Patriots 2008 off season (2 Viewers)

[David Yudkin]

Tedy Bruschi follow-up

by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 3, 2008 11:54 AM

Following up on the contract agreement between the Patriots and LB Tedy Bruschi: Bruschi inked a two-year deal, and received a $1.2 million signing bonus. His base salary for 2008 is $1 million. Bruschi's base salary increases to $1.9 million in 2009. There are workout bonuses in each year.

 

[ImTheScientist]

The Pats were 4th in defensive scoring in 2007. Since their back 8 is VERY SUBPAR now, how far to you expect them to drop? 20th? Please tell me.

I'd be interested in seeing what their defensive statistics were with and without Colvin last year.

You saw what they did in the playoffs without Colvin. They gave up an average of 16 pts per game. Almost exactly what they gave up in the regular season.

You are right....he won't be missed at all.

 

[David Yudkin]

Aiken in the fold

Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 3, 2008 02:11 PM

The Patriots hosted receiver Sam Aiken on a free-agent visit, and have reached an undisclosed contract agreement with him.

The 6-foot-2, 215-pound Aiken is considered a strong special teams performer. His receiving production has been limited, as he has 19 career receptions.

The Patriots are familiar with Aiken from having competed against him the last five seasons in Buffalo. The Bills selected Aiken in the fourth round of the 2003 draft.

Aiken will view to become a core member of the Patriots' special teams units.

 

[Patriotsfatboy1]

Aiken in the foldPosted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 3, 2008 02:11 PM The Patriots hosted receiver Sam Aiken on a free-agent visit, and have reached an undisclosed contract agreement with him.The 6-foot-2, 215-pound Aiken is considered a strong special teams performer. His receiving production has been limited, as he has 19 career receptions.The Patriots are familiar with Aiken from having competed against him the last five seasons in Buffalo. The Bills selected Aiken in the fourth round of the 2003 draft.Aiken will view to become a core member of the Patriots' special teams units.

They needed someone to help replace Mel Mitchell and they might need someone to be a gunner for Kelly Washington if they are thinking of giving him more of a chance to contribute at receiver.

 

[OC Zed]

Aiken in the foldPosted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 3, 2008 02:11 PM The Patriots hosted receiver Sam Aiken on a free-agent visit, and have reached an undisclosed contract agreement with him.The 6-foot-2, 215-pound Aiken is considered a strong special teams performer. His receiving production has been limited, as he has 19 career receptions.The Patriots are familiar with Aiken from having competed against him the last five seasons in Buffalo. The Bills selected Aiken in the fourth round of the 2003 draft.Aiken will view to become a core member of the Patriots' special teams units.

Aiken is a great special teams gunner, but offers little in terms of receiving. He has good size, but isn't quick and his hands were unreliable in the limited opportunities he had in Buffalo. As you mentioned in your post, Pats fans shouldn't expect anything more from him other than being a special teams contributor.

 

[Bossman]

anyone care to summarize the Pats off season so far?

I have...

Lost:

Stallworth WR

A.Samuel CB

R.Colvin LB

Randal Gay CB

Eugene Wilson S

Gained:

?

Retained:

T.Bruschi

R.Moss

I'm sure that I've missed a few.

Please fill in the blanks.

O.K., now it looks quite a bit better.I'm guessing we'll see a CB in the draft and a "cast-off" type LB addition during training camp.

 

[nerangers]

Moss's message to fans

Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 3, 2008 05:26 PM

WR Randy Moss posted a message on his website, therealrandymoss.com, to the fans of New England:

"I want to take time out to thank all of the fans for their support and for wishing me well in my return to New England," he wrote. "I'm ready to get back. We have some unfinished business to take care of." That message would seemingly confirm today's news that Moss has re-signed with the club.

Moss: $12m signing bonus

by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 3, 2008 04:47 PM

Randy Moss's three-year, $27 million contract with the Patriots includes a $12 million signing bonus. It is believed that Moss also received additional guaranteed money as part of the pact.

 

[scott72]

Moss's message to fans

Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 3, 2008 05:26 PM

WR Randy Moss posted a message on his website, therealrandymoss.com, to the fans of New England:

"I want to take time out to thank all of the fans for their support and for wishing me well in my return to New England," he wrote. "I'm ready to get back. We have some unfinished business to take care of." That message would seemingly confirm today's news that Moss has re-signed with the club.

Moss: $12m signing bonus

by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 3, 2008 04:47 PM

Randy Moss's three-year, $27 million contract with the Patriots includes a $12 million signing bonus. It is believed that Moss also received additional guaranteed money as part of the pact.

