Packers looking for someone to replace Brandon Jackson (1 Viewer)

[Moonlight_Graham]

The Packers reportedly intend to find a speed back this offseason to "push" Ryan Grant.

This doesn't bode especially well for Brandon Jackson, who can pick up the blitz and catch a pass here or there, but offers little to no explosion. Ahman Green definitely won't be back. Green Bay could look at rookies like Dexter McCluster and Keith Toston, or Darren Sproles if he gets to free agency.

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

 

[beachbum]

I'm available

 

[Moonlight_Graham]

I'm available

Brilliant

 

[werdnoynek]

interesting... hopefully they get the next CJ3.

 

[Gopher State]

Sounds like the Packers are looking for someone to replace Grant

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

The Packers reportedly intend to find a speed back this offseason to "push" Ryan Grant.This doesn't bode especially well for Brandon Jackson, who can pick up the blitz and catch a pass here or there, but offers little to no explosion. Ahman Green definitely won't be back. Green Bay could look at rookies like Dexter McCluster and Keith Toston, or Darren Sproles if he gets to free agency. Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

Interesting, but the report doesn't make much sense to me. If the Packers are looking for a speed back to "push" Grant, doesn't that mean they are looking to replace Grant? He's really just a guy, nothing special about him. Jackson can't stay healthy, that's the main reason he needs to be replaced. Otherwise, he's a serviceable 3rd down back. He's also "just a guy" though.How would Darren Sproles be at all useful in "pushing" Grant? Sproles is a change of pace guy, period. He can never be the man. I'm far more concerned about finding a talented RB who can be a difference maker, rather than spending a chunk of cash on a dude like Sproles. TT ain't going to break the bank for a small RB who can't carry the load. The rookie angle makes far more sense.

 

[Max Power]

I think Jerious Norwood would be the quick and dirty answer here.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

If they do it through the draft it's going to cost them. Either Spiller or Best would have to be 1st round. And after the Senior Bowl, Mighty Might McCluster would probably cost a 2nd. Would Joe McKnight be an option?

 

[sho nuff]

I think they really like McCluster...and for what he might be able to bring...a late 2nd, where GB picks if he fell there, would not be a bad spot for him. Especially if he can handle the return game.

I don't think its much of a thing to replace Grant though.

He is a solid back...nothing great...but gets the job done.

 

[jurrassic]

It's been rumored they like Jahvid Best from Cal and he may be someone they take in the first round. I think they will most likely go defense in round 1 but Thompson does what he wants.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Hi Moonlight,

Can you share why this is important to you? Are you a Ryan Grant onwer? Curious what impact Brandon Jackson has on you as a n owner. Not saying this is n't worth talking about, all NFL talk is worth discussing but this seems like an odd RB to take an interest in. Just curious, thanks.

MOP

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.

When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

It's been rumored they like Jahvid Best from Cal and he may be someone they take in the first round. I think they will most likely go defense in round 1 but Thompson does what he wants.

Maybe TT can call up Belichick again and return the favor from last year. They've made a couple big draft trades together already. Belichick is holding three 2nd rounders in his dirty little mitts and that may get TT all excited. Of course a trade down may take Best out of the running if he receives a 1st round grade.

 

[Moonlight_Graham]

Hi Moonlight,Can you share why this is important to you? Are you a Ryan Grant onwer? Curious what impact Brandon Jackson has on you as a n owner. Not saying this is n't worth talking about, all NFL talk is worth discussing but this seems like an odd RB to take an interest in. Just curious, thanks.MOP

I don't own Grant or Jackson in any league. I posted this because I'm amazed how many dynasty owners still view Brandon Jackson as a RB with upside. Sort of the Tyrone Calico Syndrome. Also to talk about Grant's future in GB.

 

[DesmondBishop]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

The o-line and db's must be addressed first unless there is going to be some fa's we target.The running game is servicable at this point a better line may improve that a better rb won't make the line or protection better.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

I agree that they definitely need to address OL, especially the OT position. But are they really in that bad a position at DB? It's hard to tell since we don't know all that much about Lee or Underwood yet.

