Pats and Belichick being sued (1 Viewer)

[Sheriff66]

$184 million dollar lawsuit

NEW YORK -- A New York Jets season-ticket holder filed a class-action lawsuit Friday against the New England Patriots and coach Bill Belichick for "deceiving customers."

The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Newark, N.J., by Carl Mayer of Princeton Township, N.J., stems from the Patriots being caught illegally videotaping signals from Jets coaches in New England's 38-14 season-opening win Sept. 9.

"They violated the integrity of the game," Mayer's attorney, Bruce Afran, told the Associated Press. "This is a way of punishing Belichick and the Patriots."

Mayer, 48, is seeking more than $184 million in damages for Jets ticket holders.

Belichick was fined $500,000 by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, and the team was fined $250,000 for violating a league rule that prohibits clubs from using a video camera on the sidelines for any purpose -- including recording signals relayed to opposing players on the field. New England also must forfeit a first-round draft pick next year if it makes the playoffs or a second- and third-rounder if it doesn't.

"They were deceiving customers," Mayer said. "You can't deceive customers."

The lawsuit maintained that because other teams found illegal videotaping by the defendants, Jets ticket holders should be compensated for all games played in Giants Stadium between the Jets and Patriots since Belichick became head coach in 2000.

The two calculated that because customers paid $61.6 million to watch eight "fraudulent" games, they're entitled to triple that amount -- or $184.8 million -- in compensation under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act and the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act.

"How many times have the Patriots done this? We find it hard to believe they did it just once," Mayer said. "We just want to get to the truth of the matter of what the Patriots did to the Jets. I think the ticket holders are genuinely concerned about it. This is a type of misrepresentation."

Patriots spokesman Stacey James declined to comment on the lawsuit.

Mayer and Afran, who consider themselves public interest lawyers, have been thorns in the side of New Jersey politicians for years, filing lawsuits and demanding investigations to advance their grievances. They are well known in the state but generally have had little success in their causes.

Both have lost bids for elected offices, and Mayer once served as a presidential campaign adviser to Ralph Nader.

Their demand in March for a probe of Gov. Jon S. Corzine's gifts to a former girlfriend was rejected by a federal prosecutor. In 2006, a judge vetoed their effort to block Corzine's appointment of Rep. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., to fill the governor's seat in the U.S. Senate.

They also failed to get a court to order a special election to replace Gov. James E. McGreevey when he resigned in 2004.

Now, they're taking on the Patriots.

Their latest lawsuit asserted that the secret videotaping violated the contractual "expectations and rights" of Jets ticket holders "to observe an honest match played in compliance with all laws and regulations."

The actions of Belichick and the Patriots violated federal and state racketeering laws, as well as the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act and New Jersey Deceptive Business Practices Act, according to the lawsuit.

"Having been a lifelong Jets fan, as soon as I heard this, I was completely outraged," Mayer said. "The NFL just slapped them on the wrist. I'm a consumer lawyer, and this is consumer fraud."

I'm glad that not everbody wants this just swept under the rug, hopefully they get this thing moving and get depositions under oath from former coaches and players...

 

[fatness]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

 

[Sheriff66]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

 

[Pound]

I don't think this thing has a leg to stand on, but it is pretty rediculous that the NFL destroyed the evidence. That seems rediculous.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Carl Mayer is a crackpot. He ran for Congress in the early '90s. His ideas were equally loony then.

 

[Linton Trust]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

the nfls job is to preserve the integrity of the game....they will get rid of evidence that could come back to cause a big scandal... sure...is it right or wrong? i dunno... but i understand why they did it...

 

[Road Warriors]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

Because with all thats going on in the world, I want our country's leaders working on the NFL taping signals issue. Definitely a good use of governement time.

 

[Sheriff66]

I don't think this thing has a leg to stand on, but it is pretty rediculous that the NFL destroyed the evidence. That seems rediculous.

