Pats vs Jets (1 Viewer)

[corpcow]

I have one wish for Christmas.........I hope Brady goes back to pass on Sunday in the 18 inches of snow and 30 mph winds......Slips in the snow.......And tears every single muscle in his knee.......PLEASE.

You want one of the greatest QB`s in recent history and a great person to boot to destroy his knee so you can win a fantasy game ....what the hell is wrong with you

Tom Brady don't pay my bills Snoop. While I'd hate to see the guy get hurt, if that's what it takes for me to win... so be it.

I mean, ####, do you really expect someone who shoots his friend in teh face with a duck shot to care about a pretty boy QB's knee?

 

[corpcow]

I have one wish for Christmas.........

I hope Brady goes back to pass on Sunday in the 18 inches of snow and 30 mph winds......

Slips in the snow.......

And tears every single muscle in his knee.......

PLEASE.

You want one of the greatest QB`s in recent history and a great person to boot to destroy his knee so you can win a fantasy game ....what the hell is wrong with you

I have never rooted for someone to get hurt until this season. What the Pats are doing to other teams is disgusting. They are totally disrespectful and don't care about anything but themselves. And they are cheaters to boot. Yea. Brady is a great person. I was indifferent on my opinion of Brady up until this season. I have seen just about every one of his press conferences and interviews. Brady is an arrogant ##### who DESERVES to have a career ending injury. If nobody can get to him, perhaps the snow can take him out!

The only person I would rather see fall to their knees in pain is the classy ### hole known as Bill Belicheat......

Kindly

BIGG Johnny

Start spreading the news

I'm leaving today

I want to be a part of it, New York, New York

These vagabond shoes

Are longing to stray

And make a brand new start of it

New York, New York

I want to wake up in the city that never sleeps

To find I'm king of the hill, top of the heap

These little town blues

Are melting away

I'll make a brand new start of it

In old New York

If I can make it there

I'll make it anywhere

It's up to you, New York, New York. I want to wake up in the city that never sleeps

To find I'm king of the hill, top of the heap

These little town blues

Are melting away

I'll make a brand new start of it

In old New York

If I can make it there

I'll make it anywhere

It's up to you, New York, New York

Hey, please don't attribute that to New York. His tagline clearly says Uniontown, PA. Figures, though, you guys have such an inferiority complex that you just assumed that he was a NYer To quote Ludacris, "Nobody's thinking about you plus your beef ain't legit, so please stay off the T.I.P. of my ####!"

 

[corpcow]

Sweating what exactly? The defense gave up 3 points.

And the NE offense scored 6... (I attribute Maroney's score to the special teams, not the offense). What's your point?This was against a Jets team that has a mediocre rushing attack and the 30th ranked rushing defense. What's going to happen when the Steelers or Jags come to town in bad weather? (Remember, the Steelers didn't have Troy last time. If this is a bad weather game in Jan and Troy is there, that's a big change).

 

[Alias]

Sweating what exactly? The defense gave up 3 points.

And the NE offense scored 6... (I attribute Maroney's score to the special teams, not the offense). What's your point?This was against a Jets team that has a mediocre rushing attack and the 30th ranked rushing defense. What's going to happen when the Steelers or Jags come to town in bad weather? (Remember, the Steelers didn't have Troy last time. If this is a bad weather game in Jan and Troy is there, that's a big change).

Yeah the steelers are a real powerhouse in bad weather. Fact of the matter is bad weather does not magically help whoever is playing against New England.

 

[sheerterror]

Sweating what exactly? The defense gave up 3 points.

And the NE offense scored 6... (I attribute Maroney's score to the special teams, not the offense). What's your point?This was against a Jets team that has a mediocre rushing attack and the 30th ranked rushing defense. What's going to happen when the Steelers or Jags come to town in bad weather? (Remember, the Steelers didn't have Troy last time. If this is a bad weather game in Jan and Troy is there, that's a big change).

Yeah the steelers are a real powerhouse in bad weather. Fact of the matter is bad weather does not magically help whoever is playing against New England.

It seemingly does, however, effect their spread offense. I think that'll help any team that plays New England in bad weather.

 

[freelander]

Jags can beat NE.

 

[Brutis]

I didnt think the weather was that bad in NE, not like Cleveland anyway.

 

[corpcow]

Sweating what exactly? The defense gave up 3 points.