Thats all he got? Wow, if true the Pats got a steal here. Clearly he took less than he could have gotten on the open market imo..

 

[nerangers]

Moss's message to fans

Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 3, 2008 05:26 PM

WR Randy Moss posted a message on his website, therealrandymoss.com, to the fans of New England:

"I want to take time out to thank all of the fans for their support and for wishing me well in my return to New England," he wrote. "I'm ready to get back. We have some unfinished business to take care of." That message would seemingly confirm today's news that Moss has re-signed with the club.

Moss: $12m signing bonus

by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 3, 2008 04:47 PM

Randy Moss's three-year, $27 million contract with the Patriots includes a $12 million signing bonus. It is believed that Moss also received additional guaranteed money as part of the pact.

Thats all he got? Wow, if true the Pats got a steal here. Clearly he took less than he could have gotten on the open market imo..

Tim DiPiero, the agent for Randy Moss, detailed the contract with the Patriots in an email to reporters:"I am pleased to confirm that Randy Moss has signed a three year contract with the New England Patriots. The contract calls for a total payout of $27 million with $15 million guaranteed, $12 million of which is in the form of a signing bonus. Randy is grateful to Mr. Kraft, Coach Belichick and Scott Pioli for agreeing to the terms of this contract. Randy was serious about wanting to stay. Because of Randy's record-breaking year, the interest in him was very high. Randy took less than he could have to rejoin his teammates."

 

[David Yudkin]

Pats signed veteran CB Jason Webster.

 

[Pat Patriot]

What is holding up the release of Ty Law by Kansas City? I thought that was a done deal. Sign Ty Law, wait for the draft, and I think the Pats are in great shape.

 

[David Yudkin]

Gaffney re-signed.

 

[nerangers]

Gaffney re-signed.

I was surprised it was only a one year deal...guess they are looking to evaluate Chad Jackson this year and make a decison on these two next year?

Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports tonight that the Patriots and WR Jabar Gaffney have agreed to a one-year, $2 million contract.Gaffney's reported return ensures that four of the team's top five receivers will be back in 2008, as he joins Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Kelley Washington. Donte' Stallworth is the lone top target to sign elsewhere, as he joined the Browns.Gaffney totaled 36 receptions for 449 yards and five touchdowns in 2007. He had overtaken Stallworth as the primary No. 3 receiver by the end of last season.

I am not sure what the hold up is with Ty Law. On February 27, 2008 the Chiefs told him they intend to release him, however that has not yet been officially done as Law is not on the available list of free agents as of March 2, 2008. Maybe they figure there is no one else out there for them? There is also no guarantee that Ty will come cheap. I read somewhere he might be looking for 5 Million a year (half of what Asante gets a year?)any word on the Patriots going after Clark Haggans?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Gaffney re-signed.

I was surprised it was only a one year deal...guess they are looking to evaluate Chad Jackson this year and make a decison on these two next year?

Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports tonight that the Patriots and WR Jabar Gaffney have agreed to a one-year, $2 million contract.Gaffney's reported return ensures that four of the team's top five receivers will be back in 2008, as he joins Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Kelley Washington. Donte' Stallworth is the lone top target to sign elsewhere, as he joined the Browns.Gaffney totaled 36 receptions for 449 yards and five touchdowns in 2007. He had overtaken Stallworth as the primary No. 3 receiver by the end of last season.

I am not sure what the hold up is with Ty Law. On February 27, 2008 the Chiefs told him they intend to release him, however that has not yet been officially done as Law is not on the available list of free agents as of March 2, 2008. Maybe they figure there is no one else out there for them? There is also no guarantee that Ty will come cheap. I read somewhere he might be looking for 5 Million a year (half of what Asante gets a year?)any word on the Patriots going after Clark Haggans?

We're not gonna know who lands if David isn't finding out things until after the fact (Gafney)....You've gotta figure however that Webster is not the only secondary free agent action that's about to go down in NE...

 

[David Yudkin]

We're not gonna know who lands if David isn't finding out things until after the fact (Gafney)....

Sorry, my crystal ball is broken.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

We're not gonna know who lands if David isn't finding out things until after the fact (Gafney)....

Sorry, my crystal ball is broken.

appreciate all that you do, David.

 

[BelichicksRevenge]

Gaffney is probably looking to put up some big numbers as the full time no. 2 in new england for the whole season and then sign a bigger contract next off season. I think they will try and work in Chad Jackson. If Jackson does'nt show promise this year then he is officially a bust.

So the Pats pretty much will have their offense intact from Last year. They could still use a blocking TE but the loss of tight end Brady and Stallworth should not be that significant.

