Packer Draft - (1 Viewer)

[_4_]

Green Bay Packer Draft:

Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School

1 27 Meachem, Robert WR 6-3 211 Tennessee - Big receiver gives Favre Javon Walker back.

3 66 Young, Usama CB 5-11 186 Kent State - With both corners +30, this is a huge need pick.

3 88 Alleman, Andy G 6-4 302 Akron - Depth on the OL always a concern.

4 107 Pittman, Antonio RB 5-11 195 Ohio State - RB the Packers targeted - quick to the hole.

4 125 Bushrod, Jermon OT 6-4 315 Towson - Chad Clifton is showing signs of wear and tear.

5 145 Jones, David CB 6-0 196 Wingate - Bigger corner, possibly move to S replacing Manuel.

7 220 Mitchell, Marvin ILB 6-3 249 Tennessee - Special team gunner

Oh. That's New Orlean's draft. ####. Ted Thompson did blow it.

 

[Pipes]

Grading a draft before they even put on a Packer uniform is really stupid. I love how many fans (of all teams) over react after the draft.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Grading a draft before they even put on a Packer uniform is really stupid. I love how many fans (of all teams) over react after the draft.

Especially when it is these front office's livelihoods, yet fans seem to know more and are better at scouting as well.

 

[BoltBacker]

True, all those fans that were critical of Matt Millens drafts for years are looking pretty silly right now. Afterall, it's his proffesion, he's played the game and he has a team of scouts pouring over tape and actually talking to the players/coaches. To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

 

[uwgb96]

True, all those fans that were critical of Matt Millens drafts for years are looking pretty silly right now. Afterall, it's his proffesion, he's played the game and he has a team of scouts pouring over tape and actually talking to the players/coaches. To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

It's certainly ok to have a different opinion, but people are ready to jump off a cliff; ship the GM out of town; say he blew it; what the hell was he thinking, etc.I know it is unavoidable to play armchair GM, but it is asinine to even begin to decide whether a draft was successful until 2-3 years down the line.In this case, Thompson picked players he felt were good fits for the team. People are obviously going to disagree and that's ok, but enough is enough. Players that "draft experts" thought were 3rd round picks went undrafted (happens every year). Ben Patrick dropped like a stone and people were screaming for the Packers to take him. Thompson obviously felt he wasn't a good fit for the Packers (and for 6 rounds all 32 teams agreed). Players get picked in the 3rd round and people go nuts because some "draft experts" felt he was no better than a 5-6 round pick. Some GMs obviously disagreed.Face it, the draft is an in-exact science and to absolutely bash a draft is rediculous.

 

[BoltBacker]

True, all those fans that were critical of Matt Millens drafts for years are looking pretty silly right now. Afterall, it's his proffesion, he's played the game and he has a team of scouts pouring over tape and actually talking to the players/coaches. To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

It's certainly ok to have a different opinion, but people are ready to jump off a cliff; ship the GM out of town; say he blew it; what the hell was he thinking, etc.

No they aren't. There are TEN fans that feel like they blew an opportunity. That's it. I haven't heard of any TEN fans jumping off cliffs or even their Titan bandwagons. They wish their ball club would have gone a different direction with their selections.Just how long can we wait until we decide Millen blew it by drafting Mike Williams? A year? Two years? Tell us when it's ok to criticize the all-seeing oracles that run these teams. I've never understood the mentality that coaches/players/GM's are somehow above criticism by the lowly "common" fan. It's entertainment for crying out loud. Boo all you want Jets fans! Did they need another TE? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

 

[lions327]

True, all those fans that were critical of Matt Millens drafts for years are looking pretty silly right now. Afterall, it's his proffesion, he's played the game and he has a team of scouts pouring over tape and actually talking to the players/coaches. To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

 

[Big Score]

True, all those fans that were critical of Matt Millens drafts for years are looking pretty silly right now. Afterall, it's his proffesion, he's played the game and he has a team of scouts pouring over tape and actually talking to the players/coaches. To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

 

[Pipes]

True, all those fans that were critical of Matt Millens drafts for years are looking pretty silly right now. Afterall, it's his proffesion, he's played the game and he has a team of scouts pouring over tape and actually talking to the players/coaches. To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

Being critical after they've been on the field and shown they were bums is completely different that complaining before the first mini-camp. Thompson has done nothing to show he's anywhere near Millen's level so he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I think he knows what he's doing. Yeah if guys like Harrell and Jackson bomb out then we can certainly criticize Thompson but at this date (April 30th) it's WAY too early to do that.

 

[msommer]

No they aren't. There are TEN fans that feel like they blew an opportunity. That's it. I haven't heard of any TEN fans jumping off cliffs or even their Titan bandwagons. They wish their ball club would have gone a different direction with their selections.