And the NE offense scored 6... (I attribute Maroney's score to the special teams, not the offense). What's your point?This was against a Jets team that has a mediocre rushing attack and the 30th ranked rushing defense. What's going to happen when the Steelers or Jags come to town in bad weather? (Remember, the Steelers didn't have Troy last time. If this is a bad weather game in Jan and Troy is there, that's a big change).

Yeah the steelers are a real powerhouse in bad weather. Fact of the matter is bad weather does not magically help whoever is playing against New England.

Those are some of the worst field conditions I've ever seen, and in that slop they held Miami to 49 yards of rushing. Granted, the Steelers offense didn't put up much themselves. It absolutely does magically help whoever is playing the Pats because it minimizes one of their strongest advantages - and it's especially true when it's not normally a strength of the other team. When a team is so successful and has passed a staggering 75% of the time recently (and has clearly been successful doing so), then artificially reducing the effectiveness of that is a big swing. When you make a team that is built on finesse and speed play smashmouth football with a team that is built for smashmouth football, then that certainly tips the scales a bit towards the team built for it.

A perfect example of this is Indy having to go up to NE in the bad weather. They were a team built around speed and the passing game, and that doesn't translate well in bad games. Ironically, the roles have reversed somewhat now - and the Pats (particularly on offense) resemble the Colts of a few years ago.

 

[smcindoe]

I'm surprised noone has talked about the classless Pats fans throwing snowballs that resulted in the stopping of the game.

Well, in fairness, the Jets sideline was throwing them back. Fortunately, though, it was Pennington, so none of them made it up into the stands.

 

[twitch]

Sweating what exactly? The defense gave up 3 points.

And the NE offense scored 6... (I attribute Maroney's score to the special teams, not the offense). What's your point?This was against a Jets team that has a mediocre rushing attack and the 30th ranked rushing defense. What's going to happen when the Steelers or Jags come to town in bad weather? (Remember, the Steelers didn't have Troy last time. If this is a bad weather game in Jan and Troy is there, that's a big change).

Yeah the steelers are a real powerhouse in bad weather. Fact of the matter is bad weather does not magically help whoever is playing against New England.

Those are some of the worst field conditions I've ever seen, and in that slop they held Miami to 49 yards of rushing. Granted, the Steelers offense didn't put up much themselves. It absolutely does magically help whoever is playing the Pats because it minimizes one of their strongest advantages - and it's especially true when it's not normally a strength of the other team. When a team is so successful and has passed a staggering 75% of the time recently (and has clearly been successful doing so), then artificially reducing the effectiveness of that is a big swing. When you make a team that is built on finesse and speed play smashmouth football with a team that is built for smashmouth football, then that certainly tips the scales a bit towards the team built for it.

A perfect example of this is Indy having to go up to NE in the bad weather. They were a team built around speed and the passing game, and that doesn't translate well in bad games. Ironically, the roles have reversed somewhat now - and the Pats (particularly on offense) resemble the Colts of a few years ago.

Built on speed and finesse? See, that's where youre just wrong. Just because a team acquires some nice receivers and utilizes them to maximize benefit doesnt mean their entire team is built around that. That front 7 on D is not a finesse front 7. That back 4 can cover, including Rodney Harrison who is anything but a finesse player. And when NE's really needed it in the closer games, that D has stepped up and slammed the door shut in every close game. NE is a team built to win. Theyve won 3 Superbowl basically playing smashmouth football. Those guys didnt just wake up one morning and forget how to play that way. Jacksonville has 4 losses. If theyd have played NE this year, theyd have 5.

 

[corpcow]

Built on speed and finesse? See, that's where youre just wrong. Just because a team acquires some nice receivers and utilizes them to maximize benefit doesnt mean their entire team is built around that. That front 7 on D is not a finesse front 7. That back 7 can cover, including Rodney Harrison who is anything but a finesse player. And when NE's really needed it in the closer games, that D has stepped up and slammed the door shut in every close game. NE is a team built to win. Theyve won 3 Superbowl basically playing smashmouth football. Those guys didnt just wake up one morning and forget how to play that way. Jacksonville has 4 wins. If theyd have played NE this year, theyd have 5.

Ok, sorry, I overstated. Though I did not explicitly say that NE was built on speed and finesse, I certainly implied it right? Clearly, you're right, that's not true. As I also mentioned with Indy, for years they were the ones better suited for the real hard-hitting smashmouth football. And their main advantage on defense is size (tall, big linemen across the board) vs. speed. I guess what I was trying to say is that their current "domination" and invincibility is based on a high-octane, speed offense. I'm not suggesting at ALL that they are a bad team otherwise, and I'm not suggesting that they would necessarily lose a game in bad weather - only that it evens the playing field a little, particularly when they're playing teams that are better suited for that kind of game.

