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Patriots @ Broncos -- Prediction thread (1 Viewer)

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Nothing would surprise me with Tebow and the Broncos anymore.

That said, I don't believe Denver will put this one in the "W" column. Too much Brady to overcome.

N.E. 34

DEN. 21

 
NE: 34

DEN: 31

Notable Player Stats:

Gronkowski: 0 Catches, 0 Yards, 0 TDs

Demaryius Thomas: 10 Catches, 200 Yards, 2 TDs

Eric Decker: 10 Catches 200 Yards, 2 TDs

Tebow: Do the math b/c those two caught all his balls.

Guess which players are on my team and which I'm playing against haha

 
I actually think Denver keeps it kinda close. Their D will get pressure on Brady, & BB will turn to the run game (which Denver wants), keeping the game close. But, I see Pats scoring late to put it away.

Pats win 27-17

 
Tebow posts his first 300 yd passing game of the year and Prater yet again kicks the game winning field goal to ice it.

Broncos 30

Patriots 28

 
'agent orange said:
Tebow posts his first 300 yd passing game of the year and Prater yet again kicks the game winning field goal to ice it.Broncos 30Patriots 28
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Nothing would surprise me anymore. The odds aren't good enough for me to play Tebow over Romo this week--but this would be a mind blower~ :D
 
'agent orange said:
Tebow posts his first 300 yd passing game of the year and Prater yet again kicks the game winning field goal to ice it.Broncos 30Patriots 28
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Yeah...no.Denver's only chance to win this game is to RUN, run, and run more. Keep Brady off the field and limit their opportunities so Denver can as usual keep it close in the 2nd half and have a puncher's chance to pull it out. If they get in a shootout and allow Brady to get in a groove, game over.NE and Brady's history in Denver isn't so good. As a pats fan, this game worries me. Nothing ever good seems to take place in Denver.Denver 27NE 24
 
NE. 3. 14. 7. 7. 31

DEN. 0. 6 14. 14. 34

Welker 60,1

Gronk. 70, 2

Ocho. 110,1

Decker. 80,1

Thomas 111,1

Royal. 40,1

McGahee 80,1

Tebow-100yds rushing

 
Denver will have to force turnovers to win this game. Denver will have to ride the early momentum generated by the magnitude of this game in the eyes and hearts of the Denver fans. Mile High will be rockin from the get go.

This is a better team than the one that stepped on the field to face the then Josh McDaniels led Broncos. Unlike Randy Moss, Hernandez and Gronkowski don't take plays off. Toby Gerhart and Marion Barber had good games against this Broncos D the past couple of weeks; there is no reason to believe the Pats can't run on these guys. Their O-line is much better than those in Minnesota and Chicago.

Fox is a good coach and has done a far better job rejuvinating this defense than one could have reasonably expected. He deserves a lot of credit for what he has done in Denver

The Pats running game will keep the defense honest and the Denver secondary will not have an answer for the TEs and Welker.

Patriots roll in this one 34-20

 
Patriots 38, Broncos 3. Tim Tebow finally exposed as a fraud as Julian Edelman runs 2 interceptions back for touchdowns.

 
DENVER OFFENSE: "This is the type of game Tim Tebow can't win." I must have read or heard that sentence 20 times this week, and it's only Tuesday. You know what type of games Tebow can't win? The games he doesn't play in.

New England's secondary sucks. It's worse than Minnesota's. Tebow had a great performance against the Vikings, going 10-of-15 for 202 yards and two touchdowns, so I don't see why he can't do the same thing to the Patriots. What if he's trailing, you ask? Tebow was behind in the Minnesota contest, if I remember correctly.

The Broncos will run all over the Patriots anyway. Roy Helu just trampled this pathetic stop unit, so look for Willis McGahee to do the same with New England's defense respecting Tebow's ability to scramble.

NEW ENGLAND OFFENSE: Tom Brady was off last week, yet he still was able to muster 34 points, thanks to shoddy Washington tackling. The Broncos, led by Defensive Player of the Year candidate Von Miller, are even better in that category.

I'd be foolish to say that Brady will be completely stymied. He'll score into the high 20s or 30s like he always does. It'll be the same as always - the Patriots will come out bland and then transition into their no-huddle attack once they see what the opponent is doing.

Denver's defensive weakness is against the run, but the Patriots won't be able to take advantage of that. Bill Belichick is a great coach, but I feel like he made a huge mistake by not giving Stevan Ridley or Shane Vereen reps earlier in the year. Now he won't be able to confidently use them in the playoffs over the plodding BenJarvus Green-Ellis or decrepit Kevin Faulk.

RECAP: So many people think this is an automatic cover for New England. How quickly they forget that the Patriots failed to cover the spread against Dan Orlovsky's Colts and Rex Grossman's Redskins.

Not only do I think Tebow will stay within six points; I believe he'll come away with the straight-up victory. Bad things happen to New England when it plays Denver; Brady is a ridiculously bad 1-6 versus the Broncos in his career, with the sole victory being a 30-26 triumph on a Monday night back in 2003.