Indeed - but that might be because the wagon has seatbelts, everyone is velcroed to their seats and the windows are really hard to open... Oh boy do I wish the Titans GM had gone in a different direction. But that is exactly what happemed in Buffalo last year and Whitner, Simpson, Greer and Youboty turned out to be fine - jury is still out on McCargo due to his injury.

I still hope to be proven wrong. It is not as if Floyd Reese didn't blow a few drafts....

 

[Zigg]

Green Bay Packer Draft:Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School1 27 Meachem, Robert WR 6-3 211 Tennessee - Big receiver gives Favre Javon Walker back.3 66 Young, Usama CB 5-11 186 Kent State - With both corners +30, this is a huge need pick.3 88 Alleman, Andy G 6-4 302 Akron - Depth on the OL always a concern.4 107 Pittman, Antonio RB 5-11 195 Ohio State - RB the Packers targeted - quick to the hole.4 125 Bushrod, Jermon OT 6-4 315 Towson - Chad Clifton is showing signs of wear and tear.5 145 Jones, David CB 6-0 196 Wingate - Bigger corner, possibly move to S replacing Manuel.7 220 Mitchell, Marvin ILB 6-3 249 Tennessee - Special team gunnerOh. That's New Orlean's draft. ####. Ted Thompson did blow it.

If it makes you feel better, some Saint fans are crying about these picks.

 

[sho nuff]

I don't think Thompson blew it.

Its not as if he drafted all chumps. The supposed value is where there are some question marks.

But Harrell is a solid DT and its obvious from his time in GB that Thompson is building up that defense. Rouse was another pick to do just that.

Jackson was a guy thought to fit the system and while it may have been a bit of a reach...we are talking several RBs with similar grades all thought to be going in that 2-3 round range.

His day 2 was very good IMO.

 

[Blood Farmer]

Grading a draft before they even put on a Packer uniform is really stupid.

Yes, we are really stupid. If we were not so we would not be frequenting a FANTASY FOOTBALL board. Everyone wants their team to win. Everyone wishes we were the one making the call but we are simply STUPID fantasy football board message posters. Well, actually some of us have pretty good jobs but we still are actually just frustrated GMs.If you don't want to see STUPID draft grades then you shouldn't read a fantasy football board in the days after a draft. Hmmmm, maybe we are the STUPID ones after all!!!

 

[H.K.]

To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

I looked it up online, but I can't find "asinten" in the dictiorary. Anyone know what it means?

 

[Q-Bert]

To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

I looked it up online, but I can't find "asinten" in the dictiorary. Anyone know what it means?

asinineasinten

ten is greater than nine

therefore asinten is even more crazy than asinine

 

[Kleck.]

Overall, Green Bay's draft does not look that exciting, but I don't think it was horrible either. Harrell and Barbre are my two favorite picks. I don't think Harrell was the reach some are making it out to be, and building their D-line should really help take some pressure off Barnett and Hawk. I also thought Barbre was a steal in the 4th. He gives the Packers a good depth guy that could possibly be able to fill in at any any of the four spots. Barbre also looks to be a great ZBS fit, and with some work could be a solid starter one day.

 

[redman]

To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

I looked it up online, but I can't find "asinten" in the dictiorary. Anyone know what it means?

asinineasinten

ten is greater than nine

therefore asinten is even more crazy than asinine

Q-Bert, it's times like these that I wonder what they're teaching our kids in school.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

True, all those fans that were critical of Matt Millens drafts for years are looking pretty silly right now. Afterall, it's his proffesion, he's played the game and he has a team of scouts pouring over tape and actually talking to the players/coaches. To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

It's certainly ok to have a different opinion, but people are ready to jump off a cliff; ship the GM out of town; say he blew it; what the hell was he thinking, etc.I know it is unavoidable to play armchair GM, but it is asinine to even begin to decide whether a draft was successful until 2-3 years down the line.In this case, Thompson picked players he felt were good fits for the team. People are obviously going to disagree and that's ok, but enough is enough. Players that "draft experts" thought were 3rd round picks went undrafted (happens every year). Ben Patrick dropped like a stone and people were screaming for the Packers to take him. Thompson obviously felt he wasn't a good fit for the Packers (and for 6 rounds all 32 teams agreed). Players get picked in the 3rd round and people go nuts because some "draft experts" felt he was no better than a 5-6 round pick. Some GMs obviously disagreed.Face it, the draft is an in-exact science and to absolutely bash a draft is rediculous.

 

[H.K.]

