Packers to Favre - please shut up! (1 Viewer)

[Miro Z]

So the Green Bay Packers have not officially issued a press release saying, "We would really appreciate it if Brett would now shut up and stay home" but their actions are very clear.

Since Favre began his whole post-retirement 'well, maybe I could return sometime I guess' thing.... this after years of endless tedious speculation about his retirement, the Packers have:

- Announced that his number will be retired the first game of the season. The FIRST one! Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!

- Placed him on the retired list, although he has not filed his retirement papers. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!

- Not welcomed any of the speculation about him returning in the event of an injury. If they wanted him back, wouldn't they say something like, 'Brett is a legend around here and we would always welcome him back'. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!

- Brought in longtime foe Daunte Culpepper to check him out as a possible backup. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!

- Drafted another QB, Brian Brohm, who could play if Rodgers got hurt. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!

 

[the rover]

this is the type of insightful stuff I have come to expect from the shark pool.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

He deserves all the attention he is getting! Leave him be. He will be like Vinnie next ten years filling mop up roles here and there just like Vinnie in Carilina last year where there is no pressure. The pressure is off.

Green Bay developed a fine young team and he blew the ring. He didn't need the pressure and had nothing more to prove there. Let a young QB lead a young team. He took Green Bay from a laughing stock and made them back into a contender yearly. He deserves to have his Jersey hanging. They will get it done week 1 so he can have fun

in a pressure free enviroment as soon as week 2.

You asked for and you received.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

He deserves all the attention he is getting! Leave him be. He will be like Vinnie next ten years filling mop up roles here and there just like Vinnie in Carilina last year where there is no pressure. The pressure is off.

Green Bay developed a fine young team and he blew the ring. He didn't need the pressure and had nothing more to prove there. Let a young QB lead a young team. He took Green Bay from a laughing stock and made them back into a contender yearly. He deserves to have his Jersey hanging. They will get it done week 1 so he can have fun

in a pressure free enviroment as soon as week 2.

You asked for and you received.

This is off-topic (although this thread's topic is already played out) but Vinny had quite a career for himself after starting out in the wasteland of Tampa Bay. I mean, 20 years in the NFL? That's amazing.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

He deserves all the attention he is getting! Leave him be. He will be like Vinnie next ten years filling mop up roles here and there just like Vinnie in Carilina last year where there is no pressure. The pressure is off.

Green Bay developed a fine young team and he blew the ring. He didn't need the pressure and had nothing more to prove there. Let a young QB lead a young team. He took Green Bay from a laughing stock and made them back into a contender yearly. He deserves to have his Jersey hanging. They will get it done week 1 so he can have fun

in a pressure free enviroment as soon as week 2.

You asked for and you received.

This is off-topic (although this thread's topic is already played out) but Vinny had quite a career for himself after starting out in the wasteland of Tampa Bay. I mean, 20 years in the NFL? That's amazing.

They should hang Vinnie's Jersey somewhere. My best memory is when he threw 6 interceptions week 17 and it cost me a few big ones. lol (He was a Brown that year)

 

[Sabertooth]

This thread is ridiculous.

 

[Slinger]

This thread is ridiculous.

Because it's so true and obvious that it doesn't need to be stated?

 

[twitch]

Youve got to keep it in perspective. First of all, Favre is a hot-button figure. He's an ratings/dollar machine. Which is why he was honored with the Madden '09 cover for their 20th anniversary game release, the timing of which coincided perfectly with the NFL's '08 draft weekend. My guess is, Favre will continue to stay in the limelight no matter how much he talks about staying on his farm and riding his tractor all day. The man will miss all that being a star QB offers. He may not have wanted to continue putting in the long hours in the film and weight rooms, but he didnt want to give up the glow of the limelight. And personally, Id love to see the guy get trained up and end up in a booth somewhere. May not happen. but I never thought we'd see that happen with Aikman either, and he's ended up becoming one of the better analysts in the game. But his playing days in GB are absolutely done. Just dont get sweat all the juice that the media will try and squeeze out of the Favre-melon. They know people either love him or hate him. And nothing spins the wheel like love and hate.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

this is the type of insightful stuff I have come to expect from the shark pool.

Why do you hate FBG?

 

[SmoovySmoov]

just like Vinnie in Carilina

Oh my. Is that some sort of uncharted island?

