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Packer Players say Walker is out of bounds (1 Viewer)

http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/index.php?ntid=76040

While most of Javon Walker's current Green Bay Packers teammates were taking a keep-me-out-of-it approach to the recalcitrant wide receiver's demand for a trade, veteran fullback William Henderson and second-year quarterback Aaron Rodgers didn't toe the company line.

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I don't know what's going on with Javon, but I'm sure he'll be here. He better be here - if I have to get on the phone and say, 'Hey, c'mon now . . .' " Rodgers said. "I think he wants to get paid. We all want to get paid. He signed a contract though, so when it comes down to it, he'll fulfill it.

"Javon just wants what's best for him and his family, and he's a great receiver. But at the same time, he signed a contract. I don't want to comment too much. I think he'll be here. I'm going to be here, everybody under contract is going to be here, so we'll see what happens."

Henderson said he wants to talk to Walker "just as a big brother talking to a little brother" about his claim he'd rather retire than suit up for the Packers.

"I've seen many guys who asked to go elsewhere or felt this wasn't the place for them for whatever reason, and as soon as they had a chance to see what the life was like with a different team, they quickly found that those dreams and aspirations ... have fallen well short of what they already had in front of them here," Henderson said. "Basically, I would say the grass isn't always greener.



"I would just encourage (Walker) to really think about what he's doing. Don't ever burn bridges."

Barnett, the Packers' first-round draft pick in 2003, joked unlike Walker, the team's No. 1 pick in 2002, he would "like to stay here."

But Barnett said he didn't think general manager Ted Thompson would allow the Walker situation to get out of hand as cornerback Mike McKenzie's holdout did in 2003 for then-coach and GM Mike Sherman.

"With the coaching staff that we've got and Ted Thompson, I don't think it's going to be a distraction for the team. It could get ugly between those two, but we're not going to let it be a distraction," Barnett said. "We're not going to let anybody into our circle of trust. We're not going to let anybody pull us apart."

For that reason, retired general manager Ron Wolf said he believes Thompson is doing the right thing by not entertaining Walker's demands.

Thompson issued a statement Friday the team would not make "any concessions in this matter" and it expects Walker to honor his contract.

"You're always going to have disgruntled employees. I think you let time run its course," Wolf said. "As an administrator, you become an ostrich. You put your head in the sand and hopefully the whole thing passes by. If it doesn't, then you deal with it when you have to deal with it. But it's really not important right now."

 
http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/index.php?ntid=76040

While most of Javon Walker's current Green Bay Packers teammates were taking a keep-me-out-of-it approach to the recalcitrant wide receiver's demand for a trade, veteran fullback William Henderson and second-year quarterback Aaron Rodgers didn't toe the company line.

"

I don't know what's going on with Javon, but I'm sure he'll be here. He better be here - if I have to get on the phone and say, 'Hey, c'mon now . . .' " Rodgers said. "I think he wants to get paid. We all want to get paid. He signed a contract though, so when it comes down to it, he'll fulfill it.

"Javon just wants what's best for him and his family, and he's a great receiver. But at the same time, he signed a contract. I don't want to comment too much. I think he'll be here. I'm going to be here, everybody under contract is going to be here, so we'll see what happens."

Henderson said he wants to talk to Walker "just as a big brother talking to a little brother" about his claim he'd rather retire than suit up for the Packers.

"I've seen many guys who asked to go elsewhere or felt this wasn't the place for them for whatever reason, and as soon as they had a chance to see what the life was like with a different team, they quickly found that those dreams and aspirations ... have fallen well short of what they already had in front of them here," Henderson said. "Basically, I would say the grass isn't always greener.



"I would just encourage (Walker) to really think about what he's doing. Don't ever burn bridges."

Barnett, the Packers' first-round draft pick in 2003, joked unlike Walker, the team's No. 1 pick in 2002, he would "like to stay here."

But Barnett said he didn't think general manager Ted Thompson would allow the Walker situation to get out of hand as cornerback Mike McKenzie's holdout did in 2003 for then-coach and GM Mike Sherman.

"With the coaching staff that we've got and Ted Thompson, I don't think it's going to be a distraction for the team. It could get ugly between those two, but we're not going to let it be a distraction," Barnett said. "We're not going to let anybody into our circle of trust. We're not going to let anybody pull us apart."

For that reason, retired general manager Ron Wolf said he believes Thompson is doing the right thing by not entertaining Walker's demands.

Thompson issued a statement Friday the team would not make "any concessions in this matter" and it expects Walker to honor his contract.