To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

I looked it up online, but I can't find "asinten" in the dictiorary. Anyone know what it means?

asinineasinten

ten is greater than nine

therefore asinten is even more crazy than asinine

Ah, but these go to eleven, which is one louder than ten....(btw - thanks for the response, I never heard that expression before)

 

[_4_]

The point of my original post is that the Saints seemed to be drafting with the Packer's needs in mind. It does not take a rocket surgeon to determine that that Packers needed a big, fast WR (Driver and Jennings are both smallish and K. Robinson can't be counted on). Clifton has been a concern for 2 years (overall depth on the OL is a key). While Jackson may be ok, getting Pittman in the 4th was a far better value. And finally any analysis of the Packers by anyone worth respecting commented on the fact that the CBs are both old and vulnerable to injury as a result. There is NO viable backup on the roster.

My point being that TT "stuck to his guns" on BPA (one area the Packers DIDN'T need anyone was DL - they have 8 solid guys there already), but in the long run I am betting he erred severely.

 

[Aaronstory]

Grading a draft before they even put on a Packer uniform is really stupid. I love how many fans (of all teams) over react after the draft.

 

[larry_boy_44]

To have an opinion that differs from his would be asinine. Asinten even.

I looked it up online, but I can't find "asinten" in the dictiorary. Anyone know what it means?

asinineasinten

ten is greater than nine

therefore asinten is even more crazy than asinine

shouldn't it be "asiten"??? I mean, I don't see what "ten" has to do with "ine"...

 

[FavreCo]

Thompson's pick of Brandon Jackson was excellent. I think they missed on Kevin Boss bigtime as did the Seahawks who are going now with a old Pollard and nothing else. Huge mistake. The Giants were one of the few teams to bring him in for a visit and scooped him up real cheap.

Defense 1st pick? Good move. I don't know about the guy they picked. We'll see. Meachem would not do much for them this year. Favre really could have used Moss but he wants a super bowl and that ain't happening this year for Green Bay. The Jones pick at WR was not bad. He will compete for the #3 against Martin. Ferguson can play special teams but should not see an offensive snap as he blows.

 

[sho nuff]

Thompson's pick of Brandon Jackson was excellent. I think they missed on Kevin Boss bigtime as did the Seahawks who are going now with a old Pollard and nothing else. Huge mistake. The Giants were one of the few teams to bring him in for a visit and scooped him up real cheap. Defense 1st pick? Good move. I don't know about the guy they picked. We'll see. Meachem would not do much for them this year. Favre really could have used Moss but he wants a super bowl and that ain't happening this year for Green Bay. The Jones pick at WR was not bad. He will compete for the #3 against Martin. Ferguson can play special teams but should not see an offensive snap as he blows.

I think Ferguson is gone. And Id put Holliday ahead of Martin based on what I saw down the stretch last year.I think Clowney ends up the #3 before Jones does.

 

[Kleck.]

I think Clowney ends up the #3 before Jones does.

I'm not that high on Clowney, but in the right situations I could see his speed getting him some early playing time.Jones went a round earlier than I thought he would, but I also didn't really spend any time looking at him until the pick was made. I like his toughness, but he's still pretty raw. I see him being more of a Driver replacement or playing a similar roll so he could have to wait a few years.

 

[uwgb96]

Overall, Green Bay's draft does not look that exciting, but I don't think it was horrible either.

Which is right up Thompson's alley. He doesn't make the "exciting" pick, he makes the "solid" pick.You're a knowledgeable Packer poster Kleck, so I'm not singling you out, but many are jumping on Thompson because he passed on guys that were highly "rated". He's not out there looking for the "name" guy and blockbuster move. He's looking for ways to make this team better and pick guys that fit the scheme and philosophy.

Many also think he is out to sabotage Favre. What the hell does he have to gain by that? He is definitely looking out for what is best for the team and not Favre, but his job is also on the line if he doesn't do well.

 

[FavreCo]

Overall, Green Bay's draft does not look that exciting, but I don't think it was horrible either.

Which is right up Thompson's alley. He doesn't make the "exciting" pick, he makes the "solid" pick.You're a knowledgeable Packer poster Kleck, so I'm not singling you out, but many are jumping on Thompson because he passed on guys that were highly "rated". He's not out there looking for the "name" guy and blockbuster move. He's looking for ways to make this team better and pick guys that fit the scheme and philosophy.

Many also think he is out to sabotage Favre. What the hell does he have to gain by that? He is definitely looking out for what is best for the team and not Favre, but his job is also on the line if he doesn't do well.

I was all over Thompson's #### last year for not taking Chad Jackson. I was dead wrong on that one as Jennings was a far better pick. And yes, Holliday is the other guy that could take the #3 spot. He did play well.

 

[Kleck.]

Overall, Green Bay's draft does not look that exciting, but I don't think it was horrible either.

