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Packers May Scale Back Green's Workload (1 Viewer)

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This was discussed after Morency's big game against Philly and Herron's big game against the Rams looks like it could seal the deal. From RotoWorld:

Coach Mike McCarthy hinted that Ahman Green's role in the offense could be scaled back when he returns.

"I don't think you can look past Noah's (Herron) performance yesterday... Morency had a nice performance in Philadelphia," coach Mike McCarthy said. "We talk about accountability and availability, and (Green) hasn't been available the last two weeks... If its going to be 20-25 carries a game and then we have to go through this process, then that's not real smart. If we have to cut it back to 10-15 we will, but time will answer that question."

 
This was discussed after Morency's big game against Philly and Herron's big game against the Rams looks like it could seal the deal. From RotoWorld:Coach Mike McCarthy hinted that Ahman Green's role in the offense could be scaled back when he returns."I don't think you can look past Noah's (Herron) performance yesterday... Morency had a nice performance in Philadelphia," coach Mike McCarthy said. "We talk about accountability and availability, and (Green) hasn't been available the last two weeks... If its going to be 20-25 carries a game and then we have to go through this process, then that's not real smart. If we have to cut it back to 10-15 we will, but time will answer that question."
This is why I can't bring myself to pick up Herron...this has RBBC written all over it, at least until they draft Peterson with their very high first round pick in '07. :wall:
 
This was discussed after Morency's big game against Philly and Herron's big game against the Rams looks like it could seal the deal. From RotoWorld:Coach Mike McCarthy hinted that Ahman Green's role in the offense could be scaled back when he returns."I don't think you can look past Noah's (Herron) performance yesterday... Morency had a nice performance in Philadelphia," coach Mike McCarthy said. "We talk about accountability and availability, and (Green) hasn't been available the last two weeks... If its going to be 20-25 carries a game and then we have to go through this process, then that's not real smart. If we have to cut it back to 10-15 we will, but time will answer that question."
This is why I can't bring myself to pick up Herron...this has RBBC written all over it, at least until they draft Peterson with their very high first round pick in '07. :wall:
Jeez, how many teams are planning on drafting Peterson next year? I've got him going to the Jets, the Cards, the Packers, the Titans, the Texans, the Raiders and just about anyone else who figures to be picking in the top 5.
 
This was discussed after Morency's big game against Philly and Herron's big game against the Rams looks like it could seal the deal. From RotoWorld:

Coach Mike McCarthy hinted that Ahman Green's role in the offense could be scaled back when he returns.

"I don't think you can look past Noah's (Herron) performance yesterday... Morency had a nice performance in Philadelphia," coach Mike McCarthy said. "We talk about accountability and availability, and (Green) hasn't been available the last two weeks... If its going to be 20-25 carries a game and then we have to go through this process, then that's not real smart. If we have to cut it back to 10-15 we will, but time will answer that question."
This is why I can't bring myself to pick up Herron...this has RBBC written all over it, at least until they draft Peterson with their very high first round pick in '07. :wall:
Jeez, how many teams are planning on drafting Peterson next year? I've got him going to the Jets, the Cards, the Packers, the Titans, the Texans, the Raiders and just about anyone else who figures to be picking in the top 5.
Pretty sure we can rule out the Cards. They already have a RB. What they need is an offensive line to block for him.
 
This was discussed after Morency's big game against Philly and Herron's big game against the Rams looks like it could seal the deal. From RotoWorld:Coach Mike McCarthy hinted that Ahman Green's role in the offense could be scaled back when he returns."I don't think you can look past Noah's (Herron) performance yesterday... Morency had a nice performance in Philadelphia," coach Mike McCarthy said. "We talk about accountability and availability, and (Green) hasn't been available the last two weeks... If its going to be 20-25 carries a game and then we have to go through this process, then that's not real smart. If we have to cut it back to 10-15 we will, but time will answer that question."
This is why I can't bring myself to pick up Herron...this has RBBC written all over it, at least until they draft Peterson with their very high first round pick in '07. :wall:
Jeez, how many teams are planning on drafting Peterson next year? I've got him going to the Jets, the Cards, the Packers, the Titans, the Texans, the Raiders and just about anyone else who figures to be picking in the top 5.
This looks like the same number of teams that were going to draft Reggie Bush this time last year.
 
calling flaVVed... please pick up the courtesy phone..

