Pariah - MOCK 1 - May 24th (1 Viewer)

[datonn]

I think it's hitman's pick :X

Yeah, when I signed up for the mock, I thought we'd be talking about a quick 4-5 hour deal. As we're on about 10 hours to make it through 3.5 of 16 rounds, I probably just screwed the pick order up. Argh. Oh well! If hitman wants to go Heap and/or Crumpler, I'll just go to the good 'ol tried and trusted "Plan B"....... I AM from Minnesota, you know, so I gotta try and have some draft-day shananigans!

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

2.10 Trent Green P: Brett Favre

3.01 Cadillac Williams P: Matt Hasselbeck

Wood's back up.

NIce

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Pariah's actually are more potent the more people are in the draft.

 

[hitmenssharpshooters]

I am making a pick now...just need one more second.

 

[elwayfan446]

Hey, if someone gets a chance can we get an updated draft list? I would do it but I am bouncing back and forth to my desk here at work.

 

[hitmenssharpshooters]

4.06 Hitmen select Andre Johnson and Pariah Hines Ward

 

[Colin Dowling]

1.1. IWannaBeBostonfred - LT2 (P: S.Alexander)1.2. Wood - Edgerrin James (Peuce McAllister)1.3. Elway - McGahee P:HOlmes1.4. Colin - Manning P:CUlpepper1.5. datonn - Jamal Lewis1.6. Hitmen - Clinton Portis1.7.Bicycle Seat Sniffers - Rudi Johnson P:C.Dillon1.8. Broadway - K.Jones P:Tiki Barber1.9. Jackal - Moss P: Owens1.10. Blue Peep: Dom Davis2.1 Blue Peep: S.Jackson2.2. Jackal - Julius Jones P: Tatum Bell2.03 Broadway - Antonio Gates P:Tony Gonzalez2.04 Sniffers - Ahman Green2.05 Hitmen - Curtis Martin2.06 datonn - Chad Johnson 2.07 COlin - Torry Holt P: Donovan McNabb2.08 Elway - Marc Bulger P: Kerry COllins2.09 Wood - LaMont Jordan P: B. Westbrook2.10 IWannaBeBostonfred - Trent Green P: Brett Favre3.01 IWannaBeBostonfred - Cadillac Williams P: Matt Hasselbeck3.02 Wood - Jake PLummer P: Aaron Brooks3.03 Elway - Marvin Harrison P:Javon Walker3.04 Colin - Chris Brown3.05 datonn - Ron Mexico 3.06 Hitmen - Joe Horn P: Reggie Wayne3.07 Sniffer -Carson Palmer P: Drew Brees3.08 Broadway - Tom Brady P: J. Witten3.09 Jackal - Mike Bennett 3.10 Blue Peep- Steve McNair P:W.Dunn4.01 Blue Peep - Cedric Benson P:R.Brown4.02 Jackal -Chad Pennington P: Leftwich4.03 Broadway - Duce Staley P: Shockey4.04 Sniffer - Jake Delhomme P: Griese4.05 Hitmen - Andre Johnson P: H. Ward4.06 datonn -Todd Heap P: Crumpler

 

[Colin Dowling]

Guys, we're going to keep on with this draft in its present format, but I'm going to go on and start a 2nd Mock as well with some rule changes based on the suggestions you guys have made.Thanks so much so far for participating and helping tweak this. Colin

 

[Jason Wood]

Colin, hopefully you're going to give us Round 1ers dibs on the 2nd mock?

 

[elwayfan446]

Colin, hopefully you're going to give us Round 1ers dibs on the 2nd mock?