 

[sho nuff]

So the Green Bay Packers have not officially issued a press release saying, "We would really appreciate it if Brett would now shut up and stay home" but their actions are very clear.Since Favre began his whole post-retirement 'well, maybe I could return sometime I guess' thing.... this after years of endless tedious speculation about his retirement, the Packers have:- Announced that his number will be retired the first game of the season. The FIRST one! Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!- Placed him on the retired list, although he has not filed his retirement papers. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!- Not welcomed any of the speculation about him returning in the event of an injury. If they wanted him back, wouldn't they say something like, 'Brett is a legend around here and we would always welcome him back'. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!- Brought in longtime foe Daunte Culpepper to check him out as a possible backup. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!- Drafted another QB, Brian Brohm, who could play if Rodgers got hurt. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!

How about Brett's own words over and over that he is retired?I think they have moved on and everyone knows that.But did we need another thread about Favre complaining about the amount of attention that Favre gets?

 

[Summer Wheat]

If somehow Farve does return it will not be for GreenBay. The Packers have moved on, maybe Farve should too.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

just like Vinnie in Carilina

Oh my. Is that some sort of uncharted island?

isnt that the name of Gilligan's Island.

 

[bcr8f]

Don't hate perfection.

Remember his rights are up for trade. Maybe the Vikings need a real QB.

 

[Phurfur]

If somehow Farve does return it will not be for GreenBay. The Packers have moved on, maybe Farve should too.

Maybe the press and the posters in this thread should move on.

 

[TheFanatic]

just like Vinnie in Carilina

Oh my. Is that some sort of uncharted island?

I was thinking the same thing!?!?

 

[Warhogs]

Please move this thread into the official Brett Favre haters thread.

 

[Aaronstory]

this is the type of insightful stuff I have come to expect from the shark pool.

As is your hilarious and completely original rebuke.

 

[Interseptopus]

Favre isn't going around speaking in front of any camera that will point in his direction "I want to come back I want to come back." He's getting a lot of attention, he's one of the best ever to play the game and holds every QB record practically. People will naturally ask him "Do you see yourself going back, is it possible". The MEDIA keeps bringing it up, Favre does not. Favre is just fine sitting at home. The only reason the MEDIA asks Favre about it is because he had one of his best seasons as a pro then decided to retire. It's obvious he can still play the game.

Giving him grief for answering questions is just ridiculous, as is this thread. Favre isn't the one to blame here. He's being honest and answering questions presented to him. He's not boastfully going everywhere saying he wants to play.

If you know anything about Favre, and I dont think you do since you are a 9ers fan by your avatar, you know that he LOVES football. It's his life, it's everything to him. Leaving something that is so close to you is tough. His father taught him everything he knows, and he passed away... so really football and memories is all Brett has of his father. It's hard to give up something that has more meaning to you than "just a game". Cut him some slack. He's riding off into the sunset and people keep asking him if he might come back. He leaves the door open because I think he WANTS to play, but he doesn't want to go through the workouts and preparations. I don't blame him for having a hard time letting go. He will not come back, but I know deep down football means more to him and he wants to, but realizes he "can't give anything more to the game" (his own words)

A thread like this is just ignorant and accomplishes nothing. Brett won't read this. The only thing it will bring is the Favre bashers and supporters out to get into arguments. It accomplishes nothing. So Miro Z, next time you have the urge to post something like this, just sit on your hands instead... or go play ball in a cup or something...

 

[fatness]

Favre isn't going around speaking in front of any camera that will point in his direction "I want to come back I want to come back." He's getting a lot of attention, he's one of the best ever to play the game and holds every QB record practically. People will naturally ask him "Do you see yourself going back, is it possible". The MEDIA keeps bringing it up, Favre does not. Favre is just fine sitting at home. The only reason the MEDIA asks Favre about it is because he had one of his best seasons as a pro then decided to retire. It's obvious he can still play the game.

I had forgotten how David Letterman went to Favre's home and barged in on him, unwanted, with the cameras rolling.

 

[Slinger]

"Do you see yourself going back, is it possible". The MEDIA keeps bringing it up, Favre does not. Favre is just fine sitting at home.

This is what Favre could do:Media: "Do you see yourself coming back if the Packers need you?"

Favre: "There's zero chance of me coming back guys. Drop it please."

He's not, thus the reason he has the drama queen tag.

 

[Banger]

Cool another thread bashing Favre for doing absolutely nothing....