The Psychology. Edge: None.

No psychological edge found.

The Vegas. Edge: Broncos.

People are piling off the Tim Tebow bandeagon because Tom Brady is the opponent.

Percentage of money on New England: 81% (41,000 bets)

The Trends. Edge: None.

Tom Brady is 131-43 as a starter (101-68 ATS).

Tim Tebow is 6-1 ATS as an underdog or favorite of -3 or less.

Opening Line: Patriots -6.

Opening Total: 46.5.

Weather: .

Week 15 NFL Pick: Broncos 27, Patriots 24

Source: http://walterfootball.com/nflpicks2011_15late.php

 
'glumpy said:
'agent orange said:
Tebow posts his first 300 yd passing game of the year and Prater yet again kicks the game winning field goal to ice it.Broncos 30Patriots 28
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Nothing would surprise me anymore. The odds aren't good enough for me to play Tebow over Romo this week--but this would be a mind blower~ :D
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I've enjoyed watching Tebow this year and last year. I think the biggest disappointment FF-wise is that McDaniels seemed to have Tebow ramped up, the offense was better with him in it and Tebow scored big points. Not with Fox.I know Tebow *can score big, thing is Fox hasn't let him or rather run the kind offense or game plan where that has been possible.I carried Tebow nearly all year and then cut him just this weekend. My theory was another of the remaining 4 teams would not pick him up because they were set at QB. I was wrong - Another team picked him up and it's the team with Romo. I am very glad he is not starting him, but i sure as heck do not want to face him next week vs BUF (this other team is in the other bracket).Tebow is reliable, he gets points no matter what, but under Fox never that much.I am really intrigued by how Tebow will do here. This is a primo game to watch. He will get his 2 TDs. The question is will he get 4 to keep up with a high scoring Pats team or will the new Orange Crush keep the Pats to the 2 TD range themselves.I think it's interesting what Min did, that is not a great offensive team and no AP but they took a big lead on DEN and scored 32 points (30 on offense). Chicago is not a good test because of Hanie, but it's possible Min figured Den out and NE can use the gameplan.If you're in the playoffs, chances are you have a top-8 QB; Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Newton, Stafford, Manning, Rivers, Romo. Romo's got a great matchup vs TB. After that I don't know who you start over Tebow.
 
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'SaintsInDome2006 said:
'glumpy said:
'agent orange said:
Tebow posts his first 300 yd passing game of the year and Prater yet again kicks the game winning field goal to ice it.Broncos 30Patriots 28
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Nothing would surprise me anymore. The odds aren't good enough for me to play Tebow over Romo this week--but this would be a mind blower~ :D
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I've enjoyed watching Tebow this year and last year. I think the biggest disappointment FF-wise is that McDaniels seemed to have Tebow ramped up, the offense was better with him in it and Tebow scored big points. Not with Fox.I know Tebow *can score big, thing is Fox hasn't let him or rather run the kind offense or game plan where that has been possible.I carried Tebow nearly all year and then cut him just this weekend. My theory was another of the remaining 4 teams would not pick him up because they were set at QB. I was wrong - Another team picked him up and it's the team with Romo. I am very glad he is not starting him, but i sure as heck do not want to face him next week vs BUF (this other team is in the other bracket).Tebow is reliable, he gets points no matter what, but under Fox never that much.I am really intrigued by how Tebow will do here. This is a primo game to watch. He will get his 2 TDs. The question is will he get 4 to keep up with a high scoring Pats team or will the new Orange Crush keep the Pats to the 2 TD range themselves.I think it's interesting what Min did, that is not a great offensive team and no AP but they took a big lead on DEN and scored 32 points (30 on offense). Chicago is not a good test because of Hanie, but it's possible Min figured Den out and NE can use the gameplan.If you're in the playoffs, chances are you have a top-8 QB; Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Newton, Stafford, Manning, Rivers, Romo. Romo's got a great matchup vs TB. After that I don't know who you start over Tebow.
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Min was able to run up the score beause of two reasons: no Von Miller and some offensive miscues severly limiting Denver in the first half - safety on first p ay of thw game, McGahee fumble, some key penaties, etc. IMO not really a function of figuring out the D, outside of force-feeding Harvin.
 
I guess I am in the vast minority that thinks the Denver D can give Brady fits with pressure, and that the Pats front 7 can gameplan and play well enough to limit a one-dimentional running game. I like the under, turnovers, low stats and a Pats win 20-13. Yes, the NE secondary can be abused but does anyone think Fox's gameplan is to take advantage of this?

 
Anyone up for a sig bet that New England wins by more than 13 points?

I'm a no limit kinda guy. anything can be said in the sig. If you agree. Let's dance.