 

[Colin Dowling]

If you want to be in#2, check in on the thread in the Shark Pool and we'll make it happen. I have no problem keeping a fair number of the same people and having them carry over from one mock to another. That way, not only are we narrowing down the rules and tweaking things, we also get a chance for people to explore various points of strategy.Not patting myself on the back b/c someone else would have likely done the same thing, but I think that getting Manning and P'ing Culpepper (or vice-versa) is perhaps the most obvious way to maximize value. Even if you think that McNabb is in their teir, the gap is WIDE between Manning/Culpepper and the bulk of the QBs that will be starting for other teams.COlin

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

hey COlin I think it's your pick in this draft.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Also, just to put it out there...I'm hoping to have the leagues be money leagues to ensure participation. I need to look in to the legalities involved, but I'd like to have a fair number of leagues this fall (10 or so) with buy-ins from 20$ to 100$, depending on interest...although I suspect most people won't want to pay 100$ buy in for a new style they are unfamiliar with. The idea is that there would be 100% payouts (I'd take nothing) to encourage participation. People who volunteer to Commish leagues would be compensated in the form of not having to pay an entry fee.Year 1 would be to tweak things and get some interest. 2006 would be when I'd really amp things up.

 

[Colin Dowling]

4.07 - Colin - JJ Arrington - RB - ArizonaElway OTC.COlin

 

[elwayfan446]

I am down with it, Colin. Count me in.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I am down with it, Colin. Count me in.

You're up.

 

[elwayfan446]

elwayfan446 (4.08) - Fred Taylor, RB I know...I know.....

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

is anyone totally screwed at QB???

 

[Jason Wood]

Can we get an updated list of who's drafted and who's pariahed?

 

[elwayfan446]

This is a long time to wait for a mock......where is everyone?

 

[Colin Dowling]

1.1. IWannaBeBostonfred - LT2 (P: S.Alexander)1.2. Wood - Edgerrin James (Peuce McAllister)1.3. Elway - McGahee P:HOlmes1.4. Colin - Manning P:CUlpepper1.5. datonn - Jamal Lewis1.6. Hitmen - Clinton Portis1.7.Bicycle Seat Sniffers - Rudi Johnson P:C.Dillon1.8. Broadway - K.Jones P:Tiki Barber1.9. Jackal - Moss P: Owens1.10. Blue Peep: Dom Davis2.1 Blue Peep: S.Jackson2.2. Jackal - Julius Jones P: Tatum Bell2.03 Broadway - Antonio Gates P:Tony Gonzalez2.04 Sniffers - Ahman Green2.05 Hitmen - Curtis Martin2.06 datonn - Chad Johnson 2.07 COlin - Torry Holt P: Donovan McNabb2.08 Elway - Marc Bulger P: Kerry COllins2.09 Wood - LaMont Jordan P: B. Westbrook2.10 IWannaBeBostonfred - Trent Green P: Brett Favre3.01 IWannaBeBostonfred - Cadillac Williams P: Matt Hasselbeck3.02 Wood - Jake PLummer P: Aaron Brooks3.03 Elway - Marvin Harrison P:Javon Walker3.04 Colin - Chris Brown3.05 datonn - Ron Mexico 3.06 Hitmen - Joe Horn P: Reggie Wayne3.07 Sniffer -Carson Palmer P: Drew Brees3.08 Broadway - Tom Brady P: J. Witten3.09 Jackal - Mike Bennett 3.10 Blue Peep- Steve McNair P:W.Dunn4.01 Blue Peep - Cedric Benson P:R.Brown4.02 Jackal -Chad Pennington P: Leftwich4.03 Broadway - Duce Staley P: Shockey4.04 Sniffer - Jake Delhomme P: Griese4.05 Hitmen - Andre Johnson P: H. Ward4.06 datonn -Todd Heap P: Crumpler 4.07 Colin - JJ Arringtin4.08 Elway - Fred Taylor4.09 Wood - OTC

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm about to drop it like it's hot...

 

[Colin Dowling]

 

[Jason Wood]

Woodrow selects WR Darrell Jackson...no pariah

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I'm about to drop it like it's hot...