Which is right up Thompson's alley. He doesn't make the "exciting" pick, he makes the "solid" pick.You're a knowledgeable Packer poster Kleck, so I'm not singling you out, but many are jumping on Thompson because he passed on guys that were highly "rated". He's not out there looking for the "name" guy and blockbuster move. He's looking for ways to make this team better and pick guys that fit the scheme and philosophy.

Many also think he is out to sabotage Favre. What the hell does he have to gain by that? He is definitely looking out for what is best for the team and not Favre, but his job is also on the line if he doesn't do well.

You're exactly right, and I didn't mean for it to come off in a bad way. I don't think we'll ever see an "exciting/big name" draft from TT. But like you said, we'll see guys that fit the system and as long as the team keeps improving I won't argue against it. Last year's draft, besides Hawk, wasn't anything too exciting either and I'm thrilled with it now. The more I look at this year's draft, the more I get that similar feeling from last year.

 

[BostonSportsGuy]

Grading a draft before they even put on a Packer uniform is really stupid. I love how many fans (of all teams) over react after the draft.

100% agree. Last year, one of my friends (die-hard Bears fan) was berating Chicago's draft. Let's just say he's happy with it now.

 

[switz]

Green Bay Packer Draft:Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School1 27 Meachem, Robert WR 6-3 211 Tennessee - Big receiver gives Favre Javon Walker back.3 66 Young, Usama CB 5-11 186 Kent State - With both corners +30, this is a huge need pick.3 88 Alleman, Andy G 6-4 302 Akron - Depth on the OL always a concern.4 107 Pittman, Antonio RB 5-11 195 Ohio State - RB the Packers targeted - quick to the hole.4 125 Bushrod, Jermon OT 6-4 315 Towson - Chad Clifton is showing signs of wear and tear.5 145 Jones, David CB 6-0 196 Wingate - Bigger corner, possibly move to S replacing Manuel.7 220 Mitchell, Marvin ILB 6-3 249 Tennessee - Special team gunnerOh. That's New Orlean's draft. ####. Ted Thompson did blow it.

If it makes you feel better, some Saint fans are crying about these picks.

WHY? The Saints had a solid draft. They didn't address defense, but I think they felt that the defense wasn't going to improve vastly through one draft, so shore up the offense, and go defense over the next couple years.

 

[mr. furley]

Grading a draft before they even put on a Packer uniform is really stupid. I love how many fans (of all teams) over react after the draft.

nobody knows anything yet. give it time.

 

[gruecd]

Grading a draft before they even put on a Packer uniform is really stupid. I love how many fans (of all teams) over react after the draft.

nobody knows anything yet. give it time.

What I do know is that if I was Brett Favre, I'd tell TT that since it's obvious you don't want to do anything to help me, I'm retiring today, and good luck with your "rebuilding."And I still refuse to believe that Randy Moss wouldn't have restructured his contract to play with Brett Favre in GB. We give Oakland our third-round pick, and he's ours. But I guess we feel better with James Jones.

 

[_4_]

Grading a draft before they even put on a Packer uniform is really stupid. I love how many fans (of all teams) over react after the draft.

nobody knows anything yet. give it time.

I created a thread addressing this "I am really smart, I don't have an opinion" mentality.

 

[trader jake]

I'll try and add a bit more substance here

Overall I felt Ted Thompson worked the draft well and selected solid players. You guys know I'm a cheerleader for our 1st round pick so I'm probably much happier than others who weren't down with him. I'm a bit disappointed that TT didn't take some shots with players day 2 at positions that we could use some depth, specifically cornerback. Hopefully the 2007 draft doesn't become known as 'the red flag draft'...a lot of these guys have injury issues that dropped them. If Justin Harrell and Brandon Jackson start and/or make big contributions week 1 I'll be pleased.

Here are some of my specific takes on the Packers 2007 draft class.

THE DIFFERENCE MAKER?...

1-16 DT Justin Harrell A-

I love this pick. Games are won in the trenches and he can be our runstopper for years to come. The Pack has invested a lot of money in AJ Hawk and Nick Barnett...this pick can help get the most out of them. Of course, the injury risk with him can not be ignored but I do like his background and motor.

NEED TO START...

2-63 RB Brandon Jackson B-

Jackson has some fresh legs and played college ball at Nebraska where they run the same zone blocking scheme we do. All of the Nebraska message board honks say we'll love this guy. The one thing I read over and over: he works his ### off. I'm down with Thompson getting the RB that was right for us...and he added some additional picks by moving down.

BUILD YOUR TEAM AROUND THESE GUYS...

3-78 WR James Jones C+

At this point I'm assuming TT knew that the Pack were not going to land Randy Moss via trade. When I saw this pick (on tape at 3 in the morning) I was not pleased because of that. However, Mel Kiper Jr. said that a few teams were going to be very disappointed because they were really hoping he fell to the end of round 3. The write up on him sounds just like Greg Jennings did last year. Measurables may not all be there but on the field he gets the job done.