The way to make the Pats normal is by taking away their passing game. That doesn't mean they aren't a good team otherwise, but that is their clear advantage today. And however that happens - either by good coverage and an aggresive pass attack or by bad weather - that hurts the Patriots more than it does the Colts, Jags, or Steelers.

ANY team in the NFL can be any other team. The good ones win the majority of their games. The great ones win almost all of their games. But more in the NFL comes down to momentum and gameplan and, often, luck than at any other level, because all the teams have great athletes. Sometimes, it's that slight advantage that can make the difference.

I also assume you meant to say Jacksonville has 4 losses?

 

[twitch]

Built on speed and finesse? See, that's where youre just wrong. Just because a team acquires some nice receivers and utilizes them to maximize benefit doesnt mean their entire team is built around that. That front 7 on D is not a finesse front 7. That back 7 can cover, including Rodney Harrison who is anything but a finesse player. And when NE's really needed it in the closer games, that D has stepped up and slammed the door shut in every close game. NE is a team built to win. Theyve won 3 Superbowl basically playing smashmouth football. Those guys didnt just wake up one morning and forget how to play that way. Jacksonville has 4 wins. If theyd have played NE this year, theyd have 5.

Ok, sorry, I overstated. Though I did not explicitly say that NE was built on speed and finesse, I certainly implied it right? Clearly, you're right, that's not true. As I also mentioned with Indy, for years they were the ones better suited for the real hard-hitting smashmouth football. And their main advantage on defense is size (tall, big linemen across the board) vs. speed. I guess what I was trying to say is that their current "domination" and invincibility is based on a high-octane, speed offense. I'm not suggesting at ALL that they are a bad team otherwise, and I'm not suggesting that they would necessarily lose a game in bad weather - only that it evens the playing field a little, particularly when they're playing teams that are better suited for that kind of game.

The way to make the Pats normal is by taking away their passing game. That doesn't mean they aren't a good team otherwise, but that is their clear advantage today. And however that happens - either by good coverage and an aggresive pass attack or by bad weather - that hurts the Patriots more than it does the Colts, Jags, or Steelers.

ANY team in the NFL can be any other team. The good ones win the majority of their games. The great ones win almost all of their games. But more in the NFL comes down to momentum and gameplan and, often, luck than at any other level, because all the teams have great athletes. Sometimes, it's that slight advantage that can make the difference.

I also assume you meant to say Jacksonville has 4 losses?

Yep, meant losses, and back 4 and not back 7. But I really like the Jags team. Theyre obviously a ball-control, smashmouth team that runs the ball great and plays hard, physical football. But NE typically gets bothered by other 3-4 teams and by the quicker, faster teams, specifically off the edge, and not the stronger ones. Because imo, there is no stronger team in football than NE. Id put NE's Oline and their Dline of Warren, Wilfork and Seymour with Adalius Thomas and Vrabel at the OLB up against any other in the league. I understand that every week, its been more and more difficult identifying teams that can bring NE down. And invariably, its typically either the Colts or some team that just hasnt had to face them yet. And I agree that on any given Sunday, any team can win. But I love to see the Pats win close games. Dont get me wrong. The blowouts are fun, too. But its more satisfying winning tough, close, physical, hard-earned games like yesterday's Jets game. Those kindof games serve as a reminder to me of what this team is really all about.

 

[FavreCo]

Please be true..... oh FFL Gods.....cast your weather fury at the Patriots.

You are a sad, sad little man

Maybe so but, what that storm delived was a shot at the championship. Without that, there is no way I would have won this week. All hail the mighty FFL Gods.

 

[Bill Lust]

I think that we are failing to differentiate between different kinds of bad weather. When the Pats played the Steelers last week and the temperature was in the low 30's, it didn't slow down the passing game one bit. However, throw some freezing rain into the mix and all of the sudden it gets a lot harder to throw. It depends on the specific conditions as well as the gameplan. Brady threw for well over 300 yards in the Tuck Rule game in a blizzard. It also works both ways. Sure, high winds will limit what the Pats can do offensively. But is anyone trying to tell me that bad weather wouldn't hurt SD or Jacksonville as well? If it's hard to pass, the Pats will put everyone in the box and dare Rivers or Garrard to beat them. Even if your offense is built around the run, you have to have a least the THREAT of a passing game to make it effective.