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According to tweets by Brees, he seems to like Betts."I have been extremely impressed with how quickly Ladell Betts has picked up things in the short time he has been here," - @DrewBrees
 
ThePittbully said:
VaTerp said:
ThePittbully said:
Given the situation and the opponent there's probably a really good chance Pierre doesn't play much if at all this weekend. I still believe Ivory is well worth a waiver pickup despite the poor showing last week.
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Wondering how the workload would be distributed with Ivory and Betts if Thomas doesn't go Sunday.
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That's anybody's guess but I would think Ivory would get the majority assuming he does something with the touches he's given. Betts was released in favor of Ivory already so that's one thing to consider, also I don't recall Betts taking any carries in the Atlanta game, I may be wrong though. Reports do state Ivory's knee is not 100% but he practiced fully today. That's also something to consider. I don't think his blocking will keep him off the field because he did well when asked to block last week.
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i know that betts took the field in the ATL game pretty late in the game. it was after pierre went down, iirc. ivory will get his chances but i think the door is slightly open for betts. he might be the short yardage back given the difficulties that ivory showed at converting in those situations.
 
No transactions so far today for the Saints which means Wynn hasn't been signed from the practice squad.

I'm taking this as good news, but will still be ready for 'plan B.'

 
per Jeff Duncan:

Pierre Thomas will also be a game-day decision. Payton said he's a rare player that can miss practice & still play b/c of his intelligence.

 
identikit said:
per Jeff Duncan:Pierre Thomas will also be a game-day decision. Payton said he's a rare player that can miss practice & still play b/c of his intelligence.
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Sounds like he won't practice tommorow either. They are pretty thin at RB and really can't afford to just let him have a week off so I believe them when they say it is a Game Time Decision.Still playing through ankle injuries is never a good idea for running backs or wideouts. Chances of it get re-aggravated are probably about 50%.
 
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Would you think that Chris Ivory is more valuable in the short term than Ken Darby? I picked up Darby, but have a waiver claim in for Darren Sproles (PPR, someone dropped him)...so I'm wondering if maybe I should drop the claim for Sproles and grab Ivory instead.

 
solorca said:
Would you think that Chris Ivory is more valuable in the short term than Ken Darby? I picked up Darby, but have a waiver claim in for Darren Sproles (PPR, someone dropped him)...so I'm wondering if maybe I should drop the claim for Sproles and grab Ivory instead.
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I think they are all dicey. Ryan Torain if available is the running back with the most upside this week. I really don't think Ivory can carry the load and I would expect to see quite a bit of Betts if Thomas is out. Too early to tell if Jackson will play this week and Darby has no value if he does.
 
ThePittbully said:
gradin123 said:
solorca said:
Would you think that Chris Ivory is more valuable in the short term than Ken Darby? I picked up Darby, but have a waiver claim in for Darren Sproles (PPR, someone dropped him)...so I'm wondering if maybe I should drop the claim for Sproles and grab Ivory instead.
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I really don't think Ivory can carry the load
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What are you going off on that assumption?
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Maybe its his 6'0 222 lb frame. /sarcasm
 
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