Are you a lawyer ?

 

[Sheriff66]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

Because with all thats going on in the world, I want our country's leaders working on the NFL taping signals issue. Definitely a good use of governement time.

They brought baseball in front of congress over steroids and th NFL in over retired players health care, why wouldn't they want to investigate possible cheating in the NFL ? They had evdence of cheating and then destroyed everything, doesn't seem a tiny bit fishy to you ?

 

[Road Warriors]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

Because with all thats going on in the world, I want our country's leaders working on the NFL taping signals issue. Definitely a good use of governement time.

They brought baseball in front of congress over steroids and th NFL in over retired players health care, why wouldn't they want to investigate possible cheating in the NFL ?

Did they break any laws?

 

[Pound]

Are you a lawyer ?

Nope.. are you a sheriff? The idea seems silly to me. Just my opinion.

 

[Sheriff66]

Are you a lawyer ?

Nope.. are you a sheriff? The idea seems silly to me. Just my opinion.

I was honestly wondering...I believe the is exactly what Goodell didn't want to happen, hopefully he will have to come out and speak at some point about why the evidence was destroyed, it just smells like a coverup IMO

 

[Sheriff66]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

Because with all thats going on in the world, I want our country's leaders working on the NFL taping signals issue. Definitely a good use of governement time.

They brought baseball in front of congress over steroids and th NFL in over retired players health care, why wouldn't they want to investigate possible cheating in the NFL ?

Did they break any laws?

Fraud, racketering...What if someone had knowledge that the Pats had an advatage and was using the info to bet on games ?? I'm not claiming that it true, but that would be quite serious

 

[cobalt_27]

They wouldn't have destroyed the evidence if there was nothing embarrassing to destroy in the first place.

Unfortunately, this is probably the best thing for Patriots fans that the league did this. While I was not convinced this was entirely that big of a deal when this story first emerged, I am quite certain now that Belichick and the Patriots were up to some pretty shady stuff.

 

[Sheriff66]

They wouldn't have destroyed the evidence if there was nothing embarrassing to destroy in the first place. Unfortunately, this is probably the best thing for Patriots fans that the league did this. While I was not convinced this was entirely that big of a deal when this story first emerged, I am quite certain now that Belichick and the Patriots were up to some pretty shady stuff.

Hit the nail on the head

 

[Sheriff66]

From PFT...

PATS HIT WITH CLASS-ACTION LAWSUITA pair of lawyers in New Jersey have filed a class-action lawsuit in federal court on behalf of all Jets season-ticketholders who paid for seats to watch the Patriots and at the Meadowlands during the eight-year Bill Belichick era.The action arises from the finding earlier this month that the Pats were secretly videotaping the defensive signals sent from the Jets' assistant coaches to the players on the field.Alleging that the cheating violated the federal RICO laws and the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act, the lawsuit seeks $184 million in damages. The number comes from the $61.8 million paid for tickets to the game, which is trebled under the theories alleged."How many times have the Patriots done this? We find it hard to believe they did it just once," attorney Carl Mayer said, according to the Associated Press. "We just want to get to the truth of the matter of what the Patriots did to the Jets. I think the ticket holders are genuinely concerned about it. This is a type of misrepresentation."Cases of this nature -- which some might call aggressive and others might describe as frivolous -- hinge initially on the identification of one or more legal theories that, if the facts alleged are proven to be true, will support a claim for the relief sought. On that point, we plan to track down a copy of the complaint and give it a fair and objective analysis.If the lawsuit can survive an initial challenge based on what's known in the profession as a "motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim" under Rule 12(b)(6) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, then the question becomes whether the plaintiffs can prove the alleged facts.And the problem for the Patriots is that the evidence of historical cheating was given to the NFL, which promptly destroyed it.Um, that's a potential problem.The suit also will expose Belichick and his current and former assistant coaches and all current and former employees of the football operations to depositions under oath.That's a potential problem, too.Stay tuned on this one. The primary battleground will be the motion to dismiss. Because once the pre-trial discovery process begins, things could turn very ugly, very quickly.