 

[sho nuff]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

The o-line and db's must be addressed first unless there is going to be some fa's we target.The running game is servicable at this point a better line may improve that a better rb won't make the line or protection better.

In the 1st I agree...IMO has to be best OL or DB on the board.Really love Iupati...but he is skyrocketing up the boards right now.Seem to be plenty of backs to take in the 2nd/3rd round areas really.I could see them trading down into the 2nd though to be able to just take a bunch of players hoping one works out.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

The o-line and db's must be addressed first unless there is going to be some fa's we target.The running game is servicable at this point a better line may improve that a better rb won't make the line or protection better.

But were Tennessee Titans fans saying the same kind of things when they picked Chris Johnson in the 1st round? Were fans mad at the team for not addressing needs earlier? I believe they had a backfield of Chris Brown, Lendale White, and Chris Henry when they picked Johnson in 2008. They had drafted 2 RB's, each in the 2nd round, in 2006 and 2007. Then in 2008 they used a 1st rounder on Johnson. I'd imagine at the time the fans were not all that happy about the pick. They needed a WR worse than a RB.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

The o-line and db's must be addressed first unless there is going to be some fa's we target.The running game is servicable at this point a better line may improve that a better rb won't make the line or protection better.

TT believes in best player available. I'm sure he will look to upgrade at o-line and DB, but if the BPA is a RB, that's who he will take. Example: Aaron Rodgers.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

It's been rumored they like Jahvid Best from Cal and he may be someone they take in the first round. I think they will most likely go defense in round 1 but Thompson does what he wants.

Maybe TT can call up Belichick again and return the favor from last year. They've made a couple big draft trades together already. Belichick is holding three 2nd rounders in his dirty little mitts and that may get TT all excited. Of course a trade down may take Best out of the running if he receives a 1st round grade.

Just for kicks I looked up the pick value chart for the Pack and NE. Values below.....Pats:1st...22nd = 7802nd..44th = 4602nd..47th = 4302nd..53rd = 3704th...116th = 62Pack:1st...23rd = 7602nd...56th = 3403rd...86th = 1604th...119th = 56They've obviously felt comfortable making trades together recently.....2 major draft trades in the last 4 years. Are they compatable again this year?

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Sounds like the Packers are looking for someone to replace Grant

I didn't get that impression. If you read the whole article, it says they thought Grant ran better when they brought in Green. They've also said time and again they want competition across the team. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/82856802.html

"According to sources, the Packers will keep Green in mind but wouldn't mind adding a faster back in the draft. Whether it's Green or another player, the Packers want starter Ryan Grant to have someone pushing him. They felt Green did that this past season."

 

[sho nuff]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

The o-line and db's must be addressed first unless there is going to be some fa's we target.The running game is servicable at this point a better line may improve that a better rb won't make the line or protection better.

TT believes in best player available. I'm sure he will look to upgrade at o-line and DB, but if the BPA is a RB, that's who he will take. Example: Aaron Rodgers.

Agreed...also LB seems to be on the radar alot from all of the blurbs at the Senior Bowl.I would look to them adding speed though somewhere in the draft...whether a WR/RB type like McCluster...or WR like Ford.SOmeone who can show quickness and help in the return game.

 

[sho nuff]

Sounds like the Packers are looking for someone to replace Grant

I didn't get that impression. If you read the whole article, it says they thought Grant ran better when they brought in Green. They've also said time and again they want competition across the team. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/82856802.html

"According to sources, the Packers will keep Green in mind but wouldn't mind adding a faster back in the draft. Whether it's Green or another player, the Packers want starter Ryan Grant to have someone pushing him. They felt Green did that this past season."

Yeah...I don't read "pushing him" as trying to replace him.

 

[MAC_32]

Another explosive play maker should not be near the top of the priority list. O line depth, corner, LB, and S should all take precedent. A wildcard with some starter potential like Joique Bell, Toston, or Starks that can be had after round 4 makes the most sense. If whoever they bring in doesn't work out, dust yourself off, and make it a priority in 2011, assuming the priorities in 2010 panned out.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Grant's success / Jackson's failure vs. draft position illustrates why they don't need a 1st/2nd round player at RB in that offense.