 
Patroits will have the ball first and 10 up by 6 with a minute to go. In the process of taking a knee, Brady will jar the ball out of his hand and Broncos will recover. Tebow will score on a 42 yard run as time expires. Denver 28 NE 27

 
great offense (Pats)

tough defense (Broncos)

the game is in Denver, and it's looking like Denver might be a tough place for opposing teams once again.

The Broncos have a chance IF they keep Brady and Co. off the field. Run, run, run. I believe they can, because they believe in themselves, and their leader, Tebow.

Broncos 27

Pats 24

Either this, or the Pats win by 2 or 3 TD's.............I hope not, cause I'm rooting for the Tebow led Broncos.

 
Several things I see:

Miller and Dumervil are beasts on the edge, but that sort of plays right into Brady because he loves to step up into the pocket and make a play. Denver has to get inside pressure and get him out of rhythm. I can see NE coming out in a no-huddle, quick hitting pass offense in an attempt to score quickly and keep the pass rush on its heels.

Denver has to stop the TE. I see Gronk and Hernandez having huge days against Denver. It was not uncommon for Bailey to be put on a TE (see SD-Gates) but I do not think with Welker, the Broncos can afford to do this. The other problem is Goodman and Dawkins are both dinged. So hopefully they are ready to go, otherwise it would be the rookie Harris (who has played well) and the newly signed Carter back there. This, to me, is where the game could be decided. I really can see NE just throwing up the middle to the TE all day and Denver not having an answer.

As others have said, Denver has to control the ball and move the chains. They need to start the game with short passes. I can't remember the last time I have seen this team throw a WR screen. Thomas has shown the ability for some nice YAC--not sure why they have not tried this. These types of plays would help open up the running game. Lots and lots of WR/RB shifts prior to the ball being snapped forcing the NE DBs and LBs to run and run. Get the NE defensive players tired in the altitude. Keep the game close and Brady's offensive possessions limited.

Denver has made some huge plays on special teams and they may need one this week. To me Denver has the advantage in this category

I am really, really excited for this game. For some reason, Denver is just the one team that Brady does not play well against. I think NE comes out strong, but Denver does the usual get back in the game and this game comes down to a missed FG. I can see 27-24 Denver winning.

Win or lose, I am just excited to have relevant Denver football again. I don't know where this train is going, but it has been a fun ride so far.

 
Two of the six losses by Brady and the Pats to Denver were pretty clear. Twice NE turned the ball over 5 times . . . and that was the difference right there.

The odd part is, in the other four losses, the Pats had a total of one turnover across the four games. That is almost unexplainable. NE wins 87 or 88% of the time when they turn the ball over twice or less in the BB/Brady era.

 
Tebow has me sold. I think Jesus wears his jersey, so until he actually loses, I wont bet against him.

Trends don't mean jack. Previous records don't mean jack. These are two different teams than the previous seven meetings.

And to gethugefast1, while most of your points are accurate, Roy Helu is the only RB to rush for 100 yards against that "pathetic stop gap". The Pats might be starting practice squad players and WR's in the secondary, but their rush defense is better than most teams.

I'll predict a Pats win 34-31, but that's only out of hope.

 
'sspunisher said:
NE: 34DEN: 31Notable Player Stats:Gronkowski: 0 Catches, 0 Yards, 0 TDsDemaryius Thomas: 10 Catches, 200 Yards, 2 TDsEric Decker: 10 Catches 200 Yards, 2 TDsTebow: Do the math b/c those two caught all his balls.Guess which players are on my team and which I'm playing against haha
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I sure how your a right on Decker.
 
'PatsFanCT said:
Tebow has me sold. I think Jesus wears his jersey, so until he actually loses, I wont bet against him.

Trends don't mean jack. Previous records don't mean jack. These are two different teams than the previous seven meetings.

And to gethugefast1, while most of your points are accurate, Roy Helu is the only RB to rush for 100 yards against that "pathetic stop gap". The Pats might be starting practice squad players and WR's in the secondary, but their rush defense is better than most teams.

I'll predict a Pats win 34-31, but that's only out of hope.
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Jesus has taught some pretty hard lessons over time...
 
So we get the #31 pass offense against the #32 pass defense. Everyone is salivating at Tebow's matchup against the leagues worst pass D, but the counter argument is that the Pats D will probably improve on their season averages after facing Tebow.

I am starting Tebow but hoping for the best, but the reality is that the Pats are probably going to crush the Broncos. Prediction: Pats 31 - Broncos 19

 
Not starting Tebow--couldn't justify it over Romo and glad I didn't. Sure inserted Demaryius over Dez though--when I realized he's the #5WR over the past three weeks.

 
'glumpy said:
Not starting Tebow--couldn't justify it over Romo and glad I didn't. Sure inserted Demaryius over Dez though--when I realized he's the #5WR over the past three weeks.
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Thanks for the update Glumps. Keep us posted. :thumbup:ETA: I dont want to sound ungrateful here, but it'd be easier for us to follow your team if you put your roster and league scoring in your sig.
 
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