"You're always going to have disgruntled employees. I think you let time run its course," Wolf said. "As an administrator, you become an ostrich. You put your head in the sand and hopefully the whole thing passes by. If it doesn't, then you deal with it when you have to deal with it. But it's really not important right now."
I'm guessing this will somehow be Favre's fault. :popcorn:
 
Loved Henderson's comments...just another reason to love that guy. Gets overlooked year in and year out for what he does for the Packers (not by the team mind you). They keep thinking they may need to replace him from time to time (Luchey, Leach)...but he keeps making big plays and showing he is a leader for the team.

I wish we had a roster full of guys like Henderson.

 
I'm sure taking crap from the unproven 2nd year QB will make Walker want to come back even more. He was clearly furious with Favre's comments and he's the face of the fanchise. Rodgers should've kept his trap shut. I'm fine with Henderson talking, he's earned that right.

 
When the dust settles I expect Walker and Favre to hook up 90 times for 1350 yards and 10 T.D.'s this year.
Really?When the storm is over, I expect Walker to be catchin' McNabb passes while Favre watched Pack games from his couch.

 
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Walker is gone and Favre should retire and quit playing this game with Pack fans. How is Favre helping the team by not letting them now whats going on. They are both wrong and gone! :rant:

 
this is probably a good time for Aaron Rodgers to keep his mouth shut
:thumbup: I thought the same thing when I read the article. Why is this guy even commenting on this issue? Idiot.

 
walker is going to do what keenan mccardell did in tampa two years ago

 
This isn't to say Walker isn't an idiot for making public demands like this...because he is...but what are the other Packer players thinking getting in the middle of this? Favre caught some flack for breaking the 'players' code' and getting involved in the financial affairs of another player last season. Walker has publicly admonished those statements. Why would Henderson or, for god's sake, Aaron freaking Rodgers try to get involved here. Toe the company line. "That's Javon's business. I'm going to let Javon and the Packers management work it out. We have a great organization here, it's an honor for anybody to be a part of." It's not that hard.

 
I'm sure taking crap from the unproven 2nd year QB will make Walker want to come back even more. He was clearly furious with Favre's comments and he's the face of the fanchise. Rodgers should've kept his trap shut. I'm fine with Henderson talking, he's earned that right.
Then that means you were okay with what Favre said last offseason, correct?
 
I'm sure taking crap from the unproven 2nd year QB will make Walker want to come back even more. He was clearly furious with Favre's comments and he's the face of the fanchise. Rodgers should've kept his trap shut. I'm fine with Henderson talking, he's earned that right.
Then that means you were okay with what Favre said last offseason, correct?
If Walker was 'clearly furious' with Favre's comments...then Henderson knew full well what his comments would mean to Walker. This is speculation...but it sure sounds like Javon isn't very well liked by the other players (or the GBay fans at this point). NFL players don't talk like that about each other if they are on good terms.
 
this is probably a good time for Aaron Rodgers to keep his mouth shut
:thumbup: I thought the same thing when I read the article. Why is this guy even commenting on this issue? Idiot.
Because he may be his QB?
First: I doubt that he is the starting QB. Second: There is a history here and Rogers is just coming off his 1st year (spend on the pine). It is one thing for Farve to stick his nose in other players contract situations, but ARogers does not get that latitude. No way.

 
I'm sure taking crap from the unproven 2nd year QB will make Walker want to come back even more.  He was clearly furious with Favre's comments and he's the face of the fanchise.  Rodgers should've kept his trap shut.  I'm fine with Henderson talking, he's earned that right.
Then that means you were okay with what Favre said last offseason, correct?
If Walker was 'clearly furious' with Favre's comments...then Henderson knew full well what his comments would mean to Walker. This is speculation...but it sure sounds like Javon isn't very well liked by the other players (or the GBay fans at this point). NFL players don't talk like that about each other if they are on good terms.
Exactly what I was thinking. And all you have to do is look at Aaron Kampan as an example of what happens in Green Bay if you do things the right way.
 
This isn't to say Walker isn't an idiot for making public demands like this...because he is...but what are the other Packer players thinking getting in the middle of this? Favre caught some flack for breaking the 'players' code' and getting involved in the financial affairs of another player last season. Walker has publicly admonished those statements. Why would Henderson or, for god's sake, Aaron freaking Rodgers try to get involved here. Toe the company line. "That's Javon's business. I'm going to let Javon and the Packers management work it out. We have a great organization here, it's an honor for anybody to be a part of." It's not that hard.
Did you read what Henderson even said?And I applaud them for saying something...F this belief that the team should not talk...it is their careers he could be screwing up as well.

