Pats Draft Room (1 Viewer)

[Boston]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Can't locate the details for the Pats / Packers trade.

 

[Adebisi]

It is completely absurd how well this team works the draft.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

 

[Adebisi]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

It's weak draft class, imo.

Trading down and possibly out of this draft is the answer for NE

especially considering their current cap situation.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

This makes little sense.

 

[Ridgelake]

What are the terms of the GB trade?

 

[ROCKET]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

Trading up for who? Is the draft over yet?

 

[Boston]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

If you look at their contracts they have a very big free agent class next year. This allows them to stock up on talent with low salaries that could be potential replacements for the Kevin Faulks and Jarvis Green's who are on the last year of their deals.The Pats draft two years ago was awful (they did get Moss and Welker though) and last year's draft is still somewhat of a mystery outside of Mayo. They can use a draft that produces a good amount of talent. If the Pats can turn these picks into contributors it will give them huge salary cap flexibility in the future.Going into today I thought they would trade up but they're doing the opposite. Things should get real interesting once they finally start putting names next to these picks.

 

[-baller]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

it ain't over yet, dude.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

Trading up for who? Is the draft over yet?

New England's a team that has third and fourth round picks fail to make the team. Does anyone remember Jonathan Wilhite or Shawn Crable or Garrett Mills? No. NE has more picks than most teams; they should be trading up as much as possible. Only a few of these draft picks will make the roster, so they should be trading up to get value guys with good contracts. No reason for them not to package up for picks in the 15-30 range. Bad move.

 

[Adebisi]

Adding picks in this draft is two fold.The talent isnt as good, so why get more of inferior quality? And less of the superior quality?A: To just have more shots at finding a gem. Pioli flatly stated they never thought Brady was gonna be as good as he was.I think they trust themselves to take several shots at a myriad of players.I certainly dont like the approach and think its very risky. But the Patriots have a plan, which is tantamount to success in the NFL.

Here comes the Steelers fan, looking for pointers.

 

[packersfan]

What are the terms of the GB trade?

From ESPN:In addition to the 26th pick, the Packers also acquired New England's pick at No. 162. In return, the Patriots receive Green Bay's picks at Nos. 41, 73 and 83.

 

[rabidfireweasel]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

This is rare, but you have no idea what you are talking about. NE has a ton of FA's coming up after 2010 along both lines and in the secondary. Eight rookies could easily make this team.

 

[-baller]

New England's a team that has third and fourth round picks fail to make the team. Does anyone remember Jonathan Wilhite or Shawn Crable or Garrett Mills? No.

what??wtf are you talking about?

 

[Adebisi]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

Trading up for who? Is the draft over yet?

New England's a team that has third and fourth round picks fail to make the team. Does anyone remember Jonathan Wilhite or Shawn Crable or Garrett Mills? No. NE has more picks than most teams; they should be trading up as much as possible. Only a few of these draft picks will make the roster, so they should be trading up to get value guys with good contracts.

Wilhite and Crable were 2008 draft picks who were IR'd last year.

 

[Boston]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

This is rare, but you have no idea what you are talking about. NE has a ton of FA's coming up after 2010 along both lines and in the secondary. Eight rookies f=could easily make this team.

Looking at what they're doing this appears to make a ton of sense. Get a plan in place a year early rather than a year late.

 

[-baller]

could we plz get jets fans banned from this thread?

 

[Adebisi]

could we plz get jets fans banned from this thread?

We would lose a lot of unintentional comedy if we lost the frustrated Jets fans.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

Trading up for who? Is the draft over yet?

New England's a team that has third and fourth round picks fail to make the team. Does anyone remember Jonathan Wilhite or Shawn Crable or Garrett Mills? No. NE has more picks than most teams; they should be trading up as much as possible. Only a few of these draft picks will make the roster, so they should be trading up to get value guys with good contracts. No reason for them not to package up for picks in the 15-30 range. Bad move.

Funny I always thought trading up depended on whether or not you think a player iss worth it, not how many other draft picks you have.

 

[-baller]

could we plz get jets fans banned from this thread?

