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PARIAH Mock # 2 (1 Viewer)

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Colin Dowling

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Same rules as yesterday with a few significant changes...1. You start with ONE Pariah.2. You "earn" a Pariah for each 2 round completed in the draft. i.e. after Round 2 is completed, everyone will be given an additional Pariah. After Round 4, another. ANd so forth.3. You can use the Pariahs whenever you would like, one at a time, provided you have them to use.4. You can use a Pariah on any position you would like, not just the one you drafted. i.e. You can choose a WR and use a Pariah on a QB.5. This will be a 12 team league.12 people signup and we'll start.Thanks,Colin

Some of you may remember this from earlier in the spring. In short, I will gbe putting together/hosting some Fantasy Football leagues this fall. The leagues will be scored and rostered like normal, but there is a bit of a twist.... Rosters - 12 teams of 16 playersStarters - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 TE, 1 K, NO D/STLineups and Schedule - For the time being, I have not determined if it will be "best ball" (highest scorer plays) or "submitted lineup" (weekly choosing of starters). I am also trying to determine whether or not I'll be able to have it be head-to-head or total points. Most of it will be determined by what kind of software I can integrate in to manage the leagues. That will be determined later.PARIAH "twist" - For each 4 rounds of the draft, teams will be given a "Pariah" selection. What is a "PAriah" selection? Simple. WHen a team is "on the clock" for their selection they are obligated to select a player to add to their roster, like normal. However, up to 4 times during the draft, the team on the clock has the option of selecting a player AND excluding another player from the draft pool. This is known as using a "Pariah" pick.Whats the point? Well, be eliminating players from the player pool, the gap between the good players and the bad players becomes even wider. THe idea is that top-tier players would be even MORE valuable, and hitting on a deep sleeper could make a huge difference. For example, a person could select Randy Moss as WR1 late in the 1st round and also use a "Pariah" selection on Terrell Ownes, meaning no team could roster Owens. Suddenly, the principles of VBD get skewed. Or later in the draft, someone could see that Team X had drafted Priest Holmes in round 1, so the team on the clock could use a "Pariah" pick on Larry Johnson to effectively weaken the Holmes selection. THe possibilities are pretty wide open. What's the skill? Many Fantasy Players profess that Fantasy Draft Day is one of their favorite days of the year. In this scenario, things get chaotic in a hurry , which only adds to the fun. Skill comes in to play when teams/owners have to adjust on the fly to the rapidly changing values of positions. Similarly, there is a MUCH greater scope of potential strategy involved then just grabbing your list of projections and hoping for the best.Anyway, I'm interested in running a few MOCK drafts in the Mock Draft Forum to (a) see how this goes and (b) see how much people enjoy it. As a byproduct of the drafts, the participants can help shape how all this works and can 'crack the egg' on some of the nuances of drafting this way.Also, when the fall comes, I will need some commisioners to help, and I expect those commishes will be compensated for their time.Please sign up below. When I have the first 12, I will begin a thread in the Mock draft forum for a 16 round serpentine draft. Draft spots will be assigned at random. THis is just a way to test things out. I'm hoping the draft can get torn through pretty fast (a day or so) and I will step in and make selections if needed. Like I said, I just want to see how this works and if people dig it.Thank you for your help.Colin
Leagues will be hosted this fall at www.pokerandfootball.com
 
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IN - Unless you want different participants...I was going to make comments but, I'm thinking we should just let it play out....

 
You can go again, provided you don't mind "drafting" in two leagues. Doesn't matter to me.Some of the things that we've seen of interest in league 1...1. People are using Pariahs in round 3/4 to get rid of Tight Ends even though they aren't picking one for themselves. IIRC, only Gates and Heap are on rosters, but Witten, Shockey, and Crumpler have been Pariah'd.2. The QBs are basically dried up, meaning my own selection of Manning at 1.04 (while Pariah-ing Culpepper) is gaining serious value by the moment.3. The WRS are not coming off the board very quickly. Harrison didn't go until round 3, Holt at the end of round 2.Colin

 
I see your Value in Manning - But, it's a Flex lineup with a possiblitilty of starting 3 RBs and you'll have 2 questionable RB's... I also think you lucked out that some people later on tried to grab and then Pariah medium level QB's which didn't help themselves out as much as it helped you while pariahing RB's at that point could have easily shut you completely out with just Chrissy Brown as your RB. I'm surprised in a flex league that RB's are still there but, a 12 team league will take care of that....12 Teams will add a lot to the pot.