Well hit me lucky No.13...........and I'll throw 2 right back at ya with a quickness.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I will welcome Michael Clayton WR Bucs and Roy Williams Wr LionsPariah: Steve Smith

 

[Jason Wood]

Woodrow selects WR Nate Burleson, Pariahs WR Donald Driver

 

[Jason Wood]

1.1. IWannaBeBostonfred - LT2 (P: S.Alexander)1.2. Wood - Edgerrin James (Peuce McAllister)1.3. Elway - McGahee P:HOlmes1.4. Colin - Manning P:CUlpepper1.5. datonn - Jamal Lewis1.6. Hitmen - Clinton Portis1.7.Bicycle Seat Sniffers - Rudi Johnson P:C.Dillon1.8. Broadway - K.Jones P:Tiki Barber1.9. Jackal - Moss P: Owens1.10. Blue Peep: Dom Davis2.1 Blue Peep: S.Jackson2.2. Jackal - Julius Jones P: Tatum Bell2.03 Broadway - Antonio Gates P:Tony Gonzalez2.04 Sniffers - Ahman Green2.05 Hitmen - Curtis Martin2.06 datonn - Chad Johnson2.07 COlin - Torry Holt P: Donovan McNabb2.08 Elway - Marc Bulger P: Kerry COllins2.09 Wood - LaMont Jordan P: B. Westbrook2.10 IWannaBeBostonfred - Trent Green P: Brett Favre3.01 IWannaBeBostonfred - Cadillac Williams P: Matt Hasselbeck3.02 Wood - Jake PLummer P: Aaron Brooks3.03 Elway - Marvin Harrison P:Javon Walker3.04 Colin - Chris Brown3.05 datonn - Ron Mexico3.06 Hitmen - Joe Horn P: Reggie Wayne3.07 Sniffer -Carson Palmer P: Drew Brees3.08 Broadway - Tom Brady P: J. Witten3.09 Jackal - Mike Bennett3.10 Blue Peep- Steve McNair P:W.Dunn4.01 Blue Peep - Cedric Benson P:R.Brown4.02 Jackal -Chad Pennington P: Leftwich4.03 Broadway - Duce Staley P: Shockey4.04 Sniffer - Jake Delhomme P: Griese4.05 Hitmen - Andre Johnson P: H. Ward4.06 datonn -Todd Heap P: Crumpler4.07 Colin - JJ Arrington 4.08 elwayfan - Fred Taylor4.09 Wood - Darrell Jackson 4.10 IWannaBeBostonfred - Michael Clayton5.01 IWannaBeBostonfred - Roy Williams P: Steve Smith5.02 Wood - Nate Burleson P: Donald Driver

 

[Jason Wood]

My team so far:QB Jake PlummerRB Edgerrin JamesRB Lamont JordanWR Darrell JacksonWR Nate BurlesonPariahs: RB Deuce McAllisterRB Brian WestbrookQB Aaron BrooksWR Donald Driver

 

[elwayfan446]

elwayfan selects Anquan Boldin, WRPariah Pick - Drew Bennett

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

CowboyBabyFred's Team So Far:Lt2Cadillac WilliamsTrent GreenMichael ClaytonRoy WilliamsPariah's:S. AlexanderFarveHasselbeckSteve Smith

 

[elwayfan446]

My picks:QB Mark BulgerRB Willis McGaheeRB Fred Taylor WR Marvin HarrisonWR Anquan BoldinPariahs:RB Priest HolmesQB Kerry CollinsWR Javon WalkerWR Drew Bennett

 

[Colin Dowling]

5.04 - Colin - Kevan BarlowCurrent squad:QB - Peyton ManningRB1 - Chris BrownRB2 - JJ ArringtonFlex - Kevan BarlowWR1 - Tory HoltI'm relying on an injury-prone-but-very-good RB, a rookie RB, and an RB that SHOULD be betterthan last year. BUt I've got a top-tier QB and a top-4 WR, so that should help.COlin

 

[Jason Wood]

By my count, 29 Pariah picks out of a possible 40 have been used. I can't for the life of me imagine what some people are waiting for....with each passing round the impact of a Pariah pick is diminished as the projected VBD of players selected so quickly falls in its own right.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I expect the quality of players selected to drop through the basement in the next 20 picks, making "evaluation of sleepers" a real art. COlin

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

By my count, 29 Pariah picks out of a possible 40 have been used. I can't for the life of me imagine what some people are waiting for....with each passing round the impact of a Pariah pick is diminished as the projected VBD of players selected so quickly falls in its own right.