 

[brednbuddah]

as a Jets season ticket holer, I could care less.

 

[AB in DC]

They wouldn't have destroyed the evidence if there was nothing embarrassing to destroy in the first place.

There are lots of reasons to destroy documents. (liability risks, theft, etc.)e.g. If you aren't using a shredder in your home from time to time, you are taking a huge risk that things might get into the wrong hands.

 

[Road Warriors]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

Because with all thats going on in the world, I want our country's leaders working on the NFL taping signals issue. Definitely a good use of governement time.

They brought baseball in front of congress over steroids and th NFL in over retired players health care, why wouldn't they want to investigate possible cheating in the NFL ?

Did they break any laws?

Fraud, racketering...What if someone had knowledge that the Pats had an advatage and was using the info to bet on games ?? I'm not claiming that it true, but that would be quite serious

What if? A lawsuit on behalf of fans that feel cheated? There is no broken law here. They broke a league rule, got caught and got punished by the authority ( in this case, the league ). Why is it so hard to see the difference? This is a ridiculous, frivilous lawsuit that ties up courts and makes lawyers rich. If this is what you think is the right direction to go. well I guess thats your priviledge.

I, for one, will try to keep a bit of perspective when it comes to games and try to enjoy the onfield product. As for grassy knoll conspiricy, I'll leave that to you.

 

[The Jerk]

I guess then it's only a matter of time before there is a class-action suit on behalf of all FF players who have had their seasons affected by games involving the Patriots, or at the very least have had games of skill like the FBG subscriber contest impacted. I live fairly close to a local high school bus depot. Think of a large lot full of :11: and maybe this all starts to make sense.

 

[Koya]

I don't think this thing has a leg to stand on, but it is pretty rediculous that the NFL destroyed the evidence. That seems rediculous.

Are you a lawyer ?

I would hope an attorney could spell ridiculous.

 

[Whizzinator]

This is a ridiculous RICO claim, and I'd be stunned if any lawyer who isn't involved in the litigation would disagree.

 

[rabidfireweasel]

There is a wonderful amount of unintentional comedy in this thread.

 

[The Jerk]

I don't think this thing has a leg to stand on, but it is pretty rediculous that the NFL destroyed the evidence. That seems rediculous.

Are you a lawyer ?

I would hope an attorney could spell ridiculous.

Don't be such a stycklar for detale.

 

[Sheriff66]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

Because with all thats going on in the world, I want our country's leaders working on the NFL taping signals issue. Definitely a good use of governement time.

They brought baseball in front of congress over steroids and th NFL in over retired players health care, why wouldn't they want to investigate possible cheating in the NFL ?

Did they break any laws?

Fraud, racketering...What if someone had knowledge that the Pats had an advatage and was using the info to bet on games ?? I'm not claiming that it true, but that would be quite serious

What if? A lawsuit on behalf of fans that feel cheated? There is no broken law here. They broke a league rule, got caught and got punished by the authority ( in this case, the league ). Why is it so hard to see the difference? This is a ridiculous, frivilous lawsuit that ties up courts and makes lawyers rich. If this is what you think is the right direction to go. well I guess thats your priviledge.

I, for one, will try to keep a bit of perspective when it comes to games and try to enjoy the onfield product. As for grassy knoll conspiricy, I'll leave that to you.

I'm not so sure there is not a broken law here, if the league was aware of long term cheating, and destroyed evidence that proved it....

 

[Sheriff66]

They wouldn't have destroyed the evidence if there was nothing embarrassing to destroy in the first place.

There are lots of reasons to destroy documents. (liability risks, theft, etc.)

e.g. If you aren't using a shredder in your home from time to time, you are taking a huge risk that things might get into the wrong hands.

You're not kiddin'...