 
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Colin,

How will the draft order be determined once we get 12 people?
As I remember who signed up, I'll put them in a spot. THen, as the first round goes on, I'll adjust it so that people who are present/online can make selections and people who have stepped away from their CPUs will be bumped to the end of the round. Once round 1 has finished, the order is locked. It worked really well yesterday.Colin

 
I see your Value in Manning - But, it's a Flex lineup with a possiblitilty of starting 3 RBs and you'll have 2 questionable RB's... I also think you lucked out that some people later on tried to grab and then Pariah medium level QB's which didn't help themselves out as much as it helped you while pariahing RB's at that point could have easily shut you completely out with just Chrissy Brown as your RB. I'm surprised in a flex league that RB's are still there but, a 12 team league will take care of that....

12 Teams will add a lot to the pot.
Agreed. Suprisingly though, I expec that time will show that QBs - not RBs - might actually be of the most value in a league like this b/c they can be depleted the fastest.

Imagine....

Since everyone starts with only 1 Pariah, there will be less use in rounds 1 and 2, meaning a great number of teams will get through with 2 servicable RBs. Then, when round 3 gets going, I would anticipate a run on QBs, both as picks and Pariahs. Thats how I would do it, preliminarily speaking.

Colin

 
I'd like to be in, but I'd like to know more about the expectations for our attendance during drafting, so as not to hold up the process. Don't know if I'll be able to be in front of a computer screen throughout the draft's entirety. Care to elaborate, Colin?

 
rounds are taking about 2 hours, tops. Most of the time, people are checking in frequently enough (every 20 minutes or so) and anticipating their selection.COlin

 
in if you need meEdit: Look like I'm #13, so I just missed, but aside from one two hour period, I'll be around the computer all day, so if you want to replace anyone thats holding up the draft with a faster owner, I'll be available...pm me.

 
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I'm about to start the thread in the Mock Draft Forum.PLEASE PM THE NEXT PERSON PICKING WHEN YOU HAVE MADE YOUR PICK.1. Dolfan2. S_ezy3. elway4. hitmen5. jcvdwvwcyv6. Knowledge Reigns Supreme7. Duckboy8. Deepout9. Wood 10. Indy Havoc11. Cutter 12. Snotbubbles

 
Well I take a nap to see that mock 2 started and ended all in the span of about 2 hours. Next time you have a mock, can you put in an official start time that way if you don't want to get your pick taken, you just know what time to show up?I know you want to get a lot of these mocks going, but if you're constantly having to make picks for people who want to participate, it defeats the purpose. If you have a blanket rule that the mock will start 8pm EDT the day that the 12th mock spot is full, there shouldn't be any problem. Waiting a few extra hours to make sure everyone is there and we can breeze through at least 2 rounds of this will be worth it.

 
Well I take a nap to see that mock 2 started and ended all in the span of about 2 hours. Next time you have a mock, can you put in an official start time that way if you don't want to get your pick taken, you just know what time to show up?

I know you want to get a lot of these mocks going, but if you're constantly having to make picks for people who want to participate, it defeats the purpose. If you have a blanket rule that the mock will start 8pm EDT the day that the 12th mock spot is full, there shouldn't be any problem. Waiting a few extra hours to make sure everyone is there and we can breeze through at least 2 rounds of this will be worth it.
Or.......When you say you are in after Colin says "I will be starting a second Pariah Mock draft shorty," hang around and we can breeze through it in 2 hrs.

Everyone jumped in and then when it started either made one pick and took off or never showed up.

There were several people that did this it seems.

 
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