Packers-Steelers Saturday Night (1 Viewer)

[Billy1x]

Disagree on WR depth. Jones is having no problem getting open tonight and Koren Robinson should be available in September.

They seem to be stymied against the 3-4 defense. Last year I think they had the same problem. They can't practice chop blocking in practice and usually practice against a 4-3 formation. Even if they make the playoffs, they are going to have serious problems against 3-4 defenses like Dallas, San Diego, New England, or Pittsburgh.

 

[packersfan]

Very nice play by Rodgers to elude pressure and fire a bullet into the end zone to Martin for an apparent TD. But Martin was penalized for illegal touching so the TD was overturned. Still, that was the best play Rodgers has made tonight. He showed the ability to avoid pressure with his legs and he put some real zip on a pass into the end zone.

 

[packersfan]

Disagree on WR depth. Jones is having no problem getting open tonight and Koren Robinson should be available in September.

You'll forgive me if I'm hardly going to get excited about the possible return of a player who has done nothing but be a major disappointment throughout his NFL career.

 

[BigRed]

Disagree on WR depth. Jones is having no problem getting open tonight and Koren Robinson should be available in September.

Did they sign David Terrell too?

 

[kwille]

FWIW, I think Rodgers looks light-years better than previous years, especially on the move.

 

[CrossEyed]

FWIW, I think Rodgers looks light-years better than previous years, especially on the move.

I agree, I think he's looked pretty good. Very elusive in the pocket.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Cullen Jenkins 2 sacks.

I think the Packers are going to have a solid defense. However, I also think they could have some bad fourth quarters as they get worn down because they're on the field so much due to their highly suspect offense. So from a fantasy perspective, I'd only view them as a No. 2 defense or part of a Defense By Committee. I could see them forcing turnovers but giving up a lot of points - especially in the fourth quarter.

In an IDP league these are the type of players you have to look at. He has two sacks, forced fumble, and a fumble recovery. It was probably against Batch but KGB may not even play on third downs at this rate.

Jenkins will move inside on passing downs, so he will be on the field regardless.

 

[Billy1x]

FWIW, I think Rodgers looks light-years better than previous years, especially on the move.

I agree, I think he's looked pretty good. Very elusive in the pocket.

Takes 3+ years to learn the West Coast offense. He's got two under his belt and one to go. He's also spent the last two seasons in Green Bay building up his arm strength.

 

[Boone22]

SO I know everyone believes Noah Herron is the 3rd down back but how is he looking compared to Brandon Jackson so far tonight? I have to guess by the B-Jax comments that he can't be as bad but I'm curious if the Pack would consider Herron as the every down back until Morency comes back from injury...

 

[Billy1x]

Disagree on WR depth. Jones is having no problem getting open tonight and Koren Robinson should be available in September.

You'll forgive me if I'm hardly going to get excited about the possible return of a player who has done nothing but be a major disappointment throughout his NFL career.

No problem. Bodiford and Martin have also been playing well. Doubt Clowney makes the team and if he does he may get cut if they get Robinson back. Robinson is a pro-bowl returner and Clowey while really fast is also really raw and hasn't done anything in camp so far. Hopefully he can clear waiver and get signed to the practice squad.

 

[Billy1x]

SO I know everyone believes Noah Herron is the 3rd down back but how is he looking compared to Brandon Jackson so far tonight? I have to guess by the B-Jax comments that he can't be as bad but I'm curious if the Pack would consider Herron as the every down back until Morency comes back from injury...

No. He could start for a few games but wouldn't hold up for a whole season. He did have a 100 yd game last year.

 

[Billy1x]

Jones and Martin are both good in the end zone. Rogers could score here.

 

[Boone22]

SO I know everyone believes Noah Herron is the 3rd down back but how is he looking compared to Brandon Jackson so far tonight? I have to guess by the B-Jax comments that he can't be as bad but I'm curious if the Pack would consider Herron as the every down back until Morency comes back from injury...

No. He could start for a few games but wouldn't hold up for a whole season. He did have a 100 yd game last year.

Curious as to why you think he couldn't last the season... He's comparable in size to the toher RBs on the roster. Why not?

 

[Billy1x]

Jones and Martin are both good in the end zone. Rogers could score here.

Holiday. Ferguson is a goner.

 

[Billy1x]

SO I know everyone believes Noah Herron is the 3rd down back but how is he looking compared to Brandon Jackson so far tonight? I have to guess by the B-Jax comments that he can't be as bad but I'm curious if the Pack would consider Herron as the every down back until Morency comes back from injury...

No. He could start for a few games but wouldn't hold up for a whole season. He did have a 100 yd game last year.

Curious as to why you think he couldn't last the season... He's comparable in size to the toher RBs on the roster. Why not?

