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sho nuff
Footballguy
Only because of a little more depth at LB.But that is a huge loss for Hawk.Collins was also hurt, as was Cullen Jenkins.Pretty much a MASH unit coming out of this game.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
But I thought it was all good for Rodgers? I know I've seen multiple posts about there being no structural damage anyways...
renesauz
IBL Representative
I thought Rodgers returned and finished the game?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
torn pec. down for the season.http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&amp...08&id=46898HoTnickZ said:
TUESDAY, Sept. 30, 2008, 2:49 p.m.
By Tom Silverstein
UPDATE: Jenkins needs 3 months to heal
Green Bay - The agent for defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins said that there was no way he could have made it back this season without having surgery and thus it was decided he would go on injured reserve.
Brian Levy said that Jenkins suffered a torn pectoral muscle that would have continued to plague him all season long if he had not gotten it repaired.
"He's got to have the surgery," Levy said. "It's just devastating. He was their best defensive lineman in the first 3 1/2 games. If he didn't have surgery he would have been dealing with the same thing after four weeks and the seven weeks. He has to have it done."
Levy said the healing time will be three months and that he's fully confident that Jenkins will be ready for next season.
"No question," Levy said. "He'll make a full recovery. It's not like a knee or something like that. He'll be bigger and stronger. There's no regrets."
Levy said Jenkins was very disappointed about the news, but he understood the surgery had to be done.
Buckeyedawgs
Footballguy
And Woodson has a bad toe, and Rouse is banged up!~ Bigsby is out!
Wow... Green Bay might just have first pick next year by time swason is over!
That's what they get for letting there FRANCHISE go!
Wow... Green Bay might just have first pick next year by time swason is over!
That's what they get for letting there FRANCHISE go!
gregjcross
Footballguy
Last time I checked, impact linebackers were by no means simple to replace. Just because you toss a back up guy in there and he looks the part, doesnt mean he is doing as well. Just ask the Bengals and Lions (save for Ernie Sims) who have tried to skimp by with non-pro bowl LBs for a few years now.
It will be noticed.
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thecardiackid
Footballguy
That's just LHUCKS opening the proverbial door when opportunity knocked to bang on a Big 10 player. Nothing else to see here.Last time I checked, impact linebackers were by no means simple to replace. Just because you toss a back up guy in there and he looks the part, doesnt mean he is doing as well. Just ask the Bengals and Lions (save for Ernie Sims) who have tried to skimp by with non-pro bowl LBs for a few years now.
It will be noticed.
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
Good point. They should've kept Favre around. That way none of these guys on DEFENSE would've gotten injured.
Chachi
Footballguy
Shefter was on Dan Patrick today and thinks Rodgers may have a separated shoulder and the team is hiding it because the team is afraid of the public backlash and instead will send Rodgers out to the wolves to play hurt or if Rodgers doesn't play then the fans will think he's a big wuss.
deep vacuum
Footballguy
I believe the "wuss" broke his foot against the Patriots a few years ago and finished the game on said broken foot. He also played for four years with a torn ACL before joining the Packers. I don't doubt his toughness at all.
Kleck
Footballguy
Lord Favre has stricken upon us the ultimate plague of injury. If only we had cleansed ourselves of these front office demons, our savior could be with us now to get us through these tough times when we have a struggling running game and defense like he did in 2005 and 2006.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
A) Guy doesn't make an impactB) Hasn't seen a Pro-Bowl, so your Bengals/Lions example is irrelevant.Last time I checked, impact linebackers were by no means simple to replace. Just because you toss a back up guy in there and he looks the part, doesnt mean he is doing as well. Just ask the Bengals and Lions (save for Ernie Sims) who have tried to skimp by with non-pro bowl LBs for a few years now.
It will be noticed.
hauser42
Footballguy
This is poor speculation! Why would a team risk further injury to a guy that they want to have around for a long time? THe fans that dont see the big picture will continue to bash the trade of Brett to the Jets. A fan that knows the game will realize that all these injuries will have more to do with the teams performance than one player.Brett sure carried this team last year in his last game as a Packer.
GoldenBear
Footballguy
Yours is a vengeful god.
BoulderBob
Footballguy
Big trouble, if Rodgers is done, I think the Bears take the division with 10 wins or so...
PatrickT
Footballguy
Exactly what I was thinking. There is no bad thing that can happen to the Packers that won't somehow get tied to Thompson not keeping Favre.