They can now concentrate on the defense and it needs some help in the secondary and in the linebacking corps. The Pats are always looking to add a big body up front as well. If they keep their pick I would not be surprised to see them add another lineman.

 

[Anarchy99]

Gaffney is probably looking to put up some big numbers as the full time no. 2 in new england for the whole season and then sign a bigger contract next off season. I think they will try and work in Chad Jackson. If Jackson does'nt show promise this year then he is officially a bust. So the Pats pretty much will have their offense intact from Last year. They could still use a blocking TE but the loss of tight end Brady and Stallworth should not be that significant. They can now concentrate on the defense and it needs some help in the secondary and in the linebacking corps. The Pats are always looking to add a big body up front as well. If they keep their pick I would not be surprised to see them add another lineman.

The Pats have Watson, Thomas, and Spach as TE and will likely draft another (or sign someone cheap as a big body like they did with Brady last year).I don't see Gaffney as a regular starter and WR2. I think the Pats will sign someone else for depth (especially if there are veteran June 1 cap casualties to be had). Either way, I think they will try like heck to get Chad Jackson to get to be a starter if at all possible. If not this year, the year after. Either way, I think they he will see more time on the field. If no one else is added, Washington may see more snaps on offense. I'm not sure they will invest in drafting a WR (at least not early).

 

[Boston]

Gaffney is probably looking to put up some big numbers as the full time no. 2 in new england for the whole season and then sign a bigger contract next off season. I think they will try and work in Chad Jackson. If Jackson does'nt show promise this year then he is officially a bust. So the Pats pretty much will have their offense intact from Last year. They could still use a blocking TE but the loss of tight end Brady and Stallworth should not be that significant. They can now concentrate on the defense and it needs some help in the secondary and in the linebacking corps. The Pats are always looking to add a big body up front as well. If they keep their pick I would not be surprised to see them add another lineman.

The Pats have Watson, Thomas, and Spach as TE and will likely draft another (or sign someone cheap as a big body like they did with Brady last year).I don't see Gaffney as a regular starter and WR2. I think the Pats will sign someone else for depth (especially if there are veteran June 1 cap casualties to be had). Either way, I think they will try like heck to get Chad Jackson to get to be a starter if at all possible. If not this year, the year after. Either way, I think they he will see more time on the field. If no one else is added, Washington may see more snaps on offense. I'm not sure they will invest in drafting a WR (at least not early).

I definetly see another TE being brought in. As you said it will probably be one that is a good blocker. Thomas is a guy that I think can really contribute to this offense. He could turn into a reliable target for Brady and a solid chain-mover. Unfortunately both Graham and Watson have had a penchant to drop the easy ones and I really hope Thomas can turn into a target that Brady can trust.Also, I'd be real surprised if another quality (but not expensive) Wr isn't added. While everyone has their fingers crossed that Jax lives up to the draft hype the bottomline is he hasn't done squat in two years and there are major questions about his durability and whether his head is on straight. Anything he gives them is a bonus. Add in another reliable target and this unit will be right there with the best of them and if Jax actually pans out than this O can really be lights out.

 

[Boston]

The bargain shopping continues as Tank Williams is signed to a year deal and they are bringing in restricted FA Adam Seward for a visit.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

Patriots to host Seward

Link|Comments (4) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 5, 2008 05:58 PM

After delving into the unrestricted free agent market in recent days, the Patriots are now considering a move with a restricted free agent. Team officials are scheduled to host Carolina linebacker Adam Seward on a visit at Gillette Stadium on Thursday.

Seward (31 games, 2 starts) has primarily been a backup over the last three seasons for the Panthers, who run a 4-3 defense. In New England’s 3-4 scheme, the 6-foot-2, 248-pound Seward would project to play inside linebacker.

As a restricted free agent, Seward was tendered at the low level by the Panthers. That means that if the Patriots sign him to an offer sheet – and the Panthers don’t match – it would cost New England a fifth-round draft choice, the round in which Seward entered the NFL in 2005.

The Patriots’ interest in Seward likely has some ties to his college career at UNLV, when he played inside linebacker in a 3-4 defense. That position, which requires bigger, physical linebackers who can take on guards but still run effectively, has been a challenge for the Patriots to find young talent.

Seward also might have caught the Patriots’ eye in the 2007 preseason. In the Patriots’ 24-7 victory over the Panthers on Aug. 24, Seward had five tackles. He is also considered a strong special teams player.

Report: Pats sign Tank Williams

Link|Comments (0) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 5, 2008 05:09 PM

The Patriots have signed safety Tank Williams to a one-year contract, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

The Minneapolis Star Tribune also reports on Williams' deal with New England.

