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this is not an internet tough guy statement for me. I would rather be killed than have that happen to my daughter, sister, mom, etc.
In all seriousness...it sounds like him forcing him to shoot him to death was the only way he was going to prevent that tragedy from occurring.
I don't disagree, but unfortunately, and this is the reason why this guy probably did what he did, you could easily be killed and this still happen to your daughter, sister, mom, etc. I won't judge the father for running. I'm sure he was thinking if he ran, he has a chance to get help. If he dies, he dies and his daughter is left to their mercy anyway. Instead of having a raped daughter, we could have a dead father and a raped daughter. It might be preferable to die rather than see that happen to your daughter, but probably not better for your daughter to be raped and lose her father.
I'm guessing he didn't run to stay alive so much as he ran to get help to stop the rape.I don't disagree, but unfortunately, and this is the reason why this guy probably did what he did, you could easily be killed and this still happen to your daughter, sister, mom, etc. I won't judge the father for running. Instead of having a raped daughter, we could have a dead father and a raped daughter. It might be preferable to die rather than see that happen to your daughter, but probably not better for your daughter to be raped and lose her father.
Really, really ####ed up crime that makes me wish for the death penalty for people like this.
I'd rather my daughter know I died trying to stop her from the horror, than have to face me knowing I ran away for the rest of her life.I don't disagree, but unfortunately, and this is the reason why this guy probably did what he did, you could easily be killed and this still happen to your daughter, sister, mom, etc. I won't judge the father for running. I'm sure he was thinking if he ran, he has a chance to get help. If he dies, he dies and his daughter is left to their mercy anyway. Instead of having a raped daughter, we could have a dead father and a raped daughter. It might be preferable to die rather than see that happen to your daughter, but probably not better for your daughter to be raped and lose her father.
Really, really ####ed up crime that makes me wish for the death penalty for people like this.
Obviously. I'm talking about the end results, not why he did it. That was obviously why he did it, and I'm curious about the part of the article that says he ran to a store and asked them to call the police, and they refused. WTF?I'm guessing he didn't run to stay alive so much as he ran to get help to stop the rape.I don't disagree, but unfortunately, and this is the reason why this guy probably did what he did, you could easily be killed and this still happen to your daughter, sister, mom, etc. I won't judge the father for running. Instead of having a raped daughter, we could have a dead father and a raped daughter. It might be preferable to die rather than see that happen to your daughter, but probably not better for your daughter to be raped and lose her father.
Really, really ####ed up crime that makes me wish for the death penalty for people like this.
who said it was a rather choice? They could've shot him and still raped her
Don't know anything about this area...but I am assuming that if the dad makes a move and one of these guys shoots and kills him...none of them are sticking around to rape the girl. They are going to scatter like roaches.I'm guessing he didn't run to stay alive so much as he ran to get help to stop the rape.I don't disagree, but unfortunately, and this is the reason why this guy probably did what he did, you could easily be killed and this still happen to your daughter, sister, mom, etc. I won't judge the father for running. Instead of having a raped daughter, we could have a dead father and a raped daughter. It might be preferable to die rather than see that happen to your daughter, but probably not better for your daughter to be raped and lose her father.
Really, really ####ed up crime that makes me wish for the death penalty for people like this.
If indeed the article I posted is true, this pack saw an easy target. Some wasted old dude and a young chick with him. Not hard to separate the two and go from there, or just take care of the drunk guy (dad) if needed).
it's Brownsville. Gunshots are part of everyday lifeDon't know anything about this area...but I am assuming that if the dad makes a move and one of these guys shoots and kills him...none of them are sticking around to rape the girl. They are going to scatter like roaches.At least...that is the assumption I would make as a dad. But I don't feel comfortable in any way second guessing this guy based on the info we have in the article.I'm guessing he didn't run to stay alive so much as he ran to get help to stop the rape.I don't disagree, but unfortunately, and this is the reason why this guy probably did what he did, you could easily be killed and this still happen to your daughter, sister, mom, etc. I won't judge the father for running. Instead of having a raped daughter, we could have a dead father and a raped daughter. It might be preferable to die rather than see that happen to your daughter, but probably not better for your daughter to be raped and lose her father.
Really, really ####ed up crime that makes me wish for the death penalty for people like this.
Ugh. I was about to post, why do I fear that this story is going to somehow actually get worse.
I completely agree. There are going to be many layers to this onion before it is all said and done I assume. Unfortunately I don't think the story is going to get any better. I fee bad for the poor gal and the dad regardless.
Nobody is stick around to rape a girl next to a dead man who has been shot and killed.it's Brownsville. Gunshots are part of everyday lifeDon't know anything about this area...but I am assuming that if the dad makes a move and one of these guys shoots and kills him...none of them are sticking around to rape the girl. They are going to scatter like roaches.At least...that is the assumption I would make as a dad. But I don't feel comfortable in any way second guessing this guy based on the info we have in the article.I'm guessing he didn't run to stay alive so much as he ran to get help to stop the rape.I don't disagree, but unfortunately, and this is the reason why this guy probably did what he did, you could easily be killed and this still happen to your daughter, sister, mom, etc. I won't judge the father for running. Instead of having a raped daughter, we could have a dead father and a raped daughter. It might be preferable to die rather than see that happen to your daughter, but probably not better for your daughter to be raped and lose her father.