Good question. No answer. 511*-218 isn't that small. Mostly from what I've picked up reading here and there. If they thought he could do it though they wouldn't have taken Jackson. They also have drafted Wynn but he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

 

[Boone22]

SO I know everyone believes Noah Herron is the 3rd down back but how is he looking compared to Brandon Jackson so far tonight? I have to guess by the B-Jax comments that he can't be as bad but I'm curious if the Pack would consider Herron as the every down back until Morency comes back from injury...

No. He could start for a few games but wouldn't hold up for a whole season. He did have a 100 yd game last year.

Curious as to why you think he couldn't last the season... He's comparable in size to the toher RBs on the roster. Why not?

Good question. No answer. 511*-218 isn't that small. Mostly from what I've picked up reading here and there. If they thought he could do it though they wouldn't have taken Jackson. They also have drafted Wynn but he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

OK thank. Just asking because everything I read or hear says that Herron is strickly a 3rd down back but he matches up well size-wise to both Mornecy and Jackson. Now I know he's slower than those 2 but it that's the case why make him the 3rd down back? Don't you want your shifty, quick guy to be your 3rd down back? I don't understand why he's been labeled as only a 3rd down back and been dismissed by everyone as a potential starter. Then again, I haven't seen him in action so maybe there's another reason but if B-Jax is looking that bad and Morency is hurt, why couldn't he start?

 

[Billy1x]

SO I know everyone believes Noah Herron is the 3rd down back but how is he looking compared to Brandon Jackson so far tonight? I have to guess by the B-Jax comments that he can't be as bad but I'm curious if the Pack would consider Herron as the every down back until Morency comes back from injury...

No. He could start for a few games but wouldn't hold up for a whole season. He did have a 100 yd game last year.

Curious as to why you think he couldn't last the season... He's comparable in size to the toher RBs on the roster. Why not?

Good question. No answer. 511*-218 isn't that small. Mostly from what I've picked up reading here and there. If they thought he could do it though they wouldn't have taken Jackson. They also have drafted Wynn but he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

OK thank. Just asking because everything I read or hear says that Herron is strickly a 3rd down back but he matches up well size-wise to both Mornecy and Jackson. Now I know he's slower than those 2 but it that's the case why make him the 3rd down back? Don't you want your shifty, quick guy to be your 3rd down back? I don't understand why he's been labeled as only a 3rd down back and been dismissed by everyone as a potential starter. Then again, I haven't seen him in action so maybe there's another reason but if B-Jax is looking that bad and Morency is hurt, why couldn't he start?

At this point, he's currently the best back field pass blocker. None of the other backs are even close. Of course all of them have only 1 or 2 years experience and the starting fullback will likely be a converted LB from this years draft.

 

[packersfan]

SO I know everyone believes Noah Herron is the 3rd down back but how is he looking compared to Brandon Jackson so far tonight? I have to guess by the B-Jax comments that he can't be as bad but I'm curious if the Pack would consider Herron as the every down back until Morency comes back from injury...

Herron's a decent third-down RB but as a featured RB he's not even "a guy." He doesn't have the dynamic talent you'd like in a starter. Then again, it could be argued that neither Morency nor Jackson possess that type of ability either. If Jackson continues to fail to impress and Morency can't get healthy it wouldn't be a surprise if Herron got a chance to work with the first team. However, I wouldn't expect him to keep the job. Bottom line: The Packers' RB situation is a mess. There's an alarming lack of talent and it could very well be a RBBC situation for most of the season, if not all of the season, as none of the RBs do anything to distinguish themselves. I still think Jackson is the guy the coaching staff badly wants to be the starter and get the majority of the carries. However, it's a legitimate question to wonder if he has the talent to be that player. He certainly did nothing tonight to take a step forward. He's looked awful.And as I type that he finally has a good run against the Steelers' scrubs.

 

[Billy1x]

Brandon breaks one for 14 yards!!

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The Steelers team D has to be moving back up among the top of the rankings. Wicked.

I do think the Steelers' D will be better this season but keep in mind the Packers' offense is pathetic. Favre and Driver are the only players on the offense at the skill positions who are clearly above-average talent. Jennings could get there but their RBs are below average; they have no depth at WR and their talent at TE is abysmal.

I agree, but they just played the Saints last week and look very good also.Its not really about what the other team is or isnt doing. Because in preseason you never even know if an opponent is trying - or what they are trying.But what I do so see of Pittsburghs players and coaching is very encouraging. It looks much much better then last year and they were an okay defense last year.

 

[packersfan]

The Steelers team D has to be moving back up among the top of the rankings. Wicked.

I do think the Steelers' D will be better this season but keep in mind the Packers' offense is pathetic. Favre and Driver are the only players on the offense at the skill positions who are clearly above-average talent. Jennings could get there but their RBs are below average; they have no depth at WR and their talent at TE is abysmal.