 

[inzanitee]

Sounds like the Packers are looking for someone to replace Grant

I didn't get that impression. If you read the whole article, it says they thought Grant ran better when they brought in Green. They've also said time and again they want competition across the team. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/82856802.html

"According to sources, the Packers will keep Green in mind but wouldn't mind adding a faster back in the draft. Whether it's Green or another player, the Packers want starter Ryan Grant to have someone pushing him. They felt Green did that this past season."

Yeah...I don't read "pushing him" as trying to replace him.

I think the original post said they were looking for someone to replace Brandon Jackson, not Grant.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Toston seems like a weird guy to namedrop here. Not very fast, more similar to Grant, not a great prospect. Completely different than McCluster and Sproles.

The Packers reportedly intend to find a speed back this offseason to "push" Ryan Grant.This doesn't bode especially well for Brandon Jackson, who can pick up the blitz and catch a pass here or there, but offers little to no explosion. Ahman Green definitely won't be back. Green Bay could look at rookies like Dexter McCluster and Keith Toston, or Darren Sproles if he gets to free agency. Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

 

[Tau837]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

Replacing or pushing Grant would seem to be something that should be near the bottom of the Packers' priority list. I would be stunned if they used a first rounder on a RB as some are suggesting in this thread.

 

[MAC_32]

Toston seems like a weird guy to namedrop here. Not very fast, more similar to Grant, not a great prospect. Completely different than McCluster and Sproles.

Great prospects usually aren't found in the late rounds in the draft, McCluster is not going to be a late rounder when all is said and done and Sproles doesn't fit Ted Thompson's criteria when it comes to free agents - cheap.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

The o-line and db's must be addressed first unless there is going to be some fa's we target.The running game is servicable at this point a better line may improve that a better rb won't make the line or protection better.

TT believes in best player available. I'm sure he will look to upgrade at o-line and DB, but if the BPA is a RB, that's who he will take. Example: Aaron Rodgers.

Agreed...also LB seems to be on the radar alot from all of the blurbs at the Senior Bowl.I would look to them adding speed though somewhere in the draft...whether a WR/RB type like McCluster...or WR like Ford.SOmeone who can show quickness and help in the return game.

Fair enough. We don't have enough quickness in the backfield, and our return game isn't feared by anyone.

 

[Spike]

It's been rumored they like Jahvid Best from Cal and he may be someone they take in the first round. I think they will most likely go defense in round 1 but Thompson does what he wants.

Maybe TT can call up Belichick again and return the favor from last year. They've made a couple big draft trades together already. Belichick is holding three 2nd rounders in his dirty little mitts and that may get TT all excited. Of course a trade down may take Best out of the running if he receives a 1st round grade.

Return the favor from last year?

 

[scrumptrulescent]

It's been rumored they like Jahvid Best from Cal and he may be someone they take in the first round. I think they will most likely go defense in round 1 but Thompson does what he wants.

Maybe TT can call up Belichick again and return the favor from last year. They've made a couple big draft trades together already. Belichick is holding three 2nd rounders in his dirty little mitts and that may get TT all excited. Of course a trade down may take Best out of the running if he receives a 1st round grade.

Return the favor from last year?

The Packers moved up in the draft last year in a trade with the Pats. I was mentioning a potential trade down for the Packers this year if the Pats had interest in moving up in the 1st this year. So they would trade rolls. I'm not sure of the Pats' needs so I don't know if they want to trade up, but these 2 teams have been able to pull off trades in the past so I was just wondering out loud if it could happen.It's probably not the proper thread to mention these things but there is no Official 2010 Packer Thread yet I believe.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

It's been rumored they like Jahvid Best from Cal and he may be someone they take in the first round. I think they will most likely go defense in round 1 but Thompson does what he wants.

Maybe TT can call up Belichick again and return the favor from last year. They've made a couple big draft trades together already. Belichick is holding three 2nd rounders in his dirty little mitts and that may get TT all excited. Of course a trade down may take Best out of the running if he receives a 1st round grade.

BTW, KC has a pair of 2nds (36 & 50) so they could match up.