 

[Sheriff66]

This is a ridiculous RICO claim, and I'd be stunned if any lawyer who isn't involved in the litigation would disagree.

Florio from PFT is a lawyer, and he seems to think if the case does n't get tossed right out of court, this good be real bad for the Pats...

 

[Road Warriors]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

Because with all thats going on in the world, I want our country's leaders working on the NFL taping signals issue. Definitely a good use of governement time.

They brought baseball in front of congress over steroids and th NFL in over retired players health care, why wouldn't they want to investigate possible cheating in the NFL ?

Did they break any laws?

Fraud, racketering...What if someone had knowledge that the Pats had an advatage and was using the info to bet on games ?? I'm not claiming that it true, but that would be quite serious

What if? A lawsuit on behalf of fans that feel cheated? There is no broken law here. They broke a league rule, got caught and got punished by the authority ( in this case, the league ). Why is it so hard to see the difference? This is a ridiculous, frivilous lawsuit that ties up courts and makes lawyers rich. If this is what you think is the right direction to go. well I guess thats your priviledge.

I, for one, will try to keep a bit of perspective when it comes to games and try to enjoy the onfield product. As for grassy knoll conspiricy, I'll leave that to you.

I'm not so sure there is not a broken law here, if the league was aware of long term cheating, and destroyed evidence that proved it....

Just so we're clear... cheating at a game is NOT AGAINST THE LAW!!!!!Got it? Good. Moving on.

 

[SeveredHorseHeads]

Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Is this a joke ?

If not, it should be.

 

[Pound]

Florio from PFT is a lawyer, and he seems to think if the case does n't get tossed right out of court, this good be real bad for the Pats...

Sounds like he would know better.. instead of those of us with the knee-jerk reactions to just hearing about this Can the fans that bought tickets to the games that Palmero, Canseco and McGuire played in start a class-action now too?

 

[Sheriff66]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

Because with all thats going on in the world, I want our country's leaders working on the NFL taping signals issue. Definitely a good use of governement time.

They brought baseball in front of congress over steroids and th NFL in over retired players health care, why wouldn't they want to investigate possible cheating in the NFL ?

Did they break any laws?

Fraud, racketering...What if someone had knowledge that the Pats had an advatage and was using the info to bet on games ?? I'm not claiming that it true, but that would be quite serious

What if? A lawsuit on behalf of fans that feel cheated? There is no broken law here. They broke a league rule, got caught and got punished by the authority ( in this case, the league ). Why is it so hard to see the difference? This is a ridiculous, frivilous lawsuit that ties up courts and makes lawyers rich. If this is what you think is the right direction to go. well I guess thats your priviledge.

I, for one, will try to keep a bit of perspective when it comes to games and try to enjoy the onfield product. As for grassy knoll conspiricy, I'll leave that to you.

I'm not so sure there is not a broken law here, if the league was aware of long term cheating, and destroyed evidence that proved it....

Just so we're clear... cheating at a game is NOT AGAINST THE LAW!!!!!Got it? Good. Moving on.

Really, so point shaving is legal now....SWEET !

 

[The Jerk]

This is a ridiculous RICO claim, and I'd be stunned if any lawyer who isn't involved in the litigation would disagree.

Florio from PFT is a lawyer, and he seems to think if the case does n't get tossed right out of court, this good be real bad for the Pats...

Although I think it's ludicrous, if it gains any momentum it could be a major distraction. The Steelers were distracted by a $2 million lawsuit in 1977 filed by George Atkinson of the Raiders concerning Noll's comments about Atkinson being part of a "criminal element" (prophetic, no?) in the NFL. Atkinson lost the lawsuit, but it was one of many distractions the Steelers faced in a tumultuous season. Any of this sound familiar?