3-89 S Aaron Rouse D-

The Packers need at safety is the only thing saving this grade from F territory. I HATE this ####### pick. He has everything to be a great NFL player except the heart. Guys that that are worthless because that tells me that he gives up or doesn't put in the work necessary to get better. "Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" is a quote from one of the scouts the Milwaukee J-S talked with. Ouch.

4-119 T/G Allen Barbre B

Big fan of this selection. He could be a back-up T this season behind our aging veterans while he learns the ropes of the NFL and adds some strength. He has experience in our scheme and sounds like a gamer. It's not like you can say a 4th round pick will be a stud but I really like Barbre's chances of being a solid pro in Green Bay.

MAKE THE TEAM AND CONTRIBUTE...

5-157 WR David Clowney C

The guy has speed to burn and can play special teams and possibly stretch the field in certain formations. He's a project and too often potential doesn't end up as production. Decent boom or bust pick. He got off the line in college but can he do so at the next level?

6-191 LB/FB? Korey Hall D+

Not a fan of this pick. He has some nice wheels but he doesn't have the other measurables to be a difference maker at LB. I've read that TT may even view him as a fullback but experienced FB's are cheap. The best college FB's can be drafted on the second day so why take a chance on a positional change? He better contribute on special teams from Day 1.

6-192 LB Desmond Bishop C

This guy seems like a MLB with some attitude. I've read he's a high character and effort guy so I have no problem with the selection. Didn't we get a better version of this type of player last year with Abdul Hodge? I guess I just don't get the LB selections back-to-back in the 6th when we should have taken a chance on some secondary players.

6-193 K Mason Crosby B-

The scouts love him. They also loved Brett Conway. A 6th round pick for the best kicker available is fine...if he doesn't work out I'm cool with Dave Raynor.

ROLLIN' THE DICE...

7-228 RB DeShawn Wynn C+

The guy has some ability but he also has the poor attitude to match. If he comes in and gets his Goose On we can just cut his ###. If he views this as his last real opportunity maybe we'll have a guy who can contribute in our RBBC. Worth a shot.

7-243 TE Clark Harris C-

We had to take a TE, right? This guy doesn't have the measurables and doesn't seem like a gamer. I'm down with the players from Rutgers because they buy in and think team. This guy better or he'll be cut after the Green & Gold scrimmage.

Thoughts?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

My concerns with the draft are:

1. I don't care how good Harrell is the Packers had more pressing needs to address. Leon Hall would have been a great pick there.

2. I don't like trading down in the second round when Irons, Henry, and Steve Smith were still on the board. I live in Lincoln and follow the Huskers. Jackson doesn't impress me.

3. James Jones was a HUGE reach.

4. Why didn' they take Ben Patrick, the TE from Delaware, with one of their 3 picks in the 6th round?

 

[BLOX]

I'll try and add a bit more substance here

Overall I felt Ted Thompson worked the draft well and selected solid players. You guys know I'm a cheerleader for our 1st round pick so I'm probably much happier than others who weren't down with him. I'm a bit disappointed that TT didn't take some shots with players day 2 at positions that we could use some depth, specifically cornerback. Hopefully the 2007 draft doesn't become known as 'the red flag draft'...a lot of these guys have injury issues that dropped them. If Justin Harrell and Brandon Jackson start and/or make big contributions week 1 I'll be pleased.

Here are some of my specific takes on the Packers 2007 draft class.

THE DIFFERENCE MAKER?...

1-16 DT Justin Harrell A-

I love this pick. Games are won in the trenches and he can be our runstopper for years to come. The Pack has invested a lot of money in AJ Hawk and Nick Barnett...this pick can help get the most out of them. Of course, the injury risk with him can not be ignored but I do like his background and motor.

NEED TO START...

2-63 RB Brandon Jackson B-

Jackson has some fresh legs and played college ball at Nebraska where they run the same zone blocking scheme we do. All of the Nebraska message board honks say we'll love this guy. The one thing I read over and over: he works his ### off. I'm down with Thompson getting the RB that was right for us...and he added some additional picks by moving down.

BUILD YOUR TEAM AROUND THESE GUYS...

3-78 WR James Jones C+

At this point I'm assuming TT knew that the Pack were not going to land Randy Moss via trade. When I saw this pick (on tape at 3 in the morning) I was not pleased because of that. However, Mel Kiper Jr. said that a few teams were going to be very disappointed because they were really hoping he fell to the end of round 3. The write up on him sounds just like Greg Jennings did last year. Measurables may not all be there but on the field he gets the job done.