YOu've been saying Herron is the better backup.. Yesterday seems to validate you point somewhat, but it looks like your boy A.Green's best day's are now about 3 years behind him.

how do you see this shaking up?

 
Green's workload was reduced. Herron and Morency were on the field quite a bit. The thing is, neither one of them did anything. Green really didn't either other than his 70-yard TD run - which was a great run.

 
Green's workload was reduced. Herron and Morency were on the field quite a bit. The thing is, neither one of them did anything. Green really didn't either other than his 70-yard TD run - which was a great run.
:goodposting: The run counts obviously, but it's not a good indication of the success that Green was having running the ball overall. It's a good sign of Green being healthy, but it doesn't seem to tell the whole story.
 
Morency and Herron were on the field more than they were prior to Green's sore hammies which is exactly what the coaching staff stated would happen. Morency had 7 touches and Herron had 2 touches. Green had 18 carries which is about what the coaches stated. Green did miss two series in the 3rd quarter to get an IV due to the heat. The bottom line is that the presence of Morency and Herron does not make Green "virtually useless" from a fantasy standpoint like a few people were claiming. In fact, many people think it will help Green's production over the long run this season because he won't be overused like he was early in the season. Of course a few will try to diminish yesterday with "it was only one run" but Green showed the burst he had in the past which made him a dangerous weapon in the past. The other point that came from that game is the coaching staff's attitude that the lineman are doing better with the zone blocking scheme and they expect more runs like that from Green.

 
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Green's workload was reduced. Herron and Morency were on the field quite a bit. The thing is, neither one of them did anything. Green really didn't either other than his 70-yard TD run - which was a great run.
They'd been talking about limiting Green's total touches to 15. Did he have any looks in the passing game?
 
if not for the IV he would have had around 20carries, which is the number of carries i would expect him to have next week against ARI. his value will continue to rise next week.

 
Imagine this, Fla\/\/ed avoids every Ahman Green thread for 3 weeks while he's hurt and comes back in full glory when he's back and has a decent game.

Him having that sig is full of irony.

 
Imagine this, Fla\/\/ed avoids every Ahman Green thread for 3 weeks while he's hurt and comes back in full glory when he's back and has a decent game.Him having that sig is full of irony.
Huh? I have always been supportive of Green unlike yourself. :lmao:
 
Here is a piece from JS Online today on the zone blocking.