 

[Sabertooth]

Cool another thread bashing Favre for doing absolutely nothing....

 

[TTCrusher]

I wish the Det. Lions had this type of B. Favre retirement problem with a QB. Ya know with all his records, wins and all, Super Bowl Win, HOF.....

We would gladly put up with the soap opera stuff.

 

[Slinger]

We would gladly put up with the soap opera stuff.

If this thread is any indication Packers fans are putting up with his antics quite well.

 

[Phurfur]

"Do you see yourself going back, is it possible". The MEDIA keeps bringing it up, Favre does not. Favre is just fine sitting at home.

This is what Favre could do:Media: "Do you see yourself coming back if the Packers need you?"

Favre: "There's zero chance of me coming back guys. Drop it please."

He's not, thus the reason he has the drama queen tag.

And you love it, I just ignore it. Do you really care? Why does this bother you?

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

this is the type of insightful stuff I have come to expect from the shark pool.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

Favre isn't going around speaking in front of any camera that will point in his direction "I want to come back I want to come back." He's getting a lot of attention, he's one of the best ever to play the game and holds every QB record practically. People will naturally ask him "Do you see yourself going back, is it possible". The MEDIA keeps bringing it up, Favre does not. Favre is just fine sitting at home. The only reason the MEDIA asks Favre about it is because he had one of his best seasons as a pro then decided to retire. It's obvious he can still play the game.

I had forgotten how David Letterman went to Favre's home and barged in on him, unwanted, with the cameras rolling.

I was wondering how long it would take the #1 Favre hater to check in.Right on cue......

 

[FavreCo]

FAVRE!!!!!

 

[ScottyFargo]

While this topic has already been discussed, OP is right in so far as the Packers have gone out of their way to let their fans know that as far as they are concerned, they've moved on. Even though Favre has said "I am retired" it's what he hasn't said that is still begetting questions.

Because he says "I am retired" and not "And I will not, under any circumstances, return to the game" it's a pretty clear indication that he's not positive he made the right choice, or made it a little early again. Regrets are normal, but a lot of people would be less annoyed if he pondered it less openly.

Anyway, I agree with all of the OP's points but I don't know that we needed another topic on this. Favre's fans understand that he's gone, the team has gone out of their way to show that even if Favre changes his mind they've moved on. Favre is the one playing this on himself. However he wants to word it so he can leave himself some room to change his mind, whatever. He's said flatly "I am retired." That ought to be enough, but thanks to his actions this offseason the question will persist unless he comes out and flatly says "Nothing can bring me back." It's his right not to be clear, but that is why the criticism is warranted. He can be coy if he likes, and we're allowed to roll our eyes at it.

 

[Miro Z]

I know it was easy to read this as Favre bashing, but actually it was more about an intriguing and difficult diplomatic situation.

Q: How does a team cope when a tremendously gifted athlete with a Hall of Fame career does not retire gracefully and indeed undermines his former team-mates with his post-retirement antics?

A: It sends out gentle, but nonetheless clear hints, that it is moving on. And it is those hints that I catalogued above. I think it's a real tricky thing for the Packers, because they couldn't and wouldn't ever criticise Brett, but at the same time, they have to hope he gets the message and stops the whole circus.

 

[Miro Z]

Cool another thread bashing Favre for doing absolutely nothing....

Not sure going on Letterman and hinting you could return is 'absolutely nothing'. The thing that bothers me about Favre is the lack of respect for his former team-mates. How do you think Rodgers feels about the whole circus? He is being undermined by it. At best, it's insensitive of Favre to be such a distraction.

 

[Banger]

Cool another thread bashing Favre for doing absolutely nothing....

Not sure going on Letterman and hinting you could return is 'absolutely nothing'. The thing that bothers me about Favre is the lack of respect for his former team-mates. How do you think Rodgers feels about the whole circus? He is being undermined by it. At best, it's insensitive of Favre to be such a distraction.

How do you think he feels that they took 2 qb's? I think he should worry about that more than anything Favre has to say. You don't know Favre, you don't Rodgers, you have no idea of what kind of relationship they have and there is no circus except for some fantasy geeks.

 

[bcr8f]

Cool another thread bashing Favre for doing absolutely nothing....

Not sure going on Letterman and hinting you could return is 'absolutely nothing'. The thing that bothers me about Favre is the lack of respect for his former team-mates. How do you think Rodgers feels about the whole circus? He is being undermined by it. At best, it's insensitive of Favre to be such a distraction.