 

[Johnnymac]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

 

[sho nuff]

I will be very disappointed if the Packers do not deal with their offensive line and defensive backfield early and often in the draft. They running game is fine right now and would recieve a boost from strengthening the offensive line.When my engine is breaking down I don't replace the tires.

The o-line and db's must be addressed first unless there is going to be some fa's we target.The running game is servicable at this point a better line may improve that a better rb won't make the line or protection better.

TT believes in best player available. I'm sure he will look to upgrade at o-line and DB, but if the BPA is a RB, that's who he will take. Example: Aaron Rodgers.

Agreed...also LB seems to be on the radar alot from all of the blurbs at the Senior Bowl.I would look to them adding speed though somewhere in the draft...whether a WR/RB type like McCluster...or WR like Ford.SOmeone who can show quickness and help in the return game.

Fair enough. We don't have enough quickness in the backfield, and our return game isn't feared by anyone.

Returns is where I am interested...and I don't care if it comes from a back to take Jackson's place, or another WR...or a DB.Just someone who can do something in the return game.I don't like Neslon back there and don't know if Blackmon will even be back.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Toston seems like a weird guy to namedrop here. Not very fast, more similar to Grant, not a great prospect. Completely different than McCluster and Sproles.

Great prospects usually aren't found in the late rounds in the draft, McCluster is not going to be a late rounder when all is said and done and Sproles doesn't fit Ted Thompson's criteria when it comes to free agents - cheap.

Charles Woodson wasn't cheap...TT believes in value not being cheap. Looks like there may be a surprising number of respectable OTs on the Free Agent market this year as well. I wouldn't be surprised by another OLB being taken early in the draft. Brandon Graham has been drawing a lot of comparisons to Woodley. Could be a very nice bookend to Matthews.

 

[MAC_32]

Toston seems like a weird guy to namedrop here. Not very fast, more similar to Grant, not a great prospect. Completely different than McCluster and Sproles.

Great prospects usually aren't found in the late rounds in the draft, McCluster is not going to be a late rounder when all is said and done and Sproles doesn't fit Ted Thompson's criteria when it comes to free agents - cheap.

Charles Woodson wasn't cheap...

Woodson's also one of the best, if not the best, at his position. Can you say the same thing about Sproles? If not, what sort of price tag do you think he'll command? I think he's going to command top 20 RB money and Ted won't pay that.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Toston seems like a weird guy to namedrop here. Not very fast, more similar to Grant, not a great prospect. Completely different than McCluster and Sproles.

Great prospects usually aren't found in the late rounds in the draft, McCluster is not going to be a late rounder when all is said and done and Sproles doesn't fit Ted Thompson's criteria when it comes to free agents - cheap.

Charles Woodson wasn't cheap...TT believes in value not being cheap. Looks like there may be a surprising number of respectable OTs on the Free Agent market this year as well.

I wouldn't be surprised by another OLB being taken early in the draft. Brandon Graham has been drawing a lot of comparisons to Woodley. Could be a very nice bookend to Matthews.

As a U of M fan, I would love it because Graham has a great first step, has pass rushing moves, and is relentless . But I don't know if TT goes for this kind of player. From what I've read about weigh in/measurements at the Senior Bowl, Graham doesn't jump out at all. It sounds like he has T-rex arms at just 30 inches and his physique doesn't blow anyone away. And it remains to be seen if Graham can drop back into coverage even though he states that before he went to Michigan, he'd always played linebacker.But Graham is a football player that makes plays. He's relentless to the QB but still plays the run well too. I've seen Woodley and Graham and I do believe they are of 1 mold. I'd love it if the Packers took him but I'm not sure Graham is TT material.

 

[sho nuff]

Toston seems like a weird guy to namedrop here. Not very fast, more similar to Grant, not a great prospect. Completely different than McCluster and Sproles.

Great prospects usually aren't found in the late rounds in the draft, McCluster is not going to be a late rounder when all is said and done and Sproles doesn't fit Ted Thompson's criteria when it comes to free agents - cheap.

Charles Woodson wasn't cheap...TT believes in value not being cheap. Looks like there may be a surprising number of respectable OTs on the Free Agent market this year as well.