When Green broke free, the celebration on the Green Bay sideline was something to behold. Offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski, who brought the zone run game to town in January, and assistant offensive line coach James Campen exchanged hugs and high fives. They weren't showing anybody up; it was just a show of spontaneous, unadulterated joy for an offensive staff that at times seemed to be barking up the wrong tree with its Alex Gibbs-inspired running game parked in 27th place among 32 National Football League teams.When the offensive line, with three rookie starters, got to the sideline, the group and the coaches saw the still photographs that revealed the magnificence of the play."The pictures showed everyone did a great job," guard Tony Moll said. "It was, like, 'Finally. The monkey's off the back now. We finally did it.' "The same probably could be said for Green, who finished with 118 yards in 18 carries. The last time that he had a carry for more than 35 yards was Week 7 in 2004, or 18 games ago. His last 100-yard performance was Week 9 of '04."No, I never doubted it," Green replied when asked if he wondered if there was still a breakaway jaunt in his 29-year-old, injury-battered body. "I didn't care how many times guys missed blocks or coaches went off on guys. With this offense, you've just got to be patient."Jagodzinski has been preaching precisely that in hundreds of interviews during the last nine months. You'll know the zone scheme is working, Jagodzinski has always said, when a string of short gains in the first three quarters become a gargantuan gain in the fourth."Eventually it will come out the back door," McCarthy said. "That's a great illustration of it. It's nice to see key components of successful football coming to life. This is a tremendous team win."Having trailed until Woodson's touchdown return early in the third quarter, the Packers were nursing a 20-16 cushion early in the fourth when they began a series at their 30. Two previous possessions had resulted in six plays, 11 yards and two punts. Battling cramps and tight hamstrings, Green's first 14 carries had resulted in merely 39 yards.McCarthy called his number one more time. The Dolphins were in their 3-4 defense, with a safety up in the box looking for just such a run.On the play side, left tackle Daryn Colledge and left guard Jason Spitz shoved the defensive end to the outside. Then Spitz came off to block middle linebacker Zach Thomas, who was trying to fill the hole hard in his hell-bent-for-leather style. Jason Taylor, standing up on the right side, was occupied by the tight end. On the back side, center Scott Wells and Moll double-teamed nose tackle Keith Traylor. When Wells broke off to cut off weak-side linebacker Channing Crowder, Moll went low and knocked Traylor down with a cut block.That left the strong-side linebacker for lead blocker Brandon Miree. When the free-agent fullback eliminated his target, Green dug deep for his famed finishing kick and easily out-sprinted free safety Renaldo Hill to the pylon."I've been just waiting for it to come," said Green, obviously a very happy man in what for him has been a very tough couple of years. "My line got me there. It was perfect. It was awesome."
 
Mindless Packer fan responding to Fla\/\/ed inane comments with a :lmao: in 5....4...3....2Wonder how it happens?
Well, you see, you post REALLY stupid things like "Sell high on Green" when he hasn't even had a decent game yet. Then you come to gloat about it a few weeks later when he's hurt. Then, after Green has a good game, Flawed comes back to say, no, actually, Green is only now finding his groove, thank you very much. And then I LMAO at your inane comments.THAT is how it happens.
 
Mindless Packer fan responding to Fla\/\/ed inane comments with a :lmao: in 5....4...3....2Wonder how it happens?
Well, you see, you post REALLY stupid things like "Sell high on Green" when he hasn't even had a decent game yet. Then you come to gloat about it a few weeks later when he's hurt. Then, after Green has a good game, Flawed comes back to say, no, actually, Green is only now finding his groove, thank you very much. And then I LMAO at your inane comments.THAT is how it happens.
:goodposting: Limp Ditka is always wrong when it comes to Green. I think he's the one with the "inane comments".
 
Interesting wording on the play description. I'd be curious to see if Traylor was still engaged when he was cut block.
Interesting wording on your response. I thought the article was pretty clear: "On the back side, center Scott Wells and Moll double-teamed nose tackle Keith Traylor. When Wells broke off to cut off weak-side linebacker Channing Crowder, Moll went low and knocked Traylor down with a cut block."But maybe that's just me.

 
Mindless Packer fan responding to Fla\/\/ed inane comments with a :lmao: in 5....4...3....2Wonder how it happens?
Well, you see, you post REALLY stupid things like "Sell high on Green" when he hasn't even had a decent game yet. Then you come to gloat about it a few weeks later when he's hurt. Then, after Green has a good game, Flawed comes back to say, no, actually, Green is only now finding his groove, thank you very much. And then I LMAO at your inane comments.THAT is how it happens.
:goodposting: Limp Ditka is always wrong when it comes to Green. I think he's the one with the "inane comments".
:lmao: :goodposting:
 
Now re-reading that OP I think McCarthy should stop using the press to motivate his players. That's weak