3-89 S Aaron Rouse D-

The Packers need at safety is the only thing saving this grade from F territory. I HATE this ####### pick. He has everything to be a great NFL player except the heart. Guys that that are worthless because that tells me that he gives up or doesn't put in the work necessary to get better. "Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" is a quote from one of the scouts the Milwaukee J-S talked with. Ouch.

4-119 T/G Allen Barbre B

Big fan of this selection. He could be a back-up T this season behind our aging veterans while he learns the ropes of the NFL and adds some strength. He has experience in our scheme and sounds like a gamer. It's not like you can say a 4th round pick will be a stud but I really like Barbre's chances of being a solid pro in Green Bay.

MAKE THE TEAM AND CONTRIBUTE...

5-157 WR David Clowney C

The guy has speed to burn and can play special teams and possibly stretch the field in certain formations. He's a project and too often potential doesn't end up as production. Decent boom or bust pick. He got off the line in college but can he do so at the next level?

6-191 LB/FB? Korey Hall D+

Not a fan of this pick. He has some nice wheels but he doesn't have the other measurables to be a difference maker at LB. I've read that TT may even view him as a fullback but experienced FB's are cheap. The best college FB's can be drafted on the second day so why take a chance on a positional change? He better contribute on special teams from Day 1.

6-192 LB Desmond Bishop C

This guy seems like a MLB with some attitude. I've read he's a high character and effort guy so I have no problem with the selection. Didn't we get a better version of this type of player last year with Abdul Hodge? I guess I just don't get the LB selections back-to-back in the 6th when we should have taken a chance on some secondary players.

6-193 K Mason Crosby B-

The scouts love him. They also loved Brett Conway. A 6th round pick for the best kicker available is fine...if he doesn't work out I'm cool with Dave Raynor.

ROLLIN' THE DICE...

7-228 RB DeShawn Wynn C+

The guy has some ability but he also has the poor attitude to match. If he comes in and gets his Goose On we can just cut his ###. If he views this as his last real opportunity maybe we'll have a guy who can contribute in our RBBC. Worth a shot.

7-243 TE Clark Harris C-

We had to take a TE, right? This guy doesn't have the measurables and doesn't seem like a gamer. I'm down with the players from Rutgers because they buy in and think team. This guy better or he'll be cut after the Green & Gold scrimmage.

Thoughts?

I agree with most of your thoughts, but I think that Harris can turn into a beast at TE. It's not necessarily a position where you need a lot of speed although it would help. Harris is a huge TE and with a little coaching can learn to focus more on his receiving and blocking skills. If he learns to block in training camp he'll make the final roster for sure.Hall won't be our FB1 in Septemer, but he will be our special teams ace which is where I think Thompson was going with this pick.

Jackson and Barbre are perfect fits for the zone blocking scheme and I think both could start immediately. Obviously Barbre won't, but he will be our 3rd or 4th OT with Moll and I'm very happy with that. Jackson is very underrated right now, but after September Packer fans will begin calling him the SOD. (Have to update my sig. I love Morency, but Jackson makes so much more sense.)

Bishop is basically a run-stopping LB. He's a high-motor guy and will likely be our reserve OLB behind Poppinga.

I think Harrell and Pickett will make one of the better run-stopping middles in the NFL.

 

[uwgb96]

My concerns with the draft are:1. I don't care how good Harrell is the Packers had more pressing needs to address. Leon Hall would have been a great pick there. 2. I don't like trading down in the second round when Irons, Henry, and Steve Smith were still on the board. I live in Lincoln and follow the Huskers. Jackson doesn't impress me.3. James Jones was a HUGE reach. 4. Why didn' they take Ben Patrick, the TE from Delaware, with one of their 3 picks in the 6th round?

1. Thompson felt Harrell was a Top 10 pick. When need and BPA match (like last year with Hawk) so be it, otherwise I am content with taking BPA.2. I wanted him to trade down MORE. The jury is certainly out on Jackson, but there are obviously far from any guarantees with Irons or Henry either. They obviously felt that Jackson was a good fit.3. HUGE reach to you maybe, but apparently other teams had their eye on him and Thompson obviously likes him (seems like he made a good decision with Jennings last year).4. It's quite obvious that he was more the product of draftnik hype than any supposed value to actual NFL teams. As you mention, Thompson had EVERY opportunity to take him in the 6th and passed, so it is pretty obvious that he didn't feel like he was a good fit.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

My concerns with the draft are:1. I don't care how good Harrell is the Packers had more pressing needs to address. Leon Hall would have been a great pick there. 2. I don't like trading down in the second round when Irons, Henry, and Steve Smith were still on the board. I live in Lincoln and follow the Huskers. Jackson doesn't impress me.3. James Jones was a HUGE reach. 4. Why didn' they take Ben Patrick, the TE from Delaware, with one of their 3 picks in the 6th round?