Some owners are under the influence that saving the Pariah's when positions run out or thin will potentially hurt an unsuspecting owner. I have been against this theory all along as there are just too many positions/choices out there to be Pariahed out of a starting D or kicker.Now, if this were a 16 team league, Maybe it could work as positions can become think a lot quicker but in this Mock, I think it's a no brainer to use the Pariah's ASAP.

 

[elwayfan446]

By my count, 29 Pariah picks out of a possible 40 have been used. I can't for the life of me imagine what some people are waiting for....with each passing round the impact of a Pariah pick is diminished as the projected VBD of players selected so quickly falls in its own right.

Some owners are under the influence that saving the Pariah's when positions run out or thin will potentially hurt an unsuspecting owner. I have been against this theory all along as there are just too many positions/choices out there to be Pariahed out of a starting D or kicker.Now, if this were a 16 team league, Maybe it could work as positions can become think a lot quicker but in this Mock, I think it's a no brainer to use the Pariah's ASAP.

This has been my strategy from the start as well.

 

[datonn]

5.05 datonn selects RB Ronnie Brown, Dolphins and Pariahs TE Randy McMichael, Dolphins.

 

[Jason Wood]

5.05 datonn selects RB Ronnie Brown, Dolphins and Pariahs TE Randy McMichael, Dolphins.

Ronnie Brown was pariahed by Blue Peep in at pick 4.01

 

[datonn]

5.05 datonn selects RB Ronnie Brown, Dolphins and Pariahs TE Randy McMichael, Dolphins.

Ronnie Brown was pariahed by Blue Peep in at pick 4.01

Gol dangit! I hate these non-computerized drafts...... Exchange DeShaun Foster for Ronnie Brown, keeping McMichael as my Pariah.

 

[hitmenssharpshooters]

5.06 Hitmen select David Carr and Pariah Ben Roethlisberger

 

[Colin Dowling]

So, in other words, Hitmen are still in need of a QB...

 

[Colin Dowling]

1.1. IWannaBeBostonfred - LT2 (P: S.Alexander)1.2. Wood - Edgerrin James (Peuce McAllister)1.3. Elway - McGahee P:HOlmes1.4. Colin - Manning P:CUlpepper1.5. datonn - Jamal Lewis1.6. Hitmen - Clinton Portis1.7.Bicycle Seat Sniffers - Rudi Johnson P:C.Dillon1.8. Broadway - K.Jones P:Tiki Barber1.9. Jackal - Moss P: Owens1.10. Blue Peep: Dom Davis2.1 Blue Peep: S.Jackson2.2. Jackal - Julius Jones P: Tatum Bell2.03 Broadway - Antonio Gates P:Tony Gonzalez2.04 Sniffers - Ahman Green2.05 Hitmen - Curtis Martin2.06 datonn - Chad Johnson2.07 COlin - Torry Holt P: Donovan McNabb2.08 Elway - Marc Bulger P: Kerry COllins2.09 Wood - LaMont Jordan P: B. Westbrook2.10 IWannaBeBostonfred - Trent Green P: Brett Favre3.01 IWannaBeBostonfred - Cadillac Williams P: Matt Hasselbeck3.02 Wood - Jake PLummer P: Aaron Brooks3.03 Elway - Marvin Harrison P:Javon Walker3.04 Colin - Chris Brown3.05 datonn - Ron Mexico3.06 Hitmen - Joe Horn P: Reggie Wayne3.07 Sniffer -Carson Palmer P: Drew Brees3.08 Broadway - Tom Brady P: J. Witten3.09 Jackal - Mike Bennett3.10 Blue Peep- Steve McNair P:W.Dunn4.01 Blue Peep - Cedric Benson P:R.Brown4.02 Jackal -Chad Pennington P: Leftwich4.03 Broadway - Duce Staley P: Shockey4.04 Sniffer - Jake Delhomme P: Griese4.05 Hitmen - Andre Johnson P: H. Ward4.06 datonn -Todd Heap P: Crumpler4.07 Colin - JJ Arrington 4.08 elwayfan - Fred Taylor4.09 Wood - Darrell Jackson 4.10 IWannaBeBostonfred - Michael Clayton5.01 IWannaBeBostonfred - Roy Williams P: Steve Smith5.02 Wood - Nate Burleson P: Donald Driver5.03 Elway - Anquan Boldin P: D.Bennett5.04 Colin - Kevan Barlow5.05 Datonn - Deshaun Foster P: McMichael5.06 Hitmen - David Carr P: RoethlisbergerBostonBoy - 0 Pariahs leftWood - 0 Pariahs leftElway - 0 Pariahs leftColin - 2 Pariahs leftDatonn - 2 Pariahs leftHitmen - 1 Pariah leftSniffers - 1 Pariah leftBroadway - 0 Pariahs leftJackal: 1 Pariah leftBlue Peep: 2 Pariahs left