BigRed
Footballguy
Given the severe stupidity of the general public (sports fans esp), that wouldn't surprise me, but I wouldn't count on that. Rodgers has played better than most by far expected and if his season ends because of injury - I just think GB fans at least are a lot better than that. After all, this isn't Oakland or Philly. As stated, this is probably idiotic speculation (from sports reporters, go figure).As my luck with QBs continues.
lol
Buckeyedawgs
Footballguy
Pack won;t be 8-8. They have lost half the d! Even if Rodgers gets thru this he never lasted a game before. What makes you think he will last a season? I am surprised he lasted this long.
And LhUCKS if your bashing Hawk I got two things to say.
1. You've never actually watched him play. I have since he was a kid!
2. Your defense deranged
This kid was becomeing real close to passing Lewis as the best in the business!
He was right there with him when he got hurt. He was really comeing into his own and it was very noticeble to anyone that knows anything about Defense!
And LhUCKS if your bashing Hawk I got two things to say.
1. You've never actually watched him play. I have since he was a kid!
2. Your defense deranged
This kid was becomeing real close to passing Lewis as the best in the business!
He was right there with him when he got hurt. He was really comeing into his own and it was very noticeble to anyone that knows anything about Defense!
mr. furley
Footballguy
let's just take it easy here, guyhe's solid but nowhere near the #1 or #2 best LB in the league. hell, he's the second best LB on his team.
Buckeyedawgs
Footballguy
No, he wasn't the second best LB on his team. HE PASSED UP Barnett late last year and was really comeing into his own this year before the chest injury.
I was a defensive corridanater of 3 state championship teams AND 7 BIG SCHOOL STATE FINALIST! I know defenses.
No A.J was not one of greatest fantasy LB just yet. But within the schemes GB used he was a star! A stud. Always in the right place at the right time! Something you just don't teach! I saw his worst game since his rookie year when he tried to come back from chest injury. Something wasn't right! And now this. Probably lead to this.
A.J Hawk can not be replaced with anything even close to the level he was playing at.
G.B is in trouble!
Rodgers loss very similar to offense as A.J. s will be to D. GB can pretty much throw the towell in this season and use it to develop depth. Whatever.
It's between Minny and Bears for division now regardless if Rodgers lasts or not WITH a.j OUT.
MARK MY WORDS.
I was a defensive corridanater of 3 state championship teams AND 7 BIG SCHOOL STATE FINALIST! I know defenses.
No A.J was not one of greatest fantasy LB just yet. But within the schemes GB used he was a star! A stud. Always in the right place at the right time! Something you just don't teach! I saw his worst game since his rookie year when he tried to come back from chest injury. Something wasn't right! And now this. Probably lead to this.
A.J Hawk can not be replaced with anything even close to the level he was playing at.
G.B is in trouble!
Rodgers loss very similar to offense as A.J. s will be to D. GB can pretty much throw the towell in this season and use it to develop depth. Whatever.
It's between Minny and Bears for division now regardless if Rodgers lasts or not WITH a.j OUT.
MARK MY WORDS.
how the hell did we get dragged into this?Given the severe stupidity of the general public (sports fans esp), that wouldn't surprise me, but I wouldn't count on that. Rodgers has played better than most by far expected and if his season ends because of injury - I just think GB fans at least are a lot better than that. After all, this isn't Oakland or Philly. As stated, this is probably idiotic speculation (from sports reporters, go figure).As my luck with QBs continues.
lol
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Balance
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
No...they are still good enough to beat the Lions right now so lets not go crazy on 1st pick.Letting the franchise go had anything to do with Jenkins tearing a pec? Or Hawk hurting his groin? Or Harris rupturing a spleen?
sho nuff
Footballguy
A) actually he does...to anyone who is objective and has watched the Packers play, especially this year. You are just way off as usual because you don't like the guy because of where he went to school.B) and how long has he been in the league. Woodson and Harris have seen how many pro bowls? Do they not make impacts on the field?A) Guy doesn't make an impactB) Hasn't seen a Pro-Bowl, so your Bengals/Lions example is irrelevant.Last time I checked, impact linebackers were by no means simple to replace. Just because you toss a back up guy in there and he looks the part, doesnt mean he is doing as well. Just ask the Bengals and Lions (save for Ernie Sims) who have tried to skimp by with non-pro bowl LBs for a few years now.