If Favre talking about returning IF RODGERS GETS HURT undermines him he isn't as tough as he needs to be.

 

[bcr8f]

I know it was easy to read this as Favre bashing, but actually it was more about an intriguing and difficult diplomatic situation. Q: How does a team cope when a tremendously gifted athlete with a Hall of Fame career does not retire gracefully and indeed undermines his former team-mates with his post-retirement antics? A: It sends out gentle, but nonetheless clear hints, that it is moving on. And it is those hints that I catalogued above. I think it's a real tricky thing for the Packers, because they couldn't and wouldn't ever criticise Brett, but at the same time, they have to hope he gets the message and stops the whole circus.

I took offense with the SHUT UP talk. Oh I'm sorry you said please shut up. Never mind.Look he made it clear as rain he's retiring. So he has misgivings and doubts. Who wouldn't? He loves playing and if this is the end it'll be hard. He can say whatever he likes. Until September I expect him to feel a lot of loss when real play starts. They're asking him if no TC would he play?

 

[brock]

thanks timschocolate for making a new thread and telling us how you feel instead of adding this one of of the other 10000 favre threads.

 

[footloose]

Ugggggh, I can only guess that people that start these Favre bashing threads are cold and just wanna hang out in Favres jock with the other nutz

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Did Favre retire?

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

Did Favre retire?

YES FROM GB, NO FROM THE NFLCARILINNIII is a football ghost town Island out in the ocean for all the picky spelling idiots out therethat has nothing better to do but scan the shark and bash Accountants that could give a crap how to spell. haha $$$$$$ talks, spelling for the IDIOTS!

 

[Phurfur]

Cool another thread bashing Favre for doing absolutely nothing....

Not sure going on Letterman and hinting you could return is 'absolutely nothing'. The thing that bothers me about Favre is the lack of respect for his former team-mates. How do you think Rodgers feels about the whole circus? He is being undermined by it. At best, it's insensitive of Favre to be such a distraction.

Geez, I think you guys watched to much "Care Bears" when you were growing up. Life is not suger coated, if I was Rodgers I would be too concerned with next season to worry about media hype.

 

[Miro Z]

Cool another thread bashing Favre for doing absolutely nothing....

Not sure going on Letterman and hinting you could return is 'absolutely nothing'. The thing that bothers me about Favre is the lack of respect for his former team-mates. How do you think Rodgers feels about the whole circus? He is being undermined by it. At best, it's insensitive of Favre to be such a distraction.

Geez, I think you guys watched to much "Care Bears" when you were growing up. Life is not suger coated, if I was Rodgers I would be too concerned with next season to worry about media hype.

What this boils down to is, do you think what current and former team-members say to the media matters and is important? For example, do you think what Chad Johnson doing now is important? If you don't think this can upset a team, fine. I think it can.

 

[bcr8f]

What this boils down to is, do you think what current and former team-members say to the media matters and is important? For example, do you think what Chad Johnson doing now is important? If you don't think this can upset a team, fine. I think it can.

Chad Johnson didn't retire. Well, not yet anyway.

 

[Challenge Everything]

The thread title needs to be changed. Something like "The Shark Pool says to Miro Z"

 

[KingPrawn]

So the Green Bay Packers have not officially issued a press release saying, "We would really appreciate it if Brett would now shut up and stay home" but their actions are very clear.

Since Favre began his whole post-retirement 'well, maybe I could return sometime I guess' thing.... this after years of endless tedious speculation about his retirement, the Packers have:

- Announced that his number will be retired the first game of the season. The FIRST one! Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!

The Packers have said that they would work with Brett and leave it up to him as to which game would work best for him. I'm sure there was also a lot of pressure from the networks to have their game be the one. I'm sure the NFL had some influence as well. The fact that the Packers play their first game this season on MNF before a nationwide audience certainly was a determining factor in selecting this game. The networks and the NFL had more influence than the Packers.

- Placed him on the retired list, although he has not filed his retirement papers. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED! Actually, the reason the Packers placed him on the retired list is because there is a hard cap on the number of players teams can carry on their roster (80). Packers waited until just before the draft to put him on the retired list so they had one more roster spot to sign undrafted free agents. Had they been trying to send a signal, why did they wait this long?