I wouldn't be surprised by another OLB being taken early in the draft. Brandon Graham has been drawing a lot of comparisons to Woodley. Could be a very nice bookend to Matthews.

As a U of M fan, I would love it because Graham has a great first step, has pass rushing moves, and is relentless . But I don't know if TT goes for this kind of player. From what I've read about weigh in/measurements at the Senior Bowl, Graham doesn't jump out at all. It sounds like he has T-rex arms at just 30 inches and his physique doesn't blow anyone away. And it remains to be seen if Graham can drop back into coverage even though he states that before he went to Michigan, he'd always played linebacker.But Graham is a football player that makes plays. He's relentless to the QB but still plays the run well too. I've seen Woodley and Graham and I do believe they are of 1 mold. I'd love it if the Packers took him but I'm not sure Graham is TT material.

Bolded two things...that is exactly the kind of guy TT goes for. Guys who can just play football.Matthews comes to mind. Measurables were not all world...but the guy can just play.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Toston seems like a weird guy to namedrop here. Not very fast, more similar to Grant, not a great prospect. Completely different than McCluster and Sproles.

Great prospects usually aren't found in the late rounds in the draft, McCluster is not going to be a late rounder when all is said and done and Sproles doesn't fit Ted Thompson's criteria when it comes to free agents - cheap.

Charles Woodson wasn't cheap...TT believes in value not being cheap. Looks like there may be a surprising number of respectable OTs on the Free Agent market this year as well.

I wouldn't be surprised by another OLB being taken early in the draft. Brandon Graham has been drawing a lot of comparisons to Woodley. Could be a very nice bookend to Matthews.

As a U of M fan, I would love it because Graham has a great first step, has pass rushing moves, and is relentless . But I don't know if TT goes for this kind of player. From what I've read about weigh in/measurements at the Senior Bowl, Graham doesn't jump out at all. It sounds like he has T-rex arms at just 30 inches and his physique doesn't blow anyone away. And it remains to be seen if Graham can drop back into coverage even though he states that before he went to Michigan, he'd always played linebacker.But Graham is a football player that makes plays. He's relentless to the QB but still plays the run well too. I've seen Woodley and Graham and I do believe they are of 1 mold. I'd love it if the Packers took him but I'm not sure Graham is TT material.

Bolded two things...that is exactly the kind of guy TT goes for. Guys who can just play football.Matthews comes to mind. Measurables were not all world...but the guy can just play.

Well, I wouldn't mind if you were right since I think Graham is a special talent. But I'm reminded of Finley.....how it was one of the worst kept secrets that TT had a huge crush on him because he was an athletic freak. Very raw and immature coming into the league, but a freak. Graham does not standout as an athletic freak.

 

[sho nuff]

Let me clarify...not all positions is TT like that.

Seems OL he is more of a guy to take an athletic project over a guy who just flat out got the job done.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Toston seems like a weird guy to namedrop here. Not very fast, more similar to Grant, not a great prospect. Completely different than McCluster and Sproles.

Great prospects usually aren't found in the late rounds in the draft, McCluster is not going to be a late rounder when all is said and done and Sproles doesn't fit Ted Thompson's criteria when it comes to free agents - cheap.

Charles Woodson wasn't cheap...

Woodson's also one of the best, if not the best, at his position. Can you say the same thing about Sproles? If not, what sort of price tag do you think he'll command? I think he's going to command top 20 RB money and Ted won't pay that.

I'm wasn't disagreeing with your premise that TT won't sign Sproles. I was disagreeing with the idea he's cheap. I'm quite sure that he is very formulaic in valuing positions and players. I think he asks himself, I can take McCluster or McKnight in RD2 or RD3 and pay them X amount of dollars. Would the production from Sproles justify the difference in money? My guess is that answer is no. Incidently, when the Packers signed Woodson, no other team wanted him. Nobody made an offer except TT. As for the Brandon Graham talk, he's reportedly been a standout this week at the senior bowl. Much the same as Raji, Matthews and Quinn Johnson were last year. The reports I read about switching to a 3-4 said the biggest challenge was getting both OLBs that fit the scheme. There's no doubt Clay Matthews will see a ton of double teams next year. The Packers desperately need that other guy to bookend him. That might just be Graham.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

As for the Brandon Graham talk, he's reportedly been a standout this week at the senior bowl. Much the same as Raji, Matthews and Quinn Johnson were last year. The reports I read about switching to a 3-4 said the biggest challenge was getting both OLBs that fit the scheme. There's no doubt Clay Matthews will see a ton of double teams next year. The Packers desperately need that other guy to bookend him. That might just be Graham.