 

[831hoops]

They wouldn't have destroyed the evidence if there was nothing embarrassing to destroy in the first place. Unfortunately, this is probably the best thing for Patriots fans that the league did this. While I was not convinced this was entirely that big of a deal when this story first emerged, I am quite certain now that Belichick and the Patriots were up to some pretty shady stuff.

Why? Because some 9-ball filed a civil suit? I hope the NFL counter sues for legal fees and puts this guy in his place.

 

[Thumper]

$184 million dollar lawsuit

NEW YORK -- A New York Jets season-ticket holder filed a class-action lawsuit Friday against the New England Patriots and coach Bill Belichick for "deceiving customers."

The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Newark, N.J., by Carl Mayer of Princeton Township, N.J., stems from the Patriots being caught illegally videotaping signals from Jets coaches in New England's 38-14 season-opening win Sept. 9.

"They violated the integrity of the game," Mayer's attorney, Bruce Afran, told the Associated Press. "This is a way of punishing Belichick and the Patriots."

Mayer, 48, is seeking more than $184 million in damages for Jets ticket holders.

Belichick was fined $500,000 by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, and the team was fined $250,000 for violating a league rule that prohibits clubs from using a video camera on the sidelines for any purpose -- including recording signals relayed to opposing players on the field. New England also must forfeit a first-round draft pick next year if it makes the playoffs or a second- and third-rounder if it doesn't.

"They were deceiving customers," Mayer said. "You can't deceive customers."

The lawsuit maintained that because other teams found illegal videotaping by the defendants, Jets ticket holders should be compensated for all games played in Giants Stadium between the Jets and Patriots since Belichick became head coach in 2000.

The two calculated that because customers paid $61.6 million to watch eight "fraudulent" games, they're entitled to triple that amount -- or $184.8 million -- in compensation under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act and the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act.

"How many times have the Patriots done this? We find it hard to believe they did it just once," Mayer said. "We just want to get to the truth of the matter of what the Patriots did to the Jets. I think the ticket holders are genuinely concerned about it. This is a type of misrepresentation."

Patriots spokesman Stacey James declined to comment on the lawsuit.

Mayer and Afran, who consider themselves public interest lawyers, have been thorns in the side of New Jersey politicians for years, filing lawsuits and demanding investigations to advance their grievances. They are well known in the state but generally have had little success in their causes.

Both have lost bids for elected offices, and Mayer once served as a presidential campaign adviser to Ralph Nader.

Their demand in March for a probe of Gov. Jon S. Corzine's gifts to a former girlfriend was rejected by a federal prosecutor. In 2006, a judge vetoed their effort to block Corzine's appointment of Rep. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., to fill the governor's seat in the U.S. Senate.

They also failed to get a court to order a special election to replace Gov. James E. McGreevey when he resigned in 2004.

Now, they're taking on the Patriots.

Their latest lawsuit asserted that the secret videotaping violated the contractual "expectations and rights" of Jets ticket holders "to observe an honest match played in compliance with all laws and regulations."

The actions of Belichick and the Patriots violated federal and state racketeering laws, as well as the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act and New Jersey Deceptive Business Practices Act, according to the lawsuit.

"Having been a lifelong Jets fan, as soon as I heard this, I was completely outraged," Mayer said. "The NFL just slapped them on the wrist. I'm a consumer lawyer, and this is consumer fraud."

I'm glad that not everbody wants this just swept under the rug, hopefully they get this thing moving and get depositions under oath from former coaches and players...

Somebody needs to get a life.

 

[831hoops]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

Because with all thats going on in the world, I want our country's leaders working on the NFL taping signals issue. Definitely a good use of governement time.

They brought baseball in front of congress over steroids and th NFL in over retired players health care, why wouldn't they want to investigate possible cheating in the NFL ?

Did they break any laws?