It will be noticed.
sho nuff
Footballguy
I would not go even close to as far as saying he was passing Lewis or any of the top 5 LBs for sure at this point.
sho nuff
Footballguy
And time for a
No...he did not pass Barnett at all last year...was getting close this year. But still not there.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
6-10
sho nuff
Footballguy
I thought we were talking about the Packers...not the Vikings.
Chachi
Footballguy
Desmond Bishop? I think this kid has some talent, maybe the opportunity to showcase it is now?
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I was thinking probably Tracy White.related note: Packers signed DE Kenny Pettway yesterday.
sho nuff
Footballguy
White is listed there on the depth chart on that side.Not sure how much switching LB positions can be done though.My guess would be, if possible, Chillar or Bishop. Even the possibility of Bishop playing middle and Barnett being able to move outside.I don't know for sure though how many of them are apt to move around at the LB spots they play.
sho nuff
Footballguy
http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/...ice-report.aspx
Rodgers barely practiced...only handed off.
Hawk looked stiff in his jogging.
Oline had a different look at times with Barbre getting more work.
Also working Clifton more than usual since he and Tauscher have also not looked good so far this year.
Rodgers barely practiced...only handed off.
Hawk looked stiff in his jogging.
Oline had a different look at times with Barbre getting more work.
Also working Clifton more than usual since he and Tauscher have also not looked good so far this year.
RudeDog
Footballguy
You mean the way the Eagles beat down the Bears last Sunday night
Aaronstory
Footballguy
Just to call it now:
The Packers will win big this weekend against Atlanta. All the tools will howl: Atlanta sucks! Wait 'till they play the Seahawks!
The Packers will beat the Seahawks. All the tools will howl: Just wait until the Packers get taken apart by Manning next week!
The Packers will beat the Colts.
It will then be their bye week,the Packers will be in first place in the NFC North with a record of 5-2.
The Packers will win big this weekend against Atlanta. All the tools will howl: Atlanta sucks! Wait 'till they play the Seahawks!
The Packers will beat the Seahawks. All the tools will howl: Just wait until the Packers get taken apart by Manning next week!
The Packers will beat the Colts.
It will then be their bye week,the Packers will be in first place in the NFC North with a record of 5-2.
sho nuff
Footballguy
We can dream.But I worry about the Colts game.Just to call it now:
The Packers will win big this weekend against Atlanta. All the tools will howl: Atlanta sucks! Wait 'till they play the Seahawks!
The Packers will beat the Seahawks. All the tools will howl: Just wait until the Packers get taken apart by Manning next week!
The Packers will beat the Colts.
It will then be their bye week,the Packers will be in first place in the NFC North with a record of 5-2.
By then, especially after this bye of theirs, I expect Manning and that offense will be much more in sync, Saturday getting healthy...and the Packers defense banged up that, this game could get ugly. If Woodson can keep it up and Harris can come back at all, that would be nice.
Jayrod
Footballguy
As far as AJ Hawk's value:
I've been studying the Packers front 7 very closely so far this year as I own both Barnett and Kampman in an IDP league. Luckily, they've been on TV a few times and I've had chances to really watch them.
I've been concerned with Barnett and its primarily because of AJ Hawk. The guy has been FLYING to the ball this year. He is beating Barnett to almost every play and has shedding blocks very easily. And its been showing up in their tackle numbers. He looks a step faster than in previous seasons and his decision making has been great. The coach that posted above is right, he has passed up Barnett as the best LB on the team and they will miss him greatly. Sure those tackles will get made by somebody else, but it will be 2-3 yards further downfield.
I've been studying the Packers front 7 very closely so far this year as I own both Barnett and Kampman in an IDP league. Luckily, they've been on TV a few times and I've had chances to really watch them.
I've been concerned with Barnett and its primarily because of AJ Hawk. The guy has been FLYING to the ball this year. He is beating Barnett to almost every play and has shedding blocks very easily. And its been showing up in their tackle numbers. He looks a step faster than in previous seasons and his decision making has been great. The coach that posted above is right, he has passed up Barnett as the best LB on the team and they will miss him greatly. Sure those tackles will get made by somebody else, but it will be 2-3 yards further downfield.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
Good thing you weren't the English teacher. 
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Franknbeans
Footballguy
I am