1. Thompson felt Harrell was a Top 10 pick. When need and BPA match (like last year with Hawk) so be it, otherwise I am content with taking BPA.2. I wanted him to trade down MORE. The jury is certainly out on Jackson, but there are obviously far from any guarantees with Irons or Henry either. They obviously felt that Jackson was a good fit.3. HUGE reach to you maybe, but apparently other teams had their eye on him and Thompson obviously likes him (seems like he made a good decision with Jennings last year).4. It's quite obvious that he was more the product of draftnik hype than any supposed value to actual NFL teams. As you mention, Thompson had EVERY opportunity to take him in the 6th and passed, so it is pretty obvious that he didn't feel like he was a good fit.

Thanks for the obvious remarks on Thompson. Of course he felt like you indicated.....that is why he drafted as he did.

 

[Pipes]

My concerns with the draft are:1. I don't care how good Harrell is the Packers had more pressing needs to address. Leon Hall would have been a great pick there. 2. I don't like trading down in the second round when Irons, Henry, and Steve Smith were still on the board. I live in Lincoln and follow the Huskers. Jackson doesn't impress me.3. James Jones was a HUGE reach. 4. Why didn' they take Ben Patrick, the TE from Delaware, with one of their 3 picks in the 6th round?

1. Thompson felt Harrell was a Top 10 pick. When need and BPA match (like last year with Hawk) so be it, otherwise I am content with taking BPA.2. I wanted him to trade down MORE. The jury is certainly out on Jackson, but there are obviously far from any guarantees with Irons or Henry either. They obviously felt that Jackson was a good fit.3. HUGE reach to you maybe, but apparently other teams had their eye on him and Thompson obviously likes him (seems like he made a good decision with Jennings last year).4. It's quite obvious that he was more the product of draftnik hype than any supposed value to actual NFL teams. As you mention, Thompson had EVERY opportunity to take him in the 6th and passed, so it is pretty obvious that he didn't feel like he was a good fit.

Thanks for the obvious remarks on Thompson. Of course he felt like you indicated.....that is why he drafted as he did.

Jeez...what's up with the snippy Packer fans? -4- is going off the deep end, Flavved is ultra-sensative to someone countering his tirade. Lighten up people!

 

[PsychoMan]

My concerns with the draft are:1. I don't care how good Harrell is the Packers had more pressing needs to address. Leon Hall would have been a great pick there. 2. I don't like trading down in the second round when Irons, Henry, and Steve Smith were still on the board. I live in Lincoln and follow the Huskers. Jackson doesn't impress me.3. James Jones was a HUGE reach. 4. Why didn' they take Ben Patrick, the TE from Delaware, with one of their 3 picks in the 6th round?

1. Thompson felt Harrell was a Top 10 pick. When need and BPA match (like last year with Hawk) so be it, otherwise I am content with taking BPA.2. I wanted him to trade down MORE. The jury is certainly out on Jackson, but there are obviously far from any guarantees with Irons or Henry either. They obviously felt that Jackson was a good fit.3. HUGE reach to you maybe, but apparently other teams had their eye on him and Thompson obviously likes him (seems like he made a good decision with Jennings last year).4. It's quite obvious that he was more the product of draftnik hype than any supposed value to actual NFL teams. As you mention, Thompson had EVERY opportunity to take him in the 6th and passed, so it is pretty obvious that he didn't feel like he was a good fit.

Thanks for the obvious remarks on Thompson. Of course he felt like you indicated.....that is why he drafted as he did.

ohhhhh sNAP!

 

[ookook]

Personally, I wanted to see more emphasis on future CB and S. There was too much depth in the draft in the defensive secondary to just ignore, but okay.

DT was certainly important. What round to address it is open to opinion.

Eric Wright in the 2nd would have been nice. Somehow getting Chris Houston early in the 2nd would have been ideal.

For example, they could have traded out of 16, taken Houston in early 2nd along with Turk McBride later in 2nd.

Could still take Michael Bush or Pittman with late 3rd. Even Hunt.

I see both Jackson and Jones as stretches; there were better players available and similar (or the same) would have been available later. They lost value on those picks.

 

[Sidewinder]

Green Bay Packer Draft:Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School1 27 Meachem, Robert WR 6-3 211 Tennessee - Big receiver gives Favre Javon Walker back.3 66 Young, Usama CB 5-11 186 Kent State - With both corners +30, this is a huge need pick.3 88 Alleman, Andy G 6-4 302 Akron - Depth on the OL always a concern.4 107 Pittman, Antonio RB 5-11 195 Ohio State - RB the Packers targeted - quick to the hole.4 125 Bushrod, Jermon OT 6-4 315 Towson - Chad Clifton is showing signs of wear and tear.5 145 Jones, David CB 6-0 196 Wingate - Bigger corner, possibly move to S replacing Manuel.7 220 Mitchell, Marvin ILB 6-3 249 Tennessee - Special team gunnerOh. That's New Orlean's draft. ####. Ted Thompson did blow it.

