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Patrick Ramsey - signs (1 Viewer)

Jeff Pasquino

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Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Denver Broncos have signed unrestricted free-agent QB Patrick Ramsey (Jets) to a two-year contract worth approximately $5 million, with about $1.5 million in guarantees.

 
This has been one of the best off-seasons for the Broncos in recent memories.

I would like to see some FS/SS help, but other than that, I feel really :confused: about the up-coming year.

 
Courtjester said:
This has been one of the best off-seasons for the Broncos in recent memories.I would like to see some FS/SS help, but other than that, I feel really :headbang: about the up-coming year.
That is usually said for the Redskins. We see how that has ended up each year so far, right? Becareful what you ask for... :unsure:
 
Courtjester said:
This has been one of the best off-seasons for the Broncos in recent memories.I would like to see some FS/SS help, but other than that, I feel really :banned: about the up-coming year.
I completely agree.Was really down on the Broncos last year but they have really helped their cause already this offseason and we haven't even hit the draft yet. Also agree w/regard to safety help. The guy I really thought they'd take a run at was M.Lewis but SF probably just had way too much free $. Maybe Grant or Hamlin if they don't get much interest from other teams.DEN should be the favorite in the division next season. Indy/SD have been standing pat with what works but NE/DEN have been working hard to improve. If NE can add another WR I'd consider them the favorite to come out of the AFC next year but if they don't I think DEN is in a group that has the best shot. Which is unfortunate because I can't stand shanny.
 
I'm happy for Patrick and I hope that Shanny can get him to relax in the pocket a little more and read the field. I think his tendency to get happy feet and pat the ball is why Gibbs was so down on him from the get-go, and I'm sure that Spurrier and his ludicrous blocking schemes couldn't have helped.

 
Not a bad backup. I would have preferred Brad Johnson, but Ramsey will do.
I was hoping someone else would sign BJ. Not interested in a 37-year old statue backing up Cutler.Happy to see Ramsey coming in.I agree with Courtjester, this has been a good offseason. Hope it all comes together.
 
Good signing for Denver, but if your Ramsey why go to Denver.

Other teams were interested (i.e. Texans, Panthers) who would have presumably given him at least a "shot" to be the starter.

While I understand that Denver may give him a greater shot at winning a ring then any of the other teams - it is also the least likely team he could coome in for and start. To me, this indicates that Ramsey either (1) has no desire to be a starter or (2) doesn't believe he is a starter.

Carolina would have seemed to have been a better fit. With the fans criticizing Delhomme late last year and the departure of Weinke, Ramsey's possible rise to starter would seem easier (and therefore rise to starter money). And, Carolina is a solid team.

 
Courtjester said:
This has been one of the best off-seasons for the Broncos in recent memories.I would like to see some FS/SS help, but other than that, I feel really :thumbup: about the up-coming year.
How about Mike Doss, anybody think he'd be good for the Broncos, and can we afford him?
 
I'm actually a lot higher on Ramsey than most people (not that I think he's a great QB, but I think he could have been a serviceable starter, a Jake Delhomme type, if he'd been given a better opportunity)... but with that said, I'm not thrilled with this move. Denver's system favors a QB with a bit of mobility, and Ramsey is not that QB. The last two times Denver tried to run this offense with a more stationary QB were the Brian Griese era (which ended badly), and the (thankfully) short-lived Danny Kanell era.

I think signing Ramsey is an okay move, and I'm finally happy with the contract (Denver overpaid for Henry and Graham, although I didn't mind them overpaying for Graham because he's going to make a big difference in this offensive scheme)... but with that said, I don't count this move as either a plus or a minus for the team. They needed a backup QB, and they got a perfectly average one (once you take into account the scheme) for a perfectly average salary. Nothing to see here.

 
I'm actually a lot higher on Ramsey than most people (not that I think he's a great QB, but I think he could have been a serviceable starter, a Jake Delhomme type, if he'd been given a better opportunity)... but with that said, I'm not thrilled with this move. Denver's system favors a QB with a bit of mobility, and Ramsey is not that QB. The last two times Denver tried to run this offense with a more stationary QB were the Brian Griese era (which ended badly), and the (thankfully) short-lived Danny Kanell era.I think signing Ramsey is an okay move, and I'm finally happy with the contract (Denver overpaid for Henry and Graham, although I didn't mind them overpaying for Graham because he's going to make a big difference in this offensive scheme)... but with that said, I don't count this move as either a plus or a minus for the team. They needed a backup QB, and they got a perfectly average one (once you take into account the scheme) for a perfectly average salary. Nothing to see here.
Delhomme's probably an apt comparison. I like Patrick on a personal level (as much as I can be personal with an NFL player I've never met) and I'm sure that his years under Spurrier and Gibbs hurt his confidence. In Gibbs' defense I think he relatively quickly saw Ramsey's ceiling and figured out it was lower than what he wanted and decided to go with other options, with Brunell's injuries being the only hiccup in that plan. I would liken Ramsey to another former-Redskins QB who was traded away by Gibbs, Stan Humphries. The young QB most like him IMHO is Grossman. In short, in the right circumstances Ramsey could be a strong-armed, play-by-the-seat-of-the-pants gunslinger type QB who is high risk-high reward, but his lack of confidence is a killer if that's the style of QB you're trying to play. I also think that he lacks the touch passing ability and pocket presence that Delhomme and even Grossman have shown. A backup role is probably right for him.
 
For those of us with Cutler, it might be a good idea to pick up Ramsey more so than maybe 90% of other backup QBs. I rarely grab my stud's backup - simply not enough roster space - but with the weapons Denver now has at WR, Ramsey would likely excel if given the opportunity.

 
For those of us with Cutler, it might be a good idea to pick up Ramsey more so than maybe 90% of other backup QBs. I rarely grab my stud's backup - simply not enough roster space - but with the weapons Denver now has at WR, Ramsey would likely excel if given the opportunity.
Disagreed. Cutler makes the WRs great rather than vice versa. Boldin and Fitz couldn't make a stud out of Leinart, and Marshall/Royal are no Boldin/Fitz, and Ramsey might not even be a Leinart.I know, I'm always the boring old pessimist, but I'm not ready to anoint Royal a stud after a single game, either. I think he one day WILL BE a very, very good wide receiver, but I seriously doubt he'll be able to do it on a consistent basis through his entire rookie season. Just to throw a little sand on the fire... five rookie receivers have had better debuts than Royal. Everyone knows Boldin and how that turned out, but what about the other four? Here are the names, how many yards they had in their debut, and how many yards they posted during the REST of their first season...Louis Lipps- 183 / 677Rick Upchurch- 153 / 159Joey Clinkscales- 148 / 92Floyd Eddings- 146 / 129Pretty sobering numbers. Not saying that's going to happen to Royal- as I said, I think he's the real deal, and he's going to become an excellent NFL receiver- just saying that anyone who expects Royal to look like he did Monday night for the rest of the season probably needs to re-evaluate their position.
 
He's with the Chargers now.From Random Shots:

ESPN's Doug Gottlieb had an interesting point for the Monday night late game. Chargers QB Patrick Ramsey set a record starting 55 games in college. Kansas City QB Matt Casell started 0 games in college.
Get some sleep, Joe. ;)
 

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