Williams (6-foot-2, 223 pounds) was with the Vikings the last two seasons and is considered a big hitter. He spent the first four seasons of his career with the Titans.

 

[rabidfireweasel]

The bargain shopping continues as Tank Williams is signed to a year deal and they are bringing in restricted FA Adam Seward for a visit.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

Patriots to host Seward

Link|Comments (4) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 5, 2008 05:58 PM

After delving into the unrestricted free agent market in recent days, the Patriots are now considering a move with a restricted free agent. Team officials are scheduled to host Carolina linebacker Adam Seward on a visit at Gillette Stadium on Thursday.

Seward (31 games, 2 starts) has primarily been a backup over the last three seasons for the Panthers, who run a 4-3 defense. In New England’s 3-4 scheme, the 6-foot-2, 248-pound Seward would project to play inside linebacker.

As a restricted free agent, Seward was tendered at the low level by the Panthers. That means that if the Patriots sign him to an offer sheet – and the Panthers don’t match – it would cost New England a fifth-round draft choice, the round in which Seward entered the NFL in 2005.

The Patriots’ interest in Seward likely has some ties to his college career at UNLV, when he played inside linebacker in a 3-4 defense. That position, which requires bigger, physical linebackers who can take on guards but still run effectively, has been a challenge for the Patriots to find young talent.

Seward also might have caught the Patriots’ eye in the 2007 preseason. In the Patriots’ 24-7 victory over the Panthers on Aug. 24, Seward had five tackles. He is also considered a strong special teams player.

Report: Pats sign Tank Williams

Link|Comments (0) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 5, 2008 05:09 PM

The Patriots have signed safety Tank Williams to a one-year contract, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

The Minneapolis Star Tribune also reports on Williams' deal with New England.

Williams (6-foot-2, 223 pounds) was with the Vikings the last two seasons and is considered a big hitter. He spent the first four seasons of his career with the Titans.

If Williams makes the team, I expect Merriweather playing more nickel corner. He struggled a bit in coverage last year, so I hope that is an area he can improve.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

The bargain shopping continues as Tank Williams is signed to a year deal and they are bringing in restricted FA Adam Seward for a visit.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

Patriots to host Seward

Link|Comments (4) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 5, 2008 05:58 PM

After delving into the unrestricted free agent market in recent days, the Patriots are now considering a move with a restricted free agent. Team officials are scheduled to host Carolina linebacker Adam Seward on a visit at Gillette Stadium on Thursday.

Seward (31 games, 2 starts) has primarily been a backup over the last three seasons for the Panthers, who run a 4-3 defense. In New England’s 3-4 scheme, the 6-foot-2, 248-pound Seward would project to play inside linebacker.

As a restricted free agent, Seward was tendered at the low level by the Panthers. That means that if the Patriots sign him to an offer sheet – and the Panthers don’t match – it would cost New England a fifth-round draft choice, the round in which Seward entered the NFL in 2005.

The Patriots’ interest in Seward likely has some ties to his college career at UNLV, when he played inside linebacker in a 3-4 defense. That position, which requires bigger, physical linebackers who can take on guards but still run effectively, has been a challenge for the Patriots to find young talent.

Seward also might have caught the Patriots’ eye in the 2007 preseason. In the Patriots’ 24-7 victory over the Panthers on Aug. 24, Seward had five tackles. He is also considered a strong special teams player.

Report: Pats sign Tank Williams

Link|Comments (0) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 5, 2008 05:09 PM

The Patriots have signed safety Tank Williams to a one-year contract, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

The Minneapolis Star Tribune also reports on Williams' deal with New England.

Williams (6-foot-2, 223 pounds) was with the Vikings the last two seasons and is considered a big hitter. He spent the first four seasons of his career with the Titans.

Seward sounds like a nice fit.Patriots.com references the Providence Journal today, lamenting the forward prognosis of the defense without some significant new blood:

And so, while it is gratifying, and encouraging, that New England’s high-powered offense will be returning virtually intact in 2008, it is dismaying that the Patriots’ suspect defense is, a week into free agency, weaker than it was in the final minutes against the Giants [in Super Bowl XLII].

 

[Anarchy99]

And so, while it is gratifying, and encouraging, that New England’s high-powered offense will be returning virtually intact in 2008, it is dismaying that the Patriots’ suspect defense is, a week into free agency, weaker than it was in the final minutes against the Giants [in Super Bowl XLII].