 
Mindless Packer fan responding to Fla\/\/ed inane comments with a :lmao: in 5....4...3....2Wonder how it happens?
Well, you see, you post REALLY stupid things like "Sell high on Green" when he hasn't even had a decent game yet. Then you come to gloat about it a few weeks later when he's hurt. Then, after Green has a good game, Flawed comes back to say, no, actually, Green is only now finding his groove, thank you very much. And then I LMAO at your inane comments.THAT is how it happens.
:goodposting: Limp Ditka is always wrong when it comes to Green. I think he's the one with the "inane comments".
:lmao: :goodposting:
Limp Ditka - Throw in the f'in towel. Ahman plays two games since coming back and both produce studly numbers. His value is strong, he's producing, and his schedule looks great. Sell high time over, huh?!? :lmao:
 
Mindless Packer fan responding to Fla\/\/ed inane comments with a :lmao: in 5....4...3....2Wonder how it happens?
Well, you see, you post REALLY stupid things like "Sell high on Green" when he hasn't even had a decent game yet. Then you come to gloat about it a few weeks later when he's hurt. Then, after Green has a good game, Flawed comes back to say, no, actually, Green is only now finding his groove, thank you very much. And then I LMAO at your inane comments.THAT is how it happens.
:goodposting: Limp Ditka is always wrong when it comes to Green. I think he's the one with the "inane comments".
:lmao: :goodposting:
Limp Ditka - Throw in the f'in towel. Ahman plays two games since coming back and both produce studly numbers. His value is strong, he's producing, and his schedule looks great. Sell high time over, huh?!? :lmao:
:goodposting:
 
Mindless Packer fan responding to Fla\/\/ed inane comments with a :lmao: in 5....4...3....2Wonder how it happens?
Well, you see, you post REALLY stupid things like "Sell high on Green" when he hasn't even had a decent game yet. Then you come to gloat about it a few weeks later when he's hurt. Then, after Green has a good game, Flawed comes back to say, no, actually, Green is only now finding his groove, thank you very much. And then I LMAO at your inane comments.THAT is how it happens.
:goodposting: Limp Ditka is always wrong when it comes to Green. I think he's the one with the "inane comments".
:lmao: :goodposting:
Limp Ditka - Throw in the f'in towel. Ahman plays two games since coming back and both produce studly numbers. His value is strong, he's producing, and his schedule looks great. Sell high time over, huh?!? :lmao:
:goodposting:
I'm loving this. There are three things that I have really been blasted for here. Supporting and defending Favre, my belief that Green isn't done and my belief that Gado was a fluke last year. Now I know why Big Score put me on ignore......because he was wrong on all counts. Limpy is another story. :lmao:
 
Mindless Packer fan responding to Fla\/\/ed inane comments with a :lmao: in 5....4...3....2Wonder how it happens?
Well, you see, you post REALLY stupid things like "Sell high on Green" when he hasn't even had a decent game yet. Then you come to gloat about it a few weeks later when he's hurt. Then, after Green has a good game, Flawed comes back to say, no, actually, Green is only now finding his groove, thank you very much. And then I LMAO at your inane comments.THAT is how it happens.
:goodposting: Limp Ditka is always wrong when it comes to Green. I think he's the one with the "inane comments".
:lmao: :goodposting:
Limp Ditka - Throw in the f'in towel. Ahman plays two games since coming back and both produce studly numbers. His value is strong, he's producing, and his schedule looks great. Sell high time over, huh?!? :lmao:
:goodposting:
I'm loving this. There are three things that I have really been blasted for here. Supporting and defending Favre, my belief that Green isn't done and my belief that Gado was a fluke last year. Now I know why Big Score put me on ignore......because he was wrong on all counts. Limpy is another story. :lmao:
:goodposting:
 
Mindless Packer fan responding to Fla\/\/ed inane comments with a :lmao: in 5....4...3....2Wonder how it happens?
Well, you see, you post REALLY stupid things like "Sell high on Green" when he hasn't even had a decent game yet. Then you come to gloat about it a few weeks later when he's hurt. Then, after Green has a good game, Flawed comes back to say, no, actually, Green is only now finding his groove, thank you very much. And then I LMAO at your inane comments.THAT is how it happens.
:goodposting: Limp Ditka is always wrong when it comes to Green. I think he's the one with the "inane comments".
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 

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