 
This isn't to say Walker isn't an idiot for making public demands like this...because he is...but what are the other Packer players thinking getting in the middle of this? Favre caught some flack for breaking the 'players' code' and getting involved in the financial affairs of another player last season. Walker has publicly admonished those statements. Why would Henderson or, for god's sake, Aaron freaking Rodgers try to get involved here. Toe the company line. "That's Javon's business. I'm going to let Javon and the Packers management work it out. We have a great organization here, it's an honor for anybody to be a part of." It's not that hard.
Did you read what Henderson even said?And I applaud them for saying something...F this belief that the team should not talk...it is their careers he could be screwing up as well.
I don't applaud them for saying something to the media. Say something to Walker. Talk to him first. I had no problem with what Favre said last year either. I just had a problem that he talked about it to the media before talking to Walker and getting his side of the story. Same thing applies here. Talk to Walker first. Then comment if you feel you absolutely have to. Those guys have to know that anything they say at this point is going to draw the ire of Javon Walker. If they want to do that...fine. Let them. But just don't act surprised when he gets upset about it.
 
This isn't to say Walker isn't an idiot for making public demands like this...because he is...but what are the other Packer players thinking getting in the middle of this? Favre caught some flack for breaking the 'players' code' and getting involved in the financial affairs of another player last season. Walker has publicly admonished those statements. Why would Henderson or, for god's sake, Aaron freaking Rodgers try to get involved here. Toe the company line. "That's Javon's business. I'm going to let Javon and the Packers management work it out. We have a great organization here, it's an honor for anybody to be a part of." It's not that hard.
Did you read what Henderson even said?And I applaud them for saying something...F this belief that the team should not talk...it is their careers he could be screwing up as well.
I read what Henderson said. Was it something like this?Henderson said he wants to talk to Walker "just as a big brother talking to a little brother" about his claim he'd rather retire than suit up for the Packers.

"I've seen many guys who asked to go elsewhere or felt this wasn't the place for them for whatever reason, and as soon as they had a chance to see what the life was like with a different team, they quickly found that those dreams and aspirations ... have fallen well short of what they already had in front of them here," Henderson said. "Basically, I would say the grass isn't always greener."

I also read this from PFT:

One year after pirating Pro Bowl safety Darren Sharper and one day after taking away elite kicker Ryan Longwell from the Packers, the Vikings entertained quarterback Craig Nall and made plans to visit with fullback William Henderson later in the week.

:potkettle:

FWIW GB can keep the old man FB in GB.

 
this is probably a good time for Aaron Rodgers to keep his mouth shut
:thumbup: I thought the same thing when I read the article. Why is this guy even commenting on this issue? Idiot.
Because he may be his QB?
First: I doubt that he is the starting QB. Second: There is a history here and Rogers is just coming off his 1st year (spend on the pine). It is one thing for Farve to stick his nose in other players contract situations, but ARogers does not get that latitude. No way.
I never suggested that he was right for speaking out. Hell, I didn't think Favre was right either but I agree that Favre's words should carry weight.
 
This isn't to say Walker isn't an idiot for making public demands like this...because he is...but what are the other Packer players thinking getting in the middle of this? Favre caught some flack for breaking the 'players' code' and getting involved in the financial affairs of another player last season. Walker has publicly admonished those statements. Why would Henderson or, for god's sake, Aaron freaking Rodgers try to get involved here. Toe the company line. "That's Javon's business. I'm going to let Javon and the Packers management work it out. We have a great organization here, it's an honor for anybody to be a part of." It's not that hard.
Did you read what Henderson even said?And I applaud them for saying something...F this belief that the team should not talk...it is their careers he could be screwing up as well.
I don't applaud them for saying something to the media. Say something to Walker. Talk to him first. I had no problem with what Favre said last year either. I just had a problem that he talked about it to the media before talking to Walker and getting his side of the story. Same thing applies here. Talk to Walker first. Then comment if you feel you absolutely have to. Those guys have to know that anything they say at this point is going to draw the ire of Javon Walker. If they want to do that...fine. Let them. But just don't act surprised when he gets upset about it.
Just like Walker did not go to the media and talked to the team first right?Walker made the first move and made it public...not the other way around.

Henderson's comments are nothing like even Favres...and I agree with the sentiment that Rodgers should just shut his mouth.