I've commented on things like this already this off-season, and I for one am not buying the sky is falling mentality that seems to have permeated some since the SB.The "suspect defense" allowed 17 points against the Giants . . . and was one play-for-the-ages away from allowing only 10 points and winning another SB.IMO, the only major losses on defense were Samuel (who I have always contended was a very good but not uber elite CB) and Colvin (who once was elite but in NE was oft-injured). Gay and Wilson were role players (and their new teams will find that out soon enough). Collectively, yes they are worse than they were in the SB, but they are not the sieve that some people are suggesting they are.No, they have not replaced Samuel and Colvin as of this date, but we are still months and months away from the start of the season . . . and by then NE will have added other players via free agency, trade, or the draft.When the naysayers have the credentials that the NE braintrust has on their resumes, then I will start to listen to them with more attention.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

And so, while it is gratifying, and encouraging, that New England’s high-powered offense will be returning virtually intact in 2008, it is dismaying that the Patriots’ suspect defense is, a week into free agency, weaker than it was in the final minutes against the Giants [in Super Bowl XLII].

I've commented on things like this already this off-season, and I for one am not buying the sky is falling mentality that seems to have permeated some since the SB.The "suspect defense" allowed 17 points against the Giants . . . and was one play-for-the-ages away from allowing only 10 points and winning another SB.IMO, the only major losses on defense were Samuel (who I have always contended was a very good but not uber elite CB) and Colvin (who once was elite but in NE was oft-injured). Gay and Wilson were role players (and their new teams will find that out soon enough). Collectively, yes they are worse than they were in the SB, but they are not the sieve that some people are suggesting they are.No, they have not replaced Samuel and Colvin as of this date, but we are still months and months away from the start of the season . . . and by then NE will have added other players via free agency, trade, or the draft.When the naysayers have the credentials that the NE braintrust has on their resumes, then I will start to listen to them with more attention.

I agree.Still, it would be nice to see a big name addition. What is there like 8MM available against the cap? 3MM to the #7 pick in the draft?

 

[Anarchy99]

And so, while it is gratifying, and encouraging, that New England’s high-powered offense will be returning virtually intact in 2008, it is dismaying that the Patriots’ suspect defense is, a week into free agency, weaker than it was in the final minutes against the Giants [in Super Bowl XLII].

I've commented on things like this already this off-season, and I for one am not buying the sky is falling mentality that seems to have permeated some since the SB.The "suspect defense" allowed 17 points against the Giants . . . and was one play-for-the-ages away from allowing only 10 points and winning another SB.IMO, the only major losses on defense were Samuel (who I have always contended was a very good but not uber elite CB) and Colvin (who once was elite but in NE was oft-injured). Gay and Wilson were role players (and their new teams will find that out soon enough). Collectively, yes they are worse than they were in the SB, but they are not the sieve that some people are suggesting they are.No, they have not replaced Samuel and Colvin as of this date, but we are still months and months away from the start of the season . . . and by then NE will have added other players via free agency, trade, or the draft.When the naysayers have the credentials that the NE braintrust has on their resumes, then I will start to listen to them with more attention.

I agree.Still, it would be nice to see a big name addition. What is there like 8MM available against the cap? 3MM to the #7 pick in the draft?

NOT COUNTING Aiken, Webster, Williams, or Gaffney, NE was approximately $12 million under the cap. Gaffney should count $2 million. That would leave $10 million less those 3 guys. But no one has been extended, no one has reworked a deal, and there could still be a few more players cut at the 6/1 mark. They also would likely have to leave room for Seau and Ty Law in addition to the rookies. IMO, they are getting to the point where they won't have a lot of wiggle room for adding people (short of reworking deals or cutting someone else).

 

[David Yudkin]

The cavalcade of retread secondary signings continues. The Pats signed veteran CB Lewis Sanders today and are talking to former Pats DB Hank Poteat.

 

[nerangers]

On Sirius today they were discussion FA LBs for the 3-4 Defense:

Clark Haggans (Steelers)

Victor Hobson (Jets)

Have not heard if either have visited any teams yet.

 

[twitch]

On Sirius today they were discussion FA LBs for the 3-4 Defense:Clark Haggans (Steelers)Victor Hobson (Jets)Have not heard if either have visited any teams yet.

Were they discussing non-FA LB/DEs that New England could possibly pick up via trade? Because there's someone out there that Im hoping theyre giving serious consideration to going after. He plays on a rival team and his boss is an old pal of Belichick.

 

[Pat Patriot]

On Sirius today they were discussion FA LBs for the 3-4 Defense:Clark Haggans (Steelers)Victor Hobson (Jets)Have not heard if either have visited any teams yet.

Were they discussing non-FA LB/DEs that New England could possibly pick up via trade? Because there's someone out there that Im hoping theyre giving serious consideration to going after. He plays on a rival team and his boss is an old pal of Belichick.