I agree, but they just played the Saints last week and look very good also.Its not really about what the other tem is or isnt doing. Because in preseason you never even know if an opponent is trying.But what I do so see of Pittsburghs players and coaching is very encouraging. It looks much much better then last year and they were an okay defense last year.

I do like the Steelers' defense. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that there are going to be a lot of defenses that look good against the Packers' offense this season. This is as bad a Green Bay offense as they've had since the Infante era. There is an alarming lack of talent at the skill positions.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Brandon breaks one for 14 yards!!

Wow , he ran the first run of the game and he is still out there in the close of third quarter in their first preseason game. That's not a good omen.

 

[Billy1x]

SO I know everyone believes Noah Herron is the 3rd down back but how is he looking compared to Brandon Jackson so far tonight? I have to guess by the B-Jax comments that he can't be as bad but I'm curious if the Pack would consider Herron as the every down back until Morency comes back from injury...

Herron's a decent third-down RB but as a featured RB he's not even "a guy." He doesn't have the dynamic talent you'd like in a starter. Then again, it could be argued that neither Morency nor Jackson possess that type of ability either. If Jackson continues to fail to impress and Morency can't get healthy it wouldn't be a surprise if Herron got a chance to work with the first team. However, I wouldn't expect him to keep the job. Bottom line: The Packers' RB situation is a mess. There's an alarming lack of talent and it could very well be a RBBC situation for most of the season, if not all of the season, as none of the RBs do anything to distinguish themselves. I still think Jackson is the guy the coaching staff badly wants to be the starter and get the majority of the carries. However, it's a legitimate question to wonder if he has the talent to be that player. He certainly did nothing tonight to take a step forward. He's looked awful.And as I type that he finally has a good run against the Steelers' scrubs.

Better to draft a Panther. Goings and Foster both averaged 10 yards a carry tonight.

 

[johns560]

Well....maybe the kicking game will be solid this year!

 

[Billy1x]

Brandon breaks one for 14 yards!!

Wow , he ran the first run of the game and he is still out there in the close of third quarter in their first preseason game. That's not a good omen.

He needs the practice, badly. Also, Jackson and Herron are really the only backs that are healthy so there is no one else except a fullback to run the ball.

 

[bluesclues]

Brandon breaks one for 14 yards!!

against 3rd quarter defense

 

[VTjkru]

I wont be able to watch until the tape delay tomorrow but it seems as if the receivers (other than some bad drops) are promising. Everyone is saying that defense is looking real good also. Lets say the Packers trade for LJ before the season starts. What does that do to this Packer team?

 

[johns560]

I wont be able to watch until the tape delay tomorrow but it seems as if the receivers (other than some bad drops) are promising. Everyone is saying that defense is looking real good also. Lets say the Packers trade for LJ before the season starts. What does that do to this Packer team?

Not likelyAdam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the Chiefs and RB Larry Johnson have made "major progress" in contract negotiations.The two sides had been rumored to be far apart, but Schefter said both sides are hopeful something will be worked out soon.

 

[Billy1x]

On a good note, which ever kicker is cut is going to start far another team. They have both been killing the ball. So far the competition is pretty equal with both of them hitting between the posts from 55 yards on in.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Brandon breaks one for 14 yards!!

Wow , he ran the first run of the game and he is still out there in the close of third quarter in their first preseason game. That's not a good omen.

He needs the practice, badly. Also, Jackson and Herron are really the only backs that are healthy so there is no one else except a fullback to run the ball.

I knew it wasnt a good omen. I hope your Pack can shore up the position. We will glady trade you Barlow for a conditional 6th.

 

[packersfan]

I wont be able to watch until the tape delay tomorrow but it seems as if the receivers (other than some bad drops) are promising. Everyone is saying that defense is looking real good also. Lets say the Packers trade for LJ before the season starts. What does that do to this Packer team?

Not likelyAdam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the Chiefs and RB Larry Johnson have made "major progress" in contract negotiations.The two sides had been rumored to be far apart, but Schefter said both sides are hopeful something will be worked out soon.

On top of that, Thompson has shown no signs thus far he has the stones to make a deal like that. So even if LJ was available, I doubt Thompson would even consider making a trade for him even though the addition of a legitimate starting RB would make the Packers a playoff contender in the NFC this season.

 

[packersfan]

Brandon breaks one for 14 yards!!

Wow , he ran the first run of the game and he is still out there in the close of third quarter in their first preseason game. That's not a good omen.

He needs the practice, badly. Also, Jackson and Herron are really the only backs that are healthy so there is no one else except a fullback to run the ball.

I knew it wasnt a good omen. I hope your Pack can shore up the position. We will glady trade you Barlow for a conditional 6th.

As sad as he's become Barlow would probably be an upgrade at the RB position for the Packers.