 
This isn't to say Walker isn't an idiot for making public demands like this...because he is...but what are the other Packer players thinking getting in the middle of this? Favre caught some flack for breaking the 'players' code' and getting involved in the financial affairs of another player last season. Walker has publicly admonished those statements. Why would Henderson or, for god's sake, Aaron freaking Rodgers try to get involved here. Toe the company line. "That's Javon's business. I'm going to let Javon and the Packers management work it out. We have a great organization here, it's an honor for anybody to be a part of." It's not that hard.
Did you read what Henderson even said?And I applaud them for saying something...F this belief that the team should not talk...it is their careers he could be screwing up as well.
I read what Henderson said. Was it something like this?Henderson said he wants to talk to Walker "just as a big brother talking to a little brother" about his claim he'd rather retire than suit up for the Packers.

"I've seen many guys who asked to go elsewhere or felt this wasn't the place for them for whatever reason, and as soon as they had a chance to see what the life was like with a different team, they quickly found that those dreams and aspirations ... have fallen well short of what they already had in front of them here," Henderson said. "Basically, I would say the grass isn't always greener."

I also read this from PFT:

One year after pirating Pro Bowl safety Darren Sharper and one day after taking away elite kicker Ryan Longwell from the Packers, the Vikings entertained quarterback Craig Nall and made plans to visit with fullback William Henderson later in the week.

:potkettle:

FWIW GB can keep the old man FB in GB.
He is a free agent....not a guy looking to hold the team hostage to trade him.Apples and oranges with that comparison.

But I doubt Henderson goes anywhere...and Id love to have him back in GB.

 
This isn't to say Walker isn't an idiot for making public demands like this...because he is...but what are the other Packer players thinking getting in the middle of this? Favre caught some flack for breaking the 'players' code' and getting involved in the financial affairs of another player last season. Walker has publicly admonished those statements. Why would Henderson or, for god's sake, Aaron freaking Rodgers try to get involved here. Toe the company line. "That's Javon's business. I'm going to let Javon and the Packers management work it out. We have a great organization here, it's an honor for anybody to be a part of." It's not that hard.
Did you read what Henderson even said?And I applaud them for saying something...F this belief that the team should not talk...it is their careers he could be screwing up as well.
I don't applaud them for saying something to the media. Say something to Walker. Talk to him first. I had no problem with what Favre said last year either. I just had a problem that he talked about it to the media before talking to Walker and getting his side of the story. Same thing applies here. Talk to Walker first. Then comment if you feel you absolutely have to. Those guys have to know that anything they say at this point is going to draw the ire of Javon Walker. If they want to do that...fine. Let them. But just don't act surprised when he gets upset about it.
Just like Walker did not go to the media and talked to the team first right?Walker made the first move and made it public...not the other way around.

Henderson's comments are nothing like even Favres...and I agree with the sentiment that Rodgers should just shut his mouth.
Walker is an idiot. He has handled things poorly. The other players that followed his "lead" are idiots. They are handling things poorly. Two wrongs don't make a right here. Walker made some public comments. Be the bigger man. Call him. Don't play the same game.
 
This isn't to say Walker isn't an idiot for making public demands like this...because he is...but what are the other Packer players thinking getting in the middle of this? Favre caught some flack for breaking the 'players' code' and getting involved in the financial affairs of another player last season. Walker has publicly admonished those statements. Why would Henderson or, for god's sake, Aaron freaking Rodgers try to get involved here. Toe the company line. "That's Javon's business. I'm going to let Javon and the Packers management work it out. We have a great organization here, it's an honor for anybody to be a part of." It's not that hard.
Did you read what Henderson even said?And I applaud them for saying something...F this belief that the team should not talk...it is their careers he could be screwing up as well.
I don't applaud them for saying something to the media. Say something to Walker. Talk to him first. I had no problem with what Favre said last year either. I just had a problem that he talked about it to the media before talking to Walker and getting his side of the story. Same thing applies here. Talk to Walker first. Then comment if you feel you absolutely have to. Those guys have to know that anything they say at this point is going to draw the ire of Javon Walker. If they want to do that...fine. Let them. But just don't act surprised when he gets upset about it.
Just like Walker did not go to the media and talked to the team first right?Walker made the first move and made it public...not the other way around.

Henderson's comments are nothing like even Favres...and I agree with the sentiment that Rodgers should just shut his mouth.
Walker is an idiot. He has handled things poorly. The other players that followed his "lead" are idiots. They are handling things poorly. Two wrongs don't make a right here. Walker made some public comments. Be the bigger man. Call him. Don't play the same game.
I may agree if it was the first time he had done this. But this is two years in a row.
 

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