I dont know if they are actually considered PALS.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

On Sirius today they were discussion FA LBs for the 3-4 Defense:Clark Haggans (Steelers)Victor Hobson (Jets)Have not heard if either have visited any teams yet.

Were they discussing non-FA LB/DEs that New England could possibly pick up via trade? Because there's someone out there that Im hoping theyre giving serious consideration to going after. He plays on a rival team and his boss is an old pal of Belichick.

I dont know if they are actually considered PALS.

Who are you discussing? Coughlin and Youmenura (sp?).

 

[Road Warriors]

On Sirius today they were discussion FA LBs for the 3-4 Defense:

Clark Haggans (Steelers)

Victor Hobson (Jets)

Have not heard if either have visited any teams yet.

Were they discussing non-FA LB/DEs that New England could possibly pick up via trade? Because there's someone out there that Im hoping theyre giving serious consideration to going after. He plays on a rival team and his boss is an old pal of Belichick.

I dont know if they are actually considered PALS.

Who are you discussing? Coughlin and Youmenura (sp?).

Nice phonetic effort. I stick with Osi for short. I think the reference may be a bit closer to home -- JT in MIA... but I could be wrong.

 

[nerangers]

Any word on the Seward visit to the Pats?

The Patriots hosted Carolina Panthers restricted free agent linebacker Adam Seward yesterday. Seward, who played middle linebacker and outside linebacker in Carolina's 4-3 defense, but played middle in the 3-4 in college, would bolster New England's depth at inside linebacker, which already got a boost from Tedy Bruschi's decision to return for a 13th season. -- Boston Globe

The Atlanta Falcons signed unrestricted free-agent DL Rashad Moore (Patriots) Friday, March 7. Terms of the deal were not disclosed. -- kffl

The Bengals have been in contact with the agent for Patriots unrestricted free-agent safety Eugene Wilson. James Sims said nothing has been set up yet. Wilson is a five-year veteran from Illinois who has 55 starts, 62 games' experience and 10 interceptions with the Patriots. Wilson has visited Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, the Jets and Tennessee, and it appears his recent history of injuries has not cooled interest. -- Cincinnati Enquirer

 

[Pat Patriot]

On Sirius today they were discussion FA LBs for the 3-4 Defense:Clark Haggans (Steelers)Victor Hobson (Jets)Have not heard if either have visited any teams yet.

Were they discussing non-FA LB/DEs that New England could possibly pick up via trade? Because there's someone out there that Im hoping theyre giving serious consideration to going after. He plays on a rival team and his boss is an old pal of Belichick.

I dont know if they are actually considered PALS.

Who are you discussing? Coughlin and Youmenura (sp?).

I took the reference to mean Jason Taylor and Bill Parcells. Parcells and Belichick are not that close according to Belichicks book and other reports.

 

[Bri]

On Sirius today they were discussion FA LBs for the 3-4 Defense:Clark Haggans (Steelers)Victor Hobson (Jets)Have not heard if either have visited any teams yet.

Were they discussing non-FA LB/DEs that New England could possibly pick up via trade? Because there's someone out there that Im hoping theyre giving serious consideration to going after. He plays on a rival team and his boss is an old pal of Belichick.

I dont know if they are actually considered PALS.

Who are you discussing? Coughlin and Youmenura (sp?).

I took the reference to mean Jason Taylor and Bill Parcells. Parcells and Belichick are not that close according to Belichicks book and other reports.

Around the Supe it came out that the two of them had "made up"

 

[nerangers]

Not sure if anyone here saw the article about PacMan Jones and the Patriots...I don't see it happening, yet you never know with the Pats. First Dillon, then Moss, now Pacman??? I think if Pacman wants to go to Dallas, Dallas can have him! Talented yes, but I think he will be more trouble than any team can handle, even Belichick!

The Patriots have had success rehabilitating players who were perceived as malcontents: first, Corey Dillon, then Randy Moss, now are they prepared to take on Adam "Pacman" Jones?According to a report in the Tennessean newspaper, the Patriots are among the teams that have expressed some level of interest in the Tennessee Titans cornerback, who sat out all of last season after being suspended by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell for his wayward off-field behavior. Jones, who was suspended in April 2007, remains suspended by the league, pending a review by Goodell, which could come as soon as next month, prior to the NFL Draft. Jones was the No. 6 overall pick in the 2005 draft. In 2006, he finished first in the NFL in punt return average (12.9 yards) and tied for the league lead with three punt returns for touchdowns. On defense, Jones started 15 games and intercepted four passes, returning one for a touchdown. However, the seemingly incorrigible cornerback carries more baggage than Paris Hilton. He's been arrested six times since being drafted by the Titans and was at the center of a Las Vegas strip club melee in February 2007 that left a man paralyzed. He's currently serving three years probation, stemming from an incident in Fayette County, Ga., where he was alleged to have bitten a police officer's hand. Jones cut a plea agreement with prosecutors last month, admitting to felony obstruction of a police officer. Jones certainly has the talent to help replace departed Pro Bowl cornerback Asante Samuel, but Pacman's preferred destination appears to be Dallas.