 

[johns560]

How does Justin Harrell look? Stats say he has a sack.

 

[Billy1x]

Martin Ingle is supposed to QB the 4th quarter and then Thompson will do it next week. Looks like Rogers will play the 2nd and 3rd quarter next week also.

 

[Billy1x]

How does Justin Harrell look? Stats say he has a sack.

Holding his own at the line but not having a lot of luck pushing forward. To used to using power, has to learn to use leverage. He got caught a least once standing to tall and got driven back early on. When he stays down he's hard to move.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

No, RB Gary Russell is not available in any trade that does not include a day one draft pick.

 

[CrossEyed]

Gary Russell looking good tonight after Davis looked good last week. I don't think Barlow makes this team.

BTW, great catch by Reid.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Martin Ingle is supposed to QB the 4th quarter and then Thompson will do it next week. Looks like Rogers will play the 2nd and 3rd quarter next week also.

It's Ingle Martin and I hope he does well.

 

[Billy1x]

Martin Ingle is supposed to QB the 4th quarter and then Thompson will do it next week. Looks like Rogers will play the 2nd and 3rd quarter next week also.

It's Ingle Martin and I hope he does well.

I hate to say he may be cut but in camp Thompson has been looking pretty good. I'm looking forward to seeing him play next week.

 

[Billy1x]

Gary Russell looking good tonight after Davis looked good last week. I don't think Barlow makes this team.BTW, great catch by Reid.

Just heard Russell flunked out last year. Was he picked up as a free agent or drafted?

 

[hephner]

Disagree on WR depth. Jones is having no problem getting open tonight and Koren Robinson should be available in September.

Did they sign David Terrell too?

Terrell is with the Broncos now, and last I heard, he may not make the team.

 

[CrossEyed]

Gary Russell looking good tonight after Davis looked good last week. I don't think Barlow makes this team.BTW, great catch by Reid.

Just heard Russell flunked out last year. Was he picked up as a free agent or drafted?

FA

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Gary Russell looking good tonight after Davis looked good last week. I don't think Barlow makes this team.BTW, great catch by Reid.

Just heard Russell flunked out last year. Was he picked up as a free agent or drafted?

FA

I loved Russell in college. How does he look?

 

[Billy1x]

Gary Russell looking good tonight after Davis looked good last week. I don't think Barlow makes this team.BTW, great catch by Reid.

Just heard Russell flunked out last year. Was he picked up as a free agent or drafted?

FA

Great Pickup. The Steelers seem to have a good eye for RBs.

 

[CrossEyed]

Gary Russell looking good tonight after Davis looked good last week. I don't think Barlow makes this team.BTW, great catch by Reid.

Just heard Russell flunked out last year. Was he picked up as a free agent or drafted?

FA

I loved Russell in college. How does he look?

Very good tonight. Apparently having a nice camp. I'm hoping that he and Davis are kept over Barlow.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Disagree on WR depth. Jones is having no problem getting open tonight and Koren Robinson should be available in September.

You'll forgive me if I'm hardly going to get excited about the possible return of a player who has done nothing but be a major disappointment throughout his NFL career.

I just love some of the conclusions people draw from one pre-season game.

 

[packersfan]

Disagree on WR depth. Jones is having no problem getting open tonight and Koren Robinson should be available in September.

You'll forgive me if I'm hardly going to get excited about the possible return of a player who has done nothing but be a major disappointment throughout his NFL career.

I just love some of the conclusions people draw from one pre-season game.

You need to re-read what I wrote before laughing. I was referring to Koren Robinson. Pretty sure he's had an entire NFL career that can be used to determine his value. Or lack thereof.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Can anyone give more detail on Jackson? Was the D stacking the line? Were there holes and Jackson wasn't hitting them? Or was there nothing for him to get? TIA

 

[Sabertooth]

Can anyone give more detail on Jackson? Was the D stacking the line? Were there holes and Jackson wasn't hitting them? Or was there nothing for him to get? TIA

He didn't impress me much. I think he was looking for hole that weren't there and wasn't making good reads. He didn't break many tackles. He didn't look as good as Noah Herron against the 1st and 2nd squaders. I came away unimpressed.

 

[Kleck.]

Disagree on WR depth. Jones is having no problem getting open tonight and Koren Robinson should be available in September.

You'll forgive me if I'm hardly going to get excited about the possible return of a player who has done nothing but be a major disappointment throughout his NFL career.

I just love some of the conclusions people draw from one pre-season game.

You need to re-read what I wrote before laughing. I was referring to Koren Robinson. Pretty sure he's had an entire NFL career that can be used to determine his value. Or lack thereof.

KRob was on his way to having a decent career until he started hitting the sauce too much. He had a great 2nd season, but all down hill after that. I still think he has the talent though.