Fraud, racketering...What if someone had knowledge that the Pats had an advatage and was using the info to bet on games ?? I'm not claiming that it true, but that would be quite serious

What if? A lawsuit on behalf of fans that feel cheated? There is no broken law here. They broke a league rule, got caught and got punished by the authority ( in this case, the league ). Why is it so hard to see the difference? This is a ridiculous, frivilous lawsuit that ties up courts and makes lawyers rich. If this is what you think is the right direction to go. well I guess thats your priviledge.

I, for one, will try to keep a bit of perspective when it comes to games and try to enjoy the onfield product. As for grassy knoll conspiricy, I'll leave that to you.

I'm not so sure there is not a broken law here, if the league was aware of long term cheating, and destroyed evidence that proved it....

Just so we're clear... cheating at a game is NOT AGAINST THE LAW!!!!!Got it? Good. Moving on.

Really, so point shaving is legal now....SWEET !

I can't believe this is called the shark pool

 

[Sheriff66]

$184 million dollar lawsuit

NEW YORK -- A New York Jets season-ticket holder filed a class-action lawsuit Friday against the New England Patriots and coach Bill Belichick for "deceiving customers."

The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Newark, N.J., by Carl Mayer of Princeton Township, N.J., stems from the Patriots being caught illegally videotaping signals from Jets coaches in New England's 38-14 season-opening win Sept. 9.

"They violated the integrity of the game," Mayer's attorney, Bruce Afran, told the Associated Press. "This is a way of punishing Belichick and the Patriots."

Mayer, 48, is seeking more than $184 million in damages for Jets ticket holders.

Belichick was fined $500,000 by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, and the team was fined $250,000 for violating a league rule that prohibits clubs from using a video camera on the sidelines for any purpose -- including recording signals relayed to opposing players on the field. New England also must forfeit a first-round draft pick next year if it makes the playoffs or a second- and third-rounder if it doesn't.

"They were deceiving customers," Mayer said. "You can't deceive customers."

The lawsuit maintained that because other teams found illegal videotaping by the defendants, Jets ticket holders should be compensated for all games played in Giants Stadium between the Jets and Patriots since Belichick became head coach in 2000.

The two calculated that because customers paid $61.6 million to watch eight "fraudulent" games, they're entitled to triple that amount -- or $184.8 million -- in compensation under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act and the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act.

"How many times have the Patriots done this? We find it hard to believe they did it just once," Mayer said. "We just want to get to the truth of the matter of what the Patriots did to the Jets. I think the ticket holders are genuinely concerned about it. This is a type of misrepresentation."

Patriots spokesman Stacey James declined to comment on the lawsuit.

Mayer and Afran, who consider themselves public interest lawyers, have been thorns in the side of New Jersey politicians for years, filing lawsuits and demanding investigations to advance their grievances. They are well known in the state but generally have had little success in their causes.

Both have lost bids for elected offices, and Mayer once served as a presidential campaign adviser to Ralph Nader.

Their demand in March for a probe of Gov. Jon S. Corzine's gifts to a former girlfriend was rejected by a federal prosecutor. In 2006, a judge vetoed their effort to block Corzine's appointment of Rep. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., to fill the governor's seat in the U.S. Senate.

They also failed to get a court to order a special election to replace Gov. James E. McGreevey when he resigned in 2004.

Now, they're taking on the Patriots.

Their latest lawsuit asserted that the secret videotaping violated the contractual "expectations and rights" of Jets ticket holders "to observe an honest match played in compliance with all laws and regulations."

The actions of Belichick and the Patriots violated federal and state racketeering laws, as well as the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act and New Jersey Deceptive Business Practices Act, according to the lawsuit.

"Having been a lifelong Jets fan, as soon as I heard this, I was completely outraged," Mayer said. "The NFL just slapped them on the wrist. I'm a consumer lawyer, and this is consumer fraud."

I'm glad that not everbody wants this just swept under the rug, hopefully they get this thing moving and get depositions under oath from former coaches and players...

Somebody needs to get a life.

No, I care about the integrity of the games I am watching, and if other teams are doing it I hope they get busted as well.