 

[bostonfred]

If the Patriots were not already at the center of controversy, I'd fall back on, In Bill We Trust. I like the fact that they don't usually bow to public opinion. But this is one case where I really don't want the guy, even though I think it would be a good football move.

 

[Pat Patriot]

If the Patriots were not already at the center of controversy, I'd fall back on, In Bill We Trust. I like the fact that they don't usually bow to public opinion. But this is one case where I really don't want the guy, even though I think it would be a good football move.

Moss and Dillon were pretty easy sells. This guy would be a really tough sell.

 

[brednbuddah]

Gaffney re-signed.

I was surprised it was only a one year deal...guess they are looking to evaluate Chad Jackson this year and make a decison on these two next year?

what's the deal with Kelley Washington? they basically got him for nothing from Cincy because they were stacked at WR and NE literally did not use him last year. with Stallworth gone, does he get a chance?

 

[rabidfireweasel]

Gaffney re-signed.

I was surprised it was only a one year deal...guess they are looking to evaluate Chad Jackson this year and make a decison on these two next year?

what's the deal with Kelley Washington? they basically got him for nothing from Cincy because they were stacked at WR and NE literally did not use him last year. with Stallworth gone, does he get a chance?

He will be used very little unless there is an injury. Now, there is a significant talent differences between players (not so much in the Givens, Branch, Patten, Brown eras). Moss, and Welker in two wr sets, then Gaffney comes in and Welker moves to the slot. JAckson will get some looks in the 3 wr sets (not not likely the 50/50 split Stallworth and Gaffney flip flopped) and come in on 4 wide. Gaffney is only a one year contract, and they want to figure out where Jackson fits in (if he earns the playing time) going forward. Washington and Aiken will provide depth, scout team route running and excellence on special teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see the team take a wr on their second third or fourth round pick in this deep wr class, given the future uncertainty with Gaffney and Jackson.

 

[nerangers]

No big surprised this got dismissed...

Lawyers for a St. Louis Rams player and three fans plan to withdraw a lawsuit accusing the Patriots of cheating in Super Bowl XXXVI, the Associated Press reports.

The news was to be expected, as experts felt the suit had little merit to begin with.

 

[Sebowski]

Do any of you think Chad Jackson is worth a spot on a dynasty roster? I had him as the best receiver coming out his rookie year and he has done squat. I know injuries have been an issue, but with the Pats re-signing Gafney, Washington, and signing Sam Aiken, or they pretty much saying that they have given up on Jackson? They can't have too much faith in him.

How would you copare him to a Justin gage or Demetrius Williams in a dynasty format?

 

[Bossman]

Gaffney re-signed.

I was surprised it was only a one year deal...guess they are looking to evaluate Chad Jackson this year and make a decison on these two next year?

what's the deal with Kelley Washington? they basically got him for nothing from Cincy because they were stacked at WR and NE literally did not use him last year. with Stallworth gone, does he get a chance?

He will be used very little unless there is an injury. Now, there is a significant talent differences between players (not so much in the Givens, Branch, Patten, Brown eras). Moss, and Welker in two wr sets, then Gaffney comes in and Welker moves to the slot. JAckson will get some looks in the 3 wr sets (not not likely the 50/50 split Stallworth and Gaffney flip flopped) and come in on 4 wide. Gaffney is only a one year contract, and they want to figure out where Jackson fits in (if he earns the playing time) going forward. Washington and Aiken will provide depth, scout team route running and excellence on special teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see the team take a wr on their second third or fourth round pick in this deep wr class, given the future uncertainty with Gaffney and Jackson.

I recall Washington making great plays on special teams. He often was the first to get to the kick returner. That alone should cement his spot on the roster.I don't think the team is ready to give up on 2nd rd draft pick Chad Jackson. They do have the luxury of keeping him on the bench until he shows he is worthy of playing time. Saying that, he's now going into his 3rd season and I would expect to see some production from him at this point.Someone will get Stallworths receptions this season. I think Jackson is the closest thing they have to Stallworth. Suposably he's a speedy guy.