Really, really ####ed up crime that makes me wish for the death penalty for people like this.
these animals probably wouldNobody is stick around to rape a girl next to a dead man who has been shot and killed.it's Brownsville. Gunshots are part of everyday lifeDon't know anything about this area...but I am assuming that if the dad makes a move and one of these guys shoots and kills him...none of them are sticking around to rape the girl. They are going to scatter like roaches.At least...that is the assumption I would make as a dad. But I don't feel comfortable in any way second guessing this guy based on the info we have in the article.I'm guessing he didn't run to stay alive so much as he ran to get help to stop the rape.I don't disagree, but unfortunately, and this is the reason why this guy probably did what he did, you could easily be killed and this still happen to your daughter, sister, mom, etc. I won't judge the father for running. Instead of having a raped daughter, we could have a dead father and a raped daughter. It might be preferable to die rather than see that happen to your daughter, but probably not better for your daughter to be raped and lose her father.
Really, really ####ed up crime that makes me wish for the death penalty for people like this.
according to the second article to stay away from the police whatever that means
No way. Shots fired - dead guy - blood/commotion amongst the ####### wastes that did this? Sorry to say, but it's highly doubtful any rape would've taken place after these ##### shot a man.Sabertooth said:If they shoot you, it's still happening.
I bet there's plenty of lowlife criminals who would disagree with you.Nobody is stick around to rape a girl next to a dead man who has been shot and killed.it's Brownsville. Gunshots are part of everyday lifeDon't know anything about this area...but I am assuming that if the dad makes a move and one of these guys shoots and kills him...none of them are sticking around to rape the girl. They are going to scatter like roaches.At least...that is the assumption I would make as a dad. But I don't feel comfortable in any way second guessing this guy based on the info we have in the article.I'm guessing he didn't run to stay alive so much as he ran to get help to stop the rape.I don't disagree, but unfortunately, and this is the reason why this guy probably did what he did, you could easily be killed and this still happen to your daughter, sister, mom, etc. I won't judge the father for running. Instead of having a raped daughter, we could have a dead father and a raped daughter. It might be preferable to die rather than see that happen to your daughter, but probably not better for your daughter to be raped and lose her father.
Really, really ####ed up crime that makes me wish for the death penalty for people like this.
I agree. I deleted my other post. The thing is, I'm not going to be in this situation with my daughter.No way. Shots fired - dead guy - blood/commotion amongst the ####### wastes that did this? Sorry to say, but it's highly doubtful any rape would've taken place after these ##### shot a man.Sabertooth said:If they shoot you, it's still happening.
No. I would fight and take that bullet before I ever left my daughter in that situation
It's close. Brooklyn neighborhoods are weird, where you have wealthy gentrifying areas a block from the high crime projects.
No, not lol. He was put in the situation by the group of trash that decided to attack him and his daughter. I'm guessing that your lol is because he decided to share a beer with her? So, because a father had a beer with his adult daughter, she deserved to be gang-raped? #### you, Otis.
Oh, so you think he's responsible for standing next to five guys who wanted to rape his daughter. Because he was in a playground. Okay.
Probably only 10 miles from Park Slope or Prospect Heights but that is pretty far away in Brooklyn standards. There is no way that you'd just end up in Brownsville by accident after taking a wrong turn. It's the neighborhood that Mike Tyson grew up in, not the kind of place you'd head for a Sunday brunch.
Yeah, if it was you and your daughter and you were sober, they would've let you pass and just sat there with a gun and waited for the next father/daughter to come by, hopefully with the father being drunk. This could never happen to you or me or anyone else.I agree. I deleted my other post. The thing is, I'm not going to be in this situation with my daughter.No way. Shots fired - dead guy - blood/commotion amongst the ####### wastes that did this? Sorry to say, but it's highly doubtful any rape would've taken place after these ##### shot a man.Sabertooth said:If they shoot you, it's still happening.
No. I would fight and take that bullet before I ever left my daughter in that situation
Settle down, Beavis. He chose to not only share a beer with but apparently get completely hammered with his underage, estranged daughter in a remote area of a sketchy park at night so they could avoid the police. It still obviously doesn't mean she deserved to be raped nor did anyone imply anything of the sort, just that he used awful judgment in being there in the first place.
No. I think it's weird that a dad is sitting in a public park drinking beer with his 18yo daughter, but it's the fact that there is supposedly a 20 minute gap between the time this went down and the time the cops were called. Anything more than about 20 seconds makes no sense.
The fact that the dad wasn't calling the police for 20 minutes is pretty much the polar opposite of irrelevant.