 

[Road Warriors]

Kind of odd that the NFL destroyed all the evidence..............

Ya, kinda weird, huh ?Hopefully this gets enough pressure on them to get Congress involved, we need to know the whole story, and I don't believe we are getting it right now.

Because with all thats going on in the world, I want our country's leaders working on the NFL taping signals issue. Definitely a good use of governement time.

They brought baseball in front of congress over steroids and th NFL in over retired players health care, why wouldn't they want to investigate possible cheating in the NFL ?

Did they break any laws?

Fraud, racketering...What if someone had knowledge that the Pats had an advatage and was using the info to bet on games ?? I'm not claiming that it true, but that would be quite serious

What if? A lawsuit on behalf of fans that feel cheated? There is no broken law here. They broke a league rule, got caught and got punished by the authority ( in this case, the league ). Why is it so hard to see the difference? This is a ridiculous, frivilous lawsuit that ties up courts and makes lawyers rich. If this is what you think is the right direction to go. well I guess thats your priviledge.

I, for one, will try to keep a bit of perspective when it comes to games and try to enjoy the onfield product. As for grassy knoll conspiricy, I'll leave that to you.

I'm not so sure there is not a broken law here, if the league was aware of long term cheating, and destroyed evidence that proved it....

Just so we're clear... cheating at a game is NOT AGAINST THE LAW!!!!!Got it? Good. Moving on.

Really, so point shaving is legal now....SWEET !

So the Patriots were laying bets, and cheating to cover those bets? Is that what the fine & loss of a draft pick was for? Are you sure they weren't fighting dogs in the locker room at halftime, too? Any other imaginary offenses we should throw out here?

 

[Persecutor]

I think I am going to file a class action suit against all baseball players that have and/or are currently stealing signs. Particularly Gomes who appeared to be stealing signs from the Yankess Posada this week.

That should include just about all MLB teams. Should make me super rich...

 

[Pound]

This is the NFL. There is still some doubters out there about games being fixed or not, unlike the NBA.

 

[Sheriff66]

[qoute]

I can't believe this is called the shark pool

I'm not claiming point shaving by the Pats, just making a point, cheating in games with this kind of scratch involved is a big problem

 

[jonessed]

I imagine this is why Goodell had everything destroyed. If other tapes started popping up you could have dozens of these lawsuits.

 

[831hoops]

[qoute]

I can't believe this is called the shark pool

I'm not claiming point shaving by the Pats, just making a point, cheating in games with this kind of scratch involved is a big problem

Maybe you should go back and read your own post. Go back to your Dungeons and Dragons with the rest of the tools.

 

[Sheriff66]

[qoute]

I can't believe this is called the shark pool

I'm not claiming point shaving by the Pats, just making a point, cheating in games with this kind of scratch involved is a big problem

Maybe you should go back and read your own post. Go back to your Dungeons and Dragons with the rest of the tools.

He says cheating in games is not against the law, I brought up a point shaving as a form of cheating in games that is against the law. Dungeons and Dragons ??? You're a dooosh

 

[Sheriff66]

I imagine this is why Goodell had everything destroyed. If other tapes started popping up you could have dozens of these lawsuits.

Exactly

 

[-Crippler-]

Worst lawsuit ever.

What a waste of taxpayer money...pathetic

 

[Pound]

Worst lawsuit ever.

Worse than the McDonalds/Hot Coffee suit?

 

[jonessed]

I imagine this is why Goodell had everything destroyed. If other tapes started popping up you could have dozens of these lawsuits.

Exactly

Its too bad the lawsuit wasn't filed sooner. He wouldn't have been able to destroy the tapes and we would probably have been able to see what was on them.

 

[Pocket Joker]

This should be in the WGAS forum, or the Free for All....

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Man you guys are mean here in the Shark Pool. So what is this I hear about point shaving in Dungeons and Dragons? Are we talking hit points or attribute points?