If it makes you feel better, some Saint fans are crying about these picks.

WHY? The Saints had a solid draft. They didn't address defense, but I think they felt that the defense wasn't going to improve vastly through one draft, so shore up the offense, and go defense over the next couple years.

Meh, the only Saint fans moaning about this draft are the ones who are perpetual complainers anyway.Defense was significantly addressed in F/A with Simmons, Kaesviharn, and David, plus resigning Thomas and Shanle, and getting Grant long-term. And the reality is they were not a bad defense last year: 11th overall in points allowed, 13th in total yards allowed (may have those switched, but you get the point), and 4th in first downs allowed.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

In the two previous drafts with the Packers, Thompson hasn't impressed me one bit. His mid to late round selections haven't worked out well and the 2005 draft class is hardly impressive at this point.

2005-

Aaron Rodgers

Nick Collins

Terrence Murphy

Brady Poppinga

Junius Coston

Mike Hawkins

Mike Montgomery

Criag Bragg

Kurt Campbell

Will Whitticker

2006-

A.J. Hawk

Daryn Colledge

Greg Jennings

Abdul Hodge

Jason Spitz

Cory Rodgers

Will Blackmon

Ingle Martin

Tony Moll

John Jolly

Tyrone Culver

Dave Tollefson

 

[ookook]

What will the Packers do with the salary cap they have remaining?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

What will the Packers do with the salary cap they have remaining?

Probably not much.

 

[packersfan]

What will the Packers do with the salary cap they have remaining?

401K

 

[Kleck.]

April 30, 2007, 08:13 Packers :: QB, OL, LBPackers Sign Three Undrafted Free AgentsTodd Rosiak, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel - [Full Article]The Green Bay Packers have come to terms with LB Rory Johnson from Mississippi. Johnson played beside Patrick Willis in college. The Packers have also signed Pat Murray, a 6'3", 315 pound OG from Truman State and Jerry Babb, a 6'2.5" QB from Louisisna-Lafayette.

Camp bodies. Kind of surprised they didn't run out and add a few more TEs right away.

 

[Aaronstory]

What will the Packers do with the salary cap they have remaining?

Probably not much.

They'll extend one or two contracts during the season, if anyone emerges like they did with Jenkins.

 

[kwille]

In the two previous drafts with the Packers, Thompson hasn't impressed me one bit. His mid to late round selections haven't worked out well and the 2005 draft class is hardly impressive at this point.

2005-

Aaron Rodgers #2 QB

Nick Collins Starter

Terrence Murphy looked very promising before career ending injury

Brady Poppinga Starter

Junius Coston reserve

Mike Hawkins cut

Mike Montgomery reserve

Criag Bragg cut

Kurt Campbell cut

Will Whitticker cut

2006-

A.J. Hawk Starter

Daryn Colledge Starter

Greg Jennings Starter

Abdul Hodge reserve

Jason Spitz Starter

Cory Rodgers cut

Will Blackmon reserve

Ingle Martin reserve

Tony Moll reserve

John Jolly reserve

Tyrone Culver reserve

Dave Tollefson cut

By my count thats 15 players from the last two drafts that are contributors including 6 that are every-down starters. I would say that is pretty damn good. Spectacular? No. But if 7 or 8 of the 2007 class make the team, the Packers will have a deep, solid, and young core.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

In the two previous drafts with the Packers, Thompson hasn't impressed me one bit. His mid to late round selections haven't worked out well and the 2005 draft class is hardly impressive at this point.

2005-

Aaron Rodgers #2 QB

Nick Collins Starter

Terrence Murphy looked very promising before career ending injury

Brady Poppinga Starter

Junius Coston reserve

Mike Hawkins cut

Mike Montgomery reserve

Criag Bragg cut

Kurt Campbell cut

Will Whitticker cut

2006-

A.J. Hawk Starter

Daryn Colledge Starter

Greg Jennings Starter

Abdul Hodge reserve

Jason Spitz Starter

Cory Rodgers cut

Will Blackmon reserve

Ingle Martin reserve

Tony Moll reserve

John Jolly reserve

Tyrone Culver reserve

Dave Tollefson cut

By my count thats 15 players from the last two drafts that are contributors including 6 that are every-down starters. I would say that is pretty damn good. Spectacular? No. But if 7 or 8 of the 2007 class make the team, the Packers will have a deep, solid, and young core.

Just by being on the roster doesn't mean they are "contributors". My point was that TT hasn't had any "hits" yet on his later round picks.