We would lose a lot of unintentional comedy if we lost the frustrated Jets fans.

lol....I stand corrected on that one bigtime.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

Trading up for who? Is the draft over yet?

New England's a team that has third and fourth round picks fail to make the team. Does anyone remember Jonathan Wilhite or Shawn Crable or Garrett Mills? No. NE has more picks than most teams; they should be trading up as much as possible. Only a few of these draft picks will make the roster, so they should be trading up to get value guys with good contracts. No reason for them not to package up for picks in the 15-30 range. Bad move.

dude.:rethink:

 

[Ridgelake]

What are the terms of the GB trade?

From ESPN:In addition to the 26th pick, the Packers also acquired New England's pick at No. 162. In return, the Patriots receive Green Bay's picks at Nos. 41, 73 and 83.

Thank you!

 

[PatsWillWin]

-5 points to all Patriot homers falling for Chase's lame

 

[Chase Stuart]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

Trading up for who? Is the draft over yet?

New England's a team that has third and fourth round picks fail to make the team. Does anyone remember Jonathan Wilhite or Shawn Crable or Garrett Mills? No. NE has more picks than most teams; they should be trading up as much as possible. Only a few of these draft picks will make the roster, so they should be trading up to get value guys with good contracts. No reason for them not to package up for picks in the 15-30 range. Bad move.

Funny I always thought trading up depended on thinking a player was worth it, not how many other draft picks you have.

If you're a team with SB aspirations, late round picks aren't worth very much. There was a bunch of top talent available high in the draft that slipped, and was worth trading for. A bunch of later picks don't make that up, IMO.

 

[Boston]

Chase-These are second and third rounders...not late round picks. These deals give them 8 of the first 100 picks. That's almost 10% of the top 100. If they can hit on only 50% of these picks that's adding four quality players making little money.

 

[-baller]

If you're a team with SB aspirations, late round picks aren't worth very much. There was a bunch of top talent available high in the draft that slipped, and was worth trading for. A bunch of later picks don't make that up, IMO.

do you seriously think the nfl is made up solely of first round picks?

 

[Adebisi]

...that's not to mention that these picks can likely be traded for higher picks next year. This is a franchise that, during the Belichick era, has had a history of continued success with an eye towards the future, not just a "win now" mentality.

Chase, with all due respect, I think you may want to reconsider your original post here.

 

[Morton Muffley]

as i posted in another thread, I think the Pats are trading bac becasue they find this class a bit weak and likely will turn these picks into a combo of players and future dratf picks .

My guess is that with these 8 picks in the next two rounds that NE ends up with:

4-6 players

at least one 2010 first rounder

at least one 2010 second rounder

 

[ROCKET]

It's too bad we are'nt adding top 10 blue chippers like Gholston, Robertson and Sanchez

 

[PatsWillWin]

There - Patriots moved up, Chase knows what he's talking about after all.

 

[bostonfred]

I was hoping the Pats would be able to get the top safety in the draft this year, but there really wasn't a first round safety. I guess I'm glad they took the first safety selected. I like them getting a backup for Wilfork/run stuffer. That helps the goal line package and also takes some leverage away from Wilfork in contract negotiations. Love the Butler pick. If they can still get a linebacker they like, I'll be thrilled with this draft.

 

[Zaxxon]

It's too bad we are'nt adding top 10 blue chippers like Gholston, Robertson and Sanchez

Want to make a fake bet that Sanchez will be Rookie of the Year?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

I believe the current count for the Pats is four second round selections and four third rounders...that's a lot of potential talent that will have have very low salary cap numbers.

Poor decision making for a team with lots of late draft picks and not a lot of spots available. NE should have been trading up, not trading down.

Trading up for who? Is the draft over yet?

New England's a team that has third and fourth round picks fail to make the team. Does anyone remember Jonathan Wilhite or Shawn Crable or Garrett Mills? No. NE has more picks than most teams; they should be trading up as much as possible. Only a few of these draft picks will make the roster, so they should be trading up to get value guys with good contracts.

Wilhite and Crable were 2008 draft picks who were IR'd last year.