 

[twitch]

Do any of you think Chad Jackson is worth a spot on a dynasty roster? I had him as the best receiver coming out his rookie year and he has done squat. I know injuries have been an issue, but with the Pats re-signing Gafney, Washington, and signing Sam Aiken, or they pretty much saying that they have given up on Jackson? They can't have too much faith in him.How would you copare him to a Justin gage or Demetrius Williams in a dynasty format?

Without question. He may be lined up opposite Moss. In fact, Id suggest that's probably how the staff and front office are viewing his potential. They didnt keep Gaffney and sign him to a 1yr deal to start along with Welker and Moss. Jackson is scheduled to be technically the 'WR2'. While I agree you cant ignore history and trends when evaluating talent, you also cant ignore individual circumstance either. The kid was fairly productive when he broke in with them in '06 as a rookie. He was young, and on a veteran team, so understandably his role was limited. Then he had the flukey ACL tear in the playoffs which held him out of practice/action all offseason. And of course, what NE and those WRs as well did last year was a bit of a statistical anomaly. They were 4 deep, healthy all year, and frankly didnt need anything from him. Thrown in the fact that he'd have been returning in under a full year from the injury, and his missing last season pretty much means very little. Im optimistic that he'll produce when his time comes. He just turned 23 last week. So, the kid's young and has his best football ahead of him. I just hope he gets some better advice on what to do with his hair. But as for a dynasty pick-up, that's a no-brainer. Stash away.

 

[David Yudkin]

Troy Brown very likely will not be offered another contract.

 

[The Moz]

They got Kelly Washington , Chad Jackson , Wes Welker and the man Randy Moss !

what more in WR's really does NE need. K. Washington is actually decent on the right team and Chad jackson was a 1st rounder that happened to be always injured until now.

NE needs youth in the LBs likely more than anyhting else. I think their CB's will be fine as the real issue last season was run stopping and pressure.

 

[Boston]

They got Kelly Washington , Chad Jackson , Wes Welker and the man Randy Moss ! what more in WR's really does NE need. K. Washington is actually decent on the right team and Chad jackson was a 1st rounder that happened to be always injured until now. NE needs youth in the LBs likely more than anyhting else. I think their CB's will be fine as the real issue last season was run stopping and pressure.

I think the Pats could use another quality veteran at WR. Nothing big time or expensive but something along the lines of a Gaffney or David Patten level player. If Moss were to go down this unit would have some depth issues. Chad Jackson is intriguing but hasn't done squat in two years. Hopefully he realizes his talent this year but you can't say that will definetly happen. Washington's a big time special teamer but since he did not have one reception on a record setting offense last year I find it hard to believe there's a ton of upside there. Add in a veteran to Moss, Welker and Gaffney and you guard against injuries and if Jackson does get his head on strength than this unit could be real scary.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

They got Kelly Washington , Chad Jackson , Wes Welker and the man Randy Moss ! what more in WR's really does NE need. K. Washington is actually decent on the right team and Chad jackson was a 1st rounder that happened to be always injured until now. NE needs youth in the LBs likely more than anyhting else. I think their CB's will be fine as the real issue last season was run stopping and pressure.

I think the Pats could use another quality veteran at WR. Nothing big time or expensive but something along the lines of a Gaffney or David Patten level player. If Moss were to go down this unit would have some depth issues. Chad Jackson is intriguing but hasn't done squat in two years. Hopefully he realizes his talent this year but you can't say that will definetly happen. Washington's a big time special teamer but since he did not have one reception on a record setting offense last year I find it hard to believe there's a ton of upside there. Add in a veteran to Moss, Welker and Gaffney and you guard against injuries and if Jackson does get his head on strength than this unit could be real scary.

I thought Devard Darling would have been a nice fit in New England.Unfortunately, KC signed him yesterday.

 

[David Yudkin]

And for whomever was asking me about the Pats cap situation, Yahoo! mentioned a couple of days ago that they were roughly $10.8 million under the cap.

 

[Boston]

And for whomever was asking me about the Pats cap situation, Yahoo! mentioned a couple of days ago that they were roughly $10.8 million under the cap.

How does the new rookie class factor into that number?

 

[bostonfred]

I know it's out of vogue to talk about good coaching moves by Belichick, but I think he did a great job with Kelley Washington. We're looking at a very talented player who was drafted in the first round despite coming off a significant neck injury and then underachieved on an team with several undisciplined players. The Patriots brought him in on a one year contract, then said, if you want a shot, you're going to have to earn it on special teams. And he played there for the whole year, maybe longer. This guy would probably run through a wall if it meant he got to start at WR for this team.