- Not welcomed any of the speculation about him returning in the event of an injury. If they wanted him back, wouldn't they say something like, 'Brett is a legend around here and we would always welcome him back'. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED!

- Brought in longtime foe Daunte Culpepper to check him out as a possible backup. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED! They brought in Culpepper because they had NO backup QB! You certainly didn't expect the Packer's to go the whole season without a backup QB, did you? And if they were trying to send Brett a message that "You are RETIRED!" I think they would have brought somebody better in than a washed-up QB.

- Drafted another QB, Brian Brohm, who could play if Rodgers got hurt. Get it, Brett? You are RETIRED! Again, drafted Brohm for two reasons. 1) They had NO backup QB and 2) Brohm at no. 56 was too good to pass up

To answer your question, YES, there could be another interpretation of their actions.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Did Favre retire?

YES FROM GB, NO FROM THE NFLCARILINNIII is a football ghost town Island out in the ocean for all the picky spelling idiots out therethat has nothing better to do but scan the shark and bash Accountants that could give a crap how to spell. haha $$$$$$ talks, spelling for the IDIOTS!

So...............you're an Accountant, and you can't spell Carolina? I smell a local business award in your future.

 

[sho nuff]

Favre isn't going around speaking in front of any camera that will point in his direction "I want to come back I want to come back." He's getting a lot of attention, he's one of the best ever to play the game and holds every QB record practically. People will naturally ask him "Do you see yourself going back, is it possible". The MEDIA keeps bringing it up, Favre does not. Favre is just fine sitting at home. The only reason the MEDIA asks Favre about it is because he had one of his best seasons as a pro then decided to retire. It's obvious he can still play the game.

I had forgotten how David Letterman went to Favre's home and barged in on him, unwanted, with the cameras rolling.

He was there...and asked to do the show.Again...he is not seeking out the attention.It comes to him...and when he is around, he grants the interviews.Every interview you saw over the last week was after his trip to NY for a few event including a thing for the madden cover.

 

[sho nuff]

"Do you see yourself going back, is it possible". The MEDIA keeps bringing it up, Favre does not. Favre is just fine sitting at home.

This is what Favre could do:Media: "Do you see yourself coming back if the Packers need you?"

Favre: "There's zero chance of me coming back guys. Drop it please."

He's not, thus the reason he has the drama queen tag.

Things can happen and I don't expect him to close that door completely.But how many times can he say he is retired before some of you believe it.

I still laugh at the drama queen thing though...complete ignorance.

 

[sho nuff]

I know it was easy to read this as Favre bashing, but actually it was more about an intriguing and difficult diplomatic situation. Q: How does a team cope when a tremendously gifted athlete with a Hall of Fame career does not retire gracefully and indeed undermines his former team-mates with his post-retirement antics? A: It sends out gentle, but nonetheless clear hints, that it is moving on. And it is those hints that I catalogued above. I think it's a real tricky thing for the Packers, because they couldn't and wouldn't ever criticise Brett, but at the same time, they have to hope he gets the message and stops the whole circus.

Undermines his former teammates with these antics?Seriously?I think some of you are delusional.Yeah...such a circus when he is asked to do events with Mariucci and Hasselbeck and talking to a few potential draft picks.

 

[sho nuff]

Cool another thread bashing Favre for doing absolutely nothing....

Not sure going on Letterman and hinting you could return is 'absolutely nothing'. The thing that bothers me about Favre is the lack of respect for his former team-mates. How do you think Rodgers feels about the whole circus? He is being undermined by it. At best, it's insensitive of Favre to be such a distraction.

How is he undermined by it?He is the starting QB...he knows this.Favre did not hint he could return on letterman? He hinted that he would think more about football once training camp started.He reiterated for the thousandth time that he was retired.Yeah...I hate when a QB does a few interviews in April...its such a distraction.

 

[sho nuff]

Cool another thread bashing Favre for doing absolutely nothing....

Not sure going on Letterman and hinting you could return is 'absolutely nothing'. The thing that bothers me about Favre is the lack of respect for his former team-mates. How do you think Rodgers feels about the whole circus? He is being undermined by it. At best, it's insensitive of Favre to be such a distraction.

If Favre talking about returning IF RODGERS GETS HURT undermines him he isn't as tough as he needs to be.

Bingo.If he is that fragile mentally...I don't want him as my starting QB.If he cannot handle Brohm behind him...I don't want him as my starting QB.