From what I understand, Crable has a good shot at being a starter this year, which had me shuked with Chase's post ?!?

 

[bostonfred]

Sucks to see Barwin go, although I didn't see the Pats getting him after all the "this guy seems like a classic Belichick pick" talk. It always seems like the mocks try to find a way to fit a "Belichick guy" into an earlier slot than he's really worth. Still, the Pats need linebacking help, and have traded down twice and used three second round picks without getting it. I'm a little confused.

 

[ROCKET]

It's too bad we are'nt adding top 10 blue chippers like Gholston, Robertson and Sanchez

Want to make a fake bet that Sanchez will be Rookie of the Year?

I'll take that bet and also predict Sanchez will be a bust like Leinart.

 

[Boston]

The Pats must be real comfortable with Guyton, Woods and Crable because right now they're a big part of the Patriot D. Unless they make a move for a veteran these guys are going to see a lot of time.

 

[Chase Stuart]

as i posted in another thread, I think the Pats are trading bac becasue they find this class a bit weak and likely will turn these picks into a combo of players and future dratf picks .My guess is that with these 8 picks in the next two rounds that NE ends up with:4-6 playersat least one 2010 first rounderat least one 2010 second rounder

 

[Ron_Mexico]

The Pats must be real comfortable with Guyton, Woods and Crable because right now they're a big part of the Patriot D. Unless they make a move for a veteran these guys are going to see a lot of time.

They've got two of the top 20 tomorrow I believe.Really hoping for a LB with one of the picks.

 

[greenline]

as i posted in another thread, I think the Pats are trading bac becasue they find this class a bit weak and likely will turn these picks into a combo of players and future dratf picks .My guess is that with these 8 picks in the next two rounds that NE ends up with:4-6 playersat least one 2010 first rounderat least one 2010 second rounder

Chase Stuart is a clown.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Lawrence Sidbury Jr - OLB

Zack Follett - ILB

Jarrett Dillard - WR

please take a LB in the 3rd, BB.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

The Patriots send their 1st of four 3rd round picks (73) to JAX in exchange for

a 2010 2nd rd pick and a 7th round pick this year (232).

Nice to see the Pats stockpiling high 2010 picks.

 

[Morton Muffley]

as i posted in another thread, I think the Pats are trading bac becasue they find this class a bit weak and likely will turn these picks into a combo of players and future dratf picks .My guess is that with these 8 picks in the next two rounds that NE ends up with:4-6 playersat least one 2010 first rounderat least one 2010 second rounder

Halfway there Chase....getting nervous? lolBTW, I know that having used all their 2009 2nd round picks there is no way they'll be able to secure a 2010 first rounder

 

[Morton Muffley]

The Patriots send their 1st of four 3rd round picks (73) to JAX in exchange for a 2010 2nd rd pick and a 7th round pick this year (232).Nice to see the Pats stockpiling high 2010 picks.

yeah, this league really overvalues this year's picks...mainly because decisions are being made by coaches/GMs who need to win NOW. You'd think owners would have realized this by now and implemented so system to ensure that these coaches/GMs don't mortgage the team's future in order to secure their ownshort-term job security.

 

[Boston]

Brandon Tate in the third...hopefully they can develop him and he's ready to takeover for Galloway in 2010.

 

[J Andersson]

Brandon Tate will be good!

 

[Workhorse]

Tate is a classic "shot in the darK" third round pick. Certainly has/had first round talent until he shredded his knee. Between that and the positive drug test at the combine, he fell way past his talent level. Could be interesting.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Tate is a classic "shot in the darK" third round pick. Certainly has/had first round talent until he shredded his knee. Between that and the positive drug test at the combine, he fell way past his talent level. Could be interesting.

This draft is great !I was hoping for Dillard, but I really like Tate.Just a phenomenal talent.Does anyone know what drug he tested positive for ?

 

[PatsWillWin]

The Pats must be real comfortable with Guyton, Woods and Crable because right now they're a big part of the Patriot D. Unless they make a move for a veteran these guys are going to see a lot of time.

Jason Taylor.