 

[hitmenssharpshooters]

So, in other words, Hitmen are still in need of a QB...

Yeah, I know it's not good. But they are max protecting in HOU this year right.. Actually, I like having the combination of David Carr to Andre Johnson this year. We know they really improved on Defense so they shouldn't have to throw too much right..

Anyone want to trade? Since it is for fun I am game. Trades will be legit..

 

[datonn]

By my count, 29 Pariah picks out of a possible 40 have been used. I can't for the life of me imagine what some people are waiting for....with each passing round the impact of a Pariah pick is diminished as the projected VBD of players selected so quickly falls in its own right.

Jason,I'm not sure what VBD has to do with it, as using the Pariah on players early lowers the value of ALL players beneath them for ALL of us....meaning that by using the Pariahs early, we are lowering the value of the very players that we will be able to pick up ourselves in subsequent rounds. I agree that it is probably dumb to wait on using the Pariah into the deep middle/latter rounds. However, some people's use of the Pariah in rounds 1-2 is probably just a sign of things that I see in most FFL drafts/leagues I participate in...aka guys don't have a lot of patience and/or cannot see more than five feet in front of them from a long-term strategy standpoint. It's like those leagues where you have auction points for free agent/waiver bids, and 1/2 the league blows their entire wad in Weeks 1-2...then wonders why they are stuck in a bad spot as the playoffs approach. Anyway, I'm not sure who's saving their Pariahs at this point in the draft. All I was saying is that burning them in Rounds 1-2 doesn't always seem to make sense to me unless you are standing at the edge of a significant plateau in player value and the teams picking right behind you have substantial needs at those positions.....Overall, I'm happy with my team so far (Vick, Lewis, Foster, C. Johnson and Heap). I'm going to need good support behind Vick and Foster, but that's what the middle rounds are for. I've been happy to take three top TEs off the board of late though...

 

[datonn]

Oh yeah, and a BIG goes out to Colin for snaking Chris Brown AND Kevan Barlow one pick before me in rounds 3 and 5. Way to wreck my mock team there, Colin!

 

[hitmenssharpshooters]

Here's my team after 5:QB David Carr RB Clinton PortisRB Curtis MartinWR Joe HornWR Andre JohnsonPariahsQB Ben RoethlisbergerWR Reggie WayneWR Hines WardI like the mix of youth and veterans. I am trying to Pariah the entire Steelers team.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Mock 2 has begun. Dolfan is OTC with 1.01 now.COlin

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

5.07 - Seat Sniffer- Lavernous Coles- wr- NYJ

Pariah - Eric Moulds - WR -Buf

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Seat Sniffer Squad:qb- Carson Palmerqb - Jake DelhommeRb- Kevin JonesRb- Ahman green Wr - Lavernous Colespariah listTiki BarberDrew BreesBrian GrieseEric Moulds