I think too many are underselling Aaron Kampman. I expect Kampman to re-sign and to be an outstanding OLB bookend with Mathhews in next season's 3-4.

 

[Banger]

This is precisely why I think Grant is a dynasty risk and I'd look to sell-sell-sell while his value is at its peak. He could easily be in a time share next year.

 

[JohnnyU]

As for the Brandon Graham talk, he's reportedly been a standout this week at the senior bowl. Much the same as Raji, Matthews and Quinn Johnson were last year. The reports I read about switching to a 3-4 said the biggest challenge was getting both OLBs that fit the scheme. There's no doubt Clay Matthews will see a ton of double teams next year. The Packers desperately need that other guy to bookend him. That might just be Graham.

I think too many are underselling Aaron Kampman. I expect Kampman to re-sign and to be an outstanding OLB bookend with Mathhews in next season's 3-4.

Are we still talking about RBs?

 

[sho nuff]

Should we just turn this in to the official Packer offseason thread?

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Should we just turn this in to the official Packer offseason thread?

We definitely need one.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

As for the Brandon Graham talk, he's reportedly been a standout this week at the senior bowl. Much the same as Raji, Matthews and Quinn Johnson were last year. The reports I read about switching to a 3-4 said the biggest challenge was getting both OLBs that fit the scheme. There's no doubt Clay Matthews will see a ton of double teams next year. The Packers desperately need that other guy to bookend him. That might just be Graham.

I think too many are underselling Aaron Kampman. I expect Kampman to re-sign and to be an outstanding OLB bookend with Mathhews in next season's 3-4.

Are we still talking about RBs?

As I've mentioned in the Ryan Grant threads, he just not good enough to get the full load. Grant has gotten 320 and 340 touches in each of the last two years. My guess is they'd like that number to be closer to 225-250. That would hurt the fantasy value of Grant quite a bit. Brandon Jackson got 61 touches this year. His replacement could get double that.

 

[Tau837]

As for the Brandon Graham talk, he's reportedly been a standout this week at the senior bowl. Much the same as Raji, Matthews and Quinn Johnson were last year. The reports I read about switching to a 3-4 said the biggest challenge was getting both OLBs that fit the scheme. There's no doubt Clay Matthews will see a ton of double teams next year. The Packers desperately need that other guy to bookend him. That might just be Graham.

I think too many are underselling Aaron Kampman. I expect Kampman to re-sign and to be an outstanding OLB bookend with Mathhews in next season's 3-4.

Are we still talking about RBs?

As I've mentioned in the Ryan Grant threads, he just not good enough to get the full load. Grant has gotten 320 and 340 touches in each of the last two years. My guess is they'd like that number to be closer to 225-250. That would hurt the fantasy value of Grant quite a bit. Brandon Jackson got 61 touches this year. His replacement could get double that.

1450 YFS, 11 TDs, and 0 fumbles lost on 340 touches isn't good enough? That's a high standard you're setting.

 

[sho nuff]

I think they are fine with Grant right now and happy with him.

They know what they get out of him. Not a game breaker...but not a guy that is going to kill you either.

Yes...they want someone to be a bit more dynamic that Jackson or Green behind him. And I would bet they are looking at someone who can help in the return game.

And for those saying we don't need another offensive weapon...don't discount the return game. How many big plays against our special teams set up other teams (Minnesota anyone?...Tampa?...Cincinnati?)

Yes there are other holes on the team as well...and I don't think they will ignore them (they have not been ignoring them anyway...just suck so far at drafting CBs and Tackles)